 The Mac observers Mac geek have episode eight eighty nine for Monday, September 13th, twenty twenty one Welcome to the Mac observers Mac geek have the show where you send in your tips your questions your cool stuff found We take all of those things we try to answer your questions We share your tips we share your cool stuff found we share some tips and cool stuff found of our own the goal being that each of us you Me mr. Braun every one of us we learn at least Five new things every week when we get together Sponsors for this episode include BB at it from bare bones comm and upstart where at upstart comm slash MGG You can consolidate your debt and pull all that stuff together. We'll talk more in-depth about each of those Very shortly here, but for now here back here. Although. I think I was back here for the last episode, too Right. Yeah back here and regardless of the temporal nature of my Being here. I am here in Durham, New Hampshire Dave Hamilton and here in Fairfield, Connecticut no longer being overrun by Drunk and college students. This is John F. Braun. What happened to your drunken college students. Are they just less drunk? Well, they all decided to gather Gather down by the beach there were like a thousand of them. Oh, oh, okay, because I mean Seven calls for intoxication. So some Yeah, they're learning to drink I guess, you know, is that but I mean like that was just first weekend back to school kind of stuff, right? Yeah, but the thing is, you know, like you're not supposed to drink in public They have some all over the place and there were you know bottles and cans and cups all over the place I mean, come on clean up your mess. My guess is the majority of the students at college are also underage So there are other laws preventing the king as well, but you know, they're college students. I get it I have two of them. So what and one of them is is underage. So there you go Yeah, all right, meanwhile back at the ranch we have two We have two bits of news number one is we would love your help and you can have a little help in doing it We are taking our long outdated Information about this show and updating it. So we have put out a Mackie Kepp listener survey. The link is in the show notes It's also on our Twitter feed We there's obviously some things that are helpful for us to know just about you in general But also we put some questions in there about the show and we really like those are very important to us So let us know what you think about the show and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna Lead the witness or anything here other than to the survey and then we'll let the survey sort of speak for itself But make sure here's a pro tip. So we are giving away a many $50 Amazon gift cards for People we're drawing at one out of every hundred people that fills out the survey We'll get an Amazon a $50 Amazon gift card. 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So So do that for us, please please please please please please okay, and then the second thing is Apple as I'm sure everyone has heard. So this will be from the day the show comes out tomorrow, but Regardless, I don't know when you're listening to this because that's the beauty of it so Tuesday the 14th of September Apple is having their California streaming event and We will be doing a reaction to that We will be sharing our reactions to that on a special Mackie Keb episode right after the event ends So that will come out presumably barring any logistical hurdles that will also come out on Tuesday But you can you can join us at live dot Mackie Keb calm whenever that is in fact you can go to live dot Mackie Keb calm during the Apple event and Chat with us and any other listeners who are there in our IRC room. We will not We will not be talking during that that will just be You know watch the Apple event however you choose to watch it and then chat along with us And then afterwards we will live stream our reactions, but we'll also record them because that's what we that's what we do All right Link to the Apple events page where you can add it to your calendar if you really want to nice awesome And I think it has a link to the event stream in the invite. So Okay, that's handy. That's great. Yeah, that's great All right, so that's That's all of the business that we have to talk about their logistics and all that good stuff Donna brings us, you know, I always say this quick tip is my favorite at the moment This quick tip is my favorite. She forwarded us an email from the fine folks at iPhone life and she says I didn't I Can't believe I didn't know about this and it is how to type numbers on an iPhone without leaving the ABC keyboard And so, you know, if you want to type numbers on the iPhone You got to tap the one two three in the corner and then tap the you know Then you type your numbers and then you tap the the the ABC in the bottom and it brings you back to the ABC keyboard However, what you can do and it really helps if you use two hands You touch and hold the one two three button and While you're holding it the numbers keyboard appears you tap the numbers you want and then you let go of The one two three button and you're back to the ABC keyboard So it's all it and like explaining it you I'm sure you understand what I'm what I'm saying at least I hope you do It is much smoother than it sounds like I I've been doing this since this tip came in and it's like it's so smooth I so it's one of those things that if Apple has documented it. They haven't made it clear. So Thank you for that Donna. She says I'll throw on my own tip, which I use more than I ever expected She said but it's possible. I heard this on Mackie cab So forgive me if I'm sharing something that you already told me about to get a degrees symbol hold down the number zero and After a pause the degrees symbol appears as an option next to zero And I think you also get like theta, which is oh, no you get theta if you hold down the oh Which is a you know, oh or in some people's minds a zero with a slash through it. I think right? I will test that as we are as we are right here. So if I go and I hold down the zero Yeah, you just get degrees next to the zero But if you hold down the oh, then you get the theta which is the oh with a line through it. So So there you go all kinds of tips try holding down things on the phone including the one two three button Thank you for that Donna. It's my favorite. Oh, yeah most other keys Yeah, they're all kind of different like a it gives you all the accented versions. I thought it would give me Alpha, but it doesn't Yes, it was So if you want to type yeah, you're right the the accented versions are there that's correct I a separate tip on the Mac if you want to do an accent over a Character the way you do it is you hold down option E And then type the character that you would like that accent to sit on top of And so if you want it to be an accent over a you you would type option E and Then release both of those keys So an option is no longer being held down and then hit you and you will get it there So but I don't think you can do it over like a P No, because there is no character with an accent above the P. It needs to be like a character in the font Or in the in the ASCII tree or something like that. I forget in the character set. Let's just go with that That'll be less inaccurate But yeah, yeah fun stuff. So, you know You can put you can put an oom lot over a you by hitting option you but you can also put an oom lot over an Oh by hitting option you and then oh, so you know all kinds of things All kinds of things. Yeah as a as dr. Dream says in the chat room It IRC dot alright, sorry at live dot Mac keek up calm It is an IRC chat room But the way that the easiest way to get there is live dot make keek up calm That tap and hold is the number one tip appreciated by new users of iOS according to One of one listeners surveyed. So there you go Alright and and he does point out that we need the ability to put and we don't have it that we need to put The ability to put an oom lot over the end so that we can properly type the name of the band and of course the movie spinal tap They put the oom lot over the end so Anyway And we did something similar with the Cirque du Mac 11 logo For those of you that want to go back and look at that. All right that That's because that one went to 11 Todd brings us our next quick tip and saves us from Descending into spinal tap references, which we could do just for hours I ditched my bedside alarm clock about a year ago in favor of using my series 5 Apple watch in nightstand mode As you mentioned in episode 888 I have two additional tips once the watch is in nightstand mode Which is as I as last week The watch is on charge on its side crown facing up. Okay Tapping or nudging your nightstand. So simply making the watch move without even touching the watch Will turn on the watch display so you can see what time it is It's much easier than trying to tap the screen in the dark. Totally correct and great tip Caution he says when the alarm is on and you want to snooze There you will see two Labels at the top of the display one underneath the crown, which is for snooze and one underneath the Button on the watch, which is for stop However, if you touch those labels, they also will activate So if you happen to touch the stop label, it will stop your alarm and not snooze it. So Just be aware of that. I don't I don't even know I guess I knew that the crown would snooze it because I'm sure I've seen it in my, you know wake from slumber mode, but But I I don't I don't ever remember seeing stop But uh, yeah, so anyway, this is great. That's why we love quick tips is to point out the things that are obvious But not to all of us and that's sort of the key it's beautiful Any thoughts on that before we move on to our final quick tip of the Of this episode. Okay Ian Shares a story related to he says I heard the quick tip from tony on mackie cup 887 to use tell Uh with siri for making it feel personal when sending information over messages This is I enjoyed hearing your story, dave about setting a nickname for your wife to be current wife Which should be a caution or a quick tip on its own agreed. Uh, he says My advice is test any nicknames before using in a public setting at a work function I decided to send a quick message to my wife by saying siri tell my wife I will be getting home late. I was not aware I had multiple cards for my wife in my contacts when siri happily responded Which wife the room was silent enough to hear my embarrassment until siri finished her sentence siri actually responded which wife Barbara or barbara So after this experience, he says I learned the value of contact management and now I have a funny story to tell Yeah, it is good to go through and clean up your contacts and and contacts does make it Easy to do to solve especially ian's problem Where you can just highlight two or more contacts and then go I believe to the contacts menu and choose merge Or maybe it's the card menu. Yeah, it's the card menu and you choose merge selected cards So, uh, so bear that in mind and it it does it is handy once you've kind of gotten things organized You know as it is with anything in life. So All right, thank you ian good stuff. Um All right, I had a chance john to check out something New from kingston. It's their uh kingston data traveler max flash drives and these are usb-c They have a usb-c connector it recedes inside the flash drive which is kind of nice and they are As they state usb 3.2 gen 2 which means that they that the interface can run up to 10 gigabits which means up to a thousand megabytes per second I tested these they have a 1 terabyte 512 and a 256 going from 262 262 us dollars for the 1 terabyte down to 91 for the 256 And uh, I was able to get over 900 megabits megabytes. Sorry per second reads and over 800 megabytes per second Right, so very close to their claims of a thousand and 900 respectively. So yeah It's super handy thing, you know, and it's funny it arrived the test unit arrived about I don't know an hour after I Sent some data from my laptop We had some songs that were mixing for we're putting out a new fling E.p. And we've got some songs that we were mixing and I had them on the road with me So I could do some mixing and mastering You know while I wasn't home And so it was I don't know five or six gigs of data or something And over my wi-fi network wherever I happened to be with my laptop at the time it took I don't know seven minutes or something to blast these back to the iMac here in the studio and uh And and the email came in that this was out for delivery Like while I was sitting there Doing this and it was like, you know, I should be smarter about this because I could just copy it over to this thing Bring it up. Look it into this iMac and and I'm good to go. So These things are handy the sneaker net still has its place in the world and uh, and I I was proving it to myself at that time So yeah, yeah Yeah, I don't yet have a usb c flash drive. I use uh, I have two of these I will send you one or or if we get to see each other in october I will bring you one But I'm not sure we'll see each other. Well, you and I may choose to see each other in october I'm not sure if pepcom in october will happen in person. Right, but um, but maybe we should plan to see each other Anyway, it's been too long. So yeah for those that are into photography. I I saw this in my news feed, but um There's a show that they have in new york, um at the jab. It's called photo plus and they said this year A few months ago. They said, oh, um, yeah, we're gonna we're gonna do it and it's like oh Okay, uh, but the news just hit that they're gonna back off. Yeah Events Yeah, right. Well, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I um I'm curious I'm curious to see whether photo plus happens in person or not. All right Sorry, whether pepcom happens in person or not. It's it's like far enough. It's a month and a half away A month the six weeks away or something like that, right? It's the 20 20th no 28th something like that toward the end of october whatever whenever that might be Yeah, they are doing Kind of a virtual thing or you probably oh you linked to it already. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, it's the october 28th Right, so it's right before halloween. So I get it, you know Oh It might happen. I could see it. I could see it happening, but I could also see it not. Anyway, we'll find out. Yeah. Yeah Um One other thing I'll get this to you. I'll get this flash drive to you one way or another. Okay. Yeah, the mail works. Yeah Yeah, um The other thing is uh while while you were talking about what you were doing Moving things around you said this term that I don't think many are familiar with davin e p Oh, well, it's actually become a far more common term these days because so many bands are not bothering to release full length albums, right? So E p is short for extended play and it used to be that you would get an e p on like a An audio cassette, right? Like, you know five songs four or five songs is generally like the length of a of an e p And that's become in the in the digital world has has surged in pot re surged in popularity So people might actually know that term, uh You know because you know bands you don't have to wait until you can press an entire cd Right that you have enough songs to press an entire cd. Just put together a collection and say here Here's our you know fall 2021 e p. There you go. So And um, and then there's an lp Right the lp. Well, that's what it was right. It is the lp was the the Other long play and extended play Uh e p Yeah, yeah, yeah, so there you go uh Let's see. What do we got here? What's next christopher? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah christopher good stuff um christopher Brings us a cool stuff found that uh, that i'm surprised we have never mentioned he says um Complimenting mac geek. Um is mac most.com with gary rosin's week and his youtube channel. He says, uh, he's posted a link to one of his Uh hundreds and hundreds of videos for us. So we'll we'll just link to the whole thing there He's and he and I agree with christopher here Gary does fantastic how-to videos and and just instructional things It really is a compliment to what we do here and and I I I believe that we are writing a wrong. I don't I I don't think we've ever mentioned gary or mac most before so I'm glad to thank you christopher for helping us with this. Uh, he says What you'll appreciate about gary is his to the point presentations. They're very informative quick and educational Just like with mg g you will definitely learn more about apple devices Mainly max when you view his videos no bs no long rambling presentations You're in and out in minutes rarely longer than 12 minutes mac most is the hug to mac geek abs kiss Lots of apple loving. Thank you for that christopher and uh, and thanks for sending that in. Yeah, that's great good stuff all right, uh Last I have another cool stuff found really it's a cool stuff found revisited It is the rapid x my charging station. We talked about this When we first heard about it at I forget which of the you know online remote event things it was But now I actually have one and it's pretty cool So the idea behind this thing it looks very unruly when you first see it, right? But it plugs into a two outlet, uh, you know wall plug And and takes over both of those outlets, but then passes both of them through So your outlets remain usable by you for whatever you want but In it's uh in its design it grabs power and so it has Uh, it has a chi charging slot for your phone that you can drop right in and then on the top of it It's got this flip down um Place where you can store all kinds of things including an apple watch But also other phones or even tablets and it's got uh four usb ports And then also a 45 four usb a ports I should say and then also a 45 watt usb c port for power delivery So you can do your laptop For me This is one of those things that I think would be perfect for an outlet that's not, you know, two feet off the floor if you've got one that's uh next to You know your kitchen counter kind of thing where it's up and and higher up Where you can like see the things at eye level ish that are in this Works really really well. So, um, I wanted to mention it now that I've had some experience with it because when I first saw it It was like, well, I don't know like how would that actually work? But you know, sometimes you need to touch things. So I wanted to wanted to revisit that so Um, so anyway, there you go. Okay 79 bucks. Yeah. Okay. That was my question. Yeah Oh, that's not bad No, that's the thing is like to do all of this stuff or even quite frankly if you've got an outlet at your desk That's like this that would be perfect because you could then plug in your laptop right there And now, you know, the outlet's still free for whatever you want. So yeah, it's it's it's great I could you know where I would love to see something like this is in a hotel If hotels are just buy these and screw them into the outlets on the wall and then just let you use it It'd be great. It could work next to the bed. There's all kinds of options here. So All right Um, yeah, that's what we got. Oh, uh, are we time to move on here? John? Is that right? Um, yeah, that sounds good. No, I was just looking at this. So it's not a battery. It's just a it's a power Power station. Yeah power station. Yeah, it's a power station. Okay But it really is like it's you know charge all your things right here. So yeah Um, all right Adam Brings us to a follow-up from last week's show, which we will use as a cool stuff found But we'll we'll dig a little deeper here. He says uh last week you were talking about measuring the electricity used by dormant chargers He says, uh, I use a kilowatt electricity usage monitor to check the power draw of any of my AC devices the display will show you will show you volts amps or watts There are many devices like it, but uh, but this one is mine So we'll put a link in the show notes to his Kilowatt, which is an amazon link and at the moment is 30 bucks. So it you know, it's got passed through And you're you know, you're good to go. So Yeah, thank you for that Adam and then on that subject john We had quite a few follow-ups to our discussion about monitoring and measuring power usage You want to share what jeremy had to say? Indeed. Yeah. So jeremy found something cool Um, depending on the divom or digital voltmeter Um And I have one and i'll talk about it in a bit here There are devices you can get to measure current without having to be in series called amp clamps Here's one from fluke one of the big names in multimeter. Yes Yeah, and you know, I filed it up on this div. So I looked at my multimeter and in fact it does have A setting for measuring ac current or dc current But the units are milliamps and looking further on it mine says 200 milliamps max. So You're probably going to blow fuse if you try to use a low-end digital multimeter to do this sort of thing. Yeah Yeah, interesting also, and it's kind of dangerous, right You know this now this makes sense the uh, and I I did not use that word intentionally, but the The thing that we had mentioned a few weeks ago the sense s e n s e Whole home power meter that connects to your electrical panel also uses these these amp clamps Uses two of them to measure power and all of that stuff. I I have one I need to I need to get a new circuit Like a third I think a 20 amp circuit to put in my power panel so that I can hook this whole thing up, but But I I will be testing that sense thing and I'm curious to report back But yeah, it uses amp clamps too, which is interesting. Yeah, so um and basically what it is if you look at it You you clamp so so you you know you squeeze it and then you put the wire in and then you release So it's basically surrounding the wire. I'm going to guess there's like some sort of sort of coil in there That's measuring current flow And then it has two of the little things that you plug into your multimeter and what it does is it does a down conversion So I think it's a thousand to one So because the thing is um, you don't want to display Like I said a lot of digital multimeters don't aren't able to Measure a lot of current so that's how they get around this with this particular device is they downscale it So that's fascinating. Oh I get it now Right. Yeah, and there's a whole bunch of different ones the ones he highlighted. So it's not cheap I mean, it's definitely more expensive than a multimeter Um, or maybe not if it's a good multimeter, but uh, yeah about 140 bucks Oh, okay. Yeah, all right, and it's and the one he pointed at which we think too has uh amazon's choice So, okay like it. I guess. Yeah, there you go. Amazon likes it Whether the people like it or not is a whole other story, but amazon's got four and a half stars. So yeah, that's pretty good actually Yeah, 225 ratings. Yeah, I'll take it. Yeah Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, right. So it down converts it. So it doesn't blow up your multimeter I like this idea. This is good. All right, and then uh, Jim a lot on the same subject Jim sent along a note Which I'm sure I will find here that links to a zd net article Where they went through all of this measuring how much electricity Things use and in their article, this was updated in february 2020 So current, you know current enough again pun intended on that one. Uh, they said that um The uh Where was the thing? They had a great little deal. He says according to my tests A genuine apple iphone charger uses somewhere in the range of 135 watts of power a month This is when sitting dormant which equates to just over 1.5 kilowatts kilowatt hours per year Which means that if I lived in hawaii, which is often used Because they have like the most expensive electricity like if you live in hawaii Solar is probably one of those things that will pay off in like three years. It's crazy, right? Um, and so he says which if I lived in hawaii that charger would cost 46 cents a year if I lived it left it plugged in doing nothing And uh, he says I'd if I decided this was way too much money and chose to move to louisiana where power is is um Much less expensive. He says I'd save a quarter so less than half Uh of of it would it would cost less than half, but you know, you're talking Not very much power Uh and then listener chip wrote in with sort of similar thoughts to this Where he says uh He says i'm in western north carolina reporting on the power consumed by chargers which do not have a load attached He says I happen to have a power meter It's similar to the kilowatt that adam mentioned his is the pony PN 2000 which is five bucks cheaper Today anyway at amazon than the kilowatt Uh, and he says it's which measures voltage current and of course watts It's supposed to be accurate to within a hundredth of watt. I measured an apple 20 watt charger and an anchor 20 watt GAN charger Gallium nitride and neither showed any power consumption on his meter Which means that any power consumed when not loaded must be under 10 milliwatts I tested a device plugged into load in this case an iphone 11 pro max Which hunted around uh between 14 and 20 watts until it talked to the phone long enough for pd to negotiate and stabilize Uh at the right power level, which was typically between 19 and 20 watts. He says uh, so uh, yeah, not Yes, things draw a little bit of pass. So to answer the question that came up two episodes ago Yes, things draw a little bit of power chargers draw a little bit of power when dormant But probably not nearly enough for us to have even Spent the time talking about it let alone you to spend time digging in and And and like unplugging them when they're not in use I I think unless you've got, you know thousands of chargers and maybe In a you know in a large office building Maybe this starts to add up but only maybe I mean even if you had thousands of these things you're talking Less than 500 bucks a year if your office building is in hawaii That that would be a thousand of them. I don't know if it's worth Instituting policy to save you know $496 or $460 a year for an office building of a thousand people, right? So, you know, you know what I mean like the I mean, I think where you probably get a good break even is the the the price on led bulbs have like Went down and a lot of times they're actually subsidized by the state at least in our state Uh, they're right. So that has just for everybody listening This is mr. John F. Braun out there in left field with very valuable information This really has nothing to do with your chargers, but you're absolutely right that moving to led bulbs is far Uh less power consumptive. Yeah, I mean I The thing is I was going to mention it last week and got a started surprise But um, yeah, I mean that's one where I think you get a good bang for the buck in an led bulb instead of incandescent or cfl because They explode or I've I had one explode on me actually Yeah, I've had cfl's explode. I mean it I prefer leds In in for a lot of reasons, but one of them is because they're plastic Uh, and so if they drop they don't tend to break Um, but uh, the housings are generally plastic Certainly, they could be glass, but they don't have to be like cfl's would um the uh the um The other nice thing about leds. I moved everything and when we bought this house. I I I put all Compact fluorescence in cfl's and uh And it was fine, but you know in the winter Especially if a room is cold or It would take the bulb a good few minutes to get up to full brightness And that's kind of you know that especially in the winter when things are sort of darker around here anyway That that was sort of a drag So moving to leds solve that problem now You turn on the lights and they're on and it took us all you know a couple of weeks to get used to Like walking into the kitchen and you turn on the light and it's like, oh, you know, it's full bright It's like, oh, yeah, that's that's different than I used to and of course the other problem with the cfl's was that they had To do what they do a small amount of mercury in them so you couldn't just throw them at the trash So I'm sure people have oh, of course. Yeah, well and even more dangerous when they break right now You've just released that small amount of mercury into the air and glass everywhere and I don't know Maybe there were cfl's that had plastic housings. I I never had any of them mine were all glass housing. So All right, uh, we have some questions from you We even have some follow-ups if we have time though. I'm not convinced. We will The next thing I'd love to do if uh, if it's all the same to you, mr Braun is I would love to talk about our couple of sponsors for this episode me too All right, look if you dread looking at your credit card statements surprise, you're not alone, right? debt can feel crippling but our sponsor upstart can help you on your path to financial freedom And that's because upstart is the fast and easy way to pay off your debt with a personal loan And you get to do it all online Whether it's paying off credit cards consolidating high interest debt or even funding personal expenses I don't know. 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I have this intermittent issue that I'm curious what may be the cause I'm running the latest big sir on a 2017 macbook pro Randomly when I click on an item in the window the window relocates slash moves to the current cursor position Example I've outlook open and I click on a message in the left column the window moves down into the left uh Also the top of the window is centered on the cursor I can't seem to find what will cause this behavior If there's some sort of key to the combo that would reposition a window under the cursor I feel like this is an accessibility item that is inadvertently being triggered So I looked through the keyboard shortcuts and other accessibility settings, but nothing jumped out I asked the co-worker and they also noticed this random behavior. Do you have any suggestions or ideas that may cause this random behavior? um I think I do Dave. So I'm with you. I I had the same thought Um, that is probably something in accessibility Um, though, I think he may have looked in the wrong place. So um And just a little story here one time. I actually accidentally enabled something called mouse keys Um, okay. Yeah, right. Yeah, here's how you enable it that I found out. I thought my keyboard was broken Because what happened is I was fiddling with my keyboard Uh cleaning it out or something like that and at some point I think I pressed the option key five times You know what that does that enables mouse keys What does mouse keys do do it takes it makes like a little keypad on your keyboard? And when you use when you do that it moves the cursor This isn't what what is happening in his case, but I just wanted to share the story that you may have accidentally enabled Something an accessibility feature where I would look Is the area where you may find this and so you go to system preferences accessibility pointer control And there's a number of options there. There's mouse and trackpad options and then there's alternate control methods I'm guessing something In alternate control methods may be enabled when you didn't intend it to be done Huh Yeah, okay. All right. Okay. So I I I couldn't reproduce the problem, but I'm I'm pointing I think your instinct is correct is that it's something in accessibility That you have to undo Yeah, I I have seen this too. Um, in fact What he's describing is at least very similar if not exactly the same thing as what I What you all heard me experience, uh, I don't know two weeks ago in the show I said john, where did you go? Are you I asked can you still hear me? And the reason I asked was because my chrome window, which is the one that we use for melon Which is the app that we do our our void call, but also the video call over Had disappeared from where I thought I had left it where I knew I had left it And and I found it all the way down at the bottom of my screen And so I you know brought it up and obviously we were still connected because you could hear me and everything was fine But I do see this happen occasionally where suddenly it's like my mouse is clicked down And things follow to my mouse. So I looked through my My settings here and I don't see anything that I have on but But you know It's like I don't there's nothing none of my alternate pointer actions are on or anything like that, but um I don't know it I I see it occasionally and I'm not You're not alone Brett. I guess is the best thing I can say Which you already knew because you had a co-worker sort of see the same thing, but Uh, did Brett say whether he was using A like mouse mouse or a trackpad because I don't that was my thought too. So Both my logitech keyboard. So I have third-party keyboard and third-party mouse and they both come with software So if you have a non-apple Input device. Yeah check that software. It may be you It may have enabled something unintentionally Well, and I mean I have a I have a it's actually a it's a wired mouse. It's a razor mouse r a z e r I've had it for a decade It was sent to me because it was some super hoopty high resolution gaming mouse or whatever And it's just lived here in the studio, but um It You know, it's wired in there is no special software on my mac for it or anything, but it is a mouse it is not a trackpad And uh, and so like maybe there's something to the just the physical function of using a mouse That sometimes when you click you're moving at the same time and it follows It thinks that you meant to do a click in a drag when you really just meant to do a click so with that in mind maybe go to system preferences mouse and um I'm trying to think of Is there a set I'm looking to see if there's a setting here There's tracking speed. There's scrolling speed and there's double click speed Not sure which of these would would would even matter for this Yeah, I don't know that there's a like a dragging speed. That's sort of the key Yeah mouse sensitivity magic mouse gestures make mouse and trackpad easier to use so Spring loading delay. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I don't have an answer I haven't been able to solve this it does happen occasionally And there were some jets that just went over my house John that that that noise if you heard it Well that noise if you're hearing it is John But if there was a noise you heard while I was talking it was uh jets going over my house There's a big air show at peas uh this weekend and so the jets are all coming in. Yeah, I know. I'm really stoked. So Um, we've already got our tickets So fun stuff, uh, hopefully that helps Brent. I don't know that it does. I think all we offered was solidarity You might want to try an app called stay by cordless dog And what stay does is it puts your windows where you tell them to be Now that doesn't keep you from moving them But it does allow you to store where you like them and then you can um Stay basically Remembers where a window should be and so when you relaunch that app or reopen that window Wherever it happens to land it repositions it to where you previously told it to go But you can also just go to this little stay menu item and say, you know, restore the windows for this app to Where I like to have them. So at least that lets you Uh, you know like here in the studio, I've got two monitors But it's really important for me to have things in exactly the right spot while I'm podcasting So that I know I can just click here and that's where this thing's going to be And so stay really helps with that and uh, and it may be able to help you So maybe that's the answer is to use stay Hopefully that Hopefully there's there's some value in there somewhere. I don't know man We feel you Uh listener brian wrote in with an interesting one And I love it when uh when a guess actually works So he says a quick question about the default email app settings in ios Now that we can choose a third party app for our email I have done so and I chose the email the gmail app. That's my default email app But when I click on an email address in safari, it wants to reinstall and launch apple's mail app How do I fix this so it simply launches gmail instead? So yeah, good question and The answer is Let it reinstall mail that will set the setting to mail in uh, you know in settings and default mail app And then you can go in there and set it to gmail and it will work something about there are times when It wants to see that default, you know that apple app on your device And I know it's a pain in the neck if you don't use the apple app Why have it there in the first place? Well, this is maybe why you leave it there But just set your default to gmail and then it'll be fine. So it's a Silly little ui quirk. I don't know if it still exists in ios 15 Uh because I use apple's mail app. I have moved all of my um devices over to the betas john I don't know if you've done any of yours yet, but like my daily drivers my phone my watch are all on the latest betas and my laptop my m1 air Is on monoray and I have to say I mean there are lots of things and we will talk about some of them Next week I'm sure as as we all prep to to get into ios 15 and and probably mac os monoray But when my guess is ios 15 we'll see first Uh, we'll talk about some of the things that we found But by and large super smooth transitions like the smoothest I've had in years You know, I always move over about this time So that we can have some experience here before you all get it and we can guide you as to whether Should you do it on day one? Should you not? You know that sort of thing and uh, This has been the smoothest. I forget that i'm running ios 15 I mean I see it because like the notification bubbles look a little bit different But in terms of stability and you know battery life and all of those things that sort of Matter at a fundamental level. It's been great and the same on my laptop again I I forget that i'm running monoray on it. I just I it is I pick it up And I use it Uh and and then I enjoy some of the new things and and uh in monoray so Highly at this point. I would say highly recommended so All right, um Anything more anything on that john before we move on to stelios john no, okay Stelios it is uh, he asks. I think this is going to be a geek challenge. I would love this Is there a weather app for iphone that can display the radar on my car's display? While connected with car play it would be nice to drive and be able to check the radar without having to reach for my phone Yes, absolutely armchair pilots would delight in this to cwx on our Uh on our phone screens in fact probably real pilots and maybe even people that don't even know that pilots like to look at stuff like this I would love to have it. Um, I in fact, I I sort of do have it john There are no carplay weather apps at least none that I've found But there is my um my Subaru outback. It's a 2018. Let's say I think uh it uh It has it has carplay, but it also has some sort of built-in Subaru apps starlink or I don't know something and one of the functions of that is Uh, whether it won't show me the radar on a map, but it will show me the weather either hourly or for the next three days Or you know, whatever it is. So I can at least get the weather On screen in my car But um, but it would be really nice to have you know, why can't I see like I would love to see Honestly, I would love it overlaid On my map app Because I want to see am I about to drive into a huge rainstorm for a long road trip That could really matter like oh, well, you know, should we stop for lunch? If the storm is coming through like that would be really handy to be able to see Um, it obviously apple maps doesn't have that google maps doesn't have that I haven't used ways in a while, but I'm nearly certain ways doesn't have that So surprise there's not a way to do this because doesn't carplay basically extend a Sub portion of your iOS apps to another screen. Isn't that what's happening? It essentially is a secondary screen for your phone But only apps that write themselves for carplay Will access that screen. So like your weather app is not written for carplay nor do I think it could be I think this is an apple limitation. I think apple has decided that weather apps can't be Carplay apps and so yeah Yeah, so I you know the apple doesn't want to they don't want to be they don't want the the news to be like Oh, yeah, you know yet another driver crashed and killed the pedestrian while looking at the weather on their screen, right? Like I mean, I'm sure there's some There's some You know scenario where that's been the decision. I don't know what the decision is But I would love this if anybody knows about an app that that shows it would be great. So Yeah, I would just like it like I said, I would like it in my maps app any of them. Yep. Yeah, and if you know of any Um feedback at macicab.com. I like to say feedback at macicab.com because you know what dave I'd like saying feedback at macicab.com as well I agree. All right Uh, craig pointed out an interesting little anomaly that is correct Uh, he sent us a screenshot of it on his mac. He went into system preference preferences He went into uh, his apple id and then looked at the list and sent us a screenshot of at least a portion Of the list of devices on the left hand side of the screen And he says I just observed that I have a roku Uh device listed there. He says this is accurate. I use it occasionally And I have logged into the apple tv plus app on my roku. So I'm assuming that's why it's here And uh, he says but it's just interesting because I've never seen a non-apple device on this list So I went in to mine and I see uh two tvostream 4k's because those are some fantastic devices If you need a device for your tv that tvostream 4k is uh, it's a great little um It's it's you know, it's like a roku or an apple tv or anything else. It's it's fairly inexpensive I think it's less than 50 bucks. It might even be less than 40 now. Um, but uh, you know, it's a streaming device It has nothing to do with like tivo as a dvr It has everything to do with you know, it's an android tv device. However It has tivo's interface on it which attempts to Pull together all of the sources of the shows that you watch so that you can just It gives you a show-centric view not a platform-centric view So you don't have to know oh, I got to go to netflix for this. You just say I want to watch the show So it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a fun little product. Um But anyway, uh the tivo stream 4k. I've got two of those listed I have my lg tv in the living room listed. I have an xbox one listed I have a samsung tv listed which tells me that even though I signed out of the samsung tv In our air bnb recently the one that we had in ashville apple still wants to see it and The other thing I noticed john So yes, it's accurate that anything you log into apple tv plus with you would show up in this list So no worries. Oh, okay. Yeah, um, but I also have two entries for the I'm back here in the studio and I'm assuming that's because Even though the serial number didn't change whatever the you know ud id or uu id or whatever it is That we talked about last week that caused me to have to you know re To my apps. So it's still logged in Well, it's just it's showing as a device that was used recently. I suppose. Okay is what that is. Yeah, so But it's still right here. You know, I've got it right in front of me. So there's only one of them But I did have a problem with like iTunes saying you've got too many devices or whatever apple music whatever It's too many devices logged in. It's like, no, can you stop that? Yeah, what I hate I've got a bunch of extra iPads And I know this is like first world problem But I have a bunch of like old iPads that are almost useless But they run the app that I use for our mixer The you know the the audio mixer that we use for like live Band gigs, you know And it's great to have a bunch of extra iPads so I can hand out to bandmates or or whatever So they can mix their own monitors their own in years or whatever and For whatever reason every time I I connect one of those devices to my apple id so that it can be backed up It also connects itself to apple music, which I do not want I am given no choice in this matter And then oh, there's another jet going overhead then it It takes up a slot and you only get 10 slots And uh in apple music for in that way and and then you can't like Stream your own stuff. It's the iTunes match portion of apple music So it's the iCloud music library. I guess is the real issue And it's a pain you have to go in and try and sign yourself out and I hate it. Anyway First world problems anybody but if anybody knows, you know feedback at mackeykev.com would be a great place to uh Tell us okay Hey, uh, perhaps the a helpful answer here andrew Sends in a question. He says A while back. I wrote you folks about a very irritating issue with space on my internal ssd and on my 2018 mac mini basically I couldn't do anything because the ssd was full I resolved that by copying the mobile documents folder from my user home to an external drive and then deleting it to free up space That opened the door to me being able to do what I needed to do and in the process I was able to familiarize myself with how to handle apfs volumes So my question is why did my mobile docs folder balloon to 256 gigs on my mac mini? I am in am I incorrect in thinking that there would be only files in there that had not Uploaded from a previous attempt at copying files to my iCloud drive. I have two terabytes of space in the cloud So space there is not an issue. I surmise it has to do with syncing mobile docs uh to iCloud so uh your mobile docs folder will either have a Full copy of your iCloud drive or it won't and I realize that's a non answer But bear with me here you get to choose so go in back into system preferences apple id where we were for the last question and then uh next to iCloud drive go to options And uh you can choose what things from your iCloud drive are downloaded there So that's one thing and if you've got something that you know, you don't need you can do that um you also uh if you kind of Hit done on the option screen at the bottom of the page where you get to choose all of the things using iCloud So you've got iCloud drive and photos and mail and contacts and all that stuff There is a checkbox that you can choose optimize mac storage If you check that then in theory mac os will Only store Locally on your mac the documents that it needs to store in order for you to do the work um and it will be intelligent about this and and try and keep things that it thinks you might want So that you have them at the ready, but it will jettison things that are taking up too much space that you're not using So I would highly recommend checking that box But if you want to really know what's using the space uh inside your iCloud drive local folder on your mac Uh, I would go to the terminal and issue a command and it's going to be a du command Um, and I will put this in the show notes at mackeycup.com. So you don't have to try and and uh Understand i'm not even going to read the full command the switches that we're going to use for the du commander s and h H gives it to us in a human readable format and s gives us the size, right? So we get to see how many gigabytes megabytes terabytes Any sub folder is using with the command that i've given here and and it it the end of it is the path to the mobile documents Father, which is just home library mobile documents, but um, but if you copy and paste that command into your terminal it will Regurgitate and reiterate and and recurse. There's the word I was looking for through all those sub folders and um And then and then you know give you an output that should show you which apps data Is chewing up all that space It's probably your desktop or your documents fold it fold it off. That's going to be my guess Um, if you have those stored in iCloud drive, if not, well, then you know This this will still answer the question, but it will perhaps be a more curious answer I don't know um, finally, um, if you look at the bottom of that screen There's a handy little uh graph That shows how much space various things are taking up and how much free space there is and then there's a manage dot dot button that will that's one way for you to get a quick view of hues taking up what in the cloud and you can Typically, you know, so to show you how much data like for example here photos is taking up 115 gigs. Okay. Yeah, that sounds right Sure, right. Yeah, let me show some other things. Um You may want to go through this area every now and then because every now and then i'm surprised some Some apps will assume. Oh, yeah, you want to put this in iCloud, right? It's like, no, I don't right, right Yeah, but maybe you do but maybe you do maybe they do I mean the nice part about an app putting its data in iCloud is that you can access That app on another machine can access that data sort of have settings that sort of sync themselves across iCloud Can Be a handy thing. It can also be, you know, pain in the neck. So yeah Good question though. I love that kind of stuff all right, um Yeah, that's just mr. Braun breathing into his microphone. Uh, that's not a jet at all the uh Yeah, your gain is a little hotter today or you're closer to your microphone today than usual or something changed Yeah, closer is not bad. Just just bear in mind not to you know, exhale into the uh into the element um Let's see what we got here. Yeah, kirit asks Uh a a a decent little question He says, uh in uh mackey cab 887 you mentioned that you do all of the syncing of dropbox google drive box, etc On your synology disk station and then just magically see them on your computer as a client So there is only one thing syncing on your computer's end Can you go through this one more time for us so that I can understand how this works? Absolutely. So, uh, this this only matters for synology users If you are not yet a son or if you're not a sonology user not interested in becoming one I highly encourage you to use the chapter skip Uh button in your podcast client We painstakingly go through and mark every question as a chapter so that you can skip around and skip back to or skip over things so yes Now on to the question The first thing I use on the sonology is cloud sync That is on my disk station And that's sort of the engine that makes all of this possible That syncs itself aka my disk station with all the various cloud services dropbox You know your box dot net and google drive and the cool part is if I happened to have two dropbox accounts I can sync both of them there, right? So it's it really does open up a lot of options And so I you you sync those and then you point them to You know a folder on your disk station that where you want it to sync And the nice part is at least from the dropbox side The cloud sync does not take up a client spot of the the valuable three free client spots that you get So that's also a nice thing uh And then um on my on my mac, but also on the sonology I set up sonology drive. It used to be called cloud station now. It's called sonology drive and it's a much larger app that does a lot of different things um Using the sonology drive admin console. I make sure I have desktop syncing enabled And then once I do I use the sonology drive app on the mac to tell it to sync Specific folders on my sonology with specific folders on my mac and that's where I'm telling it. Okay Go I put all of my cloud sync Destination folders on my sonology in one place So that I can just sync that one folder to my mac and inside that folder I have one called, you know, dave's dropbox and one called dave's google drive and you know those sorts of things So they're all just right there and of course the sonology drive lets you do selective syncing So if there's one thing that you know a folder or a sub folder that you don't want sync down to your mac But you do want sync to your disk station. No problem. You just uncheck it and just like a dropbox You know it doesn't appear and all that good stuff. So um That that's the that's the trick is is the combination of cloud sync to get that data onto your disk station And then sonology drive to sync Data on your disk station. It doesn't matter what it is to your computer And then you can pick and choose which stuff you want to do Hopefully that sends you and anybody else interested in the right direction Do you do anything of that sort john yet or aren't you using cloud sync yet? um No, okay No, i'm using but you know, I use all the you know dropbox Box, I don't use but I still use dropbox one drive Yeah, and Synologies Solution well, you could you could quit all those other apps and just use synologies if you take this path So which is a handy thing, you know, it's nice not to have to I got some free space from these other guys So well that but that doesn't matter. That's the beauty in fact Your free space it you don't you don't use The app on your Mac. So let's say you get free space from for anybody that doesn't understand Let's say you get free space from dropbox, right? Because you do and you're not using it, but you want to And so now you sync you never install the dropbox app on your Mac You go to cloud sync on your sonology and you sync that With dropbox, right? So that will now sync dropbox to a folder on your disk station And then because you're already using sonologies cloud sync or sorry, sonology drive You just point that at the dropbox folder on your disk station And now when you put something in the dropbox folder that sonology drive syncs It will sync it to your disk station and then from there cloud sync takes over and syncs it to dropbox and vice versa If like let's say you and I share stuff on a dropbox folder I put it in the dropbox folder It syncs to your disk station Via cloud sync and then sonology drive syncs it down to your Mac. So the beauty is you only ever have to configure Your cloud syncing play services in one place on your disk station And then they are always on your Mac and you never have to worry about what apps and keeping them up to date And do they conflict and do they use lots of cpu resources dropbox? And uh, you know, you can get all that crap off of your Mac. No dropbox's app is awful It like it uses more cpu. It kept my fans running on on my you know on my when I had fans Uh, it was awful. And so it was much better to uh, to just let that happen over on the on the disk station So, yeah, I especially if you're kind of the kind of person that likes to Take advantage of the you know, the little bits of free space that you get here and there from all of these cloud syncing services This is the way to go. Absolutely So, yeah, all right cool. You want to take us to nile? Uh, nile has Two I'll take a whack at this one, Dave. Okay Um, I'm trying to get all the forms to post a question. Is this a false alarm see below also Here's my don't worry about the form thing take take the second question. We don't have time for the first It's it's that's been dealt with that's one of those. It's a single person issue. So go go to the second one, right um I have a mac mini m1 running big sir and lots of hard drives doing video editing I use seagate go flex drive cases and the sata docking stations they sit on so I can swap drives easily I recently also bought a sabrent ec dash hd 2b dual bay hard drive docking station so I can format naked hard drives and easily back them up My issue is that when I format a drive using the docking station The drive is then not recognized when I put it in a case And use the go flex space to try to use the drive similarly if I format the drive In a case sitting on the seagate docking plate It will not be recognized if I put the drive into the sabrant dock And I get the pop-up asking if I know and if I want to initialize the drive I thought perhaps for some reason the older seagate go flex based my son in some way not support apfs Or large hard drives, but the issue persists when using three terabyte drives and wherever I use apfs Whether I use apfs or hfs plus formatting Huh Interesting. Um, I don't know if I got a good one here Dave. Um I mean, I don't know if one of the enclosures doesn't fully support apfs I would check with each vendor and see if maybe they got a firmware upgrade Um So that's one guess, you know, just check that out. Yeah And a lot of these uh devices not all of them like I've never used either one of these Um, but sometimes they have It may come with a special app that will let you do manage it In some way like maybe check for for new firmware and stuff. So Huh But honestly, I've never had I mean, you know, it should be a sata interface, right? I mean Well, the go flex drives are are they usb? Oh Right, um But no, I think yeah, I think one of the devices. Yeah, you you plug it into an adapter which ends But but the adapter is sata and then the connection I think is usb. Correct. Yeah, you're oh, yeah Yeah, you're right. Yes. Yes. Yes, right. So Yeah I mean, I think those go flex I I think those go flex Um things have been discontinued, right? I mean, I think they're they're old. So I I think your presumption that this might be a um This might be a you know a firmware of the Of the unit issue that's still really weird though um I would do is find a drive that does work in that go flex unit and then Open up disc utility And look at everything take a screenshot Of what that drive looks like in the go flex, right? You know and and see the formatting type the partitioning type The size like all of that stuff and then start comparing that to what the drive that doesn't work Looks like and you're gonna have to mount it in the sabrant thing, right? Because that's the only way it mounts and start comparing the two so you can you can sort of dissect it and say ah Okay, all of these other things are equal, but this one thing is different So and if is that if that is a thing that you can change like maybe the partition map type or something um Then maybe that's it or it might be that drives of that size aren't supported by the go flex like that that's a That's a thing we've seen happen So I seem to remember two terabytes being A cut off right point. I mean, I know the go flex was originally sold as like one terabyte drive So it's entirely possible that it's just not built to do what you're doing with it um Yeah, yeah, I don't know Yeah, and to get an idea of the lay of the land here when you do go into this utility make sure you click on show all devices Um, sometimes if you start it up it shows only volumes, but you want Uh, show all devices will show you almost everything Right. Yeah. No, it that I agree with that that it will show you most everything. Yep. Yep I thought there was something from the command line that shows you just a little bit more There probably is I mean you can do um D well There there is a command. I I don't know it off the top of my head where I I think it's a disc You till command that lets you that's what I thought that lets you see the container You know, I wonder if we take what we learned in a previous episode and go to the terminal And because I have it installed Uh, the tldr command I type dr tldr disc util Does it have an answer for me? Yes Uh disc util list will list all currently available discs disc util repair volume unmount disc and eject so I get four So what does disc util list tell me disc util list? Yeah, that's gonna that's it tldr to the rescue I love it. I love it. Man. What a great command if you haven't installed it Uh brew install tldr of course you need homebrew installed, but we'll put a link to homebrew in uh in the thing Homebrew and then uh brew install tldr I know we just did that two episodes in a row, but man that if there was ever anything worth mentioning twice That's at least one of them. All right. We barely have enough time for this last one, but I will uh, I will make it quick Because andrew asks Do you know whether m1 max are capable of running boot camp? Or is that long gone now and users should use either parallels or vmware fusion? I thought boot camp was still possible, but evidently that may not be the fact Yeah, boot camp is not currently and probably never will be possible on an m1 and that's And there's probably a million reasons for that But the biggest reason is you know, we're no longer running intel chips and that's what boot camp did Is it let you run other intel operating systems on your mac as a native os? That's essentially what what was going on there. So, um There is no more boot camp unfortunately, they're really While there still is parallels, um It's not what you think because it's not yet An emulation engine It is simply a virtualization engine, which means That you can run the arm version of windows under parallels, but you cannot yet Run the intel versions of windows and the arm version of windows is far less feature rich Then the uh, then the intel versions and then of course, there's all the apps that you're not going to be able to run So if you need to run windows stuff, the answer is get yourself an intel mac Um, I know that that parallels is is working to use rosetta 2 To and probably via more fusion as well To leverage rose apples rosetta 2 technology to do exactly what we would want it to do and emulate windows Um, I know we've seen demos of this, but I don't think you and me as users can get our hands on that Yet someone will correct us if uh, if i'm if i'm missing that particular boat So that's the uh, that's my story and i'm sticking to it. Hopefully that helps andrew I know it it doesn't it doesn't give you the answer you wanted But it gives you the answer you need and that's what um, that's what we do here at mackey gab. So We'll give you the answers you need You got anything else you need to tell them john Huh, I think i'm still part of the windows insider program. Maybe I can get it that way Get what that way Uh, the the the m1, but I don't have anything to run it on so The m1 version of windows Oh, yeah, you can I mean there's all there's tons of ways of getting that but it's it's uh, it's the arm version of windows Not the m1 version right right right just so that listeners aren't confused but also it's You still can't do it with boot camp right? It's it's part of You're the path that you would need to take into that is using parallels not some windows insider program You would need There's a very like hold your mouth just right and do it this way And I I don't even know that you and I get access to that yet So, um, yeah, it's it's still a work in progress. So Yeah, uh, and then mac beter while we're Stepping out the door here says what about wine? Well, what is wine windows is not emulation. I think is what it stands for right? No, what it's it's a recursive uh, uh Oh, what's the what's the name of of those types of words? Why can't it begins with an a anyway the word itself is recursive because what it stands for is wine is not an emulator Uh, uh, because wine wine was cool. It still is cool, but it only runs on intel So it wouldn't help on m1 because it's not an emulator It's also it also doesn't require you to run windows. It just let you run windows some windows apps Without needing them to run inside windows. It was actually a really cool kind of thing um But it was called crossover, right? Wasn't there a It was a commercial version of it called crossover or something But that I mean that that requires an intel chip. So no Unfortunately not gonna happen. So Yov'll thanks for listening everybody make sure to go fill out that survey That's the uh, that's our ask for this week The link is in the show notes, but you know what? 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That's what I got John you got anything else It looks like there is a version of wine for the m1 Okay, what apps are available for that though? Oh, that's the thing Okay, okay. It's harm's hardware has a little thing Interesting Yeah wine is 6 0 right What would it run though? Like I mean how many apps exist for arm Interesting All right. Well, see this is the this is the beauty of it This is we love this So, all right, we'll put a link in the show notes to that maybe there's uh, Maybe there are more answers here than than we originally thought 6.0 for m1 exists See this is why we love doing this show. We are but the stewards of this information No, this is great Yeah, I'd like to see an app list for it all right, well And they have they've released crossover 21, which is based on uh wine 6.0. So we'll have to check that out All right. Well, this is very exciting see See this is good. All right, folks. Thanks for listening. 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