 It's your day to experience joy. This is hope today. We're so glad that you're with us. I'm Anna and I'm here with Tom and Sydney and Sydney. We have an exciting guest today. I know Anna is super excited because if you love contemporary Christian music then you don't want to miss our upcoming conversation with Lee Capolino who is part of the trio Point of Grace. She's going to share the inspiration behind their latest album and you're going to hear their new single too. And I know that they saw their things that God has deposited in her heart that she wants to share with you today and Anna and Tom I know Anna is like very excited because this is a big part of like you're growing up in your childhood with the music and inspired you. Wow that's right. I mean where are my sisters and brothers from the 90s when Steady On came out by Point of Grace and like I just remember putting that CD in my car and jamming out or like bebopping around my kitchen I was 20 years old. So we're excited to have Point of Grace to have a little fun. And we're going to have a music video with their new song Turn Your Eyes which is a re-do kind of not a re-do but a completely re-fashioned version of the old hymn Turn Your Eyes On Jesus. It's funny because when I heard that I can hear a friend of mine who is still a friend singing to the Lord just extemporaneously I'm going to turn my eyes on Jesus look full in his wonderful face and the things of earth will go strangely dim in the light of his glory and grace it's an old hymn that just says so much about you know where we need to have our focus. Yeah that's right there's something about old hymns and yeah their new music is beautiful so you'll have a chance a little bit later on to hear one of their new songs. And I think it's so important for us too is just like thinking about turning our eyes and I know right now in our world there are so many things that are happening we just want to encourage you today that there is nothing like fixing your face fixing your gaze looking up to Jesus and so whatever you're walking through whatever circumstance you're dealing with there's something you know I just want to share with you real quick that I was in a prayer meeting over the weekend and this woman shared something with me that I've been doing that I would encourage you and challenge you to do in the morning going through the ABCs of God so you say like Abba he's beloved he's like going through all the letters of the alphabet and that's a way I've just been starting my day going through ever from A to Z and it is really it really has changed my mindset in the morning I mean it's amazing there's every letter you can go through and for God yeah that's pretty good yeah we need to like post the A through Z like you pick your own you pick whatever it is whatever it is it's like you just go through this whatever comes to mind try it I'm telling you I've been having a great time I'm like oh you are Abba you are beloved you are the Christ your mother liver I mean you can go all the way through try it out yeah right now we're gonna try something else that we call stump the hosts it's been a little while since we've done stump the host and I know I get feedback from people who say they play along so please play along with us we have not seen these questions and hopefully we know the answers here's the first one what famous land did Nebuchadnezzar rule it was Babylon that's our final answer alright yeah Babylon you know I think I guess that the two nations that really gave Israel and Judah a lot of problems of Syria and Babylon so here's our second one in which books of the Bible is a prayer called the Lord's prayer okay so which which book of the Bible so is it talking about like our father in heaven Matthew well it's in more than one yeah Matthew looking for two answers well I'm gonna say Matt I'm gonna guess Matthew and Luke I was gonna say Matthew and Luke oh all right I was gonna say Matthew and John but we'll go with Matthew and Luke okay here's the the final question which disciple said show us the father and it will be enough for us while talking to Jesus I'm pretty sure this was Philip I don't know I'll support you Tom they're supporting me we'll go with Philip getting bigger and bigger it's like sprinkling the joy all around well speaking of joy for more than three decades point of grace has inspired millions with their memorable melodies and heavenly harmonies and the Grammy nominated a dev award-winning trio recently released an album called turn your eyes which features fresh renditions of hymns and Christian contemporary music classics joining us today is Lee Capolino from the trio Lee we are so glad to have you with us today we're thrilled to be with you all this morning well it is such a joy to have you with us and you know Lee before we dive into the new music project and all that God is doing through point of grace can you just share a little bit of the history for those who may be new to your music yeah sure point of grace started in college it was four girls needing a summer job and they were all musically inclined as a part of you know are the the choir of the of the University at Washington University in Arcadelia and so that summer they said let's just find a few churches few youth camps and really thought that that summer after it was over that was going to be thank you and call it a day but what happened with the four girls is we went to Estes Park in Colorado and auditioned for that you know it was kind of like an Christian American Idol if you will and from that from that audition there was the record label Word Records and a wonderful man named John Mays was impressed and from that point on signed a record deal and have lived in Nashville over almost 30 years and we've been doing it for 30 years so it started out with four girls the fourth girl had her third child and lived in Arkansas and she still lives in Arkansas and she retired and when she retired we went down to three and so we've been a trio for almost 20 years now and we you know we we've just kind of like life we've gone up down four three and just watch God continue to be faithful through the through the changes and what a testimony of who he is just love how God he brings us through these journeys and these valleys in the mountains wherever we go and can you just tell us the point of grace what does that mean how did the name come about well then in the very very beginning we were not point of grace we were a group called say so let the redeemed of the Lord say so and when we won and came to Nashville we found out that there was another group already called say so and so we had to go to the drawing board of finding and figuring out what our next name was now I don't know if anybody out there has ever had to figure out a name of anything whether it's the title of a book or the name of whatever it's it's a it's an amazing and a very complex task and so we just put some fillers out and asked people you know we're we're going to sit in this room until we figure it out because it was the 11th hour the record was coming out and the first album was coming out and we sat in a room and John Mays had written down the phrase we as believers meet the Lord at the point of his grace and so there was that little tagline that just stuck and everybody it was just really unanimous that within the four girls that know what that's kind of like hmm okay I like that and so that's how point of grace got its name John John Mays said that it came from a C.S. Lewis book but it's so funny because Shelly the blonde one of the other blondes in the group she went and did some dissecting and she's never quite seen the phrase the point of God's grace but we we just chalk it up to that was Jesus magic for such a time as this and here we are that's right so Lee point of grace has been making music now for three decades that is a long time when I think about what we were like in the college years which is when you got your start to where you are now you've experienced a lot of life in between how have you experienced God's grace and joy in the most recent years well it's like you said we have you know none of us were married at the time and we've all watched ourselves get married we've all become mothers we recently in the last couple of years have experienced our losing a parent and so I think what is unique about us is first of all we're all born with sisters none of us ever had brothers and we learned to share and we learned to share life from curling irons to disappointment and we are all three weeks away from each other we were all born the same year within three weeks of each other so we all have celebrated the fifties together and well as we look back in life I think it's just unique how God just allowed when Denise was down Shelly and I were up when I was up they were down and it's just been the whole ebb and flow and we've all been we've always said we are the sum of the parts just like the body of Christ we we know that we are better when we are helping each other sharpen and so the joy of life and I'll tell you it's we we said this and it's not a joke we said this just last week when we were driving together we were saying I think it was Denise she was maybe just gotten off the phone with her husband and she made the comment I can't imagine ever doing this without y'all y'all bring me so much joy and happiness we have so much fun together we're friends we're true sisters in Christ we love God we love people and we love singing about a message that matters and I think that's what keeps the joy going and the joy looks different you know it it looks different but it's always joy and because we know where joy comes from it's not that momentary of happiness it's real joy but we we I don't want to do it without Shelly and Denise I really don't I want I don't want to do it without the tangible of who they are and we would all agree that God has allowed us to do it together because he knows we he knows the desire of our hearts he knows we love traveling together singing together and worshiping with people that want to enter in and hopefully just you know still encourage the body of Christ we have never claimed to be Bible scholars or great teachers but we if God says be obedient we want to be obedient okay well what does that look like we'll we'll go here I'll send you here okay well we'll go so as long as the phone's ringing people want to come point of grace will always be around we've said that well Lee let me ask you about that music is such a powerful force for worship and for praise but also for healing what kind of feedback do you get from people after this this career that you've all had and many albums out many people exposed to your music what kind of things have people said to you about your music in their life sure yeah the common denominator whether it's going through a divorce or experiencing the loss of a child or the common denominator is when I picked up your cd or when I listened to your record it it just brought me joy or it brought me peace or it brought me comfort we hear stories like that all the time and we we're never you know we just we know where that comes from I mean we're fully aware of where that comes from but music is such a softening tool of the heart and we have a song called directions home that we've we recorded a few years ago and and again the irony of when we record these songs a lot of the people don't know we've shit we choose them the songs that we choose a lot of times because we're going through that situation and it ministered to us and so we've we have said that one of the assets of point of grace is we're not big songwriters but we choose songs from great songwriters that there are the meat and potatoes of somebody's the depth of somebody's life and and oftentimes we're just we're all experiencing life you know we're we all experience disappointment we all experience joy we all experience but what season will it hit you what season will it hit me and through the years it never fails that our music is a softening tool for god to just begin to work you know and and it and that's the thing about music it doesn't necessarily change the circumstance but it softens your heart to maybe hear his voice of of reassurance play i love what you say it's just like music it softens the heart because i think so many of us we can attest to that while we're listening to a song we're going through a valley we're going through a storm and god will use that to break up the things in our heart and bring us to a place of healing and can you talk to us about the inspiration behind your new project turn your eyes well we um we finally sat in a studio room with our favorite singer songwriter her name is Cindy Morgan and it was a dream a dream of ours for years to work with Cindy because she was all that she was just she's amazing and she was a christian ccm artist she came up the ranks during the 90s with us and phenomenal and still is a phenomenal artist and she we've often said that she reads our mail and what that means is is she gets who we are and she understands the seasons of life and she understands point of grace's legacy so when it was time for us to sit and figure out okay what do we want this record to be we wanted it to be where we walk where we are and for us we wanted some of the new some of the old some of the borrowed some of the blue we wanted hymns that we that are foundational for us that that are those musical based that basic equipment musically that um we grew up listening to and then we wanted what is what's been happening in the church recently we wanted some worship we wanted that praise and worship and then we wanted to still put that original piece that point of grace is known for and we wrote a song called at the table and so it's it's very eclectic which is what we are right now musically we listen to a little bit of everything and because we are more than just one type of music you know and so this record when we sat down and just tried to figure out well what what where where do we want what what message do we want to say in the title that kind of encompasses and it was that beautiful hand turn your eyes um like i said earlier we have lived a lot of life we're still young enough that we can appreciate um like i've got a 10 year old so i'm still on the baseball field but yet we're old enough that we're watching our kids find their spouse and figure out their occupation and again watching our parents grow older and so it was that message of we're not careful everything around us is just going to be so chaotic but if we protect and keep our eyes channeled upward the rest of the world it will fall into place and pass that story down pass that story down to our audience and to our kids and to those that we have influence around our neighborhood and because life will be tough sometimes and am i going to look down or am i going to look up for me i choose to look up because that has brought me the most comfort Lee i love that so much it's so important we have to make that choice every day what you're saying is are we going to look down are we going to look up and fix our eyes on our career thank you so much for sharing your heart with us today it's been an absolute joy love being with you and right now we're going to take a look at point of grace's new music video turn your eyes take a look turn your eyes on jesus look full and his wonderful face and the things of earth will go strangely dim in the light of his glory and grace we have a scripture that mentions who really created us isn't the proverbs 20 and 12 the lord has made both these things ears to hear and eyes to see now we both we know they're they're blessings to be able to see and hear we know that those are things that god has given us these senses to experience things but we experience way too many things that are not godly through our eyes and ears or that are not the way god would want the world to be you know we live in a world that's fallen and we hear things and see things that are not encouraging and not uh what god would have us or god would have the world be but when we turn those eyes and ears on his glory on his voice we hear a different thing and how's this verse and how's what we've been talking about speak to you right well as tom said we all know it's a blessing just to have the physical senses of being able to see and being able to hear but for those of us who believe in christ and who have the holy spirit working in us how blessed we are to be able to have spiritual eyes and spiritual ears so no matter what the world looks like around us no matter what we're seeing no matter what we're hearing we can fix our eyes on jesus we can see with his eyes what he sees we can grasp his vision for our lives and for the circumstances that we're going through and then when we use our spiritual ears and we listen for his still small voice how blessed we are to be strengthened by the grace and the joy and the peace of christ you know anna when you're speaking just reminds me of the other scripture says faith comes by hearing and hearing the word of god and i think what oftentimes that we need to recognize is god wants to communicate with us god wants to speak with us he wants to give us wisdom and he wants to give us revelation and that comes even when there's storms even things like we know and i think we say this over and over again here on hope today but we know the world is growing darker and it's going to continue to get dark but we know that we have a father in heaven that through jesus christ and through the power of the holy spirit that there has been moments in my lives where there's storms are raging around me and all i do is i just get quiet and i get still before the lord i sit in my prayer closet and i don't move until god you're gonna speak to me that god you're gonna show something to me god you're gonna just help me to see what you're doing in the midst of it and we just encourage that for you today that that's what god wants to do he wants to be in a relationship where he reveals his revelation to you so that you hold on to that wisdom you hold on to that word of truth so you can walk through the day or you see what's happening on the news and then you know what that we can go out and say and encourage someone else you know the greatest thing is that we have is christ that he laid his life down for us that he died and rose again and it's not something we just hoard for ourselves but it's something that we give a way that we share the good news of the gospel to a loss a dying and a hurting world so we just want to encourage you today you know maybe if you are walking through a whole hard time you know we're always available we have our prayer line at 888-665-4483 but also go share the goodness of his grace to somebody who desperately needs it in our world today yes the point of grace god's unmerited favor poured out on you the apostle paul had a thorn in his flesh and he pleaded with the lord three times to take it away and god said to him my grace is sufficient for you for in your weakness my power is made perfect today friend god's power is made perfect in your weakness so hold fast to him lift up your eyes on him and everything else will fall in place have a good one on tomorrow's hope today do you ever feel like you're missing something in your spiritual life worship leader and author 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