 The Grammys of the night, you know, like for NWA to receive, you know, for EZNM, Mother and all of them was up there. How big was that? This is actually EZE's vision. He's the one who allowed us to do the type of music. I mean, that was huge. I mean, NWA, you know, I'm glad white people finally figuring it out. We on Boss Talk 101. Yeah, we gon' talk. We need it, bro. We need some of the essence, bro. Like you don't really, like people not really get, to me, like I told LeKiki, like you see the ones who really put projects out versus people just throwing stuff out. You can tell what's really thought through and put out in a, and pretty much when you lay it out, you like, oh yeah, you get serious about the way you present it. Well, we can't rest on our laurels at this point. Hip-hop can't just no longer rest on the greatness of its past. People are demanding it again. You know what I mean? We can't just rest on what, you know, Bad Boy and Wu Tang and Dr. Dre and Death Row and Roofless and No Limit and Cash Money did in the 80s, 90s and the 2000s. That day is over. Like, we rolled that out like an artist who tours off one hit record. And, you know, at first, you think it's about the whole album, but it's really this one hit record. That's it. The first year is great and you're doing 10,000 people. And then five years now, you're doing 3,000 people, but you're putting out music and none of the records. And hip-hop is now in a space to where it's like 800 people in a room. And, you know, people are demanding that we step it up, you know, as a genre as well, to deliver to the rest of the world, like, to be worthy of the praise again. Like, we rolled the last great wave, probably which was the 2000s. Yeah. I mean, and now we're riding, you know, 12 years deep as a complete genre. You know what I mean? It's too many specs now. I mean, it's only so many J-Cos, it's only so many Drake's. You know what I mean? It's only so many Y's. It's only a handful of great artists versus the 90s and 2000s where they were like, boatloads of them. So we rolled off the highs of hip-hop for a good 12 years, and now everybody's like, okay, we over it. What y'all got now? Wow. It was our job to make sure we show that as something there still. Wow. I just, like I said, man, I be thinking about different things that happen up here. Like, the Grammys of the night, you know, like, for NWA to receive, you know, for EZNM, Mother and all of them was up there. Sure. How big was that? This is actually EZE's vision. He's the one who allowed us to do the type of music. I mean, that was huge. I mean, NWA, you know, I'm glad white people finally figuring it out. Shout out to the white folks that's finally figuring out that NWA is important in this life that we all live. But people like Killer Mike, that was to me. I wasn't about to bring that up. I was about to ask you that. Yeah. That kind of like shocked me. Like, what the hell? They didn't let him go up there anyway. Well, you know that. Then they arrested him. I mean, he's a gangster rapper. That's fine. I'm one of the few people that believe as a gangster rapper. You know, if they give me your pub, this is a hard time getting to snatch somebody up. Getting arrested, they never heard hip hop. We're going to sell more records. That's real. You know, this ain't gospel music. You know, this is gangster rap. So Killer Mike makes street rapping. He's a real man. He's really from the corner and he achieved, you know, unheightened. You know, he's reached, you know, great heights and levels at this point with three Grammys in a row. You feel me? So if he had to snatch a nigga up or two, I'm okay with that. Yeah. And nobody is going to judge him for it. It's Killer Mike. The name is Killer Mike. Killer Mike. The boy did was snatch somebody up by their collar. I think they made all good. How did you like that project? He got three Grammys. You know, what's funny, it was worth it. It was a sweep. Yeah. And it was rightfully so. It was put together incredibly well. They wanted that. Mike wanted that. And the Grammy goes to scientists and engineers. Killer Mike. More than everybody else. He was happy. And I'm glad the Grammys really gave it to somebody who wanted, who really went through what it would take to make a great musical composition from the space that is hip hop. Especially in a genre where they stick all the rap in the same place. And some of these people, I don't know, you know, they talking about all kinds of shit. They mashing different things that Mike just represents the streets. That's it. He don't represent nobody else. You know what I mean? So it was dope for hip hop to get those three Grammys, man. I enjoyed it, man. That whole show was like, man, like far as it brought back, I thought I had some vibes over the, you remember the Vibe Award, when things just going crazy. You remember them when Snoop looking in the crowd and Quist? Like you remember them day hip hop, man, hip hop something else, man. And we need to be something else. I mean, it's the only way it's going to work. We can't be like the, we can't be Taylor Swift. It's not going to work for it. They got Taylor Swift. They already, you know, the table already got the Cold Slow with the raisins on it. The potato salad with the raisins on the table. They don't need no more unseasoned food. They got enough up there. They need some, you know, you, you got to watch your blood pressure, but you need some seasoning on the table. Right. And hip hop and gangster rap has always brought that seasoning. That's true. You know, it's like, imagine a barbecue without no greens. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like a real barbecue. You know, it ain't no, have a little pork up there. Let's talk about the title. Counselor, Counselor, Counselor, what? Counselor, what? Counselor, what? Counselor, what? Oh, what's with these nuts? You know what who say, what's making you coming up with that title? I'm a man and I'm going to say what I want to say. You know, I'm not going to have no regards for what nobody else think. You know what I mean? I'm a man and I'm going to say what I want to say and that's it. Like, I don't care what it costs. So, you know, I hang'm with, like, Facebook and a lot of people to feel that way. Eddie Griffin, like it's certain people that ain't compromising and they ain't sell, you know, they ain't should pay them, they should pay them. And I love those type of people. They ain't playing. You know what you need though? The world needs people like us. Balance. You know, so who's gonna talk for you? I always say I talk for my barbershop. That's all right. Ain't nobody can say this shit, they'll get fired at their jobs, somebody's spending their food. Me, I say it for you, just come tell me. Oh really? Where I'm at now I feel like such a voice for so many different ghettos. Like not just even the ghettos of Compton or the ghetto that is Watts or the ghetto that's Los Angeles. I feel like I go to barbershops in Atlanta and people be like, man, glass, you know what's bothering me? And I'm like a therapist in the community. And I'm like, I'm gonna talk, you know, if I could make it make sense, I'm gonna express your frustrations with the world at that time. Well, CEO serums, hold on, I'm on this album right here. Oh, okay, go ahead. Cedric the Entertainer. That was a feature? No, no, that was a skip. I just wanted to make sure people know who was talking. Talking, okay, so you always show them the recognition of Samuel L Jackson as well? Yeah, yeah, same thing. That's hard, man. I don't want people to be like thinking like, you don't know who this is. Yeah, yeah, you're educating at the same time. Man, I like I said, man, the thing is the whole project and just going out to see this, to get this, man, I'm valuing this. It's going back in my spot. It's gonna be at the spot. We're gonna put it where it can be seen. I'll make sure when I come out the door, I'll bring you on to play, too. Okay, go ahead. I really want people to play. This is not going to get over here. This is not going to get over here. Okay, cool. Then I'll bring you a little tune that you can play. Yeah, because I don't want you to just have a car. We don't just have a car. We drive all this shit. All right. You have one to sit, but I'm going to make sure I bring you one to drive. I did one in the store with things that happened. Just in case you get a vinyl, you want to put it on. Oh, did we still got the one? What did she do? Did she sell it? I'll go and buy one. Don't worry about it. My daughter, she's brown now. So we don't know if she took this or sold that. She tough, man. A hustler, you know what I'm talking about. There you go. I'm going to get some money. Okay, so I got to ask this question. I need your definition on it. When somebody say, I make music compared to when you're saying that I'm a musician, what's the difference between the two? I'm a little lady a little slow. That lady a little slow. I don't know if she was just trolling or whatnot, but you know, I pray for her. She's just, she's special, like, especially. Because I was reading them comments and somebody said, well, a musician is the person that, you know, plays instruments. It's not actually like a rapper or a singer or something like that. It's not true. It's not true. And I don't think that was her stance, either, though. I don't think it was. I don't think she kept, I don't know what she thought. But again, man. It's a Keanu thing. Yeah. She's somebody to me that don't really represent. She is like her sexy red almost do the same thing, but hers is more like, it's ridiculous. Yeah. It's over the top. It's like, y'all just got to get used to that. What is that really? Yeah, it is. Yeah, right now. I'm thinking it was like a train or something like that. It's still a city. Yeah. It's fucked up. That's the first time we'd have had an earthquake on Boss Talk one-on-one, God. We already know. Welcome to that. Y'all get earthquakes a lot. I mean, not a lot, but I've had enough to where it's not like I'm going to jump up and run nowhere. Where you going to run to? That's what I'm saying. So just let's keep going and. Wow. I'm from Jamaica. So we get, we have earthquakes as well. But the first thing I'm thinking about is, I'm on the eighth floor. Yeah, I'm not even thinking, fuck it. The best time is ten times. There you go. I'm going to get this work in. They better look this up one year and be like, man, people's in the middle of the earthquake. You understand?