 Well, what comes into your mind when you hear the name Africa? Opportunity. I think the word is opportunity. This is, it's so vast. Africa is vast. It's so untapped. There's so much things to do in all sectors. I think with passion, people, young people especially, can do just about anything in this continent. How are you all doing? It's a favorite village by Mr. Ghana, baby. Right here in Luanda, Angola. Today is my last day, but I just want to ask you a question. Have you guys ever been to Maputo? Because I feel like this city, Luanda, it's more like a replica of Maputo because I have been to Maputo and I know what I'm saying. Let me know in the comment section if you can see the similarities between Luanda and Maputo. Do you know that Angola got a youthful population? And it's so exciting to see that the youth are taking control of their own narrative. The youth are rebuilding their own country because this country has been through a lot. I mean, after being here for the past 10 days, it's exciting to see that it's actually the youth that are building the country. I'm here to introduce you a young man who is rebuilding the country by changing the narrative. My brother, how are you? I'm good. Good to see you. You look so young, man. I was just telling them that it's exciting to see that young people from Angola are rebuilding their country. How does that make you feel? Look, it makes me feel good. Angola is a young country, fast-growing country. And being part of this change is definitely a humbling experience. Can we answer? Welcome, welcome. Thank you. Oh, wow. Hola. Yeah. That's all I know. That's all you know. I'll teach you some more Portuguese. Yeah, welcome. So your office is upstairs? Yeah, office upstairs, 11th floor. Small office, but we have a small team with social media these days. We don't need such a big team, but we definitely make a big impact that that's what's important, especially for the consulting side, for the real estate agency, but for the Airbnb model business that we have, we have other offices. Some of our workers stay with Wilson, over there at his office. How does it make an impact to you? Look, it's changing people's lives. It's creating jobs. This is definitely what impact is. Luckily, we're doing that. Even if it's at a small scale, we can see the drastic changes that we make in people's lives. We had employees who started with us then branched out to oil and gas companies. They grew, which is something that I am. This is what I work for, to see other people. Rise. You know what? I would love to talk to you more because your accent shows that you used to be based in America. Yeah, yeah, I actually did. I used to live in Michigan. For how long? I stayed 16 years, approximately 16 years, yeah. I've been back now 10, 11 years. What took you to America in the first place? Well, my father decided to take me at the time and Golo was going through a civil war. Not exactly when I left, but before in stability as well. Good education at the time. It was a no-brainer for me to go. My father decided. And 16 years later, he decided to come back? Yeah, come back to the motherland. Why would you do that? Look, I think the impact we can make here as young entrepreneurs with vision is far greater than what I could have done there just because of competition. And it's your own country, so why not? The question should be, why not? Do you regret coming back? Not at all. Not at all. If the way the world is shifting now, everything is looking towards Africa. So it was probably a visionary decision that we took. Well, what comes into your mind when you hear the name Africa? So when I hear the name Africa, what comes to mind is opportunity. I think the word is opportunity. This is, it's so vast. Africa is vast. It's so untapped. There's so much things to do in all sectors. I think with passion, people, young people especially, can do just about anything in this continent. See, as a young guy like you, you're living in America. I mean, that is one of the places that I think most of us wanna go to go live our best life. You had everything in America, but you chose to come back where I'm from. We normally ask, is everything okay with you? Are you mad? Yeah. Yeah. No, it's like I was saying before. It's actually vision. Every country has had people who rebuilt it. And why not us? Why not young people like us that can start taking these steps to rebuild it? The US had the founding fathers that rebuilt America. We can have these same people here and it can start with us. America is America today because of the pioneers who had the same foundation for their country. And in those countries, they love their country very much. So because they love their country very much, that has really helped them to deserve to be where they are today. We just have to be bold and strong and go for it. I think there are so many young people that are living in the dust, but I watch this YouTube channel. If you have a message, what would that message be? Look, the message would be learn as much as possible in whatever you're doing there and what you're studying. But know that you have a home and that needs rebuilding and Africa will welcome you. We have a lot of opportunities here. I think that if we come together as a people, we can definitely make this continent a better place. Wow. I love the fact that you keep on talking about opportunities, opportunities, opportunities. I mean, what are the kind of opportunities that you think the young Africans living in the diaspora who are looking for where to come back here perhaps whilst they are here? Today, technology, technology is something we need and in large scale. I think this is an opportunity for young programmers, people that are in tech can bring back and contribute. Real estate as well. This is the sector I'm in. This is definitely a place where people can contribute. And health, you know, health, definitely, I think it's probably number one. Yeah, I think so. He'll chop. No, no, no, no, don't worry. No, I want to know more about you and what you're doing in Hong Kong. Okay. Welcome to my office. Oh, I need to lock my cover guy out. Yeah. Oh, wow. Very beautiful office, man. Thank you, thank you. So I really want to know more about you and what you're doing in Angola to change lives and the people in here. Okay. So what we're doing is we're creating opportunities. We're creating jobs through our real estate agency called Clareza Real and through new projects like Stadiage, which is Angola's first short stay model, like Airbnb, creating jobs and impacting young people's lives here through these projects. Is this an app? Yeah, this is an app that you can download on iOS and Android. Our official launch will be in November. Okay. We're doing tests now, but we definitely think that it'll be a game changer for Angola. You, next time you come, you could book from your home from Ghana, which is something that I think we all need. That's amazing. How long have you been back? I've been back 12 years now. 12 years I've been back and used to work in banking sector and then went to the oil and gas sector and then decided just to follow the entrepreneurial path. It's, I just had a bug. I just had something in me that decided to go for it. I've always liked challenges as well. How has the challenge been so far? Look, it's not easy, but if it's too easy, everybody would do it. And I like it. The biggest challenge I think we surpassed that. It was acceptance from the old school, from the older guys, like who is this kid coming in in the sector that's usually, you know, for people that have large years of experience and gaining that trust was the biggest challenge, I think. But luckily through persistence and ethics and just being responsible and delivering on what you promise, I think that's what allowed us to, you know, pass through that barrier and establish a name for ourselves. How is the brand doing so far? The brand is doing well, a good social media presence. Clares Achial, as an agency, it's doing very, very well. We would like the economy to be in a better space, but these are steps that, you know, we are all taking to guarantee that, you know, Angola, you know, follows the right direction in that sense. I heard Angola's real estate is extremely expensive. Yeah. I don't know if it's still one of the most expensive in the world. I know it was at one point, but cost of construction is high. We do not produce most of the, you know, materials, components that are needed for the real estate sector for construction. So this is the main driving force. Inflation as well is a big problem. These are some of the reasons that, you know, real estate is expensive here. You know, I'm here, and I believe that after people seeing how beautiful Angola is, they would love to move to Angola. For sure. And I know and believe that when they see who it's you, they trust me. So now they're gonna trust you. So they're definitely gonna come to you. For sure. But I wanted to know the most expensive unit that you guys got in here. Well, the most expensive now is $4 million. What do you mean? $4 million? Yeah. How many bedrooms is that? It's a five bedroom house. Oh, okay. Five bedroom house. The least expensive one is $25,000, which is a property in Kilamba, which is, I don't know if you heard of it. That's what I leave. Oh, you're staying in Kilamba. I'm staying in Kilamba. So, okay, you see, I'm an affordable guy. Yeah, so, you know. But with a $4 million, what's the location? So the location is Talatona, which is an urban area in South Luanda. And that's where we have that property for sale. These are one of the properties that we're currently selling. We have apartments here. Two bedroom, three bedroom, four bedroom apartments with a stunning view of the marginal. Yeah. It's beautiful, man. Yeah, this is nice. I want to tell you, you need to have money to live in here. I mean, anytime you see swimming pool, you know, it's expensive. No, but this time they gave you a swimming pool and they gave you a view of the ocean, plus the city. Right, yeah. I want to buy one. Three bedroom. I can lend you $1.5 million. $1.5 million. Welcome to Angola, baby. But one thing that I really wanted you to tell me more about is the app that you guys have. Yeah, so the app that we created, Stadia, is an Airbnb model for Angola. This concept came because there was a lot of requests from clients that wanted to book short stays and these requests just kept coming and I decided to create something innovative and Stadia's was the solution. Airbnb does exist here, but you have to pay in euros or dollars to stay in your own country. So I thought that it was a no-brainer to create something like this. So which means this time you're gonna pay in... Kwanzaa, you can pay in Kwanzaa. You can also pay in dollars with your master car and visa. Soon we'll have that option and through some payment wallets that we have here, like PayPay, which is the most famous one right now in the market. And it's made in Angola by Angola? Yes, exactly, yeah. If you had a chance to change one thing in Angola, what would it be? Well, in real estate, I would definitely invest in affordable housing because the type of real estate we have is only for the 3% and my overall goal is to build affordable housing for the majority of the people of Angola. So that's my dream. How do you intend to do that? Well, hard work, persistence and one day God willing, I think it's definitely possible. You've been in Angola for 11 years right now. Will you say it's worth it? It's definitely worth it. Challenging, very challenging, ups and downs. But, you know, we have an expression here in Portuguese that is Who runs with passion doesn't get tired. You know, so that's... The passion will lead you there. There, exactly. That's amazing. Where do people find you? Well, our Instagram page, Clareza Rial, Stadiesh, also on Instagram, our website, clarezariial.com. That's where people can find me. I wanna say thank you so much for talking to me. It's a pleasure meeting you. Yeah, pleasure. And definitely we're gonna do business together. Thank you. But you don't think somebody needs to bring you up to Ghana to other part of Africa? For sure. We definitely love to visit. I actually wanna visit Lagos and Accra as well. Welcome. And you will be the guy. All right, it's a pleasure, man. Yeah, thank you.