 So I'm going to go take minutes. Okay. I'm going to go take minutes. Select board meeting to order at 504. Everybody. They've started. So I've got to go take minutes. He's trying to print the agenda. Of course she is. We have Paul seminary with us. And Orca. And of course, Dorenda. And Randy jewelry. So with that, Dorenda is a highway update discussion with road commissioner about town roads action likely. Mr. Road commissioner. Yes, thank you. We have been getting a lot of positive. Comments, as you know, and if you've seen a cruise doing an excellent job. And I add. They were around. Of course, and sanding, but, and pushing snow back from the intersections as we heard. From our town clerk on Culver Hill. They did pick up a few small items. While they were out. Like a torque wrench and. Still looking for a. Well, I call them a smart level. I don't know if we had one of those before or not. The other thing is they took the freight liner down to. McLeod's last week ago, Monday, and they got it back. And they had to replace. Or put in two new front springs. And. Yeah. And it had worked on the front there. They had to put it. They had to get a new tire. They had to replace it. And they had to replace it. And they see those in your orders. I guess it would be next Monday, maybe. Or whenever. Shane, myself and Steve had a meeting last Thursday and went over. Quite a bit of. Transition material, I guess is what you would call it. And what had. Done previously. Basically. Some other things that. Would be pertinent to Shane. And. We also. I'm not sure on this one. I mean, we got a. And maybe Steve can elaborate. We got. A grant for a rock screen. A portable screen. I don't know if that. I don't know what, what, what's one that exactly is, but time will tell we. Actually contacted. Ashley Bishop and Ashley Andrews. And that's what came out of that. We did. Have that. Grant. And. Ashley Bishop, which is out of AOT said that. We didn't have any present. Grants, but we could apply after July 1st. And yeah, if you want, if Steve wants to. Update us on that. If you feel it's important about the. The rock screen. Yeah, that. That's green Vic was it's one that. That I believe it goes on the excavator. Yeah. It's those small screens so that you can, you know, scoop it out of like the ditch and screen it out right there. When you're trying to reclaim something like when you're trying to reclaim something like a ditch stone that's been previously placed. Yes. Okay. So what I thought. So yeah, with that. Unless there's some questions. Alrighty. I love it when they push the snow banks back. I'll tell you that. What a difference. Yeah. Yeah. Made quite a difference in that. Well, some of our intersections, as we all know, the snow banks get high and it's scary. Right. Right. Hold rail road is the prime example, but there are other places as well. Where was the prime example? Overhill. For hail. Oh yeah. Right. Yeah. When you come when you come down that hill and you try and pull out under the pavement and people are whistling by 55 miles an hour. Right. Right. Right. It's a little scary. Little scary. I will say the speed is picked up on my road since we widened the road with a. Winging back the banks. They think that's road all the way out to the edge. That and the, the. I noticed the difference. When we took the greater out. Cut some of the, some of the bumps out. Yeah. Part of that widening at the same time. Yeah, it's, it's. Yeah. As you know, if any time that we make the road really smooth, the speed picks up. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Okay. Any other questions? Anybody? Thank you. Peter this Randy. I think, I think one of the questions that comes up to my mind is I'm just wondering if we've seen an uptick of. Vehicles and the ditches. That you've noticed. Have you, have you gotten any complaints about that? Vic or Steve? I haven't. Just, I had one. It was a UPS truck. One night. And. He had chains on the back, but he didn't have them on the front. They came over the top of the hill by Layhees and went off on the wrong side of the road. I had a neighbor go off the road in front of my house. And they had to get a tow truck. Yeah. I just happened to see young, you know, transporting kids back and forth to school. You know, McCullough Hill seemed like there was. A fair bit more. Folks in the ditch over the weekend. I've noticed four or five different spots where. People have dumped out into the ditch. And, you know, I was, I was. Pretty close to being pushed off myself with somebody not, not wanting to creep over in their lane far enough. And then the only other comment I had on, on the roads was. You know, coming up over Molley Supal. On the shady rail side. With the road crowned as, as bad as it is over there. You know, I've noticed during the winter time. It's noticeable. So I just want to make that comment. Just the crown, the amount of crown on, on. The shady rail side of Molley Supal. Yeah, thanks for mentioning that. And that's something I forgot because when Shane and. Steve and I met, we, we had discussed that for. It's not much we can do this year, but maybe next year we can do a little something. Absolutely. And, but we have talked about it. And. Yeah. Actually, I thought it was you went off with your tractor down by your driveway, but no, evidently not. No. Oh, there, there are a few spots. I haven't had anybody call me, but I've had, I've stopped a couple of times when people were off and. Well, twice and being a couple and most people said that the. They had to pull, they had to get over because the person coming towards them was driving in the middle of the road, which on McCulloch Hill happens quite often. Yeah. And that was, that was my instance as well. I've had, I've had two instances of a. Young people off the road in the ditch. One car was four wheel drive with summer tires. And it was a nice snowy day. And the other had chains on one front wheel and four bald summer tires. So there's no accounting for, for common sense. I can't believe people would let their kids out on the roads with cars like that. It's unbelievable. Anyway. Anyway, we're going to get our share of that. We know that. But I would say overall the roads have been well sanded. The conditions have been great. I mean, this is the first time we've had anything that even approached rain or even a little icy conditions. So I think it's been good. Yeah. It's been good. Okay. Treasures report. Update on town financial issues. Wow. No issues. You guys have an updated budget status. That's with the checks through tonight. You'll see on a couple of them, like one of them are computer way excessively over budget or quite a bit over budget and where we still got a ways to go. We just got, I think, five or six bills from RB Technology where they hadn't been billing us. And so we finally caught up with that. And so those all got put into tonight's orders. But there's a lot of, I know we've had a lot of work done like with the highway computer and that, but we are... All the email setup stuff is... All that, yeah. I thought there were an awful lot of them though when I looked at it, I was going... Well, they go all the way back to July. Yeah, okay. But it's interesting, you know, and even that there's one more that we didn't get that cause we went back and looked at all of them and I don't know what it is. If it's the bookkeeper there or what, but we're still missing December's. So that one will be added to it. But there's a lot of overage time on it and that's what generates a lot of the extra over what the regular support is. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that that's basically it. Liz, I don't know if you read the most recent email from the grant issue. I don't know what's going on. Everybody had all the invoices that they could have been loaded into the system prior to me sending them to, got her name. But the others, but she's still not even accepting. Evidently, it sounds like a statement from Du Bois and King saying all the bills are paid it's not acceptable proof of payment. So we've now got to go back and print out. We don't have canceled checks. So we'll have to go back and print out something, but I, this is crazy. I know. I'm sorry, Dorinda that I do feel like it's a little bit like Groundhog Day. Like I'm like, oh my gosh, like haven't we done this? Like, and so I think that this speaks to the need to when we get a grant set the parameters about who's in charge of what. And the reality is that I had nothing to do with that grant, but somehow I got roped into it, right? And it just became this like, you know, situation where because the planning commission didn't have the authority to be in the grant database that it sort of fell to one of us. But I think moving forward, you know, especially like with this grant that we have for the capital spending plan, there's going to be stuff that we have to do and who's going to be in charge of that? It'll probably be me. But like that's something that we need to just decide or think about as we get these grants. Can I say some really briefly? So I talked to Amy about this because this is when Patty and I would work on grants, we just had a system where as soon as a check was paid, she had that, do you call it the check stub? What do you call that thing at the bottom of the check? It's a check stub, yeah. She would attach the check stub to with the account number and just gave me a copy of that and I would just put it in the grant book and that seemed to satisfy everybody. It showed, no? This woman wants proof of the canceled check or I have to give a log out of our system and attest to the log that it's true and accurate. Oh, geez. Well, that's, that is new. Can't we go in into the online system and get copies of the checks, but they're not canceled, are they? They don't, I don't know if they'd show they might, but I'll figure it out. I just think, I mean their direction of what they needed is clear as mud as well. So, you know, that doesn't help. You would think something by Du Bois and King would satisfy their requirement. You know, saying everything was paid in full, but it didn't. Well, all the more reason for the discussion we're gonna have in a couple of minutes here. Yeah. So I just have one quick comment which really isn't on the agenda, but I wanna make sure, speaking of those extra RB bills and implementing our new email system, that everybody has gotten into that email system because at some point in time, Phil's shaking his head. At some point in time, we need to say, okay, that's how we're gonna be communicating with each other. Exactly. Yeah, I've still got a half a dozen people who I've nudged, but haven't signed in yet. And I'm gonna give them a good poke, Phil, and tell them they're gonna be, and I see Mary Skinner smiling at me. Yeah. That they don't get in there. Dave and I both had problems, but I'm gonna go do it later. Right now I had to handle all this ballot stuff. So I know there's ever a good time, but this has just been absolutely crazy. So if I could just have until Friday. You can. And I knew that with town meeting coming up and all the craziness this year, I figured we would definitely make a drop dead date once we've passed town meeting and Sarah's done with all that other craziness. So I'm gonna send out another firmer nudge. And then a kick. Tell them the next poll will be for me, and it'll be a personal visit and it won't be pleasant. Okay. I always try and be pleasant, but I'm just saying we've made this huge investment in doing this and a lot of time and efforts been put into it and a lot of money's been spent on it. We need to get it implemented. Yeah, absolutely. Phil, there's no issue with us setting it up on the town computers. RB doesn't have to do that. Nope. Okay. All right. If you need help, just let me know. But it should be a piece of cake, just like any email. I got it set up on mine here at home, but I haven't done it on the one down at the office. On the town side, yeah. Okay. Yeah, no, because Holland did all the backend stuff, which is why then I just sent you out that piece that says if you go here, click here, put in this password, go in and change it, it should come up. And then we just have to, I wanna get all the stuff for those of you who had Comcast addresses, especially for Sarah and for you, Darinda, get the old stuff taken off, the other account and forward it into the new one. So we'll have an archive copy of all that. Right, but will, if people continue, and this is something else I wanted to ask, if people continue to email the Comcast email, will it automatically continue to forward number one? Yes. And number two, the accounting has some definite issues with making this transition, because a lot of that is password. It's like a security feature and a lot of our banking stuff and a lot of our reports that we have to do, that our email address is associated with the account. So it could be, I don't know how that's gonna fall into place, but I think we could possibly have an issue there. Well, you probably have to change wherever it's been at a Comcast, we'll have to change it to the new address, but we can, you can do that over time, as long as we put a forwarding, lost my train of thought, a forwarding address in there, so it automatically forwards. And yeah, but you probably will have to change if it's associated with a specific email address. Yeah, so. But there ought to be a way to contact them and change the email address associated with that account. Is it mostly banking stuff, Dorenda? I believe it's banking. And I think Amy said there was also some of our automatic, automatic deposits and things that we make with, like I don't know if it was into Beamer's or if it was into one of those accounts that it was the email, our email, she said, is the security. It's probably being used as the password. No, she didn't say it was the password, just the username. I don't know. I'll have to, I'll find out when I install it and get more information. Okay. Okay, we just have to, you know, there's no drop dead date, but we could fiddle around with this for another year if we don't. No, we're going to make a drop dead date. We don't get it done. Mary. Oh my God, I have a lot of stuff going on this weekend. Well, anyway guys, I'm glad to try and help too. I haven't delved into getting it on my phone yet. That's my next project. I haven't done that either. Anything else, Dorenda? Any questions for Dorenda? So the next issue on our agenda is considering hiring a municipal accountant action likely. So we had an executive session, we came out of executive session, we told our candidate what we intended to do and now we need to do it. So is there any more discussion on this topic before we have a motion and take action? Who would like to make that motion? Well, first of all, who is the, what's the name of the candidate that you guys would like to discuss for the minutes? Didn't you get a copy of his resume? I just need to get it into the minutes that you guys are discussing. Hold on, hold on. Mark, Mark Kinsley, McKinsley. And that's M-A-R-K, right? Yes. Is it K-I-N-S-E-L-Y? S-E-L-Y, okay. S-E-L-Y, okay. S-E-L-Y, yeah. And I'll bring down all this paperwork. Okay, so I'll make the motion that we offer Mark the position as discussed. And I think we were gonna leave this for Dorenda to negotiate the specific, specifics around compensation. I think we discussed this a certain range. And there was a contingency. Do we have a contingency here? We were gonna do this. Subject, so a problem is the budget at town meeting. Okay, did you get that, Sarah? You're hiring Mark Kinsley as a part-time municipal account provided the budget passes at town meeting. Correct. I will say, let me just jump in there. I think you said that even if it didn't pass though, that you would really need to consider moving forward on this, but- Well, I think we do. But I think for now, just to build a little failsafe in there, just in case isn't a bad thing. And he agreed to, so. Yeah, okay. And I guess the other, and I'm not putting words in your mouth, Phil, but I sort of am. The other part of what we discussed is that Derinda is gonna work out the soft peddling of this to Amy and work out the training schedule and dates of hire and- Already done. Okay. Go. How'd it go? Hey, we're well. It's not part of the motion. Not part of the motion. Not part of the motion. Do we have a second for the motion? I'll second it. Okay, thanks, Steve. Any further discussion? All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay, here we go. So Derinda, you wanna let him know? Yeah, yep. I did get an email from him after the interview thanking everybody for the interview. So yeah, so we're all set to go. So can I just note that I abstained because I wasn't there. I don't know anything about this guy. So I just didn't vote. Okay. No, that's fine. I would say we, I mean, basically the overview, we liked him a lot. He's a really nice guy. He really seemed to get what our situation and- Yep. And problem was, and it didn't seem to scare him a bit. So- He actually, Liz was enthusiastic about learning about town government and about our town. And about grants. And well- Yeah. I did have a quick conversation with Nemerick and told them the background of this person. And they said the biggest obstacle, it's not gonna be the accounting side. It's gonna be the difference between doing the books between a profit and municipal government. And that's where he's gonna probably find his most of his frustration, but we'll get- We'll get through it. Did you take his references? Yeah. No. No. He worked at- Yeah, he worked at a couple systems. I don't know. I'm big on making sure that the person we hire has the references checked, especially for a money position. We didn't get any references first off. And secondly, the board made the decision. Okay. You steal our money, Liz, you can say I told you so. Yeah, exactly. Dorenda, does he have to be bonded? Yes. No, not at it. Well, he doesn't have to- Is it for the bookkeeper? He's covered under our bond. He's not covered under our insurance. Okay, yes. So good. Oh, we got a bunch of minutes here. Approving January 19th and 26th, February 2nd and 11 select board minutes. The only one Phil can't vote on is the 19th. I'll move approval of the other two. Are there more than that? Four. For the other four? And Liz wasn't at the last one. We need to do- I was there, I just wasn't there for this executive session. Great. Okay, so we still can- Okay, yep. We can do the other three and I move them. Okay. And I'll second. Okay. And those three for the record, just so we're clear, are which dates? Those are going to be the 19th, 22nd, 19th, 26th and 2nd, because those that, and well, I don't, we're four all together. So I'm confused why, Mary, you attended all four, didn't you? I did. So why don't you move all four? Move all four and he can abstain from one. And then Phil can abstain from the 19th. Who's going to second this? Okay, I move all four. So who was the seconder? Well, I was. So will you second that motion, amended motion? If I'm able to, yeah. Yes, you will. I mean, because I left them a meeting early, that's all. Why aren't you there though? Yeah. For voting purposes. Okay, so I second it. Okay, so we are approving all four minutes and Phil is abstaining from one of them. He's abstaining from the 19th. Okay. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Close for the 19th. Yep. Let the record show that Phil was using himself from the 19th. Okay. Approving the Red Hand Bakers application for a class three Vermont liquor license renewal action likely to motion. Move approval. Back it. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed? And we... And I just ask one question about that general issue. Did the filling station open last weekend? I don't know. I do know that after that meeting on Thursday, I actually took the, I put everything in the mail at the Montpelier post office that night. So they can, I don't think we can get any service faster than that. Nice job, Sarah. I don't think they opened them. There were still contractors trucks there today, but they can't, they can't have gotten their state liquor license that fast. No, but maybe the, they've maybe the license is waiting for them when they came to work this morning to work, to work on, let's hope. There you go. And we have a resignation to consider. Phil is resigning from the Zoning Board of Adjustment. And I don't think we need to take a real action on that other than to accept his resignation and thank him for his service. Does that need to be a motion, Sarah? I don't think so. No, I don't think so either. Thanks, Phil. Thank you, Phil. You're welcome. We're gonna miss you. All you have to do is just say that you wanna, you wanna post a vacancy for that board right away. Yes. Okay. Let's do it. Okay. And we should not be at this point, and I know the answer to my question, but I'm gonna ask it anyway. We should not be posting at this time for letters of interest in positions that have no one on the ballot in case we get enough write-ins. Well, this is not a ballot, this is not a ballot, this is an appointed board. This isn't, but I'm saying in addition, while we're sending out a request for letters of interest. No, we wait until March, we wait until the March Town meeting passes and then see who runs and who writes in and all that stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Correspondence. Nothing. And you've got enough order, people, Dorinda? Yes. So we have about 15 minutes. Anybody got any good stories? 15, I have 25. Well, why don't we back out and then I'll start the meeting. And I think there's some people here. They went away. The Browns were coming in. So I think just to reduce confusion, I think a good idea might be to end this meeting and then we can restart the other meeting because that'll be clear on people's zooms. They're saying, yeah. Same idea. You're gonna start it at like 10 of? I'm gonna start it as soon as this meeting is over. Do we have to log in with a different number? I think you just, I don't know. I think you just do the same thing. I tried to keep the ideas all consistent so that shouldn't be anything special. I thought it was the same seven. It is, it is. But it just to reduce confusion and also for our recording purposes, I've got, I have each one of these meetings recorded. So that'll give us a separate meeting. Okay. Not gonna come back in until 10 to six though. I'm just gonna start so people can just sign in. Okay. See y'all later. So your journey is 534? Thanks everybody. Yeah. Hi. Wait, I don't understand what's happening. You're gonna, now you're gonna, now you're going to log in with Liz. You're gonna log in to the information meeting. Bye Liz, we'll see you next week. Bye bye. Wait, I'm gonna log out and then I'm gonna log back in at six, 10 of six. You're gonna log in for the informational meeting, yes. Okay, is it a different link? No. The same thing, but it starts at six. So this just keeps things cleaner for recording purposes. Okay. Bye. Bye bye.