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They've taken hundreds of millions from victims and now they're celebrating The scammers make so much they can afford expensive sponsorship deals to make their brands look reputable The fact that I sponsored leads football club I just took them as being a proper investment Platform that I just want to take your money off you There were tens of thousands of victims across the world a lot of these people were just like the rest of us There no scamming leads football team didn't they do that to the United Center too? There's like a group that like a fake like Bitcoin type situation where they did that as well Tough martyr no dumber There was never any chance for all those customers It's all a lie. I'll go undercover to find out how they convince people to invest We team up with a man who's been on the inside My life changed radically. I have to hide now and think about security We Join your poll raids on call centers selling the scam You don't understand anything. I'm saying even though you just responded to me in perfect English Did you know that this was a scam? No And we traveled to the former Soviet states where it all began I know who this guy is let's just call him mr. Red It took us over a year to peel back the layers of shell companies Hidden offshore to identify for the first time the big fish we believe are getting rich on misery Losing thirty thousand dollars to a bunch of scammers. I was Absolutely devastated by it And it's not like they're going after just big companies. They're going after People like little people to little fish thirty thousand dollars from a 60-year-old woman like that's the end of it for She's out of there. This is Jen. Who's this? My name is Simona wine glass and I'm an investigative reporter and I think I'm about to be scammed I Pretend to be a school teacher called Jen and I've signed up to a number of trading platforms to see how this scam works Sounds fantastic Software like this normally costs a fortune, but can I trust her? No, seriously that type of software that scans the trick good trade the bad trades 24 hours a week that could get you rich They sell in a dream. They knew what they was doing. And where where are you calling from? I'm calling you from London, UK. Oh, you're kind, but you have such an interesting accent Where did you where are you from originally? Oh? Well, basically I'm like UK I'm just Migrated here because of this job. We will be going to give you a senior account manager Who can teach you how to use the software successfully and show you how much profit you can make on a weekly basis? Okay, I Know all about call center scams. I've been investigating them for years Now I'm posing as a teacher who wants to make some extra income to help pay the bills I'm pretending to be Canadian as the scammers Because here in Washington DC a team of prosecutors successfully brought down one such scam Sending the woman running it to prison for 22 years How big was the problem at the time when you started investigating like why did you even not even gonna lie scammers are some of the worst people bro They appear on people's weaknesses They play on your situations and they just get at you for everything because they know you need it Some of the worst people and take it on just in the handful of Organizations that we are focusing on initially. There were tens of thousands of victims across the world I mean there was one victim hit reported losing $400,000 a lot of these people were like just like you know any of the rest of us They're no smarter. No dumber professionals quite a few people who worked for the government in Had long careers in the government who would ended up being defrauded by scams like this Three years ago. I was part of an international investigation with the Swedish newspaper Dagens Nieter for the first time we reveal the existence of a criminal group called Milton Now I want to expose the senior men really behind it Back then we discovered Milton's frontline were scam call centers Where hundreds of young people in Eastern Europe are recruited with promises of big money and a little luxury For each new victim they receive a bonus and a hefty percentage of the money they persuade them to invest Then the investigation had an undercover mole employed in a Milton call center in Kyiv, Ukraine When the investigation came out he went into not gonna lie, this is going deep day in Scandinavia Ain't that where the Avengers was shot like Yeah, I need to call a door for these scammers or something. He got you to witness protection We tracked him down to see if he could help us go further and identify the masterminds behind the scams We have to protect Alex's identity. We've changed his name and voice He's paid a heavy price for going up against the criminals in the Milton group and now has to live in a secret location away from friends and family Despite the risks, he's determined the criminals see justice I hope that with his inside knowledge we'll be able to piece together the clues to reveal how the criminals work During those months when you were undercover Were you ever scared? Yes, I was terrified of getting caught. It was very stressful Psychologically, I decided to stay there just to discover for public about this crime and to help police get evidence So even though there was a huge expose Involving dozens and years around the world Milton group is still operating Yes, think about it when you're exposing somebody this big they'll do anything to protect themselves Don't don't don't think they won't They will they still operating and They started to make bigger money As a student in Russia Alex was trained in cryptography He's now using those skills to follow the money In your estimation, how much money has the Milton group made since it started? About one billion about one billion dollars since 2017 You're saying 100% of people a kid kid They were scamming up they scammed a billion dollars and and when did this come out? This is five months ago. They scammed a billion in five years six years five years Man they move a while People lost money meaning they lost at least some of their money. Yes Not a single cent went into a real trade What happened to the money once people deposited in their account victims think that they have a real account with the company But there is not really any trading Just a simulation Fraud is larger than it's ever been Last year victims reported losing four billion pounds in the United Kingdom Most people never come forward. Oh, here we go. Hi. This is Jen. I'm so glad we're finally speaking With Alex's help. I'm now talking to the Milton scammers Patrick works for one of their brands Coynevo How are you darling? How is everything going? I wish all the best for you and you too darling. Thank you. Thank you very much So how is how is your day for today? I want to see what sort of promises they make to persuade me to invest How much money do you So since it's a scam they're gonna make it sound cushy every bit. They've done their research. They've they've scammed a billion They've done their research These kind of returns are impossible to promise To show how the scam works. I deposit $500 in Bitcoin and agree on another time to talk to Patrick The Milton group No lie it sounds like a typical scam like she's that first $500 in Bitcoin if it comes back with the return That's when they built that trust and they send more and then that's when they get that scam ran on them You know saying but you got to be at that level of trust. I don't know how the game go man. It's sad Has thousands of victims many lose much more than the BBC is allowing me to put in That's for the money to you. Okay one second. I'm on my way to meet Londoner Barry Burnett Who started making 10 pound trades after signing up with a prominent Milton brand Ever FX When he saw how well his portfolio appeared to be doing he invested more He told us he let his training advisor take control of his computer and trade for him This should never happen Then he started losing money And this is when the Milton fraudsters asked him to invest even more Put some more money in here. I'm double up if you put 25 000 pounds in then You could wipe out your losses and make a profit And I said no, I'm not doing that. Absolutely. No, I just want to just bring my losses down to a manageable amount And I want to get out and um, I must have got at least half a dozen calls from Half a dozen individuals in the space of about two hours. My phone just kept on blowing up Begging me basically to put small money in That's a red flag Well, you say no and they call you a billion times. That's a red flag, buddy He says he lost over 10 000 pounds. His experience fits a pattern What if I told you that we've spoken to insiders at the company and they told us it was all a scam I am horrified I'm numb. I can't believe this because I was never really going to get that back So I could almost think that the moment I put that 10 grand in their account. That was it. It was just gone, you know It's disgusting on every level You know, it's just it just makes me sick to think about it to be honest. Yeah I could just imagine that the the misery there they've inflicted on other people's lives So how do these companies pull it off? How do they get so many people? I know some of y'all know like like literally like getting robbed like point blank range strong armed or with a Or a Like it's it's pain like you know hard-earned money getting taken from you. This is the same thing Like you can cry like this is sent somebody into depression for real People to trust them the brand berry used ever effects became established through a high profile sponsorship deal with one of europe ever Effects became established through a high profile sponsorship deal with one of europe's biggest football clubs severe fc Here is how are these the same people that got uh the Miami basketball stadium to name them name them after them the same people Two of spain's biggest clubs It's match day Two of spain's biggest clubs are playing their local darby Over two years the milton group spent an estimated seven million euros with severe fc to promote their brand ever effects Including glossy promo videos like this So via even use some of their biggest players Craziest part about it is it don't take much money to do this video All you need is a Good camera with a great lens and a great editor and you in there You can fake this all day unwittingly sell milton's brand I didn't know much about trading but ever effects taught me everything I needed to know Forexam football are both unpredictable industries But these guys have all the necessary material to help out new traders like myself So thank you ever effects ever effects main global sponsors to be a football club Their sponsorship deal finished soon after the uk's financial conduct authority banned ever effects But not before they had ripped off 17 000 investors in spain alone Lots of the club's fans know people who have lost money on these scams On a side street, I went to talk to someone who also investigates these scams Mark Solomon's works for an australian investigations firm that tries to get money back for victims Thing with melton group is that they tend to sort of they'll they'll hit people up for a certain amount And then they move on and they kind of like to work in bulk I mean the ever effects logo. It's hard to imagine that most of the fans haven't been exposed to it It must be because it's giving them access to a particular demographic that's maybe Prone for gambling The brand awareness that these deals generate is essential in making these scams appear reputable We found that 40 percent of the english premiership Signed sponsorship deals with suspected scam brands outside the melton group. They got us y'all They got them. They got liverpool I can't believe we fail for that That's tough This includes chelsea everton fulham Leeds liverpool Manchester city south ampton and taunham They got taught them to demand them didn't ride The man didn't didn't go swooshed All either Investigated by regulators fined by regulators Investigated by police or banned by the financial conduct authority Including fxvc Who sponsored leeds united until 2021 when they were banned by the financial conduct authority While leads made promos like this fxvc scammed hundreds of thousands of pounds while using its sponsorship to look legitimate The idea that we've been manipulated by a company like that Would really make me sick to my stomach Quite upset because it was quite heavily advertised as well and it was also You you could do it off the website as well. So not very happy to be honest. Yeah After seeing that fxvc sponsored leads united Phil and Joyce invested one thousand pounds with them the call center soon got to work These words to me were I will take care of you as though you were my own mother One of the main things he was saying feel you do realize you're going to be a millionaire Despite the extraordinary promises the couple say they believed fxvc was a reputable crazy Now they got them out here window shopping They they hit different I'ma take care of you like you're my own mother. You're going to hell buddy Honor thy mother and thy father and you'll live a long you're going to hell That's tough You scamming your mom Why would they allow with that sort of company to support Leeds united a premiership football club Why It just doesn't make sense to me. So I took it at fx value that they were a good reputable company Phil invested more Betting 100 000 pounds at the price of bitcoin would go up and his account showed an 85 000 pound profit in a weekend So they put in what a pool. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no He's like 85 000 profit. I'm gone. See you I doubled my money. I don't want to risk it no more I'm about it here more and more He said all along that you can have your money out. There's no problem. Have your money out whenever you want But when they started losing money their account manager told them their balance had fallen below a threshold So to get their remaining money out, they would have to put more in So they did and then lost it all We had lost 341 000 pound Within seven days Oh, they don't care who they are You almost lost half a million dollars in seven days. Yeah, they Did you get your money back? How can you even begin to get their money back in this situation? They don't care who they take money off. They don't care I knew he was really deeply distraught over it and I knew he would be humiliated and ashamed He literally Pung on to me that day just apologizing and saying I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I was stupid. I was stupid Leeds United have got a duty of care to make sure the people they're associated with Are legitimate companies and not doing these sort of scams Leeds United told us As soon as we were made aware that FX VC had lost their license The agreement was terminated FX VC denied any wrongdoing and told us they fully complied with the ruling by the fca The Premier League clubs that responded said deals were ended early were not renewed or that allegations against the potential scam companies Only came after the sponsorship deals had ended And Seville FC told us that once the contract ended there was no more contact with ever FX While these shiny videos may be history Of course, they're not taking accountability. They don't want that on they on they resume You know, we didn't know all these allegations came after after us. We didn't have no idea No one to date from ever FX or FX VC has been prosecuted for these scams One of the reasons is that criminal investigations are highly complex Expensive and the scammers seem to always be one step ahead In Britain, none of the victims we've spoken to have had their cases pursued by the police Oliver Bolo was a reporter in the former Soviet Union, but now writes about money laundering and the offshore world Am I surprised to hear that The British police have done nothing about these reports. No, that is weirdly familiar If you're famous they'll take an interest, but if it's just you know Mr. and Mrs. Smith have lost their retirement savings 40 grand 50 grand 60 grand Send in a report and yet nothing will happen Oliver believes that the scammers hide behind a complex series of offshore companies to protect their true identity At that point it's a publicity thing. Everybody's scared about publicity. Somebody famous would get the publicity on you to have the reach The average Joe smoke does not have the reach The If you are coming at it as an investigative journalist or more likely as a law enforcement agent You have to go to every one of those jurisdictions write them a letter a formal process and then Receive information about the ownership of that company that may take you six months may take you a year It may not be possible at all So the point of the complexity is to make things incomprehensible and essentially to try and force other people just to give up I'm not about to give up But I do need some help I'm not even gonna lie to you. I can hear it in her voice that she is determined She is the type that say i'm gonna get you fired and she is going to get you fired. I hear you You this is you got your perfect job, ma'am In a sleepy town in germany. I've heard the fight back against milton is underway It's an unlikely hub for the high tech fight against the scammers The cyber crime unit here in contrast to the uk is making arrests across europe and beyond Using digital techniques the team can follow the crime through the dark portals of the deepest parts of the internet And chase down those perpetrating it It's directed by public prosecutors Methodically gathering evidence and forensically tracing the huge sums of money it generates They are operating like professional legal companies And that's what we say. This is organized crime And how much money are some of these large shocking that they can operate like that and not be legal and nothing really be done Like immediately like I don't even understand. It's just when you get to a certain level of money It you almost can be undurchable You know what I'm saying? That's that's sad Larger organized crime groups bringing in probably hundreds of millions per year Investigating financial scams like these means following the money So let's say we have one victim of whatever platform and we know he Transferred his money to this bank account of whatever company here in germany And then we have all the transactions of the company of the bank account And we see there are so many other victims from germany and austria and great britain and france Who all send their money on this bank account? But those cases are still unreported and our biggest problem is that we only see the reported cases Their investigation is making headway Last year they seized these assets from another criminal group who also operated investment scams But the methodical gathering of evidence takes years In the very beginning we weren't sure at all whether we will identify any suspects and that there will be any arrest ever But after three years we see there are dozens of arrests and we were able to identify really huge networks of scammers I wanted to know if the prosecutors were aware of who was behind the militant group. So I had to ask Who were the big bosses of the militant group? No comment. No comment Good evening. Hi. Wait, but why no comment? Is it too early in the investigation? They still doing a research or something like why no comment? Yes, you are you're speaking with jen Okay I've been passed up the chain to a retention manager They try and they best All her initial investment was five hundred dollars. I guess every penny counts for them It's the same job that stepped the chain to a retention manager It's the same job that alex had while working in the call center in ukraine Then he sold a few different brands But he has since discovered many more that follow the same pattern He unearthed scores of different brands But they all had identical sign-up pages Exactly the same wording in their terms and conditions and exactly the same login pages alex has then discovered that they all share the same unique code in their design And the same online deposit page where clients can choose to invest with dollars pound You know, it's crazy because if you're not looking that hard, you're not going to find this It really takes an investigation group to come through and do this Like to the average joshmo. They're not looking at all of this They're not running it up against other pages and checking for similarities and things of that nature They're just trying to double their money quick and easy or cryptocurrencies EverFX has the same sign-in page and the same code and the same script and the same structure as all these other websites So you're a hundred percent sure. It's a Milton group website. Yes. I'm hundred percent sure Okay, let's look at how many brands are there total Wow It's a huge brand network, but are there any other connections? We decided to follow the money Like me a lot of people now hand over bitcoin And bitcoin is on a public ledger Which means you can follow where it goes So it should be simple But it's not Because there are thousands and thousands of crypto wallets that channel the money When I started this journey, I put my money into the brand coin Evo Victims have been doing this for years Putting money into other brands Including ever FX The brand that scam bury The money then moves through a complex system of wallets But ultimately ends up in just a few dozen We suspect owned by the people behind the scam We don't know for sure who owns these wallets But mapping this network is useful because it shows these brands are linked We saw my coin Evo money joining a money route from ever FX Here I feel like it just basically made a huge Like pyramid scheme Sort of look like That's what it looked like and sound like before continuing through to the rest of the network So this is a trade that I opened And I'm not like doing so well. I'm kind of like in the red I've been trying to contact coin Evo But I've heard nothing back Perhaps they know who I really am or are only interested in people who've invested more Antoine still doesn't get back to me. So I decide to cut my losses and withdraw my money Then I get this email Hi, Jenny The passport you've sent us is a fake. I assume you know this So go f*** yourself pretty pleased with sugar on top Despite chasing I never got back the money that was still in the account Well, no, they wasn't sending out emails like that Ain't no way They was really playing games at that point. She's doing this for investigative purposes and she looked at sick Like she looked at blue. She was over it So how can we find out who's behind these crimes? When Alex the undercover mole worked for Milton He recorded their 2020 New Year's Eve party with a secret camera in his watch Are there clues here about who the Milton group masterminds are? The audio reveals a man called David who was crowned the father of Milton I worked on the first investigation We identified this David as George and national David Todua To simplify the complex connections in this network. We're going to give him a nickname Mr. Orange These are photos from his now deleted Instagram feed Showing him at the party with other senior figures of the Milton group And him posing with guns So where does Mr. Orange fit into the wider Milton organization? Two years after the party. He has an office in a new call center in Kiev Selling Ebra FX and other Milton brands Ukraine is clearly important for their whole operation But they like everyone else were about to get a shock Ukraine was invaded. I was just about to ask like since Ukraine is such a hub for what they got going on How did they wore the invasion effect them? But they got it covered And Alex keeping an eye on scammers from his hiding place Was seeing evidence online that call center staff were fleeing the war I have not been keeping up with that situation and that looked gruesome. That's tough One place he's seen job adverts is in the former Soviet republic of Georgia I've come to the capital to Belize to meet local investigative reporter Nino Bagratze Hi, how are you? So Nino, we've come to Georgia because we think that this has become one of the hubs of the companies behind the call centers Are you sure it's like a current information? We have an insider who thinks that they're getting people in Ukraine to relocate to Georgia A few months ago, uh, there was a big scandal related to the call centers and the prosecutor office shut down several offices But since then we know that the area is clean and the call centers move the way from the country There was the investigation. You might have thought wrong, ma'am She's here telling you Don't get offended. Like let's check it out. Let's investigate Story You can see the I know who that is Titian Yes, I know who this guy is. His name is Mikhail Benimini I've investigated him before Benimini was charged in Israel with tax evasion, but never showed up for his trial I think that we need to investigate for ourselves Own research shows that Mikhail Benimini. Let's call him Mr. Red Registered an early Milton brand cap MB. So this suggests that he's been involved for a long time I'm curious, but it doesn't take me no long to come back with more Nice to see you again She's found evidence of a call center and it's active You're right It's called MG capital MG capital the company founded by Yosemite Geladze four years ago I found his ID scan and his email address in the business registry and I ain't gonna lie She be putting that on she be fresh I ain't gonna lie. She got a little fashion sense, don't she? I have a contract of rental agreement Which is signed by Yosemite Geladze and he signed the rental agreement in 2019 We identified Yosemite Geladze's profile on Facebook Then we found out the people on the photos So we found out the person who worked at the call center and we persuaded her to talk to you We met the young woman who'd worked at MG capital in central Tbilisi She doesn't want to talk on camera. So we're not showing her face and have changed her voice Even now it is really hard for students to find a new job with a good salary when I started this job I didn't know what we were doing in reality. I thought we were helping people but when I Get to understand what the really was going on. I really felt bad for those people who get scammed Ivana was told to choose a fake English-sounding name and never revealed that she was calling from Georgia She was selling a Milton brand. It felt really good that I could get out of there Before I could do something bad to someone But who is Joseph Megaladze or Mr. Green? Can his other business links tell us anything about this network? We already know that he founded and used to own MG capital We got Mr. Green and Mr. Orange And is that red? Seems to have sold Milton brands But Mr. Green also founded this company Its directors have included two men who seem connected to the network This guy, Mr. Blue, owned a company called NASPE which has provided tech to the Milton group brands A company that he sold to Mr. Orange, the gun-loving David Todua And together with Mr. Pink, Mr. Blue is senior in EverFX as well as other crucial Milton tech companies And finally some of these key companies operated from the same building that housed Mr. Orange's new Office in Kiev. This is all looking very cozy I was just gonna say it was kind of confusing but when the stream panned out it got clear All right, all right, I'm following Your world is opaque with some people spending a fortune Deliberately muddying the waters of their operations But they can't be sure that the past will stay buried forever As the world wakes up to the revelations of the Panama Papers Back in 2016, millions of documents that were meant to be confidential were leaked They revealed the true owners and inner workings of directors of hundreds of offshore companies They were called the Panama Papers So let's go back in time and see what the leak can tell us about our people of interest Four of them are there They have a history together and appear to be running a network of non-milting companies across the globe But many of these companies have something in common They're linked to an office block in Tbilisi called the Pixel Building The paper trail ends here Not gonna lie, I'm good. I like how stuff be built sometimes. It's a raw building. I ain't gonna lie to you It's a shame But Nevertheless Throughout all of our Panama Papers investigations, we've analyzed thousands of offshore documents And one person appears to have founded or registered many of these early non-milting companies Mr. David Kesreshvili But who is this Mr. Kesreshvili? He's a former Georgian politician He was defense minister during the war against the Russians in 2008 When he left office, he started his business career Based in London, he can't return to Georgia as he was found guilty of corruption And what he claims is a politically motivated case Accepting this the British courts refused to extradite him In Georgia, he's remembered by some as Mr. Offshore And the leaked non-milting company data shows he sat at the center of this network of offshore companies Our men were given senior positions in these companies, which Mr. Kesreshvili registered all over the world Multiple roads seem to lead to him Oh David, she's knocking at your front door. Okay This is like a drama series like You know what I'm saying with lots of turns and loops and you gotta pay attention or you're gonna be confused We've been invited back here by Europol who have zeroed in on some of the same people as us And now we're joining them on call center raids Simultaneous actions are taking place in Ukraine, Albania Now pulling up to where they are Catching them red-handed That's like them those P. E. D. O. Stings When you catch them red-handed and show them their emails or them pictures and things of that nature This is what this is going to be correlate to in my mind I'm just trying to connect dots and see what's similar F and North Macedonia We have no idea where we're going. We were told to follow the car in front of us The last time they did a raid like this the bosses of the call center were tipped off So everything depends on secrecy We've driven into this parking garage and the German A lot of them in some nice buildings, nice architect type, you know what I'm saying And Georgian police are coordinating their actions Um, the prosecutors have just walked in but he told us that the place has already been secured Would you like to speak to us about what what happened here? You don't understand anything I'm saying even though you just responded to me in perfect english Did you know that this was allegedly a scam? I'm not wishing you to take this video right now, and I'm not responding on your questions What what was the brand that you were selling here? Are we sitting? Are we sitting? We are quite happy with the situation right now as far as we can Examine all the materials and the people we see some evidence as clear evidences for a german desk As far as the german market is targeted and obviously we see quite good hints to such Yeah, these ain't like the call centers i'll be seeing Sometimes on youtube this is like a this this is official looking like, you know Like the rest of everything they got going on The Milton group Activity here cross georgia activity here Right now there are 30 raids across georgia in the center of tbilisi. They're hitting a company. We already know mg capital these screens are really interesting here you have a back office of a brand called eco sales and You have the names of people that they were calling to get money from them and here you have four British names here So you can see that this is just a call center that was allegedly scamming people all over the world And let's see if we can see how much money they got from various people Looking through our footage afterwards. I found a note No liabilities wants to buy a property not discussing number, but has savings Savings less than 10k. They're a Should scam soon For the german prosecutors, this has been four years in the planning and now they've time talking about red handed to reflect We know that of course for example the fca in great britain say scams are the biggest threat For private investors, but on the other hand we see due to our actions and our investigations in the last years That there are also some positive effects that the perpetrators Are more careful and at least do not target the german market As much as they did maybe two or three years ago The overall damage is still in the hundreds of millions. Probably we can talk about billions That's crazy, man Because like like the local scammers in the neighborhoods, you know, they move from When the city's got tighter and they found out they just moved to a less more a more a lesser Developed city and they run the same stuff. But this is such on a high scale. They just move into a a lesser country To run the scam on the entire country is crazy Not only in germany, but all over the world We noticed a lot of british victims on the computer screens in the call center If you ended your investigation Where would that leave them? We have to be realistic. We can't save the world It's It's already pretty hard work to to save the german market There should be some kind of law enforcement in great britain as far as i know, so that's their main responsibility and To see it from a from a legal perspective. It's not in our jurisdiction Raids love the news in georgia Megaladze is our mr. Green he gave a press conference after one of the scam brands was raided in an office he owns He says that his company rents out Yeah, I was just about to say like you can rent out a space and not know what's going on in that space They could tell you one thing and a whole another thing could be going on So I don't know if we could like Dlaim him for anything, you know, this isn't the offices to other companies, but he doesn't know what the company Who rents the office really does So wait, he's saying that he was just renting space to another call center, but he owns mg cap Yes, we know that he found it then Ah, yeah, buddy. No, you can't you can't escape this and also he mentions that He was a partner business partner of david kezer ashwily So we know that the links between these men go way back Thanks to the panaman papers league Then the pattern was that kezer ashwily was the link between our men But if the real links were confidential before Might they be confidential again? So fast forward to the present The men all seem to have been key figures in the milton group Running or owning tech companies and or the scam brand ever effects But does kezer ashwily fit in now? Well, he's not really on the paperwork This is what we can see He's connected to this company Which used to own ever effects through his venture capital firm He owned the branding and website for this tech company Which built the trading platform and website of ever effects The email servers for his personal companies were held on the same private servers as those for ever effects axios and new age He owns the building in kiv where the original call center was moved to in 2020 and where they sold ever effects And where mr. Orange had an office where many of these companies were housed And which was rated in the europeal action in ukraine And this gives us a hint of kezer ashwily's social circle At a wedding in 2018 He was pictured with mr. orange And mr. red as well as other key milton figures He also has interesting social media connections kezer ashwily regularly likes and shares Facebook and linkedin posts from several tech groups as well as from ever effects and its successor axios And his facebook friends have included at least 45 Okay, people gotta stay on that internet get off the internet Well, this this is you can't even get off the internet with this this company but But like your personal stuff like they watching everything and other people linked to some of these companies and of course He's also facebook friends with mr. Pink mr. Blue Mr. Green and mr. Orange And mr. Red Well, that's his cousin We went to mr. kezer ashwily's 18 million pound house in london To see if he could answer these questions about his role Hi, um, i'm a journalist. I'd like to speak with david kezer ashwily. Is he available? He's not he's not available Okay, thank you very much. Okay. Bye. Bye He wouldn't talk to us But his lawyers make clear that mr. Kezer ashwily. I ain't even gonna lie. She didn't try that hard Strongly denies any involvement with milton or that he gained financially from scams He says that ever effects was to his knowledge a legitimate business And that connections we have found to the people and it behind it proved nothing I mean, I guess it really do per prove nothing. It's just like hearsay at the moment Do you feel me? And mr. Gogashvili strongly deny our allegations saying that ever effects is a legitimate regulated platform They deny knowledge of milton or any connection between ever effects and the brands we identified who they suggest have misused Its source code and brand to confuse users They say ever effects has never had a crypto wallet and has no control over how its third party payment processors direct funds Mr. Megalazzi said I completely deny these allegations. I am not involved in any way with milton I have never owned call centers or any other businesses engaged in miss selling financial products Neither mr. Benny mini nor mr. Toadua responded to our questions Ever effects denied our allegations saying that they are a legitimate and regulated platform where risks are fully explained They Know the crazy thing is they could have did all of this then became legitimate at one point or you know, they got Was not a legitimate became legitimate dinners legitimate again It's they they they got so much They got such a windy road of a paper trail like I don't you can't connect this to like in a court or in a courtroom Plus they got money for lawyers like in a courtroom. It's I don't know The investigated barry's case you can get me though is responsible for his losses In our anonymous case. They told us her losses were as a result of her moving to an unconnected company And that they fully cooperated with the fca The investigation alex and I started has culminated in police raids on milton offices across five countries closing down 15 call centers But only five suspects were arrested in those countries. I'll just employees Which is little consolation to the victims of milton I feel completely embarrassed at how How well I was fooled. I just don't want my friends to know How stupid I've been I've always worked really hard for everything I've earned in my life Losing 30 000 dollars to a to a bunch of scammers I was absolutely devastated by it. I just don't Feel that I could confidently trust anybody again I don't blame her or yeah, I mean It's taken us well over a year to uncover the identities of some of the biggest players We believe are involved in this billion-dollar scam Waiting through this complex and sophisticated tangle of shell companies digital evidence and crypto wallets We felt able to name them for the first time Since the raids alex has been tracking milton's crypto wallets So their volume is lower The volume is lower So that means the raids have had a big impact. Yes I think it is because we see a very significant decrease in the turnover Good for victims good for victims So the raids did have an impact They probably have a slight impact. They have a momentarily momentary moment Moment Like they impact for a moment But then they regroup and getting smarter, you know what I'm saying it has to be stopped fully all at once But our recent analysis suggests the scams are picking up again Now at nearly 85 percent of what they were So can this billion-dollar scam ever be stopped? the money that flows From these kind of crimes through the offshore world into the pockets of a small number of people Is so attractive and so corrupting That it's incredibly hard for any society in any political system to conjure up The way we thought to stop it For a month after the raids We're not aware of any prosecutions of any of the people we've identified But alex and I are not about to give up You know it's crazy the people in charge are supposed to be prosecuting and looking and solving this case They'll they've probably seen this They probably couldn't execute right now because they want to take credit for it You know if they watch this they're gonna do that then try to you know, I'm saying they got to do they do diligence as well You hear me? Plus they don't want to give credit It's a huge find You know what I'm saying man Let me know if you had anybody close to this and got affected by it man T.L.O. leave a like comment subscribe tell me I'll post them down