 The best kind of doors are the doors you have to explain. Welcome, welcome to Unhinged with The Door Door. Today, we have a very special nerd joining us. I'm Adam Dalvin. I'm on the business development team with Sergeant Corbin Russ one. You guys ready for the next one? Yes. This one's not too knocking bad at all. In fact, I think it's quite remarkable. Ooh, this is one of those ancient balanced doors, isn't it? Mm-hmm. These ones are nice. Wow, yeah, this is, I'm more impressed than concerned. Perhaps I'm overlooking a concern just because I think the architecture is so cool, but. Oh, I'm sure there's like, they've been really grandfathered into some codes here. Like really cool. Probably not five pound compliant for California. Yeah, that's probably not ADA compliant. Like, you know, I would struggle getting a wheelchair over that. But typically one person can shut these. Yeah, so there's a little background. This one was actually submitted by Mr. Roger Schmidt, one of our corporate electronic mechanical specialist trainers. And I did a post while back where I said, hey, post your oldest picture of door that you've ever seen. And this is the oldest door that he's ever seen. And it's in Turkey and it's about 1500 years old, which is just mind blowing to think about nothing in the States is anything close to that history. Right? Like that's pretty remarkable. And then you can see his hand and Roger's a pretty tall guy. So he's got a big hand, like look at the thickness of that door. And he said it was still swinging. It was screeching quite a bit, but it was still swinging. Yeah, I would love to see the hinges on that thing. Yeah, right? Those old pivots that they have no idea how that whole thing works. I need to go back to Europe and figure it out. Sounds like a business trip. Investigative purposes. No, this is awesome. I'm more impressed than concerned. No, this was definitely not really knocking bad, just kind of knocking amazing. I'd like knock on that door. Yeah, these are always really cool. I appreciate these. We should do DHN in the wild. Yeah, I feel Rome calling us. Would be fun, would be fun. Okay, so not too knocking bad. I don't even know if we should give this one a knock and score any final comments before we jump into the last photo. I gave it a 10 on the cool rating. Yes, exactly. Pretty remarkable. Thanks, Roger, for sending it in. I guess if I had to be picky, I would question whether or not the doors are swinging in the path of egress, but I'm not gonna pick on this door that hard. Okay, the final photo, are you ready? All right, oh, now this is really interesting. This is one of those where I gotta look at it closely to figure out if I'm impressed or concerned. This is kind of a flush mount, a concealed closer, semi-concealed closer. Is this a new product we need to offer? So did they cut the closer or did they cut the frame? They cut the frame was notched and probably not the proper method, but all things considered done pretty clean. Not right, but a nice job of not doing it right. So I got sent this photo by a fellow door hardware nerd, remaining anonymous here. And I was impressed at first, I was looking at it. I'm like, but wait a second, how are you going to adjust it when you need to adjust the closer? I'm like, where are the valves? And he's like, oh, I didn't think about that. Turns out they needed to adjust the back check after installing it and the valves are on the other side. So the person that submitted this did the install? So I think it was his team was doing it. It looks nice and crisp and clean, but hopefully you never have to adjust that door ever again. Maybe do it in BSP, huh? Oh yeah, I didn't think about that, yeah. Black suede would have looked nice. Well, probably 10 BE would have blend better. You think so? Yeah, I guess everything comes across the screen differently. To me, it looks like it's a brownish frame. It looks kind of like that brown anodized aluminum, but the pictures in the shadows, it makes it tough to tell for sure. So again, I don't know if there's any life safety or code issues here, but just thought it was quite remarkable in its own different way. Yeah, for sure. And I'm reluctant to dog on it too much if our friends submitted it. He gave me permission. So he realizes where they went wrong real quick. Yeah, that's funny. Like I said, it's actually done pretty cleanly. Maybe make it tough to service down the road. The maintenance and operations team may not like it, but the architect would probably love it. Right, get that closer out of my sight. Knock and score, what do you think? I have a tough time, I guess, seeing the life safety concern side of it. I think I'd put it at a kind of at a five in the middle because even though I don't perceive it as a life safety concern, it's still not really done correctly. We do look at things from the standpoint of the life of the building, how we're gonna maintain and service them. And so that five, you know, again, not really from a life safety standpoint, but just from looking at it from the life of the building and who's gonna have to take care of it. I think that could be a bigger challenge down the road. I'm gonna put it in the middle at a five. Yeah, I agree with you, Adam. I think down the road, whoever is maintaining this building, it's gonna be a five and then the next year it's gonna be a six and then the next year it's gonna be a seven. They're gonna just be more and more frustrated with the same door that they have to uninstall basically every time to adjust. Yeah, depending on their comfort level, with disassembling that structure too, you might get the right person that says no problem. Yeah, that's true. I am also at middle of the road. However, with more information, I would potentially change my rating because we're seeing more and more of these glass walls have some sort of a windstorm rating. My concern would be by cutting into the framing, did they mess with the integrity of this wall at all? Just looking at it and assuming they just wanted more daylighting at this opening and that it's not actually rated for wind or anything. Mia needs an engineering review, of course. But yeah, so if there was any sort of like windstorm rating associated with this, that would be my concern because now you've created a weak point. Yeah, and if you are not able to adjust the closer, there's potential of it not latching, which is also a security issue in itself, right there. Also, from an environmental sustainability, this is an exterior door. If that door's not closing properly, you're letting in the elements, you're letting out the cool air. I don't know where this is at, but it looks nice and warm. So you might want to keep that air conditioning in your building like the door was designed to do. That's a good point. And from a safety standpoint, if it wasn't adjusted to be strong enough, it could just be flinging open into people or something like that and then make it more difficult to do the proper fix. And then we end up with the bungee strap on it five years from now on this same show, trying to figure out how do we get here? Oh my God, I would love that. That would be fantastic. And we had the evolution of a door fell. We need to check in on these opening every three years or so and just see how they're doing. Where are they now? Yeah, where are they now? No, I'm thinking that- You know, like Pokemon or like Digimon, where like it's first stage and then phase two and then phase three of the nerd coming out and make. Any last comment on this before we close it out? I think a nice low profile, low energy operator would have blended in just as well and not required as much custom modification. Yeah, that's right. One that you can like program with your phone. Pathetically, you never know. We might know somebody. And I might know somebody. Okay. The image was tough because like I said, I was really more impressed with it than wanting to critique it. And even the third one was tough because even though it wasn't done properly, like they did a really good job at doing it improperly, you know? So it actually looked pretty nice. It looked intentional. So there were some tough ones there today. Yeah, no, those are some clean cuts. I was expecting some more like jagged lines or like sparks flying or something. I don't know. I've seen some pretty rough install. I bet they could do a quality electric strike installation if they were that good at, you know, notching around the clothes or they'd probably do a really solid job on the framework too. Yeah, let's give this person a job. All right. Well, Adam, thank you. Thank you so much for joining us today. It was a pleasure having you on the show. Join us for the next episode of Unhinged. Our doors are always open partially because they're unhinged. Thanks for having me. Great show. If you want to be featured on a future episode of Unhinged or if you have a photo to submit, please leave a comment down below. Thanks for watching.