 Yeah, Coach, just wanted to talk a little bit more this week about the pass rush and how things are coming together. Had a couple big plays, Grady's, Sack, and Dante's late. Where are they at? And was that progression last week that you saw? Well, I just think that the guys are keep working on the stuff that we do. We're trying to kind of do the same things over and over so we can learn to do them. We aren't going in there. And I've learned from past coordinators and talking to guys over the years, guys that have been really, really good defensive coordinators in the past, that when you're trying to build something, don't start going off the deep end and, OK, this isn't working, so we've got to change that. And then we've got to change this and you've got to change that. You end up changing all the time. Nobody ever becomes good at anything. Sometimes you've got to go through some growing pains to get what you want. I can name a lot of defensive coordinators that you guys all know and would probably put in the top four or five defensive coordinators, maybe of all time. And sometimes they struggled for a season out with their scheme. And if don't believe me, look it up. And so you need to stay with the stuff and get good at it and not just jump all over the place because then you're never going to get good at anything. So I think hopefully we're going to keep getting better and better at it. Is maintaining Russian lanes a big part of that and knowing where everybody's at in their effort to get to the quarterback? Well, it's all that stuff. It's pressures, making sure you have gap integrity when you run a pressure. Because a lot of times it's not the pressure that it actually does is the offensive line that maybe messes it up. But if you're in the right spot, then let them mess it up and then be right. Don't guess and go in the wrong. Think you're doing something that you shouldn't be doing. It's the loving guys always working together, whether it's coverage, whether it's getting the quarterback to hold the ball a little longer and up for another step on the pass rush. Or it's always hand in hand. It's never just one thing. And it could be foreman, rusher. It could be pressure or simulated pressure. It doesn't matter. It's all the same thing. Who taught Grady that swim move? Grady. Yeah, I don't think anybody needs to take credit for that move. That was Grady. I don't know about game planning when you don't really know what they're going to do when it comes to Kurdistan. It was such a conversional piece. What is that change, I guess? Well, the biggest thing to me right now is us. More than it is almost somebody else. You always have tendencies on teams, whether it's a certain guy or something or a certain quarterback can do this and a certain quarterback can do that. And you try to make the guys aware of it. And obviously, you always try, as a defense coordinator, to put together a package that's going to try to take that away. But at the same time, it's really more about us playing our positions and really learning them and seeing something over and over and over and over again. And pretty soon, that's how you learn to play it. And if you just see something one time in practice, and it's hard to, say, tell the guy go out there and perfect that on game day on that one playing if you've always seen it one time. You can't take away everything. You've got to try to take away what they do best and try to execute. You know, we talked last week a lot about the zone rate and how you have to look better the second time around the defense against it. Do you feel like the defense is a whole took a step? Not even just against that, but by learning? Sure. Absolutely. Does that make sense? Maybe that wasn't the best reason. That makes perfect sense. Absolutely. I showed them some Philadelphia film last week. OK, if you think this team is not going to do that, when Philadelphia had success with it, this is a copycat league. If you think that always a coordinator not looking at what Philadelphia did and said, we can do that, and we don't correct it, absolutely. I showed them Philly film, not much, but a little bit of stuff that we did not do well, didn't do assignment well, and we had to coach better. And so, and luckily, I think a couple times that they did do something that Philly did, we seem to be on top of it. So it's that sort of thing that's coaching. I mean, I was talking to Stephen Means yesterday, and he was kind of talking to that about how it was one of those things where they wanted to take ownership of being able to stop the escape, because that was such a big part of the Philly game. I mean, how much do you think to that end you did see guys kind of take over that ownership of being like, you know what, we need to get better right here in this spot? Well, I think a lot of them. I thought, you know, I saw guys, even during the week, I thought guys were much more in tune to exactly what we wanted and what we had to do, and this is how, this is what we got to do to win the game. Here's our keys to the game, and we need to execute our keys. If they beat us some other way, if they beat you left-handed because, okay, we never seen that ever, and they throw something at you that you've never seen, hopefully your keys and your technique and all that stuff will carry you through. But if all of a sudden they change offense, but in this league, you know, teams aren't gonna change the offense. I mean, if you're an offensive coordinator and you're going in after a loss, be like a defensive coordinator. Okay, if we went in and all of a sudden decided to change everything, the players would look at you like, why did we just practice all this other stuff for eight weeks? I thought it was supposed to be good. I mean, you'd lose all credibility as a coordinator for doing something like that. So guys aren't gonna change a lot. I mean, most coordinators in this league, basically offensive coordinators have a playbook about that thick and they can go to a lot of different stuff. But I thought the guys tried to take ownership and try to really, even during the week, I felt that going into that game. I also wanted to ask, I'll talk a bit about Boye specifically. And I was just curious, from your perspective, how do you feel like his, how he sees what's happening in front of him, like his vision, like how do you feel like that benefits his specific game? Getting better and better. He's a smart, smart guy. He's got all the tools to be, the type of Mike Landbacker that you want, he's big, he tries to play physical, he's smart, he studies, he knows the stuff you can tell him. Just like everybody, I mean, you tell him and then they may not do it right the first time, but the second time he's gonna, if he makes a mistake, he's gonna clean it up, he's not gonna do it the second time, that's what you ask for. So it's just, I think he is really progressing into what we expected him to be at a Mike Landbacker. I really feel good about him and I've had some really good Mike Landbackers in my day and I really feel like as a young Landbacker, this guy's got a very, very bright future. Where are some of those traits that you really like about him that kind of? Just what I said, he can run, he's physical, he's smart, he's starting to get, the more he plays the position, the more he learns how to key and read and here's where I gotta be and here's where I gotta be. Some of these times, people just forget that, I mean, it's not like this guy has played Mike Landbacker's whole life out there and it's basically then in a new system. I mean, you gotta go through some stuff a little bit to learn the system and like I say, it's, sometimes I get a little frustrated and people kinda thinkin' that all this stuff is just automatically gonna just, man, they're gonna go out there and it's gonna go like that. It never does. I mean, it takes a while for everybody to learn how to play your position. Did you guys write really well when you came out of college? You think you're a better writer now than you were when you came out of college? I would probably say you'd think that. Well, what would make any different, this profession isn't any different, that profession's there that way. The more you play it and the more you do it, the more you write, the better you write. You say, I don't like the way I did this and then you change it. I mean, what's the difference? Everybody gets so, you know, immediate gratification. This guy's gotta go walk in and do. It frustrates me a little bit when people say that. All right, do you think Isaiah Oliver is a good example of that? Here's somebody who kind of is just now coming into his own and being able to feel confident in this spot. I mean, it wasn't an immediate thing for him. It's something that he grew into. And there's a lot of guys that and even though they're a corner or they're a safety, this is a different system than they played in before. So it's different. It takes a while. You can talk about OTAs and training camp and stuff all you want. It's playing the game that makes a difference. It just does. You know, and like I say, I get a little frustrated at times, you know, with it, you know, get the guy a chance. Let him learn it, you know. You've been known and you talk about in camp about having input from players. Is their knowledge of the defense enough at this point where they can do that? Or is there a certain threshold in a season or in knowledge of a scheme where you can then rely on that? It's getting better and better. That's all I can tell you is it's getting, it gets better and better every week that we go in there and we meet and they see something and then start to understand it a little bit more. And, you know, you're trying not to overwhelm them with a bunch of new stuff. You know, once they learn the system, then you can tweak something a little bit because then they kind of, oh, I understand. But until they really understand exactly how everything works, it's hard to tweak something. So you just gotta be careful and not go crazy. Like I say, just, you know, I just, yeah, I'm trying to answer the question the best that I can for you. I just, I get a little, like I say, I get a little frustrated. But I get frustrated from outside sources really not stopping and thinking before they say something about somebody or something. And, you know, it's just, it's not fair to the players or to the staff that is trying like hell to build a hell of a program that everybody's proud of. And I'm a little different standing up in front of you because I told you there's two things. One, I'm at the age in my life where I could really give a rat what somebody says. Second thing is, is that I also, I told you guys up front that I know you guys have a job to do and I respect that. And I would always try to like, try to rather inform you as to something that's going on without giving away a scheme or a trade secret or something. But I'd rather do that and be polite and do that than I would some of the coaches that stand up here. Yeah, yeah, next question. No, you know, so I feel like I've always had a good rapport with me because I felt like I tried to explain it. But I have a hard time. I really have a hard time with respect when the first comment I hear on Monday morning is from a guy that says, well, finally, the Atlanta Falcons won a game after 10 months. I didn't know we played in April and March. I forgot that Tampa Bay didn't win one for seven months either. I mean, why not just say, why is this sensationalism? Why not just say, hey, we finally after three weeks we won a game, 10 months. Throw that out there to the fans and all that. So why would you say that? And then the next thing out of the comment out of his mouth was it was an ugly win. But you don't have to describe an ugly win. So I don't really know what was ugly. Was it ugly that Isaiah stripped the ball in a two minute right before the half and gave the offense the ball in a 37? Was it ugly win that everybody talked about Dante Fowler in the last six months being only two sacks last year and he's already got two strip sacks in the first three games? Was it an ugly win that we all I heard in the off season was how we couldn't finish a game? How about the offense driving the link to the field after they scored on us to score? We stop them in two minutes, which everybody says defense can't do. And then the offense goes down and kick a field. Was that an ugly win? And we take a defensive back who played safety for me during preseason and I put him out there a corner for our starting corner and did a really good job. What part of that was an ugly win? And the guy that said I wouldn't know if it was an ugly win or a good win, it's a win. It's a win, everybody's ugly. Every game is not gonna be perfect. So I don't understand that kind of feedback or that the expectation, the expectation is to win. We all have that expectation. But there's also a reality sometimes that people gotta learn how to do something before they really become proficient at it. And that's what we're trying to do. And we're not trying to change things and not trying to do a bunch of stuff. We're trying to get better every week. And we got better the second week and we got better the third week. And I hope we get better the fourth week. But that's what we're striving to do. And I just don't understand people that say they support the Falcons that you can say that kind of stuff in the public. That bothers me. I'm being honest with you guys. I'm telling you what's in my heart. Okay, it probably shouldn't. Probably come back to haunt me. Somebody will print something and somebody else will take offense to it and I'll hear about it. I could really give, and you know what? But the truth of it, that's the truth though. That's the truth. If you're over there writing for your paper or whatever you're writing for and somebody's criticizing you, telling you it's not good writing, what's that make you feel like? And do it in the public. You know, if it's one thing it's the editor just telling you one-on-one in the office, but if he says it to the whole daggone people, the staff at the newspaper or something or where you're working, how would that make you feel? You know, you're not helping the cause. If you really wanna see the Falcons win, I'm not saying don't write stuff that's true. If we play bad, we play bad. The Philadelphia game, we did not play well. We didn't coach well, we didn't play well. But then don't make stuff up. Don't be sensational as they haven't won a game in 10 months. No kidding. We've been playing for three weeks. I mean, I don't understand. You know what that is? That's all about the guy that said it, patting himself on the back thinking he's either funny or clever. That's what that is. And I don't think that's really good. Media. Is that my piece? Okay, I wouldn't piss off about it and say it. What? No, I'm frustrated with it. Because you're in there busting your butt and the players are busting their butt. And then when you finally do, how many people in the press conference after the game, second, congratulations to art? Zero. Zero. First question, it was about pits. In a win, the man won his first game as a head NFL football coach. And now one person said, hey, coach congratulations on your win and then asked the question, not one. I think, because he said Michael is the only way I know, you asked, you did ask about what it felt like to have your first win, I think, or something like that. And he also says something about the defense, you know? And I thought it was decent. I think it was you, because I heard him say Michael, but I don't know. But I'm just saying, how hard would it have been as a person, to a person who gives you the time of day as a head coach to talk to the media after a game to say congratulations, coach, on your first win and then ask a question? None. Zero. I'm just saying, how would you feel? How do you look at, what's the timeline in your head for this process? There can't be a timeline. There's no timeline. I'm not sitting there saying, oh, I don't know if it's gonna be, I'm hoping it's right away. That you can't put a timeline. It's like when you ask a question on a player, when's that player gonna be ready to play? I don't know. He'll be ready to play when we think he's ready to play. You know, we just need to keep doing what we're doing and do it. I mean, I could go through, probably the five guys that I've respected as a defensive coordinator, the most ever in this league are Dick LeBeau, Jimmy Johnson, Wade Phillips, Kiffin, and I'm trying to think of the fifth guy that I know. I've contacted all of you. Do you know, like all those guys, when they first went to a team, things didn't go well. Just look them up. I need to tell you something that's, I wouldn't tell you something that's not true. Look them up. Dick LeBeau did the best. And Wade, because he was a coordinator at so many damn places, but he was here too. I don't know, you guys were around. I don't know how'd that go? How'd that go? Out there. Okay, so I'm just saying that there's a bunch of guys that are out there too that mentioned about, well, you know, boy, we should be just like, we should be like this. We should be like, nobody is. Offense, defense, specialty, nobody is. Come on. It's just, they gotta learn it. But there's not a timeline. I hope we're 14 and two. That's what we're shooting for. I mean, every week you're shooting to go out there and win. We're never shooting to go out there and, boy, hopefully improve this week. I don't really care if we win or lose. You go out there to improve. And if you keep improving, you will win. If you don't, you won't. But to abort something or try to not follow through on it and make the guys better every week, that's the wrong way to go. All those guys had a system. We all have a system. And one thing I learned from all those guys, being around Bill Belichick was another one, 5-11 his first year. So I'm just saying I've learned from all those guys. I've been around, blessed to be around, not only good guys that I worked for with Belichick and Sabin and those guys, but I also spent a lot of time talking to Dick LeBeau. I spent a lot of time talking to Wade Phillips, Jimmy Johnson. I've talked to those guys that I always wanted to know what they were thinking. And all of them is, we have a system, if you don't believe in the system and you're changing it all the time, then you have no belief. So I have a system and I'm gonna work that system and I'm gonna make sure I'm gonna keep working that system because I believe in it. Then if it doesn't work after a couple of years, then you're looking for another job. But knock on the wood, I've never looked for another job. Is that a patient, something you had to learn as a young coach? Do you have to learn patients in the process? I still don't have it. You can tell right now I don't have it. I mean, I don't. I wished I was better at it. I've learned that I have to do that. I'm a very impatient person. I asked my wife. But I've learned that I have to stay patient with it. It's like in a ball game sometimes, okay? You call a zone coverage and they hit a pass on it. Do you never come back to that same zone coverage again? Or let's say you call man coverage and they hit a deep one on you and they score it. So you're never gonna call that call again? No, the guy probably didn't. It's either technique or something happened or the guy made great catch. That catch down on the sideline last week against TJ Green. That's a hell of a catch by that guy. Hell of a catch. So am I gonna look at that and go, oh man, we give up a 30 yarder there. I can't call cover one anymore. No, I called it two plays later. Had nothing to do with it. That's what patient says is in calling a game, I've learned probably more in calling a game to be patient than I have patients about not winning. I mean, I've never been through one losing season in my whole NFL career. And yet we were sixth on defense in that year in the league. So I don't have a lot of patience. I don't have patience for losing neither does art and neither does any coach. But... Oh, so to be patient and losing, I mean patients in installation, patients in building... Well, what you gotta do is you gotta look at it and when you put something in and if it's a problem over and over and over again, then you gotta move on to something else. But I think you keep trying it until you're convinced it's not good for this team. I think it's what it is, is that do we do all the stuff that we did at Baltimore? Do we do all the stuff that we did at Tennessee? No, because right now we're not ready to do all that stuff. We're just not, okay? And I kind of learned that in the first game. I probably did a little too much. And so we're just not ready for that. So until we're ready for that, then we'll take the next step. But because we backed off a little bit, we actually played better in the next two games. So that proved to me a little bit about, okay, yeah, that's the right approach to take. I hope I answered your question, Aaron. Well, you guys had enough of me already? No. All right, I appreciate you guys. Thank you. Take care.