 I'll tell you when it's stable, right it's stable now. So we're here with V. Cardio, so hi, so who are you? Hi, I'm Dr. Sandeep Shah, I'm the CEO of Vecardio, and also Turidin Laser Technology, it's a parent company. So we're here, we're seeing in real time, what is that? That is my beat-to-beat arterial block pressure, which is being taken by this device here, which is, yes, so with every heartbeat, it's my block pressure, systolic and diastolic with every heartbeat, and essentially, this is equivalent to having an intra-arterial line, which you'd only have in intensive care. It's very accurate and gives a lot of information about. Very accurate, very accurate. It's just a little watch. It's a small biosensor within a watch framework, yes. So effectively, you've got it there, and you can see that essentially, it's very comfortable. Is it giving you pressure on your wrist, or is it just... Not at all, this is just basically for application, it's very comfortable, putting no pressure at all. The technology works on a continuous basis, with no energy entering the body, no need for any compression, and actually no calibration at all either. There's no weird feeling in the wrist. Absolutely, no, not at all. It's just like wearing a watch. It's even better than wearing a watch, it's a lot more comfortable than my other watch that I have. It mind vibrates all the time. So this one, you have to turn it this way, so it goes on the underside of your wrist. No, what I'm doing here is taking blood pressure in the way that doctors like myself would normally do, and I'm keeping it at the plebostatic axis, which is a technical term, to make sure it's the level of the heart. So I get the best metric, and you can see there, you can see that you can visualize my entire arteriogram. So how's it different from any other solution that takes blood pressure right now? Because I know the big one that you put on the arm, right? You push something, and it blocks your blood. That's right, that's the standard, right? That's exactly the standard, and that's based on a calf, and that constricts the artery, it stops the flow, and then basically starts measuring the vibration in the calf to try and estimate what your blood pressure is. It doesn't actually measure it directly, and that's called oscilometry, very poor functioning technology that we've been living with for over 40, 50 years. This is novel, fresh, very dynamic, giving very accurate readings, and actually also in a form factor which is suitable for the modern day digital consumer. Is it possible to take it off to see how it looks? Of course, yes. So how long is the battery life? The battery life is a few days, but it's rechargeable. And you can constantly wear it the whole time? Yes, absolutely. So what is this light I'm seeing in there? Is it some kind of infrared? It's not basically a specific wavelength. We have a light which is over a broad wavelength. The key thing about this technology is that no energy enters the body at all, and that it's completely inside the sensor. And we're using the propensity of light to be able to measure key parameters of blood pressure. And it's very comfortable to wear... Is it a secret or what is it called a sensor? It's called an opto-power modulation sensor. It's an opto-electronic sensor which has been developed by ourselves. And we have patented it with over 37 issued patents around the world and are about to now commercialise it and launch it at the end of this year. So this is all your data at your fingertips? It goes to the app that you have already working on the Android? Yes, and we also have iOS versions as well. Is it shipping? It will be released for shipping at the end of the year. So what do you need to do still? We're just finishing a very pivotal clinical trial in the Cardiac ICU department at the largest cardiovascular centre in Europe and London. And we're actually then finishing our final aesthetic design ready for launch in quarter four. So that means you're going to be NHS-approved, FDA-approved, all these... Did you approve it or what's called? Absolutely. Well, we will be C-approved, so we'll have the C mark. We will also then be progressing to getting the FDA mark. And also, in addition, we'll get clearance from various healthcare systems as well in support of the product. And so it says right here, blood pressure made simple, accurate. And that makes... But if this really works, it's going to be huge, right? Yes, this is... Is it like hundreds of millions of people need this? Absolutely. Hypertension is the world's largest single medical market with over 50% of the adult population suffering from hypertension and also has a major impact on younger populations as well as the elderly. What is it for the young people? It's good because you would detect blood pressure problems at an early stage before they actually cause damage in the body. And then people can modify their lifestyles, improve their health, and try and prevent themselves from becoming hypertensive. So how's your blood pressure? Well, my blood pressure is controlled. I'm a doctor and I'm very careful about making sure I look after it properly. But that's augmented by the fact that I've developed this technology. And hence, you know, I'm very confident that my blood pressure will be remaining to be controlled. And you wanted the trials internally in the company or friends or somebody that have been using it and found something else that was important for them to find out? Yes, indeed. We've done some early sort of investigative trials where we've actually managed through that trial process to find out the person who didn't know that they were in a pre-hypertensive state, were, and managed to get them to see their doctor and get some professional intervention medication. So this is a very unique technology that can actually pick up changes at a very early stage. So it needs to be... Millions of people need to give this as a Christmas gift, right? Yeah, it can be Christmas. You can be ready. And approved and everything, and best for use. We're hoping to make it available and it would be a lovely Christmas present, I think, for a number of people. But also, you know, we're very keen that the world of blood pressure measurement benefits from this new, refreshing, unique optical technology. Is possible that you can have a good price with? The price is actually very competitive for what systems exist to try and measure what we measure. And actually, in terms of the economic impact of blood pressure, by having this system, you can actually improve your health overall and possibly even over time reduce medication costs. Is it possible you will combine it with a smartwatch? Absolutely. Indeed, you have an example here. This is a smart phone. The same sort of output can be potentially over time put into a smartwatch. Because there's all these heart rate monitoring things, right? But that's not the same as blood pressure monitoring. No, heart rate is actually a totally different metric, not as useful as blood pressure. Blood pressure is actually a far more dynamic, important medical parameter, important for the consumer in terms of performance and well-being as well. And we obviously do heart rate as well as blood pressure. So we're a more comprehensive sensor. And so potentially you're in a partner with some companies making smartwatches? Yes, we've... You're going to launch your own, maybe? Possibly, but we have some interesting discussions occurring around the world. This is a technology very suitable for engagement with a number of key technology partners which we're investigating. So maybe the watch is going to beep and tell you, hey, you need to get some... You need to drink more water or you ask, what do people need when they have high blood pressure? Do you need to take your medicine? Well, a number of things. The interventions can include lifestyle modification, relaxation, as well as medication. If you actually are under hydrated, we can detect that on the arterogram. And a number of other easy changes that one can make, including reducing the stress that you're experiencing. So this has real importance in the whole world of well-being, consumer health and medical care.