 Okay, so here we are in central London. I've got this sign here and we're going to see how the public react See if the people on the bus can read it. You agree a first person had a 400 You agree do you agree do you agree with me you do That's two agrees we'll see how many people we can get to agree. Do you guys agree with me? You do agree. Oh, wow Do you agree, mate? You agree you agree, okay? Really you agree It's more than cruelty. Wow She said it's more than cruelty. Wow, it's murder too Maybe I should say it's cruelty murder violence Agree Vegan for the animals brother agree agree agreed There's got to be about at least a hundred vegetarians walking past me. Everyone agrees agree No meat forever, mate agree Disagree agree Agreed mate Well, that was a really positive handshake. I'm sorry Agree do you agree Definitely gets people thinking though like I don't know how you could argue with it like agree Is what it is a agree It's a good way to reach about a few hundred people in like five minutes really with a message Did you see all their reactions to that feeling shaking my hands and shit like yeah, someone shook my hand didn't you get that? Oh, yeah, yeah That was everyone read it So I guess it's effective in just getting a very clear message out to people and you can tell they wanted to say something A lot of people I might try to go somewhere where we can open up more discussion with people I just feel like it's not it's not really a way of opening up discussion. People want to keep walking It looks like there's some blood on the floor over there as well. I don't know what that's wrong I was just wondering what do you think of this sign? Do you like it? Are you a vegan? I was just wondering do you think it is animal cruelty there? Feel that that method works better, right? It's just such a bizarre thing to do like to walk up to someone with a sign and go What do you think about this and it just says that like other way? Like no lady before she felt like I've got somewhere to be she said There's our experiment to do. I don't know how people react to something like this There's a big pub full of people over there. It's always a bit more dangerous because if any drunk people see you filming them, maybe Not feeling it either do you know excuse me. I was just wondering what you thought about this sign I found on the floor Do you agree with it you agree Wow What do you think of it mate? Found this on the floor. What do you think? Do you agree with it that statement? How the animal is treated during its life, I guess But the way the animals killed is also kind of essential. Do you think the way he makes it cruel just killing makes it cruel? It's kind of stupid because is it cruel for a lion to eat a f***ing zebra? Well, I don't know is it cruel for a human to stab and kill a dog and eat them It would be cruel because we have a morality, okay Lion's don't you killed that animal if you killed it where it didn't feel any pain You wouldn't think that's cruel. No the dog killed a dog without feeling pain. That's okay Kill a person without them feeling pain. That's okay. That's not cruel But like what about an innocent person What if they didn't feel it I would still be murder would it be cruel though to take someone's life Yeah So what about the animal versus it's not cruel That's weird, isn't it? There's a double It's like we have a double standard. Don't we yeah, but then again We have empathy a high level of empathy for humans Because they're human as well. Yeah, it's obvious that The more intelligent an animal is Or perceived by us Do you think intelligence should dictate our moral treatment of other beings like I think we should base our moral status Or the way we treat people morally by their intelligence or their or animals by their intelligence level or Some of us are smarter than others some of us have Disabilities some of us are different races and but there are different. Yeah, so you wouldn't treat someone differently based on Wouldn't take their rights away from people who are less intelligent We wouldn't kill less intelligent humans if they were the same Cognitive function of a cow. Yeah No, of course not. Yeah, and there are humans that do have mental disabilities or something like that You know, we wouldn't treat them different. We wouldn't take their rights. We're killing them Yeah, like other cultures our cultures It's bad for the environment Because because we're at stake basically because it's our survival that's that stake we talked about empathy before like Do you think we should extend that empathy to animals that can't speak for themselves and we you believe that cows chickens and pigs can Feel pain and supper. Yeah You said you want a humane treatment. Yeah, like it does obvious You realize that something is wrong. Yeah claiming that only humans can Have that experience or science shows that we animals. Yeah so Even if so I asked you if you kill a human and they didn't feel pain whether that would be cruel to rob someone of their sentience You said yes, but it's not cruel to rob an animal of their sentience because they're less intelligent Is that where you're sort of standing with that? Like, yeah, if I I guess like if we had to go back to Do we have a choice? Do we have a choice here to eat animals or not? Have you seen It's in the footage If I do You'd feel upset and you feel It's against your values and would it make you feel conflicted inside because you consume me and yes You might feel compelled to change the same way as if you had to see watch a video of a cow being slaughtered every time you bought burger or Lord of the can so yeah the same way Cigarette packets have to have horrible Like pictures of them and stuff if that was the same then people wouldn't Do you think people would become more morally culpable like more morally responsible for their actions Back then we had to do we killed each other back then too But it doesn't justify murder now does it like yeah people use the hunt to gather a thing to justify our actions now Do you think that's logical? You're a brother really good at having conversation now take care man Here take this this is called land of hope and glory if you ever want to watch it This is about the environment and health, but this is all English Current footage How they raised treated killed it contains red tractor approved everything like that They're gonna be harmed more Well their products at the end of the day you're not really and even humane Killing him and eating him I mean thanks brother You too mate, but you know what one of the best conversations I've had for a while mate