 He writes so many songs for so many different people, though his fingerprints are on everything, aren't they? But I don't know what you're on about, it's got the house of Westloth feel to it. It's just without the key change, but anyway, there you go. Right, okay, that's about my pay scale, now you talk about key changes. All right, Lee, have a great weekend. You too, all right. All right, bye-bye. It is the Ninetal Noon Show this Friday morning. Let's get a news update at nine o'clock and say good morning to Michaela Clark. Thanks, Greg. Good morning. The funeral of 59-year-old Hugh Kelly, a victim of the Creaselot tragedy, will take place this morning. He will be laid to rest following funeral mass at St. Michael's Church Creaselot, one week on from the explosion that claimed the lives of 10 people. The last funeral that of father and daughter Robert Garway and Shauna Flanagan Garway will take place tomorrow morning at St. Michael's Church. Emergency services are currently at the scene of what Gardie have described as a serious crash on the Carrigarty-Cranford Road. Motorists are advised to seek alternative routes. No further details are known at this time. Nearly 20,000 children have been languishing on hospital waiting lists for over a year and a half. 860 of those are waiting on an outpatient appointment at Letter Kenney University Hospital. A total of 2,201 children and 16,942 adults are waiting on outpatient appointment at the hospital, according to latest figures from the National Treatment Purchase Fund. Health Minister Stephen Donnelly says the COVID pandemic continues to have an impact on hospital care. Dr Dennis McCauley from the Irish Medical Organization says the problem has been ongoing for years. I think these figures don't surprise general practitioners and doctors generally. This was a situation that was present before COVID. The COVID crisis have made this worse, but it has been representative of underfunding of the hospital-based system for many decades and we are living with this on a day-to-day basis. The EPA has raised concerns that the use of pesticides in Donegal may be impacting water quality. The water quality of the Kinties River has been fine to be good or moderate. However, the catchment of Donna Moville recorded one of the lowest percentage of satisfactory river water bodies in the country. The latest report from the EPA has highlighted concerns that cheap dipping may be contributing to water quality. Tom Douglas reports. Concerns about the general decline in water quality and the overall ecological condition of some rivers in County Donegal highlighted a need to increase the number of chemical monitoring stations in the region. Some of the biological assessments indicated moderate or poor to bad quality conditions. A toxic chemical effect was suspected in some cases as the number of macroinvertebrate species was so low. The EPA says with Donegal having the largest population of sheep in the country and forestry covering 11% of its land area, it is suspected a possible cause for the decline in river macroinvertebrates could be from pesticides from sheep dipping or forestry activity. Widespread detection of cypermethrin was observed, particularly in the south west and the north of Donegal. The EPA has recommended a national cross-agency forum be set up to focus on the appropriate management of spent sheep dip to prevent environmental pollution. Weather night cloudy this morning, with outbreaks of shiery rain, temperatures today off 10 or 11 degrees. That's all from Highland Radio News for now. We'll be back with news again at 10 o'clock. Until then, good morning. And now, it's time for the talk of the Northwest, the Ninth and Noon Show with Greg Hughes on Highland Radio News. And a very good morning, too. You're welcome along to the Ninth and Noon Show for this Friday. It is the 14th of October, 2022, and it's four minutes past nine. Thank you for spending your morning with us. Hopefully, you'll stick around. You can WhatsApp and text the program, of course, on 086, 6025,000, 086, 6025,000, or give us a call on 07491, 25,000. And comments come into us at commentsathighlandradio.com. And if you want to watch the program today, every day, go to our website, highlandradio.com, click the Watch Live button there. We'll hop on YouTube, Highland Radio Ireland, or across our Facebook pages. Okay. We are joined now very shortly by our Friday panel, and we'll say good morning for us to Breed Corrin, who is a solicitor, Breed. Thanks for joining us. Good morning to you. Good morning, Greg. And we also are joined on the program by John McAteer, editor of the Chicano Tribune. John, thank you very much for joining us. Good morning, Greg. How are you? I'm okay, John. And I can sense from the tone of both you and Breed that we're all in the same space, really, I think, the week that we've put in here. And, you know, reading through your paper, I'll start with you, John, if that's all right, Breed. Reading through your paper yesterday, it hits journalism, but it was also an outpouring of, you know, your emotion, but the community's emotion. Yeah, where I'm coming from, it was, it was like, it was trying to put everything into words and some beautiful words chosen as well, by the way, John, but a difficult paper to put together, I suppose, to... Oh, absolutely. Probably one of our most, maybe our most difficult paper, given the magnitude of the tragedy, the suddenness of it, and the impact that it had on the community and how it has just run a knife deeply into the heartbeat that is the creasile community. The families left absolutely and totally devastated. And you're almost scared of what you're writing and that you might offend somebody, but you're working to immense deadlines. There was days where we were working 22 hours. I think since over the five days, most of us clocked up 100 hours. We had to do something that was going to be totally respectful and that the people of Creasley can look back on years from now and say, look, that gave us some hope. And it gave us some inspiration. And I suppose we have never come across anything like this here. Most communities would be absolutely and totally devastated. And so was Creasley. The raw, deep wounds, the hurt, the jangled, the jangled thinking of whether it's day or night or does time matter at all? Time stood still at 24 minutes past three when the emergency bells went off across the county and six units of the Donegal fire service and all the emergency services declined and just landed in there to help the local communities. It's been a very moving and very humbling experience. It's been a very powerful outpouring of grief. And I would simply say that everybody has done Creasley proud. And you observe the grief was just intermelting their history at the funeral of Leona, beautiful 14-year-old girl. The coming together of the community, the family circle, but beyond that, Leona's pals down at Mulroy College and large numbers there from the letter of Kenny, rugby club, very, very inspiring. The president has been totally inspiring. So has the local church. It's been unbelievable. And as I say, I'm sure you've been there yourself. There's been more vigils. There's been so, so much good going on there. People have poured their hearts out and they've wrapped their arms around those bereaved and they will continue to do so because they will have to. But they do things like this in Creasley because they have an inspirational leader there and Father John Joe Duffy, Father Martin Doohan was absent at the beginning of the week. He hurriedly got back again. Bishop Alan McGuffin has been an absolute tire of strength. Bishop Forster, the Church of Ireland Bishop, Reverend David Skews, the Church of Ireland rector Vanna and Susan Merz who's the presbyterian rector and Kerry Key, all of that fed into it. And overall, you know, 10 deaths, 10 funerals. It's absolutely beyond grief almost, but the people have borne up very, very well. And they have somebody said to me yesterday, what do you see in Creasley more than anything else? Courage. The people's silent grief in the public glare of the media is never going to be easy. Coping with all of that publicity, coping with it and indeed trying to remain aloof from it because everybody's grief is personal. There's been seven funerals so far. All seven have been very private. They've all had their own ethos of spirituality and indeed the little things that matter most of them in personal life. That has been absolutely heartbreaking because there's been oceans of tears and heartbreak and it's going to take time. As I said earlier on there, time stood still and as we measure time, it doesn't happen in a community that is so bereft. And anyone who's suffered a bereavement, when I say everyone, I mean everyone deals with things somewhat differently, but there is the period of the loss and the nature of this loss kind of changes things to some extent, but then you have the preparation, you have the wake and your communities with you and around you and then you have the funeral and then there's that period afterwards. Now no one is going away in terms of community supports and what have you, but there's then a lot of time where you're on your own and that's when you really sort of start working through it really and I think maybe that's when in real terms the clock almost starts in terms of if time heals, well when's that going to start happening? Well, small things will have to start happening next week. The bereave families will finally get space to breathe in private to go bring fresh flowers to their graves to remember to pray to kneel down and go home and talk about it and the community is there as part of that with them, but they'll be doing so in a very private manner now that we have all departed from the scene and the cameras and the lights are gone. Donegall County Council will be holding an important meeting on Tuesday to sympathize because the council has played a huge role in the whole operation and increasingly from the moment it happened probably up to 75 men from Donegall County Council hundreds of voluntary workers, hundreds of, I mean the best effort of Donegall put its foot forward last Friday evening. The heroic work of those first people from the community who raised to that scene because the reality is that crazy like most other rural villages might seem close but it isn't in the event of a massive emergency like that. The emergency services, fire services are at least half an hour away at best. In the meantime that vacuum is heroically filled and was filled by hundreds, by dozens of people, maybe a hundred people. Effectively a human train. Stay where you are, Donegall. We'll talk specifically about the response I think but I just want to read your initial reflections. John has captured it perfectly. I think the whole country has been ambushed by the grief of Creechla. I live in North Galway, work in Raskamun and it was all anybody was talking about this week. Just to go back to the point that John was making about time I was listening to the radio, I think it was Father Brian Darcy always absolutely fantastic and always puts his finger on it. He said time does heal but it doesn't take the pain away. What it does is it makes you walk well with a limp and I think that's exactly what Creechla will do for a long time. It will limp along and those supports need to be there and the government needs to step up to the plate now and the county council needs to step up to the plate and put those supports in place for the people of Creechla. The one person that struck me during the week was Father John Joe Duffy. Has the man slept since last Friday? I don't think so. And yet he comes out day after day and delivers very, very thoughtful heartfelt sermons that obviously supports that community in Creechla that is absolutely devastated. I think, Breed, on that point if you don't mind on Friday, just in the future hours after it happened he was there and I was conscious as well too that these are friends and people he knows as well. Do you know, so it's not like there's a parking if a motion. The other thing about it is at the end of the day I go home to my partner, to my husband. You know, you go home to a family. Father John Joe, I don't know anything about the man. Does he live on his own in a program house? He goes into a house and closes over a door and he's there left alone with all that that he's to deal with himself. And I'm hoping that his bishop and his fellow priests support him and all that. And it just goes to show, you know, I mean in this country we've had a very, very checkered history with regards to priests and the Catholic Church. But when something like this happens it just goes to show the importance of faith for a small rural community and the importance of a man like John Joe Duffy obviously is at the heart of the community. And I hope that he is supported. Yeah, Breed. And when I've allowed myself to think about it because sometimes, you know, if you... Yes. You know what I'm on about? Like if you were to sort of really think what families are going through you wonder could you pull yourself out of that? Could you get up in the morning? Yeah, but even any of these four days of funerals we're heading into four days of funerals it's unbelievable. But it's the ripples of it like say for instance Leona's funeral yesterday obviously you've got the family's grief her mum and dad they're having to say goodbye to their little gem. But it was then her school friends and peers that had to step up and stood up and readings and bringing stuff up and just the impact on them and then their moms or dads okay givers then have to help them try and process that and then you've got the situation in the school because it's the ripples of it. You know what I mean? These people are so important to us. Grief has tentacles that just extend out beyond those who are immediately impacted. And I also feel for those who had witnessed the initial scenes and the trauma that that will have with them and stay with them. It's just been a shocking week. Paddy Rooney is with us as well. Friends of letter Kenny University Hospital. Paddy, your comments on what we've been going through this last week also as a community. Well I was on your program this time last week and we were talking about very different things. Do you remember about the budget and the budget and so on and so forth. And just a few short days later, seven days later then we're in a very different place and something of that magnitude, you know it puts things into perspective. And I think it was the comments of a homily I think given by Bishop Alan Gocchina in the middle of it all in one of the days that he was saying mass one of the funeral masses and he was saying about how fickle that life is you know people that pulled up outside the shop and they went into the shop and they never came out again. And I suppose it should help us to concentrate on what's important and what isn't important. I mean he mentioned about how fickle life just to the flick of the switch you know 10 people lost their lives many more injured in the hospital with serious injury and all of the families are dramatically affected by it and the community. And it's incredible too that the world has now become a very small place. I mean there was condolences from the Pope the King of England the British Prime Minister the leader of the DUP at the DUP conference and if we ever want to know how small the world has become I think this is it was incredible that the community of Creighton which I know very very well because my in-laws come from Carygarde just down the road from it and they know it very well and they know the shop very well and it's incredible you know the impact that the community has. Now all of the you know the attention of the song priests at the moment next week and the week after and as time passes by Greg that attention will diminish and eventually disappear and the community will be left with their own grief. We talk every so often you know about the gradual demise of the role of the Catholic Church and in fact I suppose participation in participation I suppose in religion generally and what would the community in Creighton would be without if they didn't have Father John Joe Duffy and Reverend David Scuse too plus the wider clergy you know Father Charlie Bourne and Carygarde and other clergy I mean there's been a huge comfort to the local community and what would the community be like if they didn't have that and we're losing that because we see a lot of the churches around Donegal the congregation are very very small and there's a problem now getting priests and you know serve the community and that's going to be a huge pity because people do need spiritual assistance and they're particularly needed in some kind of on occasions like this I mean I was trying to think when was there something of this magnitude visitors on Donegal before I mean the car accident in in a show about six or seven years ago when there was seven young fellas killed in one accident and then it's a good part of 40 years ago now since we had a fire in the central hotel in Bondorn many people were killed as a result of that a tragedy of this magnitude is rare thankfully but when it does the community needs to respond the government needs to respond I suppose the people who provide spiritual support need to respond and the community themselves I suppose needs to get around the needs to get around the community itself of the people that have been affected I mean it's just generally awful Greg to actually compliment you yourself I know you must have been very near when the tragedy happened because you were on the scene very very quickly and you know a lot of people that were looking for information and there weren't being nosy or anything like that but they wanted to know was there anybody that they know had been caught up in this and had been killed or severely injured and you were given by a blow by blow account I know you weren't allowed inside the court and all that but a lot of our public representatives and others who did attend I mean you gave you know you gave a very good courage and of course that is the value again of local media and local radio so well done to yourself and the radio Thanks for that Paddy John we're talking about the emergency services and what was evident on Friday, overnight Friday and Saturday it was a mix of you know machinery operators of the community working with the emergency services but looking at the faces of those that were leaving the initial scene as they walked down to the coffee pod there where tea and sandwiches and sausages and chicken goujons and everything just appeared you know what I mean it was amazing what happened but as they walked down to refill to get some sustenance before they headed back up again these are just regular people the first responders from the ambulance this was an explosion it seems in apartments behind the service station but this is a space full of flammable liquids you're not supposed to light a cigarette near a petrol pump yet we have these people going into this space to try and rescue people with their hands all of that and we'll all talk about that but that was just unbelievable what they did and as you mentioned already that human chain of locals that turned up to begin with to start by hand claw through it was just a remarkable response by the locals initially and the emergency services right across the board this is actually would have been the community at the very heart of its foundations and this would be the community the dozens of them maybe up to a hundred racing there in response some of them getting there within maybe 60 seconds to two minutes the expertise of the local building contractors who's very much respect and varied they brought their own skills to it lots of them were first responders they did know what they were doing but others were just totally inspired to be with them and to just agree to do what was required there were numbers of cars on the four court trashed nobody was quite certain at the early stages who was in those cars thankfully there wasn't anybody in them but how were they to know we would never get beyond that early response and how they how they reacted and this is the sense of community it's a very powerful very very potent community and this is what will you finally pull them through at the end of the day because they will redouble their efforts in different directions they get the funerals over they get over the weekend they recover some of their energies the enthusiasm and the urgency within the community to rebuild and probably over the weekend the original building will be taken down the equipment has moved in there on site and we expect that to happen we expect the road to be reopened the N56 is a hugely busy road that has been a very difficult week for everybody trying to get into Kreisler and to get back out again but you know we didn't complain about that all of those things were necessary and essential come next week as I said there's going to be a special council meeting and that will be treated very very with great respect and it'll be a special tribute to the people of Kreisler and the council John McLaughlin and he is the executive director and they will reach out to Kreisler and they will be guided by the views and the opinions of the people that will not be intrusive but the community itself will begin moving ahead remember that the community hub that was the shop that was the post office that was the filling station and the takeaway and the deli and all of that they will have to start putting that back again that probably will start happening next week and people will once again have a cause to drop into Kreisler and this is originally needed as part of that whole process of as part of the grieving process because you're going to meet people you give them hugs, shake hands with them and they will respond likewise and this is what strong community life is about and I'll just go back to Gerard McFadden his father Ben McFadden was the light and the soul and the life of the leadership of that community and that has been taken up now by others and we look forward to the Kreisler view and all that entails Gerard Buffy and his team they have that responsibility now this is going to be their 22nd Kreisler view and this is a very cherished annual magazine it's a bit like the letter Kenny annual they have the honourous task now of basically wiping the slate they would have that magazine almost completed but this is a big thing in community life it's the small things that build up into a huge response and Kreisler is to be congratulated that they have that community spirit and you know as Paddy was referring there to the church and numbers falling away John Joe Duffy came there numbers have not fallen away throughout the pandemic and throughout all that thing John Joe was down there at the very heart of the community and I was I'm always inspired by Father John Joe Duffy but no more so than in the past 5, 6, 7 days also inspired with the response from the Bishop absolutely tremendous work all of the clergy all of them Paddy I think you asked a question what would we do without them we would be totally bereft and we just couldn't get on without them maybe that spirit of renewal which is part of the Kreisler community might extend itself a bit further I mean the days of large crowds and priests to cover every church is gone that's not going to come back we have to accept that but we have to accept that you know the inspiration and you can see it in people's faces as you watch them the church is there and reaching out to the clergy in the morning you see that the funerals and there probably will be a renewal of faith and the church will have a very important role maybe more important than we realize but they will do that very quietly and probably late in the evening and they will talk to people the counselling service we must talk about Paddy you would know more about this than me all of the counselling service have been made available there and they are so essential at the moment because so many people are very animated they are shocked at what they actually did themselves now when they think about and look back that they raced into the danger zone without even knowing it but congratulations to them they did extremely well Brie, we spoke to well I've spoke to a number of people directly involved with this response you know medical professionals and such was the impact on them and then you know even seeing the emotion on different people's faces but one of them said to me I think she said it on air so it's all right me quoting directly that this has restored their faith in humanity, the response for people, hardened people in the emergency services to say that this has restored my faith in one case it was in the emergency services such was the cross-border response multi-agency response literally helicopters to spare to mean if they were required ICUs you know just the way everything came together I can understand how they would be so moved to make a statement like that that this has restored their faith in society in the system I suppose after two years of COVID lockdowns and pandemics and people being angry and cross and frustrated with everything then when you see the response and as you've touched on there the cross-border response was the one that most was Northern Ireland giving as much as they could to their neighbours absolutely wonderful response just in relation to father John Jodofi I don't know him at all and John obviously does know him and Paddy obviously knows him just I was so impressed with him all week and then to have the fortitude to be interviewed and to hold coherent thoughts when he obviously has not slept since last Friday the man is the saint he has an absolute he has an absolute saint you have to know father John Jodofi he's right down there at the level of the youngest child he has appealed to the people it's absolutely inspiring it's absolutely immense last Sunday with the bishop and a few others having a cup of tea at one o'clock he was taking a phone call and you could hear this cross-conversation where is Ballymont? Is it in Donegal? this was TV3 looking for him to be in Dublin for seven o'clock the next morning he did the interview live from Kreislup which was all the richer for that but father John Jodofi is there that he will not turn down any request he has a huge understanding with the media but he's plugged into the community as well it's beyond it's beyond the religious relationship he understands the hardship it's also the fact that father John Jodofi has been involved in so many different campaigns the community hospitals all this kind of thing my first contact with father John Jodofi is back many years ago he remembered better than I do we were attending a rally in letter Kenny from education had a plan believe it or not to amalgamate many of the non-catholic church of Ireland Presbyterian schools particularly up in the Glences area and they're a small community father John Jodofi got stuck in there lobbied every politician in the country and that was how I got him with father John Jodofi he's been involved in every single campaign let it be the fishing port and killy bags let it be going to lobby politicians doesn't pull his punches either absolutely not I mean he is he is a true Christian leader and I mean he has to be admired close up he's a very he's such a very personal he has a huge understanding of the media and the needs of the media and the media and Chrysler have been very respectful there is no doubt about it they have brought the wider picture when you see your main news across your main platforms being broadcast live from the main street in Chrysler you're sitting in your living room and you could literally reach out and touch Ray Kennedy it's this kind of thing that people just people get very animated about that they feel there's a bit of intrusiveness but there isn't really the media has a job to do I think there are sections for the most part I think you're correct I think there is and you know media people can be media people can be really quite sensitive sometimes and there's an irony to that considering what they're covering like overall the whole management and handling of the situation in Chrysler just to say Paddy you probably know this one of the diversions was down Dunn-Tally on the way in from Carragart and a very very dangerous wee road to see local men with the high vest jackets in them all day on Sunday and I just want to extend a word of congratulations to them extend congratulations to the guard who played a heroic role in terms of keeping two ways of going where possible John McLaughlin of the council Gary Martin who's in charge of the emergency response from the council you could name Joe McTiger the fire officer Michael Scott and people like that and there are hundreds of people there the General Hospital were totally I want to bring Paddy in on that because I want it to and we'll invite you and breed back in again because this is when a call goes out like this I presume Paddy everyone's at work everyone's got a job to do it's an acute hospital you know you're going to get calls sometimes you know you're going to have to deal with stuff but such was the scale of this and the localness of this as well I mean we had people on site there doctors nurses other staff who were going to be very closely connected to this as well and yet their professionalism of course shone through and speaking to families of the bereaved those that I've spoken to have nothing but positive words of how they were handled you know a waiting room that they'd been put into with the respect that they were being treated with all sort of in a can you talk a little bit about that just as someone involved with the friends of Paddy County Hospital but also having previously been I spent 16 years about in a senior managerial role in the hospital and I think it was only three times in that period of time for the major instance was either on was activated actually and the hospital it's an unusual experience with the hospital just like flipping a pancake turns into different mode very very quickly and if the plan is activated during the day lots of staff are around so you don't need to call in as many staff or if it happens out of ours there isn't the same numbers of staff there and a call has to go out for help and it's incredible on the three occasions that we've ever do that they will come in their hordes in fact I think Sean Murphy said on the radio that they had to ask people to stay back just in case that because they didn't know what they were going to be magnitude of what they were going to be dealing with and there's no point having all the staff in now because who's going to be there 12 hours time or 24 hours time or whatever I believe that one of the consultants in emergency medicine went out to the waiting room in the emergency department and told them that the hospital was a major incident standby that the explosion had taken place and they were expecting casualties and for people if they could go home or go to their GP they were left so there was a great understanding by everybody and you see there are all the different departments within the hospital and every single one of them have a role to play in the major incident activation within the hospital it's like the pieces of the jigsaw in each department have their own thing to do and the whole thing locks together on the one big plan you see the other thing about the emergency services do what the emergency services do what the guard they do we see the squad cars going by with the blue lights flashing I wonder where they're going to but they're responding to emergencies not of this magnitude every day but they're responding to emergencies every day so are the ambulance so are the fire service and so are the hospital I suppose the magnitude of this and the scale of it asked everybody to ramp up and we had a call from the guard the conference the news conference was on in Milford on Sunday he said that John your crew was probably there recording this he said that they didn't actually have to put a call out to off duty guard they just came in uniform ready to do what they had to do because they knew well that there was a role to be provided very near the site and then there was a role to be provided perfectly back from the cycle traffic control and everybody that served in the vehicle that a blue light is shining on it and everyone that has a uniform they're all trained to do this luckily and happily they don't have to come across it very often but when they do it's incredible I've been in the emergency department as a lay person I've been as a clinical person in London as well but I've been in the lay person and I've seen the likes of Jerry Lane he was involved in this too as part of the volunteer response service but it's incredible how calm that they are and how forensic they are when there's apparently chaos around them but that's what they're trained to do and that's what they do Thank you all 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Where great opportunities await. Search all state and i careers today. Okay. You're welcome back to the 9 till noon show here on Highland Radio. Morning. John McAteer is so eloquent and compassionate in his words about Chrysler. I bought the Chicano Tribune for the first time last night and it's a carefully crafted and often poignant piece of journalism covering such a tragic event. Just want to praise and acknowledge Father John Joe. That man deserves all the praise that can be bestowed on him. He has went above and beyond the call of duty. Every single mass was beautiful and so heartfelt. He truly is a fantastic priest and this morning he's preparing I'm sure he's eulogy for Hugh Kelly who was fondly remembered at the vigil I attended in Downing's last weekend and Hugh will be buried later. Sorry his funeral will take place later in St Michael's Church in Chrysler at 11 a.m. and he'll be buried afterwards in Doe's Cemetery. Hi Greg that was the exact conversation I was having with friends about poor Father John Joe. The poor man had to have all them funerals. Hopefully he's getting support. Bless you Father Joe. Well I know well I don't think it's wrong for me to say but there were at least a good friend of his turned up for the weekend to support him. I won't mention any names because I don't know if that's but anyway we all know who that is. Like Father John Joe and that man are absolutely so close together and they draw great strength from each other. And it was lovely the way he held himself because he just stood kind of stood off Father John Joe's shoulder just you know what I mean just as that support and also Father John Joe mentioned at the funeral yesterday that he himself is going to engage with the council services and that's really maybe we can use this opportunity to speak to anyone who I mean some of us aren't great at you know getting help and maybe you do when the time's right for you but the services have been put in place there by the HSC. Particularly you boys are not good at talking. The girls are much better. I would love to say that's an awful stereotype but you're talking directly to me so I'm just going to have to take that one on the chin breed. Absolutely. It's good to talk. It's good to talk. And Paddy too you know a specific number of the commitment that everyone will be called back the supports will be there and it's those that are living on their own. Those who are trying to a suppose manage the emotions of their children do you know how do we do that you know but it's good to see that those services everything's been thrown at them Paddy to support people at this time. On one side of the you know the HSC comes up on your program with all its walks and faults and so on to both. But there is a side of it now that we never see and Dr Mara Fennigan who's the principal psychologist. She manages the psychology service in Coutry County she was interviewed on few of the national platforms definitely TV3 and RT and she came across very well. She manages the psychology service and she's the coordinator I believe of the psychosocial response here because when the... Paddy can I hold you just for a moment because we've been talking about Father John Joe Duffy and he's spared a little bit of his time this morning to join us. Father John Joe a very good morning to you. Greg good morning. I know you're you're very very busy and you're I'm sure preparing for Hugh Kelly's funeral this morning and it's the fourth day of funerals. I hope and I know you don't I know this is not about you and it's never it's not about you and you don't need to hear this but you're going to hear it anyway. I hope that you feel and appreciate the outpouring of love and gratitude towards you from your from your flock so to speak but the wider Donegal Northwest community the entire country you have been an amazing leader at the most impossible times so all I want for you whether you want to accept that or not is I just hope that you're feeling the support and gratitude and love towards you and what you've been going through yourself and what you've done for all of us this week. Greg I suppose little could we have imagined when you were the first to interview me at the scene as far as I can remember and you said only if I wanted to you know in fairness and you were so I come here just that kindness and compassion I think you could see the thing unfolding of I was unfolding and I was just in a state of shock at that stage as was everyone else around there but I can't but help feel carried by my family which is this community the family of which I am one off and it's just the grief that I am feeling in my heart the heartbreakingness that I am feeling and the pain that I am feeling is only a reflection of what we are experiencing in the community and we have been carried by so many people in this in this county and this morning is the first morning that I picked up a paper since this happened and they saw some journalists was saying that Dunny Gaul has been crazily has been helped by Dunny Gaul and Dunny Gaul has been helped and cared for by Ireland and and that is that is so true and it's just that we are helping each other and if our little Chrysler has become anything it has become I suppose an example of how amidst the greatest of tragedy and it is the greatest of tragedy and it's the most painful that it is and helping each other and praying for each other and I can feel the the the power permeating from the prayer the vigils the masses etc been said all around the world and and particularly those messages and I know there's so many of our people that are abroad who want to be back in Chrysler this time who are hurting so much and and are with us and I am also thinking of them and we're thinking too Greg in a very particular way of those who are in hospital and those who remain ill and come here and just just the empathy that has been shown to us the empathy from yourself at that scene you were one of the first that I knew of the journal you know we know each other and the empathy from yourself the empathy from from so many others and you have journalists come up giving you hugs and and and and the empathy shown by of course the people who were there the responders and just the work that was done by those who were the first responders it was just and it was Stella O'Malley that was writing in the paper this morning and she said out of Chrysler tragedy comes a reminder we can all help to ease the pain and we that is what is happening we're helping each other we're ministering to each other and and and the ways that we know that we can and that is through love through prayer and through support and sure there's no words for it Greg there were no words that night and there's certainly no words now and the that's that's the pathway is always going to be difficult going ahead and we're fragile you know you know this area we're surrounded by the sea and along the seashore there are rocks and rocks are strong and solid but we're not rocks we're sand and the body is fragile as we have seen and the mind is even more fragile and all of us all of us need help going forward Greg we need to be we need to be cradled by by the rest of Donegal by the rest of Ireland the rest of the world that is cradling as this time but our own communities are so important and we will get the strength from within our own community and I myself am going to go for counseling and whatever trauma counseling and helping I urge everyone who was at that scene because we experienced something and you could see that unfolding there yourself as good all others we experienced something you should not experience in your community and and people are in trauma and you know and and I urge and I I'm just urging from the bottom of my heart everyone out there who is at that scene including yourselves as journalists Greg and so many others to avail of counseling and I want to pay tribute to all the services which we have done a very particular way I want to pay tribute to the service in our own community our own doctors and the medical center first and foremost of all and all the others around about doctors and so on and centers I want to pay tribute to our own pharmacy and I come here there's so many others there's look at the people out helping at wakes now the people making food providing food the local cafes in the area the coffee part of the wild Atlantic way you know everyone has held a Huckleberry sorry Greg I've just one oh sorry I beg your pardon your line broke up on my end no no no sorry I want to pay a particular word of thanks to the coroner Dr McCauley Dennis and to the mortuary staff at letter Kenny hospital and the whole hospital that maybe we haven't even been thinking as far as letter Kenny yet you know to pay thanks to Sean Murphy and all the staff at letter Kenny hospital and all the others that we have already said thanks we still can't say thanks enough for him as many times carry on Greg sorry no I didn't mean to interrupt it's just your son dropped out on my end Father John Joe yeah in a sometimes we can get caught up in life and what's important and what's not important and our disagreements and our different views and you know we can become very internalized or selfish or whatever it might be there was a mirror sort of held up to us all I think over the last week and it's almost like there was a reset that we all kind of remembered what was important what we mean to each other why we need each other for some it will be why they need their faith you know it was something happened over the last week that put everything into perspective for so many people yeah and nobody held that mirror up more for us than at the funeral in Derrybag when little Hamish got up to speak little Hamish who is so brave such a wonderful young man who give I think it was his confirmation money he gave to Mary's meals at Christmas or Christmas money and he got up to speak about the importance of his dad you know and the importance of that relationship with his dad and and and him and his you know each and every person has been in fact a great people but I'm just holding him up this morning as a wonderful example of getting getting up to speak and reminding us of what's important and that it's family that's important that the life God has given us and the things that God have given us in this world that is so important and and we say that Greg has grown up but when a child gets up and reminds us of that he was just my inspiration at a time when I was breaking down so much myself and it was overwhelming me he together with so many others but him in particular little Hamish in particular gave me a sort of a kick up the ass sort of how should but you know to get on with it and be there for you know and and just his strength and you know he probably as we know in shock still you know as well and the sadness must be overwhelming for that little man but him and his mother you know and yeah there has been a reset I think it's a it's a out of every terrible tragedy the light a light has gone to emerge and I think the thing is that all the little things of this world that sometimes take us away from family or what they're not important but what is important is family and and his people and I think there has been a reset there's some sort of a seismic shift and the thinking of what's important Greg Father John Joe finally can ask for a bit of guidance from you because as you can imagine over the course of the last while you know people will be messaging in or calling in and saying such and such a thing is happening it could be a concert on Tuesday or a school play the following week and we're all at different stages and we all don't know what's right and what's wrong but from your perspective is it a case that respectfully things have to begin to move forward I understand why people might not want things to happen for different reasons but if you cancel a concert for instance what impact does that on two or three hundred other people maybe it's better if people come together and and spend some time and happiness with them have you any guidance in that regard for people out there Father John Joe I suppose nothing is straightforward at the moment I myself don't know Greg I'm living from minute to minute at times I'm living from hour to hour and I think it's something that we need to reflect on over the weekend I'm trying to see how I can be of best support to this community Bishop McGookian Father Paddy Dunn Father Pat McGarvey myself we're sitting here yesterday after we came back from the funeral and Remelton and and those are the very questions we are asking you know but but we will move forward it'll be a difficult pathway but you know come here your advice to me is most welcome the advice you know we need to listen to each other and see how we move forward together doing it as we have been doing it and helping one another holding each other's arms you know you know as I said journalists coming up giving me a hug you know words will find us and and and God will guide us and our community and you know you said something important there that that just stuck with me you know for those that's community will help community will help for those that prayer you know prayer will help and I'm a great firm believer in both prayer and community and that's how we will just listening to each other Father John Joe thank you so much and again thank you for everything we've done for everybody okay thanks to the people thank you okay from the bottom and we're here for you as well by the way uh going forward as well thank you Father John Joe um breed he's just an inspirational man he's like the glue that's holding everything together there and it was thanking everybody but himself yeah and he didn't really like me thanking him on behalf of everybody he was uncomfortable with it you could see he was uncomfortable with it but that is the nature of the man and hopefully you heard the words breed thank you for your lovely words today I know it's been an emotional hour for you as well and I think it's really quite fitting that Father John Joe's was the kind of the last contribution thank you so much and of course when I say last contributing I want parting words from you Paddy if that's okay as well well I suppose my final word there is a saying you know that some people are born great others achieve greatness and others have greatness trust upon them I'm not sure how apt that are but John Joe if he doesn't mind me saying has a big set of shoulders and and greatness happened to be thrust upon and he didn't he didn't want that and he didn't expect it but happily and luckily those shoulders were able to take it and take it very well and he happened to be the right man in the right place all right Paddy I'm glad you were with us this morning thank you you're welcome and John last but not not least um it's not much you don't know about Father John Joe so I'm not sure much of what he said surprises you because that's the nature of them absolutely not but I mean those final remarks that words will find us God will find us that is a very very fitting epitaph to the spurt that that is Father John Joe and his humility and I just wish the people of Chrysler I wish the grieving families the deepest of sympathy and I wish them well for the future and I know that they will be guided by Father John Joe but they'll be guided by their own spurt and and their own history so they God bless them all John thank you so much as I say it's an accident of scheduling I think that you were on today and no better person than yourself because you choose your words so wisely because you're a wise man and and anyone who can should pick up the Chicano Tribune as well because even if it's you're not ready to read it now I think it'll be of comfort and to people into the future John thank you thank you great all right bye bye take care of yourself no it's our pleasure right okay I tell you what we're gonna do we're gonna delay the news we're gonna go to the news now I'm delaying it slightly here but what we are going to do for the last hour is play some music I think just to you know maybe that's an appropriate way to finish this week of this program so if you have a particular song that you would like to hear maybe it's a song that was important to you this week I want I would love if you chose the songs because I'm terrible at it so if you're listening out there and it's something completely different but for the last hour we're going to have Michael and Phanoula back on next Friday but we're just going to listen to some music together let me know what you want to hear text or whatsapp 08 660 25000 08 660 25000 and it can be any type of song that's important to you and mean something to you and we can share it all together we'll give us a call in 07 491 25000 I'll try my best to do out the music that you want to hear but as I say for the last hour it's going to be a problem for those of you watching on Facebook because we can't stream music on Facebook so we'll switch off Facebook but you can still listen or watch on our website but anyway pick the songs for the last hour of today our DJs I think here at Highland Ready I've been so proud to work here have struck a really interesting and special balance over the last week so fair play to them but I want you to choose the music for the last hour 08 660 25000 what's apps and texts right in a minute past 10 let's go to Michaela for the news live on air online and on the Highland Radio app this is Highland Radio News Thanks Greg good morning the funeral of 59 year old Hugh Kelly a victim of the Creslaw tragedy will take place this morning he will be laid to rest following funeral mass at St Michael's Church Creslaw shortly at 11 o'clock one week on from the explosion that claimed the lives of 10 people the last funeral that of father and daughter Robert Garway and Shauna Flanagan Garway will take place two more morning at St Michael's Church Creslaw a special meeting of Donegal County Council will be held next week to acknowledge the tragedy Creslaw has become an example of how people can help and support each other that's according to father John Joe Duffy who has been a central figure in the midst of the Creslaw tragedy and leading the funeral masses of the majority of the victims and vigils for those who died and to remember the people who remain in hospital recovering from injuries and today's now until noon show father Duffy says people through Aunt Donegal have been united in grief I can't but help feel carried by my family which is this community the family of which I am one off and it's just the grief that I am feeling in my heart the heartbreak goodness that I am feeling and the pain that I am feeling has only a reflection of what we are experiencing in the community and we have been carried by so many people in this in this county upper green will hold a minute silence across its locations today in honor of the 10 people killed in the explosion last week it will take place at quarter past three upper green continues to raise funds for the local community of Creslaw in association with the irish red cross the current guard to Cranford road has been closed following a crash this morning emergency services are currently at the scene of what guardie have described as a serious crash on the road the single vehicle collision occurred at around eight o'clock this morning the road is closed and is expected to remain closed for the foreseeable future motorists are advised to seek alternative routes local diversions are in place nearly 20,000 children have been languishing on hospital waiting lists for over a year and a half 860 of those are waiting 18 months on an outpatient appointment at letter kenny university hospital a total of 2,201 children and 16,942 adults are waiting in our patient appointment at letter kenny university hospital according to latest figures from the national treatment purchase fund health minister steven donley says the cova pandemic continues to have an impact on hospital care dunningall dr denis mccolley however from the my irish medical organization says the problem has been ongoing for years i think these figures don't surprise general practitioners and doctors generally this was a situation that was present before covid the covid crisis have made this worse but it has been a it has been uh representative of underfunding of the hospital based system um for many decades and we are living with this on a day-to-day basis the epa has raised concerns that the use of pesticides in dunningall may be impacting water quality the water quality of the county's river has been fine to be good or moderate however the catchment of the dunhamville recorded one of the lowest percentage of satisfactory river water bodies in the country the latest report from the epa has highlighted concerns that cheap dipping may be contributing to water quality tom douglas reports concerns about the general decline in water quality and the overall ecological condition of some rivers in county dunningall highlighted a need to increase the number of chemical monitoring stations in the region some of the biological assessments indicated moderate or poor to bad quality conditions a toxic chemical effect was suspected in some cases as the number of macro invertebrate species was so low the epa says with dunningall having the largest population of sheep in the country and forestry covering 11 percent of its land area it is suspected a possible cause for the decline in river macro invertebrates could be from pesticides from sheep dipping or forestry activity widespread detection of cypermethrin was observed particularly in the southwest and the north of dunningall the epa has recommended a national cross agency forum be set up to focus on the appropriate management of spent sheep dip to prevent environmental pollution the group women for election is urging women in dunningall with an interest in politics to consider taking training courses to prepare them for potential election campaigns the group says nationally only 26 percent of local authority members are women and with only four women occupying dunningall counties councils 36 seats the percentage here is much lower than the national average at 11 percent spokesperson Megan Riley says with training and support women can go far in politics but says that the last local election in dunningall showed relatively few female candidates 85 total candidates but only 17 of those were women so i suppose women for elections messages about the facts that we need to be encouraging and supporting and saying it to women within the county to put themselves forward but there's ministers now in the dole that started off in their training programs there is ministers who found their campaign managers in our training programs and you know td's and senators as well we're supporting people right from the start of their interest in politics all the way up to them being elected weather night turning drier and brighter through the morning with sunny spells and scattered showers developing highest temperatures today up 10 or 11 degrees that's all from hindland radio news for now we'll be back with an update again at 11 o'clock until then good morning the obituary notice is for this friday morning october the 14th the death has taken place of rose scott clinca caldaff removal this afternoon at one o'clock from leham colnes's funeral premises caldaff going to her home funeral arrangements to be confirmed later family time plea from 11 p.m to 11 a.m the death has taken place in north shields of francis gruben son of the late frank and sarah treasick gruben nae griffin formerly of drumbo strunerler reposing acquigley's funeral home stirban on sunday afternoon from five o'clock with removal at six o'clock to the church of mary immaculate strunerler requiem mass on monday morning at 10 o'clock intermittent afterwards in drumbo cemetery the requiem mass can be viewed live via the parish webcam the tragic deaths occurred in creeslaw of robert garway and his daughter shawna flannigan garway of 55 mass and ass cottages creeslaw their remains will be reposing at their home in creeslaw from one until 10 o'clock today strictly family time from 10 o'clock tonight and on the morning of the funeral funeral mass in st michael's church creeslaw two more morning at 11 o'clock fall by private cremation funeral mass can be viewed live on mcmedia.tv family flowers only please the death has taken place of john white fall view st johnston visitors welcome to john's home on sunday evening from five until 10 o'clock funeral service in his late home on monday at 12 noon followed by cremation and lake lands crematorium cavern family flowers only donations if desired to st johnston presbyterian church care of mr james fleming stead of age st johnston the death has taken place of gwen crawford named mcglenn glenn ford lyford and formerly vliss clinn donna mana reposing at her home funeral from there two more morning at quarter past 10 for recreation mass in st patrick's church murlock at 11 o'clock fall by internment afterwards in the adjoining cemetery donations and leo flowers please to the johnny gall hospice care of quickly funeral directors the recreation mass come viewed live at clonley parish dot com the death has taken place of denis daugherty carmore glenn toher carndonna his remains are reposing at his brother gerry and john daugherty's residents in carmore glenn toher funeral from there this morning at quarter past 10 going to the sacred heart church carndonna for recreation mass at 11 o'clock fall by internment afterwards in the adjoining cemetery the death has occurred of brendan ronan 34 coletia road castle derg funer from the family home this morning at half past 10 for recreation mass at 11 o'clock in st patrick's church castle derg fall by internment in the adjoining church yard and the death has taken place of brendan james milloy drumbarn ardra reposing at 18 our negrania ardra house private place recreation mass at 11 o'clock this morning at the church of the holy family ardra with burial afterwards in the adjoining cemetery for more details including any family health guidelines for wigs and funerals please go to highland radio dot com okay you're very welcome back to the second hour of the nine till noon show on the third hour of the program today we're going to switch to music and you've been sending in your music suggestions for us i just thought we would give the entertainment item a break this week for the week that is in it so if you want to help choose the music for the last hour of the show you can text the whatsapp 08 660 25 000 08 660 25 000 or call 07 491 25 000 i will try my best you know we have a we're a radio station full of dj's brilliant dj's i'm not one of them so i'm going to try my best for you out there okay again a big thanks to father john joe speaking to us um this morning we do appreciate his time and i just thought we were talking about the person the man uh and it was nice to hear his words as well um the chaconal tribune says this listener provided compassionate and sensitive coverage of last friday's tragedy john and his team represent the highest level of journalism in this country greg when the debris is eventually cleared from creasel perhaps consideration should be given to the erection of a memorial park on the site some something to think about jim well it's it's a suggestion i would take my guidance from the local people uh they know themselves uh that was such an important center of of the town maybe the fitting tribute might be to return it to the heart of the town or maybe as you suggest a memorial park could be erected but they will decide amongst themselves i'm sure and they will know the right thing to do and what the majority want i'm sure that's how things will progress there it's not for for i it's it is for they of course to make that decision father john joe is a beautiful person such a caring man says a caller another father john joe is a wonderful priest the week my son was going through open art surgery i met father john joe on my way into strinola chapel as he was returning to do a marriage ceremony he spoke to me and said he would pray for my son and i want him to know that my son is now doing very well and that i will continue to pray for him and his community and those suffering from this tragedy god bless them all a wonderful priest another father john joe has shown great leadership and gave a lot of people a person to look up to we need people like that as an ambassador for donny golland arland he gave a lot of people example of what has to be done when the chips are down just a big clap for father duffy well done says a caller another cancelling saves lives and it goes without saying that it will be so so needed by the survivors relatives rescuers emergency services and the giants in the crecelock community and also those who are covering it like yourself greg another media touched by it another caller greg for a county that often gets referred to as cult cheese as a people on the horrendous events of last friday we have a million reasons to be so proud of everyone involved in help and rescue throughout the whole heartbreaking week god bless all and god comfort and console all the bereaved and not forgetting those still in hospital recovering that comes in for mary and indeed you know we have to sometimes bang the drum uh for ourselves in the northwest father john joe amongst the leading drummers for for you know investment and services but we have so much going for us as well uh father don and father magave have been a huge support father john joe they have been excellent the undertakers as well have done a fantastic job and indeed and father don and father magave uh have been mentioned this morning not least as well from father john joe another caller says father john joe is a fantastic dynamo at the center of the saint joseph's community hospital campaign even when he moved from the twin towns up to creceler he never missed meetings and probably was the major factor in remaining uh open against all hsc opposition he and the saint joseph's committee probably saved lives by keeping saint joseph's open uh when it was crucial during the covid crisis that proved how important community hospital care is another father john joe's an incredible human being not only because of the tragic events of this week in creceler his care and compassion for people is unparalleled indeed he didn't just appear out of nowhere um on many different issues as we've heard he has been there and has been a support okay um we are going to take a break keep your music suggestions coming in i think at this point uh there's you know some people listening looking for the same song uh and others which we might not be able to fit in but i will try my best 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show here in highland radio mary rye of sorry mary and ryan consumer tax manager at taxback dot com joins us good morning mary and thanks for taking the call today great to be here right okay now hundreds of thousands of people have yet to contact revenue to sort out how they'll pay tax owed on the pandemic unemployment payment to receive during lockdown i wonder how many of our listeners are even aware that they were supposed to contact revenue in this regard can you give us the background then to this this payment and and what we have to pay back yeah so i suppose not to go back to go back to there but when the pandemic hit first of all i suppose there was a big panic there to get payments to income to people there are a lot of people lost their jobs very quickly couldn't pay wages so the wage subsidy and the pp were introduced there and there were great support at the time but i suppose the thing with them is that they were deemed as taxable of income so there was pay away to be paid on them it wasn't deducted at source at the time which means that i suppose the employees were getting the full payment of it and they they spent it and they worked on it there but they did they do now have to pay the tax owed on it there and for some people it's quite a substantial amount they could actually end up going like some people could end up going about two and a half thousand euros in taxes there so i suppose a lot of people are getting a fright today when they're reading that article and seeing that and hearing it but i suppose the thing to bear in mind is that it's not immediate that i have to pay it back the revenue would allow people to pay it back over the space of four years through their tax credits which means that they're they'd be paying a little bit more tax every week or every month there for the couple of years to claw back and another thing i suppose people need to bear in mind is that we can reduce that down an awful amount for people there by finding their tax reviews for the other years so at the moment you could potentially be due refunds for 2018 2019 and 2020 2021 so they could all be used to offset and bring down that that tax bill for people of it yep now who is like who will this be sorted out for automatically and who might have to make contact with revenue that's the bit that that confuses me a little yeah so i suppose it's anyone so say if you lost your job during the pandemic and you received the pop which is the pandemic on employment payments of the social welfare payment there at the time that potentially might be yourself and also as well it's people that actually worked through the pandemic but their employer may receive the wage subsidy for them so that's really going to hit hard i suppose at the middle income earners there so say if you had a job maybe you're working in the front line or you had a job and you were you're working from home so you didn't it wasn't that you weren't working during the pandemic you were still working under the same amount of stress but because your employer received the wage subsidy there so the the supplement to help them pay the pay the wages during the pandemic there's people that are going to hit with the really hard tax bills and there's people that might not even be aware that they received it and that that it's coming down the line for them so i suppose everyone should really look into their taxes for 2020 and see what the story is would it there ask your employer if it's a case that they received the wage subsidy just ask them if they did and if that's the case that you're probably going to be one of those people there now a lot of people have have been aware of this and have filed their tax returns but i suppose there's 300 000 million people that have received these payments that haven't done anything yet they might have their their head buried in the sand hoping that it'll go away or maybe a case that they know that the tax liability is looming there for them and they just simply with the cost living crisis that's going on at the moment they can't comprehend having to pay more tax so they're just they're kind of kicking it down the line a little bit for themselves yeah and in terms of those who may be entitled to tax back because obviously that's the function of your company of those that make contact how many sort of end up getting uh you know they're overpaying taxes or they're not they're not um they're not um maybe claiming all of their their breaks or what have you like of those that contact you how many sort of are entitled to uh to some sort of a return and what's the ballpark figure on that the average yeah a huge amount of people so nearly everyone would be you'd have some sort of an expense in the year so like suppose the most common reason for a refund for people would be the medical expenses so if you've any doctor visits or prescription fees run for like that you do about 20 percent of that in your taxes as well and then suppose there's a huge cohort of us as well working from home it's a thing called e-worker relief there so we find in generally at least about two-thirds people are due at tax refund and it could be up to the amount of about 1800 euros that's the average refund that we find for people over the four years so I suppose there's still a huge amount of kind of apathy out there in relation to POE workers like us that we don't ever look into our taxes and we assume that oh my employer is going to look after that for me which is correct and right to an extent but your employer is not going to claim for your expenses for you there so it's really worthwhile for people to look into their taxes and make sure that they're getting you have some debt they're entitled to there yeah and you obviously need the receipts from your medical expenses or access to them but a lot of these in the first instance is there your word is taken on it and I think there's a random process as to you know who they might seek receipts off now I mean you need access to the receipts or to have the receipts but in other words if someone's saying oh I don't have all that information for the last three or four years right now what is the story there yeah exactly so there is random selection basically when it comes to the revenue audit looking for receipts and stuff like that and say for people who are claiming the e-worker relief so it's your utility bills that you need access to or you need to know the amount of it so how much you paid in your heating how much you paid in your electricity in the last year or two and how much you paid for your broadband there you also as well it's kind of portioned out to the number of days in the year that you worked as well but you don't need any kind of evidence of that you just need to let them know how many days in the year that you worked there so I suppose you don't need to have them to hand exactly at the moment you do need to know the amount of them but it's really easy to I suppose your doctor will get you out they have to know GDPR and after that they have to issue a statement for the last four years of how many times you've been there and how much it's total cost was and the pharmacist and stuff like that they're really good as well they'll pinch off a statement straight away there so it's best to have these things because the last thing you want to do is submit your refund application today get your refund and then have revenue back in three years looking for their receipt revenue after you that's the last thing we need all right marine thanks for your time this morning appreciate it lovely chatting to you thank you take care of yourself and people can go people can go to taxback.com for more information there if they want thank you so much by the way for all your music selections I'm in a bit of a panic here in terms of drawing it all together it's a long time since I DJed I'm not gonna lie well not that I'm DJing but you know what I 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thank you so much for joining us right a report out i was surprised at the headline to be honest with you 80 percent of lone parents report experiencing stigma or judgmental attitudes in my naivety i thought we were we were beyond that the majority of us caron no unfortunately not i mean we work with people parenting on their own and sharing parenting from all over the country and we hear this all the time so maybe the kind of the big headline prejudice from years ago isn't there but people still experience it sometimes in public services and actually 60 percent of them said from their family and friends which we were very surprised about um but unfortunately people are feeling that they're being judged you know when they say they're a lone parent um and they feel that they are being treated differently and that's still a real thing so it's not necessarily uh a societal or religious thing or a neighbor looking down the nose at someone or whatever it's it i'm not saying that's not part of it as well but it's it's beyond that isn't it for the majority it is it is because we know say at a structural or legal level there are discriminations against lone parents and one parent families in the social welfare system in our constitution um in various services and government schemes so there's that kind of level and then there's just also how people are treated and these can be very small things but people pick up on them and they and if they're already feeling bad about themselves this really doesn't help so actually after family and friends media was the next big thing that people found portrayed them negatively and how does that manifest itself uh maybe that's too specific but can you do you have examples to hand so that we can get an understanding is it maybe reading is it yeah is it like maybe reading texts from people that might say you know well well they get everything handed to them or is it that type of representation in the media we didn't ask them that but i think that's a good question i think my experience haven't worked in this area for many years is that members of the media themselves are far less likely to ask judgmental or inappropriate questions now or as 10 15 years ago they did um so that has definitely changed which is welcome but below the line stuff on on any kind of media outlet or texts as you say still shows huge misunderstandings at best and prejudice at worst against people in one person and i suppose you know that's hurtful yeah and i can understand that because there are certain groups that you wouldn't go near a negative text now we don't read them out here by the way uh and i'm not saying we're perfect don't get me wrong but i hope we haven't been uh guilty of saying but if you know i think it's always important if a group or an individual feel that they've been misrepresented or offended that they should contact the likes of us here because we're we'll be more than happy to learn because every day is a learning day sometimes it's accidental but also it could be indifference indifference and discrimination can amount to the same thing so when we're highlighting failings in a budget for example or benefits of a budget if you're a uh a one parent family you might feel that your plight is not being um heard or no one's asking a question what are you doing as a state for one parent families and in a way that is then of course discriminations that could be another example in the media i presume uh Karen yeah i mean the budget from a couple of weeks ago or was it just last week um had absolutely nothing targeted at one parent families even though the poorest children live in one parent families and all the evidence and research shows that these families have extra barriers you know and they need extra support and there was just nothing targeted them for it and they're going to be worse off and anyone certainly who's reliant on social welfare it's going to be far worse off in a couple of months once the the kind of you know the 600 euro credit and all that's gone and it's it's inexplicable to us in one family having met the ministers in that department having talked to the officials so many times having produced the research why this would happen and parents can see that too they can see that they're not included and that other people with disabilities or older people or carers have been supported um as they should be but it's really hard to see the parents and their children are being left behind and it's we're we're very unclear why and you're kind of left with is is it just prejudice is it just they're not seen as important or they'll get on with it and suck it up and you know not give out because their lives are so busy and so stressful and they're up against it they don't have time to be fighting all the time yeah you know so um yeah the budget was an incredible letdown and you know yesterday we had a big celebration event to mark our 50th anniversary and all our founders were there and Mary Robinson was our first president um and it was a wonderful occasion and yet we still had all these problems that parents are facing now yeah um you asked the question or the question was asked if you have experienced negative attitudes because you're a one-parent family where has it been now 60 percent uh 60 percent of people said it was from family and friends or that could be the neighbors they feel they're looking down and knows and whatever you know whatever about people as individuals it's not it's not excusable and I thought we had to move forward here but it's certainly not excusable that 40 percent feel uh they feel they've been discriminated against by an arm of the state such as the health service or 40 percent uh in education 40 percent in social protection services 30 percent in the workplace so I'm not in in any way excusing the figure for family and friends but you would hope the training or or systems have been put in place that someone might not feel discriminated against when accessing the health service or education for that matter well there are um last month we launched some other research around human rights and equality for one-parent families and we were really looking at public bodies government departments in their public sector duty where they have to treat people equally and we found incredible examples of structural discrimination not not just someone's attitude because you can have a wonderful staff member and we had examples of that and you can have people who are deeply personally prejudiced and haven't been trained and so it's it was a real mix but there are many examples and in all of those different areas of schemes policies laws structures that actively work against people who are parenting on their own and so I'll give you an example and to qualify for the working family payment for example it's really for people who are on low incomes they've got children and they're working and a lone parent has to work the same number of hours per week as a two-parent family who can split that time between them so even though they don't have someone else to help them with childcare they have to work the same amount of time to qualify for that that doesn't make sense it doesn't support a family to get all social welfare into work we hear reports sometimes from parents who may have chronically ill children in hospital and sometimes they don't want they only want the other parent present they don't want another family member but the other parent may not be involved in the child's life so they're just it's incredible to think there are so many people living in one-parent families one in five children and yet there's still people who don't get that this is a mainstream every day type of family that you have to think a little bit differently about yeah to help make their lives workable there's some serious very serious stuff that that needs to be done to address this but the stuff that we can change today that that might help and that's maybe our language because maybe some of this is accidental like say for instance we might um we might a couple might have just got together or there might be you've gotten serious or they've just got married right and we might say to them uh you know any kids on the way or you're having children but they we don't know if they've just lost a child for instance if they're miscarriage or maybe they can't have children you know what i mean and that could feel deeply upsetting to them but we wouldn't intend that the same way we would say ask someone about their husband or their wife or their partner as well presuming they must have one when in fact you know we know so many people do so it's just maybe uh just think for a moment to make sure we don't cause upset unintentionally either yeah and that's a that's an example that we heard about actually was the presumption that there was a husband and there was somebody there to support and just the presumption that everyone else in the class or school was in a you know happily married two-parent family which of course is not the reality either um and some some mothers and dads said they felt quite excluded actually you know at the schoolyard gate at g a you know ordinary things um and and that's difficult and i suppose it's just also all taken a little bit of responsibility not to assume the person in front of us is like us you know or you know whether that's someone with a disability or someone someone could have just lost their partner or a child as you say there's all kinds of things going on in our lives and it's just being sensitive and we don't really have to change greatly it's just it's like altering of words we don't have to push your foot around it's not about that or uh you know oh you can't say anything that it's not that but we're not in that space it's just a case of considering what impact your words might have if this person is in a position that you didn't believe and also then the practical things like ordering a passport i mean having to go to the guard and you know we have to go to court yeah or dependent something maybe if someone's you know a widow or whatever it might be there's different there's different statuses of being single parent of course but you know what i mean there's there's jet different hoops that have to be jumped through dependent on the family setup yes and whether there is um whether the other parent is around what you know what level of legal relationship they have with the child um and then if somebody has been involved in an abusive relationship that kind of abuse and control can continue right throughout the child's life we see that very regularly for separated families and they are having huge difficulties being able to move forward because you know access for the child to health services and passports as you say going on holidays child maintenance all those things can be just another lever of control and there can be an absolute lack of understanding around that so there are many people who are having serious problems in Ireland and i suppose it's to go back to having an open question rather than a presumption yeah because people will tell you oh this is my situation if they're asked in a nice way and it's just it's just not having that presumption because people really feel it i mean there is i know um african-americans talk about microaggressions those little pains that just get at people all the time and that is in essence what we hear some parents experience they go into the department of social protection they're asked questions they feel are uh too intrusive they may have their home inspected they may have their wardrobes opened and you know the social welfare inspectors can be very appropriate and they can be very very intrusive and that is because some kind of old-fashioned presumption that um you know you're not supposed to have a man there but actually it's also because two parent families sometimes defraud the welfare system and lone parents get the brunt of it yeah another call says i had to leave my good friends house and inverted commas after they implied it was sad that my son would never be as loved as their children because he only has me now that's whether that was said directly or not the people that said that probably just said oh she's away or he's away early tonight oh yeah must be something and moved on with their life completely unaware of the impact that those words have stuck with this person to the point where they've text us in today and that's probably a person that's trying to do two roles and doing all the different runs and everything to make sure that that child is as loved as a child with two parents because the the presumption here is is that automatically two parents are better but we know that often you know a child and a two parent a two parent household it depends on how the parents treat the child and so on and so forth again and not just that actually it's also there's longitudinal research from Ireland uh Australia the UK all showing that children and one parent families do just as well as two parent families once the factors of poverty have been adjusted for so it is poverty and the problems that people face that cause any disadvantage and not anything else i think in Ireland uh children and one parent families are slightly better at maths that's it that is the only difference so if their income was as good as everyone else's there wouldn't be a problem and their income level is not their fault it's the state's fault frankly yeah and here we are speaking about this important issue that affects so many people and it's off the back of the survey having to be done about it but sure as long as it gets the conversation going uh and um we appreciate your time in helping us tease it out Karen this morning have a lovely day will you thank you very much take care of yourself thanks for your time right Karen Kernan their chief 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