 And how did how did these shape the events that happened? Because I believe, I in man believe, I learned this from my in man, and Leonard Peacock that ideas shape history. They shape the future. They shape human events. They shape your life as an individual. And they shape our lives as a culture and as a historical phenomenon. And you know, now we wanna move on to the main topic, but just I just wanted to give a comment. You know, honestly speaking, I never even heard of Ayn Rand or yourself or even philosophy of objectivism until I started prepping for this interview. And you know, doing a Google search only yields like bias and the inaccurate data of different things. And even two, I feel our listeners probably don't even know who Ayn Rand is, considering they're born way past her timeline. And the most significant history event was either the 2008 Great Recession or 9-11. And so, you know, as the head of the Ayn Rand Institute, I'm pretty sure you know a lot about Ayn Rand, her life, her philosophies. So could you tell our listeners who was Ayn Rand? So I do, I need to make one more correction in my bio. I'm not technically the head of the Ayn Rand Institute. And so as a CEO, I was for 17 years. I'm now the chairman of the board. So, you know, Tal Tswani is the CEO of the Ayn Rand Institute, but so just with that, I don't wanna get into trouble. So just with that coming. Sure, I mean, Ayn Rand was a writer, novelist and a philosopher. And for most Genziers, but really for anybody, the thing you wanna really read is the fountain head and Al Shog, you know, hopefully, some of your viewers will have read the books because the books are out there. They're in the culture, they're part of the culture. And even in some schools, particularly in the United States at least, I'm not sure how much in Canada, but also in Canada, at least during my years as head of the Ayn Rand Institute, it was certainly the case in Canada. Fountain head and Anthem and Al Shog were books being read in high schools in Canada. We get a lot of Canadian kids writing into our high school essay contests. We did that in the US and UK in a lot of English speaking countries, even in non-English speaking countries. We have the largest high school essay contest in the world. We get thousands and thousands of essays. And that's how partially how we keep Ayn Rand alive for the younger generations. People go online and look for scholarships. And they find the essay contest and they apply and a lot of people have won a lot of money from us. So Ayn Rand was a novelist primarily and a philosopher. She was born in 1905 in St. Petersburg, Russia. She was born to, her father was a pharmacist. He owned a pharmacy at the bottom of the building in which they lived. So he had a reasonable, a nice business, a reasonable income. And then of course in 1914, you had the Russian revolution. You had the rise of communism. Literally the square where this revolution starts is in St. Petersburg right outside of the pharmacy, right outside of their home. She witnessed it. So she lived through the civil war in Russia during the revolution. And of course, when the revolution was won by the communists, the pharmacy was taken away, nationalized, their apartment was taken away, they had to share it with other families. So she witnessed, was a real witness to life under communism and what that meant as a teenager. She went to university, but it was quite clear that she stayed in the Soviet Union. They would kill her. I mean, she was an independent thinker from very young and she could not hold her tongue. I mean, she expressed her views and she was gonna get into trouble and there was no question about that. So in a small window of opportunity in the 1920s, when Lenin allowed people to leave in the late 1920s for study abroad type things, she managed to get a visa to the United States to come and research film. She was studying film and she got, she had a cousin in the U.S. who owned a movie theater in Chicago and he wrote a letter and she got out. Her family knew she would never come back. So she got on a train left. They knew they would never see her again. And she came to the United States, came to Chicago with nothing. Then went to Hollywood because her dream was to be a writer and she loved movies. So she wanted to be a screenwriter. She wanted to write for the movies. And on her first day in Hollywood, true story, she goes to Ceci B. DeMille studios. You guys probably don't know who Ceci B. DeMille was, but one of the great pioneers of the movie industry and one of the most famous directors in movie history. And she goes to the studio and she has a lot of introduction. They say, don't call us, we'll call you. She walks out of the studio and Ceci B. DeMille driving by in this massive convertible. And this is the late 1920s and she stares at him. She's this little Russian girl. She stares at him and he stops the car and he says, why are you staring at me? What are you doing here? And she tells him, I'm from Russia and she has this thick Russian accent in her. I wanna get into the movies. I wanna learn everything there is about the industry. I wanna write for the movies. And he says, okay, well, get in the car. Let me show you. So he takes her to where they're filming The King of Kings is a movie silent movie about Jesus Christ, right? And he says, here's a weak pass to the lot so you can learn about the movies. So she becomes an extra on the movie. And for years she has all kinds of odds and ends jobs in the movie business trying to learn. And ultimately she writes scripts. She gets movies made. She reviews scripts. So she becomes part of the industry. She also writes plays and some of them are ultimately performed on Broadway and in LA. She writes her first novel, We the Living, which is a close to an autobiographical novel that she ever wrote. It's about growing up in a communism in the Soviet Union and what life is like. It's a powerful novel. I recommend it to everybody. It's a fairly easy read and it's beautiful and it's heart wrenching because you see what communism really is about. She then writes a little novel letter called a novella called Anthem, which is published in the UK first and only then in the United States, a dystopian type novella. Take you about a couple of hours to read. Definitely worth reading. It's very short, but again, very powerful. And here you can already start seeing the themes. Individualism versus collectivism comes out of this. What is the purpose of life? Is it to live for others or to live for yourself that comes out of this novella? Then she writes a book called The Fountainhead and The Fountainhead is rejected by 12 publishers. But when it comes out, finally the publisher brings it out and they don't quite believe in it. They don't print a lot of copies, but it becomes a bestseller and word of mouth and they have to go back into the printing presses and read print and it's still a bestseller. It still sells tens of thousands and sometimes hundreds of thousands of copies a year around the world. Today it's being translated into almost every language out there. There are more copies of Fountainhead that sell in other languages than in English. It's a huge international bestseller. And I think if you wanna understand... I mean, I think it's the American novel. I think it's the American novel. Forget Scott F. Fitzgerald. It doesn't come close. The Fountainhead represents America in its deepest sense and what it means and what America represents. And then after the Fountainhead, she wrote her, what is a Magnus Opus Atlas Shrugged. It took her 12 years to write. By the time she published this, every publisher wanted it. They bid for it. And when it came out, it was an instant bestseller. And again, it sells hundreds of thousands of copies, tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of copies every single year in every language out there. And it's everybody should read Atlas Shrugged. It's a profound book where she really summarizes her entire philosophy. And then the rest of her life. So this was Fountainhead was published in 45. Atlas Shrugged was published in 1957. I know ancient history for you guys. And then she spent the 60s and 70s really writing philosophical commentary on the culture. Real philosophical original work, but then a lot of what she wrote was commentary on the culture and what was going on. She died in 1982. And the Einman Institute was founded in 1885 to kind of continue promoting her work and make sure that her philosophy stays in the public eye and in the debate and in the discussion. And it's still true that many young people read her book. Many young people are influenced by her. And now with the internet, it's an opportunity to get these ideas to even a broader, bigger audience. So that's who we can talk about her ideas if you like next. Yeah, that was just my... What we need today, what I call the new intellectual would be any man or woman who is willing to think. Meaning any man or woman who knows that man's life must be guided by reason, by the intellect, not by feelings, wishes, whims or mystic revelations. Any man or woman who values his life and who does not want to give in to today's cult of despair, cynicism and impotence and does not intend to give up the world to the dark ages and to the role of the collectivist brought. 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