 Do you know about this? We covered Jeb Nichols' video on Joker, and she was desperately trying to figure out the theme of Joker. She guesses at them, and then at one point she says, was the theme of the film that people should stop taking medication? I've heard that like four times now, and it always makes me fucking laugh. I've heard that like four times now, and it always makes me fucking laugh. I've heard that like four times now, and it always makes me fucking laugh. Remember the theme of the episode being about like maintaining a double identity and how one infringes upon the other, and how in the beginning of the episode she implies that she's open about being a lesbonio, and therefore hiding Batwoman is like the same level of bullshit, like that shouldn't be a thing. Asbonius, he was a student of Begidius. Absolutely, and so by the end of the episode we find out the pursuing and concealing Batwoman over supersedes her wants and needs of a life, and so it's like, did the show just say that you shouldn't come out of the closet, per se, if it affects... Oh, wow. Like don't do it if it benefits other people not to. It's like, whoa, that's progressive. So, you know, they might want to fix that, or it was totally cool, it's okay. Anyway, we apparently missed this. Someone said it was the favorite part of the episode for them. KatexSophie says, have you heard about the new Bat person or whatever? And then Kate responds, it's Batwoman, and she's the best thing to happen to Gotham ever, something like that. And then later on the episode, Kate's like, I think my ex is odd to be that I'm Batwoman. How does Bruce keep this a secret? Bruce keep this a secret? He's like, he doesn't talk about it? He doesn't let his enemies run away. If he takes something from somebody that only Batman could have, Bruce Wayne makes sure not to be caught with it by people. You know, just the basics, like the bare minimum basics. He doesn't need to get his enemies to like a gorilla doctor because he almost killed them by just letting him hang for like a week. Throughout this whole show, she showed such little regard for her protecting her identity that she shouldn't even be a surprise. She's thrown batarangs before episode four. She's definitely threw them in episode two. Why is this calibration thing only now been a thing? Because it was relevant to this one and done episode. Okay. I mean, just the time they came back, the other time she just threw them into people. She didn't need to catch them. Well, the point is not that we never necessarily saw her throw and grab a boomer or a batarang. It's more so that she's been using them this whole time. It should have come up by now. She never even tried to throw and grab it. Is that what you're telling me? No, she knows how to use all the equipment without any training or prior experience. Like none, like literally none. As the first episode showed, she put on that suit and she was flying. She knew how to fly on a first go. She jumped right off buildings. Wouldn't it be funny if she like put it out this way? Oh wait, this is actually difficult and then just dropped in at the ground. She's like, once I guess the show's over now. So that's funny. She tortured a guy near to death and it was all off screen. I guess that's cool. Yeah. Yeah, because remember, there's no accountability if you didn't see it happen. Could you cut away? It didn't happen. If we saw, like imagine he gave up no information, right? So it's just this scene. It's a grueling 20 minute scene and she's just torturing him. He's like screaming and people are like, this is fine. Also, this is what's so crazy to me. He didn't almost die from like some, you know, extremely brutal hit. It was because one of his wounds became infected to the point of near fatality. Like that's fucking awful. So irresponsible. Oh my goodness. Like you never decided, oh yeah, that's right. He's cut pretty gnarly. Didn't he get a Batarang thrown into his leg? Yeah, that's right. He stabs him with the Batarang. This isn't really mad because who knows what the fuck Batwoman did to him. That's awful, man. So you got, what was the kill count up to when she let it go off the rooftop? I think she was. Yeah. It was the two old people and the two police officers. He's let go at episode three. That leads to another death and mutilation. And this is after the fact that Alice is attempted to kill our protagonists ex-girlfriend and stepsister. And stepsister, yeah. And all those people in the park with the bomb. That's correct, yes. She knows about all of this shit. Does nothing. Like I know that we've hopped on that. It's just unbelievable. That's all. There should not be a week that goes by where we don't state that every problem that happens from now on. It doesn't weigh on her at all. Actually, if Alice knows Kate is Batwoman and she also knows that Wayne, you know, something to do with Wayne Tower when she shot that light in. What if she just like snuck into Wayne Tower and found the Batcave and stole the equipment? That's true. Considering we have a precedent for villains just walking into Bruce Wayne. Into Wayne Tower and getting it, yeah. I think you guys are missing the key factor here. You know where you can get into the Batcaves if you have a random memory of the necklace. Remember that. Random flashback memory. Which she might have because... Actually, she might have. She should have that. She was playing with Alice. You're right. No. You know what Alice is going to... I like that we decided the only other person who could possibly have it is the one person we were just discussing could get it. And we're like, alright, yeah, fuck. I'm curious though what it would take at this point for Alice to be captured by Batwoman. Like what does she actually have to do? At this point, what does a villain need to have done until Kate Kane is like, you know what? You should be probably in jail. There's a lot of like these sorts of dynamics with the hero main villain. And as a writer you're going to want them to be in a position in the film where instead of it going like introduced and they fight at the end one of them dies. You're like, no, I want them to interact at some point somehow. And the difficulty is like I can't just put them in a room because you know good guy will arrest bad guy. This show is like, no, no. They're just talking, they're just chatting. Oh, we moved the bat signal just so they can have this chat here in particular. Well, it's like they don't have any idea of the whole, you know, flow of a story where things don't just happen for no reason. There's consequences and there's explanations, but they don't care. They're just like, no, we need this scene. So we're going to make this scene happen even if it doesn't make any sense at all. I only mentioned it in passing. I kind of want to make sure that we got this. But in case it comes up in this episode because I feel like it probably will. But the real estate firm, just a rattling off, retarded. The first would be money. She's just, I guess, using Bruce's money because why not? That's just how that works. Legally you can do that. Yeah, she just has access to it. The understanding of what the fuck she's even doing. Like how it's going to affect Gotham, whether or not it could do damage or be unfeasible or something that she needs to hire and vet people for. Like we have no idea what is involved in hire. If sawing something like that out, which is layman, but like looking at it. It's insane that you can just go. You know what? After this villain tell me that she's often ignored because she's of a different class. I want to open up housing for lower class people. My mind just like went somewhere because you mentioned the whole thing of like, how'd she get the money? And my media thought was, okay, next to kin. And then I started to think about the whole family dynamic. Like, so Kate is his cousin, right? No, he's not. So it doesn't make any sense. But all of this one through. So Bruce and Kate are cousins, right? That's the dynamic in this story. Yes. Which would mean that her dad is either Thomas Wayne's brother or mother Wayne's brother. It is this. Why is this not like come up? Has it never come up that he feels a bit shit about his sister or brother being dead? If Jacob was Bruce's brother, why wouldn't his last name be Wayne as well? Mother Wayne's brother. Yeah, it would have to be. But does he not care that his nephew has just disappeared off the face of the earth? If anything, this isn't the first episode he says to Kate when they first meet up. You have some unlike Bruce Wayne, you can make something of your life, which is a odd thing because he runs like a multi-cajillion dollar industry and Maybe Bruce Wayne is really hated in this narrative. Oh man, they've done such a bad job. There's a lot of reasons why they won't work and I'm sure as it develops it will be even more funny. Also, I don't have the time or the attention to keep a successful relationship going for even a week. But you know what? I think I can start a massive real estate firm. It's like I have no experience. I don't know anything about this business, but I can do it because I want to. And that's how the world works. Yeah, it's strange. And I think I told Mahler earlier, if you want to help the community with money or something, then there's a lot of things that you could do. One of those being a real estate firm, sure. But I was like, wait a second, this is a CW show and it's Batwoman. Is the reason that she's doing a real estate firm, is that supposed to be like a dig on Donald Trump? Possibly. It's funny because you just brought that up. It's like there are a lot of ways you could help the community in a more proficient way than real estate. A homeless shelter, a shelter for victims of criminal violence. You got a lot of options that like probably... People funding into the crows that can actually do their job. X Navy Seals and Green Berets as we learned from the first episode. You could have fooled me though. And yeah, the city's perspective on Batwoman. Like we mentioned this briefly, but I just want to make sure we hammer this in. What we're gathering is people kind of like like and support Batwoman, but I have no idea why all the press would be able to comment on it so that she may have stopped an explosion. They don't even know that for sure, you know, in the first episode. Can they even prove it? They saw her fly away, sure. But like, what do you know happened? How do you know she wasn't involved? Like, I don't know. And then episode two was there's no way anyone would have known anything about Batwoman. She barely escaped the police and the dog. Well, she magically escaped them. Then episode three, no one saw that it was Batwoman involved. So again, that doesn't count. Episode four was Magpie. And yeah, she saved the girl from the exploding pebble and everyone got a good look at her then. But people already seemed to like her. And it was just like, how? And there's nobody interested in figuring out who she is. Just, you know, is there nobody who's really curious? It would be tough. It would not be tough. It wouldn't be difficult because she drives her motorbike into fucking Wayne Enterprises in like broad daylight. Another thing that's very strange is you have the part where the effigy of Batman is on the stairs, you know, and everyone's looking around and crowding around it and stuff. Is that just like specifically a warning to Batwoman? Was it from Alice or was it from Evil Mum? I don't know. I can't remember. I think we're supposed to assume it's Alice. But it could be Tom. It could have been Thomas, right? It could have been him, yeah. Because we're never actually sort of told who does it. It's just like, was it a random citizen? Like, I actually don't know what, that's the thing. I never know. Yeah, you never know why things happen or who does what things. So again, moving on. Luke describes Magpie's explosions as dukes. In the episode, he says she nuked the place in reference to the robbery. They don't even kill the guards when to go off at his face. Also, they're clearly not nuclear weapons. So I don't know why he would say that. You could be like, I was exaggerating. I should be like, no, why would you describe it that way unless it deals significant damage? Yeah, they're like flashbangs, if anything. Yeah, well, as you said, they're like neon explosions. Is that what they are? They just, they don't actually do anything. They're fake. If I had that, I could have believed it. But no, the characters seem to believe these are horrifically damaging things. Yeah. Even though they don't do anything. They don't do any damage. Of all the, what's your plan as a supervillain? Well, my thing is that I think that the elites and the wealthy take advantage of us. I guess that's her message thing at the end. So my plan is to, you know, to steal jewelry. Okay, sure, fine. That's not an issue or anything. So I'm going to steal jewels. And to do that, I am going to go to a top secret research and development place and steal explosive ink. Explosive ink. And then I'm going to make a bunch of little bird figurines. And I'm going to paint the little bird figurines white like a magpie and with the explosive ink. And then I'm going to keep them on my belt where they jingle, jingle, jingle around, right, all the time. And if I need to, I'll take one of my bird figurines with the explosive ink on it and I'll throw it and then it'll explode. And he describes these as controlled and there's a paper trail, which means you've got her already with Wayne Enterprises resources. At this point, why aren't you just using a gun? Just use a fucking gun. Even a taser would probably be just more practical. Exactly. A taser would be far more or smoke bombs. You're a thief. You throw a smoke bomb. Poof, where'd she go? She's gone. She slipped away again, guys. Oh no. Now I throw birds covered and painted with explosive ink. That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard. Yeah, I'm just going to kick on. This is going to be longer again than the previous longer episode. That was longer than it was getting longer. She has a huge company at a disposal with the kind of resources that can fake people's deaths and she knew Alice's location and with this information she sent three thugs with pistols to try and kill Alice. No, that's a brilliant plan. And I'm not exaggerating. That was her plan, right, to kill her? They had guns. I guess. And of course Alice knows everything with her gang of street thugs that are literally the most effective fighting force since the fucking Roman army. You have her who always knows every plan that's happening. And like I said during the episode, Catherine, Catherine's the name of the evil mum. Just fucking blow up the building. Like actually just blow it up and say it was a gas leak. Just your problems will be over. Just use a missile, use a bomb, something. Nuke. Nuke them. How about that? She found Magpie's address because she got the location connected to the P.O. box, apparently. And the guy at the desk gave her this information because she posed in a selfie with him. That's what she says. What? The guy gave her what should absolutely be considered secure information. Basically like she wanted to know who collects from the P.O. box. Oh, OK, OK. Oh, yeah. Mailbox. Yeah. Post offices won't just tell you, oh yeah, this is good. Yeah, she asked for it and he said, I'll give it to you if you do a selfie. And that's, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I guess it's good thing people really gave a shit about you. For reasons we don't know. To that point. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know the laws and rules, but I feel like he'd get into a lot of trouble if that was discovered. But what do I know? Who's a criminal? It's fine. Luke concludes from her breath being cold. You can see the breath because of the temperature differences. The room is climate rigged. He just says that like it's a thing. Like, oh yeah, that room is climate rigged. Like, OK. You know what I mean? It's just, all right. There's a lot that's wrong here. I mean, Rags have already discussed this. We did it in the episode too, but just more so stuff. So the room explodes if it's temperature changes. All right. First thing. Was it mentioned in the video? Because I really can't remember. But just she opens the door. That's probably a change. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. From the outside you'd flow in. That's a massive change. Like a rapid one. So boom. Unless there's a piece of dialogue I missed where it was. I don't know if it doesn't, whatever. She's in a room where like her normal breath was icing up. And he says he's going to match her suit to become that cold. Also, while she can't breathe. So she's dead, right? Well, this is the thing. A lot of people were saying that she must be dead. It was like, no, guys. She survived in the opening episode. Remember when she was under water and wet and in like Antarctica. So it's consistent. She survives things that humans can't. Put her in a volcano. See what happens. See if that's what she can survive. Got to be fine with the suit. Just going to match the temperature. How does Magpie go to her own base? I'm willing to assume Magpie has a fucking remote control that deactivates the stupid explosive. I guess I'm in my secret layer. I turn off the thing. Your layer is still like lethal cold. Yeah. Yeah. No, yeah, that's true. What would happen if somebody accidentally came on that room? I was like, huh, what's this opening door? I mean, I probably should have mentioned this as well, obviously. But you know how her suit makes it so that, you know, ah, there you go. It won't affect the changing room. His suit doesn't cover all of your body. No, her mouth is there. So, like, what the fuck? It just explodes again. You explode it and they have it go, yeah. There's no way that this works. Yeah. It's just insanely stupid. That would have been a place where we would have paused, I think, if we weren't just busy thinking about other things. During that scene, she's looking for the pills and then Luke says, hey, can you clone the hard drive? Because that's where they'd get the other stuff from. And she makes like a, like she goes like, pulls out a USB and plugs it into a drive. It's like, what? I can believe Batwoman carries a USB, you know, for computer stuff. Why is she frustrated, though? I know. That's what I was about to say. Isn't that what you're like there? That shouldn't that be one of your primary concerns? That's like a bonus. It's like, ooh, we get to clone the drive. Neat. All the data of the criminal villain that we're chasing. Yeah, of course. Why would that annoy you? You should be like, oh, good idea, Luke. It's probably just because it's a man's suggestion. We mentioned that the police give room to the crows, right? When they've arrested Magpie. I don't think we did mention, though, that the crows then give Kate Cain time to discuss shit with Magpie. Oh, right. Yeah. And you could be like, oh, well, because that person was the photographer that came into Wayne Tower. I'd be like, so? She's a fucking, like, wanted fucking cat burglar. What the hell? Who cares about that? I was like, oh. She just set off a chain reaction of explosives inside the building. It's so like the characters are aware that Kate Cain's the protagonist. They present Magpie to her. What the fuck are you doing? Why? I was like, hey, Kate, you want to talk to this dangerous criminal? And you're like, wait, why are we giving this to Kate Cain? Who is she? Like, what does she do? Is she a crow? It's like, no. What is why? Someone pointed out Luke is in the Batcave when he's alerted to Magpie breaking in. He grabs the taser from under the desk at his computer. I thought he didn't even know how to use the computer. Like, he'd never been near it. So is that where he keeps his taser? Or is that just now where he keeps his taser? I don't know. It just makes me think, like, was he doing that since episode one? He just sat in the Batcave with everything covered up, just like, do, do, do. He had that, like, security office. Does he leave the Batcave when she comes in to... I'm talking about when he goes to get Magpie because she's broken in. Yeah, so he leaves the Batcave. Yeah. You could, but you risk being seen leaving the Batcave if you do that by someone that you know is broken in. Oh, yes. All of it's hugely risky. You know, like she, she broke in by opening a window that seemed to be open anyway. Kate Cain did in episode one. Yeah. And like that would have alerted his system. And I'm just like, your system is aware of a window. That's just a jar that's going to be opened further. Like, I don't understand. Like maybe lock it or something. I don't know. Maybe just use all that fucking Bruce Wayne money that you got enough money to start a real estate firm. Yeah, I like that. Maybe lock in some windows or something. You would have been pretty inconvenient if, you know, the magpie started sealing before Batwoman showed up. Like if she decided to start her stealing spree three weeks earlier, she would have gotten away with it. Also, I did Batman always have this problem. People just breaking into Wayne Enterprise building. Was that something you were dealing with? The world building a shit. Like it. Everything is shit. What do you mean? So bad. Uh, Dr. Lady episode three is like, ha, ha. She has to hang out with Sophie all the time. Personal bodyguard. She wasn't around in episode four, Sophie with, with Mary. Oh, yeah. Is it just, was it temporary for that episode? Was it just going to be whenever they need to talk about something? That's when she turns up. It's not the reason. I mean, they don't stick with anything. They're not going to stick with it. That's the thing. They, they, they wrote that to be a thing. Just to have the drama bits. They come up with this plan for the story. Just as an excuse for these two characters to talk to each other in some weird way. To give some exposition about why Kane didn't join the crows. And I think that this was the ultimate reason why that whole bodyguard thing was made. Just so that Sophie could tell Mary, or sorry, Mary could tell Sophie. He's like, Oh yeah, she didn't join the crows because she didn't want to, you know, be around someone she cared about. You know, it'd make her sad. I'm like, Oh, this is the best way to convey this information to the viewer. Now on, it'll just be something they bring up out of convenience. If they need it, they need her to be around for whatever reason. When they first like lock up her and Magpie in a fight. She, she looks at her. And I think, I don't know what she's looking at, I guess, but she says an egg. You're really committed to this whole bird thing, huh? Coming from the person who's dressed as a bat throwing thing. Bat ranks. Like, I just, like, this is the comment. I'm just like, I kind of like, wow. Yes. You put yourself away like everything is bat themed with you. How can you say this to somebody? What the fuck? Also, also bat grappling hook. You know, this is bat cleavers. It's also important to note that we have just established that on her arm, there is something she can point at people and stun them instantly. Oh, just stupid zoom bloom thing. Yeah. I can't believe I'm thinking about this just now. It's probably because there's like the most overpowered weapon. Is that right? Yeah. There's problem overload. That's why you don't catch it all. But we established in the previous episode, point her arm at people and it stuns them. We've just negated every fight that happens. You have to explain why she isn't just pointing this at everybody and stunning them. She also, don't forget. She also has the grappling hook that she can fire at great distances with pinpoint accuracy and yank people off their, they're holding on to, you know what I mean? Yeah. She can do that too. She's a pretty powerful character. I can't wait to see how that's going to be irrelevant in certain parts of these episodes to make sure we don't, you know, allow her to win everything easily. Oh, man, I can't imagine all the chase scenes that are going to happen where she doesn't just stop the chase with one of her gadgets that have been established to exist. When she's in the room of the cold room and she's holding a breath, the computer, when she first starts, has a picture of her lungs and it has 100% and then underneath it, oxygen. And so like that decreases over time. I think it goes as low as like 40 or something. And it's just like, so we don't breathe 100% oxygen just. No. We just don't want to think that happens. Oh yeah, we can, but that ain't the atmosphere. Not yet. Unless we've assisted, that doesn't happen. The atmosphere is 78% nitrogen. Yeah. And funnily enough, lack of oxygen isn't actually the problem with holding a breath. It's the buildup of carbon dioxide being absorbed slowly. So it's like poisoning yourself. That's correct, Mahler. Good job. Yeah. Fascinating stuff. And yeah, so that computer is just wrong. They're treating it like your lungs are like cars fuel tank. It's like a video game. It's like, you've got 100% oxygen. It's decreasing as a timer. You're like, oh my goodness. I best run. I wanted to, I'm just going to say this. The photographer was interviewing here, Kate Kane, for being a female pillar of the community. Her most famous thing that happened is she was married to Bruce Wayne and was, sorry, Thomas Wayne, and then got killed. Yeah. She got killed. No, no, no. I'm talking about Kate Kane. You see, like what you did there were rags. You thought of something that made a little bit more sense. You actually generated something that made more sense? Well, here's the thing, because they had her, they put such a huge emphasis on the stupid necklace that she wore when she was murdered. Right. That's like, this is Marie Antoinette's dress she wore when she got her head fucking chopped off because she's a strong female. It's so morbid. It's like, wow. It's really actually fucked up, especially if you were related to the family. You're like, eh. But yeah, why, what is Kate Kane done? Can you imagine the options? The pillar of the community, she arrived what feels like a week ago and nobody even knows. And what does she do? Do you remember she expressed concern that like Batwoman is getting appreciation, but Kate Kane does it. It's like, do you even talk to people in the city? Like, I don't even know that you've, do you even know who you are? Yeah. Pillar of the community. Who are you? Fuck off, what do you mean? And you've been gone for years on your magical ninja journey. But like, this is a city with millions of people in it. You're not like, fuck. A lot of, there are cities with millions and millions of people in it and they don't know the name of their mayor. This is, yeah, like, we haven't like discussed, this isn't even the episode yet. Batwoman, Kate Kane, at the end of the episode, she wasn't happy and Luke was like probing her on it. And she said, because, yeah, she prevented stolen stuff from getting stolen, but it was just rich people stuff or they probably wouldn't even have cared. That's, that's retarded logic. Oh yeah, Magpie should have stolen the priceless jewels from poor people. But not to mention, he had to remind her that she prevented explosions from going off. Like, how do you forget that? Not that they were lethal, but like, it's just so poorly written. You know what they're going for? That's an interesting story. Like, having jewel thieves is kind of a, especially nowadays, that's one of those almost old-timey kind of crimes that you don't always hear about. It's like, ooh, like, someone's going around stealing priceless jewelry. Yeah, like, nowadays it's just good old-fashioned white collar of crime, like, inside a trading. You know, nothing that interesting. I'm going back to the good old days. And that's all I got. So, really quickly, if you ever wonder how far away the bat signal is from Wayne Towers, just look at this. Oh, shit, yeah. That doesn't even make sense. Like, how did... What they did is they moved it. What they did with one of the episodes, when it needed to be shined up at Wayne Tower, it literally was moved to a different location. Because the bat signals were originally at the place in the first episode, right? Which was basically, like, ground floor. They had, like, a ceiling and a roof. They had, like, one floor and a roof. It looked like a museum or something. And now, it's on the very top of a very tall skyscraper, a completely different place, and it's just sitting there. They totally moved where the bat signal was, just to have it to where it could shine directly on. It is, it is convolutedly retarded. The logical thing, and this is why the comics do it, generally the bat signal is on top of the Gotham Police Department. Like, it makes sense. I like the idea that... I think as Batman begins, right, they're just like, oh, this is Gordon's weird project. His life, he's doing some weird shit. And then people stop believing it and knowing it, and they're like, can we use it to actually call him? We need him. Oh, he's a bad guy. All this other stuff is all very interesting because Gotham Police Department has loads of TV shows to go through with. Hence why there's a whole TV show based after them. I hear that that one has declined in quality as well. There's like a shit ton of TV shows in relation to not just DC now, but Batman, if you know what I mean. Yeah, like the ancillary characters, the extended... There's the Alfred Pennyworth TV show as well. This is what it means. It's like a very rich setting. There's a lot you can do in this show, utterly squanders it. People watching at home, they'll be like half an hour into a video, Oh no, no. We're just reviewing stuff we've already seen. No new information has been presented to us so far. I fucking guarantee you, that little fucking note list, it's getting bigger and bigger every time, because the more episodes there are, the more chances they have to fuck everything up. Yeah, there's no repairing here. That's just bad. I never understood why you stopped looking for me. But you do know, you know what you exactly know. You do know. You've noted from long ago that the audience did. Oh, guys. We got some great music. Why is that corpse bleeding? We're just going to leave him sitting out. Yep. Alright. Look, Muffin! How are you smiling at? How do you have access to this? She's just everywhere she needs to be at any time, she could go wherever she wants. She could do whatever she wants. All three break-ins were nine minutes apart. That shit in nine minutes? Wow. I don't know if you managed to chop up eight pieces. Is that Alice? No, it's too sick even for her. Too sick even for her. I'll look into whatever the hell she could be using the skin for. I'll look into what she could be using the skin for. Okay. The plan for Gossum ends today. Oh, now you give a shit about Stubborn. Now she's going to know what she's using. First doesn't have night vision goggles? Batman doesn't do goggles. Batman doesn't have night vision goggles. Sorry, but she said she put the tracker in him to follow him straight back to Alice. That was the plan. She's only now doing it because Alice is stealing skin. These people eat directly out of cans. Why don't they like cook? Because if you ruin all I have been working for with your Okay, that acting. I'm fucking psycho. We're just standing around with shotguns. I have several questions. Guys, just stand back to back. Oh, Jesus, darn it. That one's already here. That woman is right there. She's night vision goggles. What is this? Oh my God. Look at the amount of light in the room. How do you see there's no night vision goggles? Why would she need night vision? The room is lit. A bat stick. She's standing there. I'm not afraid of the dark, and I'm not afraid of you. Show yourself. You can see, but it's clearly bright out. That's it? Oh, what? Okay. I had questions already because of the fucking eating out of cans. Four minutes into this episode, we stopped and caught Alice and her gang. That's it. Done. This is a villain that just said she can't have her boyfriend fucking up her big plans. You nearly fucked up your plans several times already. How can you be this concerned that he'll ruin it? All right. Batwoman obviously has... I say obviously, maybe it didn't happen. Called the police, the crows. Hey, there's Batwoman, by the way. Hello. I found Alice's lair. I knocked out all of the Batman. They're all tied up. They're here at this address for you, so you can go ahead and just take care of it all. I took Alice by myself. I got an interrogator for bat reasons. So we're done. Why is she... I mean, that entire scene, the choreography was clearly very bright. It was very bright. They want us to be able to see, but they don't realize that making us see means that the people in the room can see unless you're at night vision, which you would. You were just showing the room. First off, don't give me the bullshit that Batman who works exclusively at night doesn't have night vision goggles. That's retarded. Don't play for a second. The idea that she has her location, she knows she's murdered several people, and she's like, that's good. They catch you fucking with dead bodies, and it's like, that's it. And she takes down the entire thing in a second, like... Yeah, it's the desecration of corpses. That is what pushes pain. That's what pushes hip. To finally take her into custody, quote-unquote, custody. It's not the murders. It's not the bomb attempts on civilians. None of that. It's cutting skin off of corpses. I'm so ready for this episode to just fuck with me over and over again. Yeah. A minute ago, you were telling your boyfriend you'd kill him if you betrayed him, and now that you're captured, you're just fine. Which, by the way, pretty sure is... just a guess, she'll escape in this episode. Of course she'll escape. By the way, in the fight scene, before they start fighting, they do this shot, which is clearly some kind of night vision shot. It's like, why don't do this all the way through? Yeah, even there you can see lots of light coming through the fucking windows. Yeah. Get rid of the light and do a real night vision thing. And is this access to night vision? You could have done something really creative in this scene. You could have had the whole scene go pitch black and then cut to the piece. It's stylistic. They could have done it. You could have done a lot of coping. I love the idea that they're all just flabbergasted by this ghost of a person attacking them one by one when they all have guns and access to it. Yeah, it's like, just shoot her. She's right there. Just standing there with her bat stick. Just shoot her. Alice is just ending in the back end watching. Yeah. I'm not afraid of you. That's it. Is this all of them? The whole gang. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven people. Where are the gods? The gang size is dependent on the plot. You know this. That's true. It is as big or as small as it needs to be at any given stage. Did they just like pull on their masks the second that she arrived? No, they were wearing their mask at their lair while they were eating out of the cans. They were eating directly out of cans. The stylistic even for you. The stylistic even for you to steal skin compared to me. Dodgson said you had plans with a mouse. Your attention-starved stepsister illegally drugged him. She's actually appealing to the law. Wow. Alice really? So like, where'd she get this cage from? If you keep going down this road it's the bad page. If you keep going down this road it's gonna end badly. What the hell? What happened to you? Are you the great detective? No. What about her as a detective? Detective's question people. What are you doing? Calling Dad. Just letting him know I'm with you. But he'll track your phone. What do you mean you're with Alice? Just thought you should know. What the fuck? What? Why? Why the boss of the crows is saying you've caught the villain of the city by... What? She did that as a threat, right? But if Alice is freed by her, which they're doing a buddy-couple. They're just chilling. They're just- They're having a great time. We're on vacation. We're going canoeing. It's great. Isn't crow boss gonna be like, dude, what happened? Are you okay? Where did she go? You had her in custody. What the fuck? He's gonna have people running around. What are you doing? She's killed at least five people. What is wrong with Kate Cage? She's like mentally ill. They're just driving down the car. It's over. Who am I targeting next? How am I going to do it? When you really need to be asking why? We already know why. Why am I like this? Okay, why? Oh, you don't want to know that. What? Why? You must be terrified. Where am I? He's gonna be a horrible fucking monster. Look, he's doing the whole Ned Flanders thing. He's gonna be a horrible monster. Remember, we already had the flashback about the skin mask from earlier. Oh yeah, that's probably this guy. He probably makes skin masks. What is that? Oh, a little experiment. Man, it's hard to like, deliver background information on characters in an interesting way. Just have them tell the other character everything. They've been very consistent with delivering a hard exposition. Why would she call you and not tell you where she was? No idea. She knows I'll trace the call. Why haven't you? No. We should get a team together. No, for now it's just you and me. Sorry. I don't need to read you. Founder. She's headed west on the interstate. Let's go. Just the two of them are gonna do it. They're not sending a whole team. They're gonna get captured or killed or hurt or... Well, there's... Yeah, I mean, I'll be... Are you covering up for the lab's mistake? What? This is clearly ADR. Now you wouldn't do that. Because how would we... Ooh, it's bad ADR too. I'm so sorry. Maybe not, but I don't want you to hear it from me. Not from Jacob or Kate, from me. Why not just use mine? You told me you didn't do this. Guarantee you it was the water or something fucked with it and they didn't realize it. They didn't have to be by the water. They're too fucking stupid to realize it in the moment. It was fucked up and they couldn't fix it. Now, first question. Surely her picture is around the place, right? Hang on, she's just... She's just chained up there. There's no one care. They're eating at a restaurant. By the way, they're just eating at a restaurant. Is that all very concerning? She's got fries. She's got her chicken tendies. She's wearing sunglasses. How do people figure out that Kate is Batwoman when she's hanging out with a villain of Gotham? What the hell? No, she's wearing sunglasses. It's her disguise. Can you imagine if Saddam Hussein was just sitting at a bar, like, having a beer? We spent half our lives together. Half? What do you mean half? Are they playing characters that are, like, 16 or something? It's Levi-o-sa. I can do any voice I hear. Why do you cover your face like that? I'll scare people. You don't scare me? You're interested in this program with working news. They've expanded their search for the Missing Cane girl to the county. If this Ned Flanders is... Evil Ned Flanders left the TV on, really? Yeah, like, holy crap. Johnny. Johnny. He's spooky music. No, Ned Flanders, please. Oh, Ned, no! Down in the Gotham Diddly basement. Down into the face mask station. Oh, wow. This is real evil, quick. Go into the closet. I like how they wanted to do the degrees of evil, like, slow, but there's like, nah, he just... Nope, evil. Oh, give us the face mask. Please, give us the face mask. Look at that. He just stole that. I was trapped in a basement with a face mask. You're like, okay. Oh, that old quick cut. All right. I'm so sorry I was ever born from the wicked witch of Gotham. It's avoiding me, but I'm told... This is so unrealistic. Like, if you were genuinely upset, you wouldn't be making quips. Are you okay? Catheryn and I are going through a rough patch. Copy that, sir. You're going through a pumpkin patch. She said copy that, sir. Catheryn paid the DNA analyst. Dude, we're just telling everybody about this. Is UK where your wife is going to jail eventually, then? The only way to settle this for good is to catch Alice, run her DNA, and let science tell us the truth. Let science tell us the truth. Could we have done this in episode one? Was that a thing? A different meaning. My dear son didn't get the opportunity to develop a sense of purpose because the world made him an outcast. No, he's still very, very young. He can still do that. He waited a very long time for someone like you. He hasn't been alive for a very long time. Don't cry. Oh, Ned. So his son got scarred and he waited for a girl to get into an accident and get knocked out in a forest that he could capture. Well, it could have been anyone. I guess it just happened. He just happened to stumble. He would be a little bit more proactive at that point. You know, like, he would just wait for this to happen. He's cool with kidnapping. He would just grab the girl in general, right? He wouldn't wait for a car crash in the forest. The people in the booth right next to him are like, Dude, what the fuck? Just don't look at him. What are you? What am I like, Kate? Dude, they wanted to do a scene where she goes to grab the cup and knocks it over, but she's so deliberately pushed it across the whole table. How does this work? Your handcuffed? What are you going to do? Drag her out? What? They got beat up. They got beat up. They're not there anymore. What? They're just on the roof. There's a propane tank on the east. What? What the fuck? They're all just standing around a propane tank so a bullet just killed them all. This is giant propane tank. Oh my God. This is an arrest, I guess, while they're being cooked alive. He's so fucking useless, that character. 10 of us ambush them with AK-47s and they're just fine. You divided it. This city's not safe. The wealthy are safe. They got more... Instead of no one being safe, you only made the wealthy people safe. Sir, no, you're being emotional. Stop it. I like how he punched them several times in the face. There's like no blood or anything. Yeah, all the blood's on the other side of his face but you didn't punch him there. Can we pause? So Alice's plan was to have her guys who are apparently they're back, they're fine, we're good. Nothing happened. We're cool. I guess I was correct. Either Batwoman didn't tie them up and call the police or the crows and say, oh, they're out here. How did they find Alice? How did they find Alice? The continuity is Alice was captured put handcuffs on... I guess Alice could have used the phone when she drugged him. Was the restaurant Alice's choice then? I guess it was. How did she get a message to her guys or was this all planned? She could have used Kate's phone. Her dude to get there before the head of the crow they had left way earlier. That's because the crows are fucking useless. They got here before Kate... My criticism was assuming the crows arrived seconds later. I didn't actually consider the idea that it was possible. They'd started first. Jacob and Sophie started first but all the henchmen got there first. That's why I assumed it was all planned. How could she have gotten the message out that these guys were here? I guess Alice's plan was that they ambushed them with AK-47s and killed Jacob and Sophie. Her father and Sophie? This whole plan would have been ruined if when she got caught by Kate they just took her straight to prison. It was like cool. There's so many variables. She knows she's a meaner than Kate. Which was such a stupid move from how to get the drugs. How did she get the drugs? I understand that's what she did but actually how? What scene was it? Is it going to be a throwaway line when Kate wakes up? I knew a few more thefts would stir you into action. Arrange for a friend to drug your drink. The amount of things that had to happen for Alice to have this go this way. Holy shit. Kate could have just given you up to the crows. I'm shocked she didn't. When she was talking to a boyfriend about Don't Ruin the Plan, Dodgson was in the original fight. He's in the later fight which means he escaped. Yeah, these are those guys. These are the same ones that Batwoman beat up. Now attempting to murder Batwoman's father. She just let them go. She doesn't give a fuck. She's the most incompetent superhero I've ever seen. You know Captain Marvel? She's OP as fuck and she constantly wins everything. She's tauted. She's lucky that she manages to actually achieve anything. You do realize the skin is probably for a child that's probably still alive and probably somewhere in their base. Also we got a bar here. There's just a well-stocked bar here. Let me call you a guard. The penthouse built on lies of falsely-dead children. Lies of falsely-dead... No, it wasn't built on that. I am going through a major family crisis here. I don't care. No one cares about you. Kate Kane's not fucking here. You don't know who Luke is. Go out for some sisterly bonding with a cold-blooded killer? What? How do you know that they're together? The entire goal right now with Alice is to discover her plans and stop them. What the fuck are you talking about? How many people have I murdered? Good sister! No, I'm with you on that point. You found the cracker, Dean. I arranged for a friend to drug your drink. A friend? A friend of his works in that bar, I guess. I guess. You killed people. Why is this supposed to make us feel sorry for you? This sucks, but you're a horrible person. But success, I eventually did make mine. You can't pick them up with a nail. That's not how this works. You can't pick them up with a nail! What? Wow, this was easy. What did you wait until nighttime when he's asleep to do this? She made this out to be extremely difficult. It didn't seem that hard. You can leave. Just leave, bro. Go. Down the street screaming. No, no, no. 9-1-1. Daddy, it's me, Beth. You have to help. If anyone comes looking for you, I will kill them, and it will be all your fault. She used their innocence as a weapon against me. At this point, there's so much exposition that they may as well have just restructured the show to actually show all of this in continuity, in the timeline, instead of just... Wait, they actually go to the house. Look, that flat is his house. My daughter, Beth, called me not one hour ago from this house. She said, help, clear as can be. It was my son. He has nobility, mimicry. So, my son mimics your daughter. Hi, Daddy. It's me, Beth. What? He saw a home video clip on the nightly news. Fuck off, crap show. I cannot believe they're... Our son actually can do this. She's found the secret area. It just so happens that we have a son who has the ability to mimic little girls perfectly. What a coincidence. Fucking, Kate's almost to the reveal. You kidding me? Say anything? Say anything. Um, say a thing. I got it. I know what's happening. He told her that if anyone comes, they'll kill, they'll be killed. But they're already here. They're here. All you have to say is, yeah, I'm behind here, but be quiet. Just leave and bring the police. Bring everybody. Bring the National Guard. But just don't let them know that you know I'm here. That's all you have to say. Also, little girl, you realize that she could have been tied up, right? Yeah. You didn't tell your dad about that route? Like, wow, no wonder Alice is pissed. Why didn't the fuck you say something? He told me if I made a peep. Kill people very casually, Alice. I can't feel sorry for you. This is so stupid. I waited for you to sense. So whose fault is this exactly? The last. I don't know, Alice, who are we blaming at this point? You didn't use your ESP to detect me behind the door? I guess what they say about twins being connected is just fantasy. Yes. Yes, you literally don't fucking shit. Why, you think you can just communicate telepathically with your twin? You should have said I was there, bitch. It's like, okay. I relied on the rumor of telepathic twins to save me, and it didn't work. I just love the fact that he's like, I'm gonna kill anyone who tries to save you. He's like, oh, I best not say anything then. Like, you fucking... Oh, I remember this. They're acting like nothing fucking happened? He's gonna realize. 15 years ago, I know where they are. I know where they are. Of all the things that have happened, that's for the most reason. Watch him, watch him not call anybody. No backup. He's not telling anybody where they're going. Why is she still here? It was about the same thing. And why was he searching very sensitive things right in front of her? Oh my god, Alice is a skin pirate? Of course she is. I know, I know. Don't tell people about all the fucking fakes! He's fucking asshole! I'm a guy named Jonathan Carrerite who admitted to having a similar hobby of stealing skin from dead people. It's again, the audience knows these two characters and so they just work together, right? It's so that he can say this shit out loud for the audience. You think this creep is something to do with Alice? I think the timing feels incredibly suspicious. Like everything that happens in the show, the timing is incredibly suspicious. Fuck it, I'm out of timing. Guess it's dark now. I got the front. You take the back. How about you call back up, retod you try to save the life of your daughter? You have a whole organization of ex-navy seals and green berets. Why are you not making use of your resources? They're gonna get attacked, they're gonna get into fights with it's life or death stakes. Man, if only they had a shotgun in their fucking car. She's pulling out a pin so that she can lock, pick and escape. She's pulling out of her shoe, wasn't she? Yeah, she can reach the nails. What's in the pins and shoes? This is not something we should be doing this early, but alright. Is Kate okay? Is Kate happy? Yeah, she hadn't murdered anyone. She's done a homework, seen a doctor. Do it! Do it! What are you doing? When I called you and you didn't even believe it was me. But he's under the impression you're dead, you fuck. Yeah, he thought you were dead. You know that his wife came into thinking you were dead. There's still a reason to assume you're a crazy person who's assumed the identity of his daughter, by the way. You told your men to kill me. Yeah, you told your men to kill him. You never cared. How is this a psycho murderer? Don't you dare hug. Don't you dare hug. Don't you dare hug. She's gonna stab him. Nice one! Why does this show? Oh my goodness. Oh, she's so crazy. Why? It's like, why are you angry at him? I guess it's because he didn't believe it. Oh, no, she found the face mask. Very well conserved as well. It's the brother. It's the brother. So, you know how I said they'd get into life or death steak fights without their back? It was established that he could do voices. Wait, she pulled a pin. You can't just leave more than that. What the hell? Why are you running away? How did you get out without bumping into those two? I guess when she came up through the basement she didn't fucking notice this guy. How did you not notice this? You were the basement. You just ran out without noticing this? You need to decide right now what you care more about. Revenge or mouse? No, why didn't you just shoot her? How is this happening? What is going on? It's the floor. That's not a very heroic thing to do. Why you show you have not explained why she wants to kill her father? That's not something you've justified. At what point do you pull the trigger? I'm sorry, like at what point do you not kill people? He stabs! He needs medical attention. Or head off. Killer. No, no, no. You have more guns. Shoot her. Shoot her. Shoot her. Killer. Dead. Don't let them go get away again. You're going to let them escape. Why are you not shooting? You're actually letting them escape. You're fucking kidding me. He's been stabbed. The episode is like let's wrap up folks. That's the end of the episode. Let's wrap up. I'm honestly at a loss for words. I cannot believe this. My thoughts are spilled. I have no thoughts. They've flown away. It's bad that I can't even narrow in on what the bad thing is that I need to talk about. It's intense. This is like incredibly bad. I can't believe that. I was there and I didn't feel her. How am I supposed to connect with her now when I couldn't connect with her then? I was there and I didn't connect with my dad. Your dad is up and moving. You're fucking kidding me. Didn't you be in the hospital? He wouldn't be allowed to leave this bullshit. Why not? Why does that mean he literally wears skin faces? What if he didn't rot? I thought you felt me in your dreams. Every night. Fuck am I watching? I shouldn't have tricked your dad and sister. Why did you? This was your chance to get out. I also don't want you to go. I want to be your friend. Jesus Christ. We can be friends after we escaped the killer psychopath. Please, priorities. Is this Alice in Wonderland? Oh, they're loving this shot, aren't they? Mm-hmm. Oh, fuck off. I love how everyone wanted it to be that the Mad Hatter villain from Batman was the one who, like, bothered her. It was just Ned Flanders. This is her ultimate plan, by the way, or is that something else? I have a gift for you, too. She has more skin samples. They've just been sitting there. They've just been sitting here. You know that that's dead skin, right? You know that this... Oh, fuck that. Okay. All right, whatever. It's just like, I... That was the worst episode, man. That was the worst episode. I can't believe it. This is insane. This is absolutely nuts. We've gone off the actual deep end of things happening. Shit just happens. Unironically, this is the most significant time I've ever said this, but where do we begin? The episode begins with Alice going to morgues and cutting up bodies for skin. This is something she does. Nine minutes between them. She's just boom, boom, boom, goes into morgues, gets bodies, cuts them up. Oh, and by the way, important to note that she's not using gloves in these scenes, by the way. So fingerprints everywhere. Necrotic flesh being put into an ice thing that's left on the floor that's stuck to a guy's face. I don't even... Okay. She gets all the body parts and then instantly in the next scene, oh, it's a good... Yeah, the police don't have access to these cameras, all the Wayne CCTV cameras. We can see everything. Oh look, here's a camera of Alice leaving the morgue. Here she's getting into her car. Here she's doing this. They could just see everything. Everything that Alice does, they have camera access to. Very, very convenient. Bruce must literally have millions of cameras everywhere around the city and no one bats an eye. Ha, bats an eye. Picture this, we're Alice. All four of us are Alice right now, so we're like, all right, my goal is to share with Kate Kane, my sister, the horrible it was to grow up in this house. That seems to be her goal with her. Also, sub-goal or main goal, I don't really know, kill Jacob Kane. We got to get him. He's the bad man. We're killing him because he forgot about us even though he was convinced by his evil step, evil wife that I was actually dead and there was convincing evidence. This is not some arbitrary thing. There was convincing evidence. The kid who actually it actually could do voices just happened to be the son of the guy who kidnapped. Incredible, absolutely incredible. That breaks the whole logic of Alice because she's best friends with the person who is directly responsible for deceiving her father and keeping her captive. No, no, no, no, Fringy. You're crazy. Yeah, she's just crazy and he was nice to her afterwards. He gave her a book. Justify everything can be justified if you're even villains crazy. So he allowed her to be kept in a prison that turned her insane over the years and kept away from her family but he's forgiven because, no, he's fine. The dad was given actual evidence by trained professionals that his daughter had been killed slash was died and so he eventually gave up after, what was it, like a 12, 16 month search or something? Like an excessively long search. That's a long time and he deserves to die. Yeah. He deserves death for that. Okay. Yeah. And then it was like, so to enact this plan we're gonna steal some skin. Well, that doesn't actually matter. She's just waiting for Batwoman to come capture all these people because there's a tracker inside her boyfriend. Okay. And when she does, guys, hopefully she doesn't put you in prison, right? She just leaves you on the floor. I'm gonna convince her to take me to a restaurant, okay? And they're like, but, but, but boss, what if she doesn't do that? What if she just takes you in prison? She's like, no, no, she, she won't. She won't. This is Tate Cain. She is an absolute retard. She will do anything that I tell her to. Hopefully she just rings her dad and her dad tracks the call while also deciding to come alone so that I can kill him. I don't know if that was involved in the plan or not. I really, I'm so confused about this. But boss, the boss, so is the plan for her to beat the shit out of us? Yes. But hopefully she doesn't kill you or arrest you. Uh, and then I want you guys, once you wake back up or stop pretending to be down go to the restaurant and prepare for however many police arrive. Hopefully it's just the one, maybe two. Not that you guys can handle. You guys have AKs. This five of you, you've got you've got the high ground with one of you guys. You're fine. You'll be able to take them out. They're all fucking nuked by a propane tank, which by the way Oh, but boss, were they captured or were they not? I don't think they were. Oh, we don't know. They'll probably be around. Boss, I have a question. Um, so you want us to kill the father that you want to confront personally? Yes. However, right? Anything you say. Contingency plaid. If for some reason you guys are defeated, then you'll probably track the phone or he'll just randomly remember a house to go to. He will not call for backup, and then I will have my final confrontation with him in which I will decide he needs to die. But the moment I can actually finally decide to deliver the kill shot, it's too late. You can kill them all the way up to that point. That woman exiting the basement, ignoring all of this just goes outside. We have now not only is that we've had issues with this show before with characters getting to places, but now we have direct conflict between in order to get to the place where you're at. You have to pass people in those, you have to walk past people. You have to walk past your dying father Alice. Yeah. And you just ignore. How come Jacob Cain never asks? So how did you capture Alice? How are you even here with her? You said you said you're with Alice. I guess that'll be next episode, but clearly not. He saw her at the end of this episode because he was released from the hospital after a brutal stab wound. Yeah. I would be like how the hell did you find Alice? Not tell anyone. Capture her. Not really tell us. Take her someplace. Get captured yourself by her. Lure us into an ambush. Like what the fuck happened, Kate? Who are you? My point was just going to be how long is Jacob having been stabbed? And it seems to be a long time, especially considering how long it would take to get him to the hospital or even an ambulance to get there. I just... He was easily able to be killed here, but it's just one of those cheap shots that TV shows do. It's like, oh, will he die? It's like, no, he's fine. Next episode, he'll have a limp. And then next episode after that, he'll be fine. This show is insane. You've got this. Oh, we have the motivation for the boyfriend. The crows were supposed to keep people safe, but all they could do is keep rich people safe. Well, this is the problem with... If the crows were designed to bolster the police, but they only go for places that pay for them, then they are just private security. Yeah, it's a private... Yeah, it's a private security company. So, yeah, like, this is the part where I'm confused. I'm like, so is it a private security company or is it funded by question mark and it gets put into public places every once in a while to bolster the security of Gotham in general, but then you can hire them privately if you want to. I don't know, like, it might be easy. It's a no. The city can contract them. Yeah, the city can contract them. But if that's the case, then he wouldn't be right in saying that, right? Because if the city contracts them, then they're going to be covering everywhere. As the police's fault. Yeah. Why is he got such a problem with the crows when they were just... That sounds like there's a lot of variables once again. By the way, it's pretty hard for the crows to operate when they're fucking moles inside them that are trying to subvert their amenities, so don't even go there, Mr. Traitor. But, like, we saw them, you know, that stupid Gotham movie in the first episode where they watched a movie, like, they were all there. What are they supposed to do? Like, he's like, oh, they're protected the rich people. Are those the rich people going to see the movie in the rain? Remember I asked you, what do you think they're going to do, Alice Episode versus Monster of the Week? This is... I think that's going to be our two choices. This is an Alice Episode. Villain of the Week next episode. Probably. Yeah, and then probably another Alice one. The Alice ones are clearly the quote-unquote plot ones, like, they're driving the plot of the season. The season will end with, you know, something will happen to Alice and stuff. But the issue is it's like, you know, you can only have your hero and your villain meet up so many times before people start getting annoyed, and it's just like, you can't do this. I called for Beth and she didn't answer, so she must not be there. Like, what the hell? She is upset that Kate didn't use her mystical twin magical twin tele... Her logic her logic is so inverted. She blames her sister even though she should have called out to tell her that she was in there, and she blames her dad despite the fact that an insurmountable amount of evidence was put forward in front of him. It's so much more complicated than all of that, right? So you've got the audience's criticisms of everyone involved in this calamity, but then you've also got Alice's perspective on all the people involved. So, for Alice, it's her twin failed to detect her with her telekinesis, her dad failed to keep looking for her, and I guess the stepsister is at fault for being a stepsister. That's her main gripes with everybody, it seems to be. And she's willing to kill for these things. But then for the audience, it's like, wow, Kate, you really fucked up when you found that door and did nothing about it. Wow, Kate's dad, you were willing to search like, every part of the house except the one part that Beth was actually in, like, excellent fucking job, and you believe the story that... I'm still stuck on why the son who got along with Beth was happy to just go along with saying yes, I totally faked being your daughter because I'm an asshole. Listen to me fake your daughter's voice. It's like, why would you do this? Why wouldn't you just say, yeah... Did they never have an opportunity to escape? Like, did the dad never have to win you? Yeah, for years, I guess. Yeah, I don't know how long that lasted. And then now I'm wondering, Alice, where did you get your resources then? So you were trapped here and we finally escaped and then got your 50 new threads, fucking shit tons of money and henchmen to follow you to like a ridiculous degree, like they seem die hard. And yeah, like, she blames everybody like, she doesn't really seem to have much of a problem with Evil Mum. That's the one she should be focusing all of her fury on. Mary is more upset than Alice is. And I like how, by the way, the defense for this episode I imagine, for when she stabs the dad monster kill him would be like, yeah, well, she's, you know, she's mentally unstable. It's like, the whole fucking episode is trying to justify her. The writers are mentally... This whole episode is trying to make us feel sorry for Alice. Alice will casually kill innocent people and we're supposed to feel sorry for her. Yeah. Yeah, you outnumbered her. This is an interesting thing. Backup, by the way. Backup would destroy this whole episode. You know, like how in Batman there's often a sort of a debate about whether or not Batman is accountable for Joker's subsequent, you know, carnage if he, you know, doesn't kill him. Like in this you are accountable. You had opportunities to just take her in and you didn't do that. It's a fascinating question of do you jail a person who's Evil at risk of them escaping and doing more Evil, but then the responsibility is kind of on the jailers slash jail. Right. But also sometimes you know he has resources and followers. So is it really the jailer's fault when they'll probably have high resources to get him above all? There's lots of interesting questions about that, but this one is literally I'm going to capture her now because you know what stealing skin crosses the line. Yeah. I've never seen her more invested in stopping Alice. She really has a thing for scared, I guess. And it took her like two minutes to get her. It's like, oh, that was easy. Who wants to bet this was the high point of bad or that we're just getting started. I can't even hazard a guess. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not willing to wage her anymore. No, it is impossible. You don't know. Also, apparently Luke is so content with her being that woman now that he even changed the look of the gadgets. Oh, wow. You're right. Red bad ranks. I hope they're properly calibrated. What if Bruce shows up and he's like, Luke, what the fuck are you doing? You just let what? Also, he only did it for the one grenade. The other grenades are normal. Oh, my God. Can you fucking imagine this is a side project for him spray painting the fucking gear. How embarrassing. Yeah. This is the guy who's supposed to be batwing, right? We still don't know why he follows here. Why he's okay with her. We haven't answered that. We're just going along now. Yeah. Don't forget the first two times they meet, she assaults him. And she's extremely incompetent as a hero. She's using this incredible technology for poor use. She let Alice go several times. Yeah. I love the idea that... At what point do you stop her and be like, come on, Kate, listen, look, I know you have a fun role playing, but like people are dying because of you. I was imagining the deep debriefing after they come back, after he's been stabbed like, so what happened? So Kate found Alice. You mean like the bad guy Alice. Yeah. Okay. How many people did you take together? One. Oh, did you have any gear on? I have my suit. We also just took my private car, my blue pickup truck. Then we got assaulted by six, seven people, but we all blew them up. It's fine. You have her friend at the dyna giver drug. Good thing they were standing next to that propane tank. What happened then? What if Kate didn't order a drink? Yeah, I'm not thirsty. It's like, oh, I guess that's the end of the plan then. So when did you get stabbed? Oh, there was Alice. Okay, what happened then? Oh, we had like a standoff and then we let her go. You did fucking what? So here's the thing. I had my gun pointed at her and I just didn't kill her as she was pointing a gun at my father. At what point does the love of your good, virtuous father overrule the love of the murderous sister? This show is really rolling on the she loves her deep down. They're sisters. But I'm like, man, she stabbed your dad. She stabbed your father and is threatening to she was just about to kill him before you walked in. At what point are you like, all right, like enough is enough? You don't even need to fucking shoot her in the head. Just shoot her somewhere. She's like down. Like, you know, make it to where she's not going to be able to like actually harm anybody anymore. Yeah. Like, even if that even if that means kneecapping us, like, yeah, I mean that's still probably not like she really probably jail would be very kind after like five people. I guess a lot of people to kill. Yeah. Is this the most incompetently thing written ever that we know of? Most incompetently thing ever written. I think I because I'm I'm I've I've never before has anything like this. Again, I want to highlight it. Was there even a hint of SJW shit in this episode? Like if you it's not even relevant, like it's not relevant. The focus is here. It's just the worst kind of inconsistent writing. You can only took one. They only took one dig at Batman with the whole, oh, Batman doesn't have night vision goggles. Who's gonna do it? And she's annoyed at Batman for not having night vision goggles. Also, how lucky that the traitor guy was like not knocked out or killed by the explosion. Well, I don't know what's happened to those guys. Yeah, you would think that in any normal in any other show in any other sane show. This wouldn't have happened because after they get beat the fuck up, Batman would have done this. Batman would have been like a professor, commissioner, commissioner Gordon. I knocked out all the bad guys there at this location. They're disarmed and tied up. Oh, thanks Batman. That was a great great work you did apprehending those criminals. But I have something to settle with their leader with Alice. After I get my information from her, I'll turn her over. You know? But no, like the opposite happens. Nothing came of that. Just to clarify, Batman went to Alice's lair with all of her henchmen, beat up all of her henchmen, captured the leader Alice and nothing happened as a result of that. Yeah, no, you could skip this episode technically. The only thing you, you know, I mean in that regard because obviously knowing some more of her backstory is important in fucking quotation marks. That whole scene at the beginning is nullified by the end of this episode. She casually decides she's going to capture and destroy Alice's organization. She does it. People might be like, well, obviously they deliberately let her win in that opening scene because it's a part of their plan. It's like they did not know that she wouldn't immediately call the crows. They could have had the crows pour in. Yeah, they were shooting bullets towards her, sort of. The whole, that plan would have gone fucked if that worked, eh? Oh yeah, exactly. She's coming in, shoot at her with your bullets. What a hideous episode. Like, let's be frank. Alice is upset that Kate, as a little girl, didn't use her twin ESP to sense her through the door. Just because that's actually what Alice expected to happen. Alice is angry at other people for not using magic powers. I just, I can't believe that's not hyperbolic. That's actually why she's upset. So Kate has emergency nails in her boots, I guess? You know, as one does. I mean, I think that's, to be fair, I think that's actually how those boots are made. Well, then, if that's true, then why was that like her second go-to? Didn't want to damage her boots. It took her so long to decide to try and do that. How long was she even whatever? That's not how locks work. You can't just stick a nail into a keyhole and be like, oh yeah. Like, why do you think keys open particular locks? Like, how? I've never seen like a guide on it, but it's like, you're supposed to this, like one holds up the latches or whatever the other one. Goes to each individual, yeah, little slot to move them and get them all in place. Isn't a nail just, whatever. It's just a metal stick. It's just a little bitty metal stick. It's like a tiny bat stick. I can't believe it. This is actually the worst thing just ever. Just the worst thing ever. Yeah, okay. Well, yeah, that about wraps it up, I guess. That was episode five. That was episode five. And it was the worst of them all. I would say that I can't get worse, but I know it can. It definitely can. And I'm looking forward to it, I suppose. But I need, this is why it's good this weekly. I need recovery time now. I need to recharge my I need to be reminded that this stuff is a surprise instead of feeling like this is normal. I need to go back to being like, yeah, good writers exist. This is fine. Compare this to like fucking anything that's competent and it's like, how does this get made? Why are you trying to make something bad? Why are you going out of your way to make a stupid story? Just have her fighting criminals with her gadgets. You clearly can't you can't handle that, but you certainly can't handle anything more. That's all it could have been. Batwoman fights. He made it almost like a serial parody. You know, you could have been super simple, just oh no, there's a new villain this week. How are we going to discover it? See you next week, folks. Bye. Wanna die? Why did you bring me?