 All right, so Congress, 632. First item of business is opening up the public comment. I don't seem alive or remote. Members of the public, however, is there. Letters. Seeing now we've got a job on our hands to approve the minutes of December 13. That is nicely. On the other side of the agenda. So we can take a minute. I believe this is. Rachel's a inaugural minute. If there's anything you'd like to see done differently. Let me know. Well, it looks like to me there's only the only question I have. This is overly competent for us. I mean, that's what they're doing. They're saying that there's too much spelling too good for my students. So this could be that this was, she did it with that chat thing. That would be great. It sounds like. Dave salmon holds no fixes or. Amendments to the minutes. If that is the case, I'd entertain a motion with staff. My mouth is full. It's hard to move. Dave so moves to accept the minutes of December 13. Correct. Yes. And Chad seconds. All those in favor of accepting the December. 2022 minutes. So we did. Call us to order at 632. Thanks for getting here. And how the roads. Yeah. We just approved the December. They're in the back. Yeah. That brings us to financial. I don't see CJ. No, I got a text from her saying she was going to attend remotely. I just went and grabbed my phone to see if she said anything. She was having problems. So she's just. You want to give us a lay of the land. So actually since December. Sure. So I. There's the. The new budget for 2023. And. I think we have a little bit different in terms of the reports. I've pulled out the projects. So you may have seen another report that was the youth documentary lab and the Green Mountain Film Festival. Because we hold their accounts. And they have rather than have it as part of this report. I separated out. So it's a little bit easier to watch. I think our plan was the youth documentary lab is netting out to the Green Mountain Film Festival. I think they are moving up. So there may be that they may pull out of our books completely again, start to take that on. So outside of that, it's, you know, it does include half of February. So we're still expecting like one more payroll to hit the books for February. So it's a little bit. To keep that in mind. And I think. And then I also included the close up or not quite the close year end budget for 2022. So I think we talked about it in the previous meeting, but now all the expenses have come through. And I think the accountant is waiting to do a couple of bits on his end and then he'll start the tax return. So 2022 should be like on our end, all our expenses have hit the books and should be pretty much done. I think he's just putting in some. I think Edward Jones numbers into the report. So I think the conversation. So with the budget for this year, the compensation is a little bit on the edge. I think we've got state house happening right now. So it's a little bit more and we've been kind of monitoring it. And that's a little bit new on our end to try to look at how much, how many camera operators and trying to make sure that we don't throw over the monthly budget amount. But it is a little bit on the edge and a little bit higher than it shows against the budget. But we will probably recoup that because the state house slows down. We'll see less camera operators being sent. And we'll go back to mostly the schools and schools. Can I think of a question? Sure. So there's two docs here. Once January 1st to February 17th. Now on this one, when it says budget, that's a monthly breakdown. That's just the two months. Okay. So it's a two month. And then the annual is the next one. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Oh no. So I will, if there's any questions about the reports or. Or about the previous years. Show up on budget, but the. It sounds like you and CJ had a conversation and let me know there's this $200,000. That's just kind of. Sitting there was not used to build this budget. No. So do you want to share the history of that? So. And I think you'll see it like when we get to the code records, but when we look at our checking account and our savings account, you'll see that's that two and 93. That Michael's talking about. So this would be, it's just pretty much money that wasn't spent over, I think. In the past year. We've been holding in there probably since COVID. So like 2020, I think we had a lot of savings because we weren't sending out camera operators. So all that extra money because the Comcast check just came in. And it gets put into the savings account. And as we use it for checking to pay, you know, cover payroll and things. We pull out of the savings. And so that amount had just been sitting because payroll had been lower. So that amount was going to be in the savings account. And so that amount was going to be in the savings account. And then in 2020 and 2021. And then even 2022, all the savings that you see. And the report. The 2022 budget report where I think we ended up. Like around like 75,000. You know, less than what we budgeted in expenses. So that amount just didn't get spent. And so that's living in the savings account as well. And so that amount was going to be in the savings account. And so that amount was going to be in the savings account as well. And the savings with the rent. And so that has all just been in the savings account. And I think I don't know if it was before, there just wasn't enough in the savings at the end of the year to move to do anything with, because it was pretty, I think pretty tight. And so, but now with all those savings, there's a fair amount that just lives there. And it's, you know, I pulled to cover payroll and stuff that other than that is just, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, and then I think the other question, and maybe CJ might have known this also is, you know, I think when we were talking with investment people, they're like, there's a certain amount that we didn't want to go over. Right. I seem like there was some talk of like having too much in the investment account makes it seem like we're something else. So that's where it was like, okay, so, you know, will that necessarily all the savings. And right now the investment account probably doesn't look at that. I wonder. A year and a half of operating. I'm sitting on much more than that. It's. Found it. Just looks like you might be more of an investment company. But our operating is what? Is there anything we can do that sense? I've always just heard it as a benchmark. I don't think it triggers any. Yeah. So far, it's 471. Cut that. Yeah. It'd be like six up for $700,000. We have no income. We could operate for a year and a half. Okay. So what do you think? Is it going to be near mark for something and just. Well, I mean, I think that there's this 293. It's closer to three actually is new. Just like right for strategic planning. We have a policy where savings goes. A quarter to investment. Half to underserved towns. I have to project that, you know, I mean, like that, that is. A good group decision. But maybe we could define it. This way in that way. So when there's a band, do all the organizations reveal to the public? That's what at least their final figures and stuff are. Yeah. That's the rule. That you mean the annual report that we turn into band. Yeah. Yeah. So, so how do we compare. With other organizations. Probably. Average to above average. I mean, it's. I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. The average to above average. I mean, it's, it's, I'd say that outside of. The Burlington folks. Yeah. Their annual budgets are probably around seven or 800,000. You know, so. But there's some that are as low as. Matter of Valley is like. Very, very low. Yeah. I've looked at all of them, but I don't have. I don't have the numbers. Hardwick is really low. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I'd say we're in the middle somewhere. Yeah. There's a lot of little ones. That's a good question. And. Yeah. So they have a budget mark for as a buffer sort of. Well, I think. Yeah, that's a good, like they're, I think what their annual revenue is kind of how they. They. Looked at, but you're right. That's a different question of like, what did they have in their savings account? Yeah. That's, I'm sure information that van has, but I haven't seen yet. Is there anything in the bylaws that prevents. Organizations like ours and vans. From having endowments. That's a good question. I don't know. No one's ever asked that question. Our bylaws are silent on that. Which I think is. Means it's permitted. Yeah. Okay. I was just curious. And I don't, I don't know that there's necessarily like van has rules for how, I mean, every, every of the 24 organizations, they have their own bylaws. Right. Van doesn't have any rules for engagement or, you know, so. They just help make sure that you're. Abiding by the state law. Yeah. That's good. Another way. Have we ever had anyone die and have them. I don't know. I don't know. I don't need something to our agency. It's one of their things to do with. I know of, yeah, maybe in the history of orca, you mean, or in the history of all of the. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. I haven't heard of that. Okay. I don't need to get on a tangent. Yeah. That's a great question. I think also to like, just note that. Maybe I'll even get back to the perspective of. You know, If you were teaching planning project, what do we do with our savings or do we do with our investments. And. I'm sure. And facilities circle probably has some ideas, how we can spend some money. Yeah. Well, the loan we took out to our shelf was about. Well, the loan we took out to our shelf was about 60. And we have been getting notices from hypercasting. Oh, it's been, you know, you can start thinking about upgrading. And so I mean, it may be that I think hypercaster is old enough that it could be like if that was something that we were like, okay, we do want to invest in a new one that it could be not I think that that committee, the smaller committee is going to work on that. I think that would be a great priority. Yeah, there are a lot of questions about what about that system how much. Yeah, forward all that. In December, you guys presented the budget very well. Thank you. Okay. The ad of the 10 grand up to 10 grand for you. That was that 10 grand like tuck in a bowl. So, how do you how do you let you with a task. So where it is in our budget is I put the expense and under consultants. So you'll see in the one that's till December that at 16. So that includes our strategic, the strategic planning consultant and then the 10,000 for the audit. So where we just are negative. So we're just over budget and that may be that, you know, if we just want to add like movement from savings, I don't know. I think we could maybe do that and just say, okay, so we're just going to be negative because we're going to pull that from the savings account from the savings account. So I'm going to do a three to three year review and then just press in on that. And that'll probably reduce the years and I don't know if you're on 5045 consultant. Mm hmm. And are you looking at the December, the one that ends in December. January, December. And so that's budgeting, both potential financial report. I think it's the light audits, the financial review. Review. Thank you. Plus strategic planning sitting there. Great. All in one place. 5045. Thank you. Other questions thoughts or. That won't draw attention to. Is our rent. Under the word capital with capital. Yes. And so for two months. We actually spent 5446. Okay. Reason I asked this. I have no idea what. This building is going to look like. And what the school like stores going to look like. Whether we're going to be paying Colorado. Yeah. I put too many questions for you to figure out. Yeah. I think we did also throw that to the facilities circle about. Yeah. I have a question. About your location and thinking about that. Yes. Okay. So were there any questions about. Previous year's budget. Current year's budget. I'll move to accept the financials. I'll move to accept the financials. I'll move to accept the financials. I'll move to accept the financials. I'll move to accept the financials. I'll move to accept the financials. I'll move to accept the financials. I'll move to accept the financials. We have the report and we sent it out. You have it in front of you here. And so we're just going to kind of highlight some of the exciting things from each of our. Sections. Looking at production. As you all know, the start of the state house coverage, we're going to be doing some of the rooms with poor audio and video. We've been getting some feedback from the van community. From their one. Right. Yes. Yeah. Or audio and video from their. Their setups. Yeah. So they be in the state or the state committee rooms yet. So if you don't know that each committee. Each committee has a YouTube channel. And so they. They're doing it. They're doing it. They're doing it. They're doing it. They're doing it. They're doing it. They're doing it similarly to have a set of like ours on the table and. They are. Live streaming their meetings. And. Yeah, so they're doing it. In this house. That process was invented during. Yes. They're continuing. Yeah. So we're now we're back there. Kind of doing what we had done before with a little bit of. What they're doing. And there's. Kind of in a new way with. Hybridization. Where. Where. Their video and audio is, is poor specifically in some of the bigger rooms like room 11. Room 24 of the downstairs rooms. Yeah, we've been still showing up there with a camera and that's been super helpful. What we've heard from the van folks, the van community that have been watching the meetings. Is that, you know, there's some problems with like the, these kind of cameras. Cutting to a wide shot like you can see at the top. And you can't tell who's talking who's testifying. You know, You know, I'm a camera in the room, you know, that somebody's actually behind is still really helpful. And I think that's great. So another thing that we've been doing. Zach's been doing is kind of. Processing some of the feedback and. Actually inserting our video, like a picture to picture. So that you can, When someone's sharing their screen. That was another issue. You would again default to that wide shot. in a smaller window, a wider shot and having a harder time seeing who's talking. So that was what we heard. So we're kind of putting a picture of our camera, like a medium shot, you know, our camera person on that. And that's, that's been helping. Yeah. So thoughts, thoughts just unfolding in real time at the State House. Yeah. In terms of prioritizing community rooms with better audio and better video, we provide what techniques or strategies or do we provide better equipment? What do we do to make that work better? So how do we make it work? I think the State House has been pretty like, like closed in terms of their tech people have done their rooms and they have been, and I think, you know, for a lot of those rooms, because their video feed is adequate and you can kind of see that it oftentimes, like for us to go in and try to suggest better, it's I think they're not super receptive. So what we said was rather than try to change them or like try to offer all these things, we said, well, we were trying to offer these rooms that they didn't get to that they were like, whether it was they didn't have enough cameras, but they have some that are up in the corner. That's how we said, okay, well, that video is really hard to see. So if we offer better video than those, and that's how like, so a lot of the rooms that have good video, we haven't been putting staff in, and that's also like just part of our staffing, we don't have enough to put everyone in there and all of them. And then so with those that are just really bad, we're like, because our video is a little bit better and that you can see who's testifying, that we're hoping that in that end, we're not stepping on toes of the State House because I think there's been talks with the other band community about we would like this and we would like that and they're just kind of like not super receptive. And at the same time, it's, you know, they spend, they had a lot of money and they spent time and did that and it's been working for people. So they're like, you know, it's extra things to give the committee person to manage or so we've been kind of being like, we don't want to suggest things because it really is that committee assistant that would have to do if they have to manage their own. And then if we're like, also, oh, here's some extra microphones. So we're like, okay, we'll just kind of let them do theirs and we'll just do the ones that we can offer better video for. And so I think on that end and same with like the I think public hearings, we've since historically, we've always done public hearings and live so we are continuing on that with that tradition. And I think there's some policy briefings that so whenever they want us, we're like, we're here, we can help you and we want to help you and do whatever you need. But at the same time, we're not like, oh, you should need to do this over here kind of thing. So if I'm a senator and I'm chairing a committee, and I want to see what happened in the meeting that I chaired, I look and see what there is. And it's better because we filmed it or do they see it in a different way than filming of it? Chances are because they still like those rooms that were and they still do their YouTube video. So they can like, I would imagine if you were a senator and the Senate Ed is one of the ones with the corner window or the corner. And so if you were looking at to see, you would just probably go to your own, but we're hoping that there's another option and whether we can get the state has to say, oh, here's other alternative video. It may be that we just with our word of, okay, these, you know, if you're interested in the Senate Ed, for the most as much as we can send our people in there, you know, you can also watch the footage here. And so it's, I think it's one of those words, it's hard to try to get our video out there. And we just rely on Christopher and his social media or like the people that it's like referring to it up. Oh, you know, if you want to see it. And talking about social media and all that, is there a way to flag it? So if you want to watch it in better resolution and better audio, go here. We've thought about that and discussed that or yeah, or even, and I even kind of had a brief conversation with the Sergeant at Arms, like maybe they could include it on their website. Yeah, I mean, it's pretty, it is a close loop. Yeah. I mean, to the extent that like Vermont public has been trying to have this conversation with them for the last two years, and they're not really entertaining Vermont public. So it's like, they're coming in, it's kind of like, well, anybody can come film the meeting. So it's on you from there. So, you know, it is a matter of getting it out there. I think that within the public access world in the BMX exchange that we have, like we are known for, you know, everyone is grabbing our state house coverage. And so it's being shared statewide, which is great. So it's playing on all the channels, it's playing on the statewide channel. Yeah. And, and it is apparently being used by the lobbyists that we've talked to too. So that's great, you know. How about within the city's website? Well, in the city, they do link back to us. So the city is definitely more receptive than the state. So I'm saying a lot of people go to their website, traffic to do their things. Yeah, that does work well. Yeah. Can you post, can you have it there? Yeah, so in the agenda, I believe it says that you can, in the city warnings, like the DRB warnings, it says this, this meeting will also be on our committee. They also say that. Yeah, they say they say about it. Yeah, show on the big screen. But whether we can balance people that go to the city's website to, of course, state house style. It's like, I don't know that they do a lot of state house coverage on there at that time. I'm just, I'm crazy. I'm thinking of something not nearly as self-moting as trying to advertise it. I'm thinking of possibly printing out every month a list of all the meetings that we've covered and then make a copy of that and send it to some of the chairs of the committees so that they know that some of these things are only covered in house or by one other van. But these are the ones that we've covered. So like a little asterisk on some of the meetings. Maybe at some point, right? At some point, right? Like Marsha Marnoon, I talked about the medium is the message, the way that something is presented is more important than what's said. Yeah, I don't know. I watch a meeting that's kind of blurry and the audio is not audible enough. You know, you're less engaged, right? Yeah, I agree. Yeah, there's something to be said about that. Yeah, that's true. I think in the past, like the committees that we chose to cover were based sort of like on content, like one of the hot issues covered. But this year it's more like what room is it in? Is it a crappy video? Yeah. Well, and that's really regardless of it. It's like wow content. Yeah, because we've been able to leverage our skills. And we do still do a little bit of that curating. So when it seems because we are still within our staff capacity of how many people. So we do still, like if it seems like it's a little bit, maybe not as much fun, then we may, like if we had something else in this room better. Yeah. But we do say, okay, let's look at the agenda for the Senate Ed and see if all that stuff. And then if there's anything happening, I think we're also doing like the energy and environment. If there's something interesting going on there. And so it's like, okay, so I think we have moved a little bit less to the curating, but there is still some just because we just don't have. So the room isn't the controlling variable, but it has come into the mix. It's like the very top priority, I guess, like pushing it. And then sometimes when it's, if it's like maybe about a tap the chit-a-tin something, we're like, oh, well, this seems a little bit more interesting and energy. So if I as a citizen wanted to look up and find out what was discussed in a certain committee meeting, what is the the apparatus that exists now would go to YouTube? Is it being archived somewhere? So some sort of through the state or? Yes, I think the state has decided to keep the their YouTube links up or their live streams. So they're not taking anything down. So I think probably that was an issue that they weren't official until recently. Now it sounds like there's been pushback and they are leaving it on their house and every Senate committee has their YouTube channel. Yeah, so like it's like impossible to find. How did you find out about that to be an insider? Well, that it was just I forget exactly, but it was a question of like, what is the official record? And the official record is still the minutes and then the audio recording and not the video. So that's that's why they were like, we can delete our video if we want to. I mean, but that's that's an issue internal to the state house or was it like, yeah, it was last year. So I don't remember exactly, but it was a it was a problem. Yeah. So if tomorrow, senators don't all get there, because it's snowy days. Sure. And I want I'm one of the ones that's not there. Well, I'd be within the ground rules to have to zoom me into the committee. Oh, yeah, they've been doing that. Yeah, that's still if they're essentially they're they're hybrid meetings. So they're all zoomed and they're live, right? Yeah. Okay, I just was trying to figure out which product. Yeah, I think my question is, who raised the flag about they wanted those archives, they wanted to for the people. Probably Steve Whitaker. I mean, honestly. Okay, so that's some of his concerns are concerned. I'm sure the Vermont State Archives and Records Administration is aware and involved. I used to work there and then I had a regular presence at the state house as well. So so I'm sure that and the State Archives and Records Administration maintains the digital preservation system for the state. And while I was there, it was always just the audio that was coming in and being preserved in that system. I haven't heard what's been going on, but I'm sure they're involved. The audio was very bad at some point. And it would skip, it was just very poorly done. And you had a request to CD. Yeah, or the cassette tapes. Yeah, we had we had cassette tapes as well as CDs as well as the digital and and you know, it's exactly like with the video, they'd be able to mic in like one corner of the room. So if it and people wouldn't always explain who was speaking, you wouldn't be it. So it is the audio is what it is. It's not great. So yeah. Well, and I think that that kind of circles back to like this, you know, understanding of like public benefit and the appropriations that we're asking for as a community media community is that like, we do know what we're doing. So it's like we're asking them to use us and to use our skills and to use our resources because yeah, there's stuff is not always in Vermont public is saying the same thing. And I think that that's where LG has done a really good job in Burlington teaming up with Eric Ford at Vermont Public is saying trying to have that conversation. But it's it's slow. But I think it's happening. I think yeah. So I think in terms of how do you find it? Like, I think if you go like just like we when we look at the genders, like if you go to the Vermont legislative website, it's pretty like if you're interested in a particular committee, it's the links are there. Like and so it's pretty easy to and even if they have a joint meeting, like if they know it's going to be on someone else's committee's website, so the links are there. So they've been pretty good about trying to have it easy. But it is like you go into that, you can spend hours in there and like you can look up witnesses and topics and see websites pretty good. Yeah, I think that's where they're just going to pull it out. Yeah. And yeah, and then the footage is going, it goes back to YouTube or somewhere does it go to? Where can people view it? What's the our footage? No, it's on their YouTube. Yeah, their YouTube, their committee rooms, YouTube. So each committee room has it. And there's like a link that says, you know, here's the live stream link and you just go there. So I think in terms of our stuff, I think, you know, the more we do with like to get people to our website, like it's the age old don't like desire to get people to our website, and they'll see like our state house coverage and you're like, oh, okay, let's click. And then like, hopefully, the more we get them to hear and as well as like, you know, word of mouth that we had these coverage and you can watch it and it's better footage that hopefully it will get more people like coming to us to say, oh, you know, what did they do in their state house? And do you find that your whips that are good website is easier to kind of find those committee minis versus the state houses? Yes or no, right? That's a it really depends like who you are and what you're looking for. I think Jin's right. Like it's our website is is everything that we do. So it's like, you know, if you're going to, I mean, it's really easy to search on our website. But yet their website is just like, yeah, you go to you go exactly kind of you know what you're looking for. Maybe I don't know. I mean, maybe our website, you mix it up a little bit. I think our website maybe is for like the casual viewer that's like, oh, they're talking about the sheriff's stuff. I just saw it on the news or this that the other and they're like, you might click on it. But if you're a devoted lobbyist, you're going to the legislative side and you're quick because you want it from the source. Yeah. And you're and so that's where it's like, you know, we're kind of like, like, like clips and stuff rather than like, you're not, you know, we've tried to stay within, you know, we're looking at we've been looking at law enforcement. So we've been kind of following that. So you could see previous years and even back when. So if you were like, oh, I'm interested in law enforcement and what, and then you could kind of see a little bit of the tail, like through the years that maybe you wouldn't get on the legislative. But so it's, you know, it's, we're hoping that it's not everything that the state has is doing, but hopefully enough people will get to our website and see stuff and be interested to continue. What was the technological glitch in the mayoral debate? We lost, what, 12 minutes? We did. Yeah. But, but the just was curious because they didn't know the initial live stream. Yeah, there was this switcher just went black. But they didn't lose it. It was okay. It just was curious. Yeah, we were scrambling and trying. Yeah, so we yeah, hopefully that doesn't happen. God, there's the yes. My final question in terms of this topic is right. The final question is in terms of those capturing those committee meetings. Do you title it exactly the same, the state house type Yeah, sometimes they have to abbreviate it a little bit. Okay. And so like on our tile card, we tried to have it exactly the way it's listed on the meeting notes so that if someone's like, oh, I'm looking, you know, they looked at the bit and they're like, oh, rules and responsibilities of Vermont share us. They could take that phrase, go to the legislative, and they can find it and it would match exactly with that meeting note of that particular day. So if somebody did a Google search for that committee, like that meeting, we would appear there also. Yeah, yeah, right next to the state house. The date is the same, the date of the meeting. We publish it two days later. Yeah, one last question on the production aspect. Yeah, well, it's exciting. This is all happening. One, we cover something like the Montreal Montmartre premier country club road community engagement meeting. Are there people that want to say their peace of mind, but don't want to have it covered? I mean, there's a lot of argument about the country club road. Yeah, I mean, that's, I think that's the case of most public meetings. And one of the nice things about participating in zoom is you could, you could turn off your video and you could still say what you want to say and you could even chat, you know, and not even speak. So I was thinking more of the public. Yeah. The country club. So it was like the state or not the city sponsored one. So, and I think we've done it also, like when we're at the Kellogg-Hedberg or something, if they know that we're there recording. So we've oftentimes said this is like a no splash zone. So we've done that in the past at different or like presentations where we're like, if you don't want to be on camera, head over here because you're not going to be caught when they're going to do some sort of painting. So usually someone doesn't want to be on camera. They'll tell you. I was more, I was thinking more of someone who actually has a conflict of interest, but that I want made known, they're trying to give an impartial community reaction. Basically, they're on the side of either buying or not buying the property. And so the recording might be one that they don't want to have their voice or face in. That's all I was just knowing that kind of thing can happen. I mean, we know that Supreme Court doesn't disclose when they have a conflict of interest. So I think that we've tried to be like, if anyone is hesitant and they see us, if they're like, we don't want to be on camera, then we do try to like, let them know this is where we should sit. And if you want to just, so I think that we do try to be, but at the same time, you know, we're like, this is being recorded and on YouTube. When we broadcast in live stream, one of these things, is it also being live streamed on this something like Instagram and Facebook? Because I know whenever I'm on Facebook, I'm seeing things popping up from town eating TVs. Yeah, they do a good job at that. We don't do that. We could think about that. I think it'd be a good idea. You just reminding people, hey, we're doing this, we're doing this. And so then someone's like, oh, yeah, we're going to catch that and be more likely to come too. Have we done that in the past live streams with Facebook? I know that you can, there's software that does that where you just basically stream to YouTube, your site. Yeah, yeah. That'd be cool. Yeah, I think that'd be a great idea because it's like you might catch somebody that only uses Facebook. Yeah, exactly. Okay, thank you. Yeah. So I'm just going to jump over to our outreach section and so just mention that. Yeah, one exciting thing from here is that we had an article featured in the Times Argus covering our new co-director model and if anyone caught that. I clicked it. Yeah, all right, cool. So tonight, but I think I forgot to do it. Zach was a picture of my parents. Color. It was a nice story. And it was just good, too. It's kind of like, I think one of the things that kind of came out of that is a little bit more ongoing things with the Times Argus. So Steve, the editor, Steve Pampas has been coordinating these two forums. So the Mario forum that just happened last week and then this week is the city council forum for Montpelier. So that's exciting. Those are all live and Steve is moderating that. So and he's sharing it on his end too. So that's good. Yeah, then moving over to the strategic plan, which we're going to dive a little bit more into in the next agenda item. But I'll just say that we did have three robust meetings with our consultant, they consider and we drafted some preliminary thoughts on our mission, vision, values, goals and objectives and just kind of wrapping our head around that. I think putting some language down and pretty much everyone has heard that in the circles meetings that we jumped off of. I guess that was in the, I mentioned that in the Oh no, circles have been initiated in conversations are developing. So yeah, that is that's what's happening. And we'll talk a little bit more about that in a second. Um, with staff, you know, we're still looking for camera operators. And so if you know anybody, send them our way, we're going to have a camera operator meeting in March. So that's exciting. finances, do you want to speak to that at all? So I think one bit of the the Comcast check came in that closed off the 2022 so it was lower than the previous one, which was lower than the previous one. So it's, I think when Rob is here, there was kind of like it would go up and down, but now we're kind of seeing that trend of it going down. So the new budget was made based on that lower check that we had gotten. So we're going to be like in terms of our revenue for the next few months will be under budgeted amount because that check is going to be lower. So that's the only bit that's a little bit concerning. So it could be that I think when we made the budget we did some capital gains to kind of like catch up the difference. But so if that may need to go up, if those the Comcast checks continue to go down, we're hoping that it'll have to. So that's good. Do you have our camera operators that wanted to take an intern with them when they go to cover something, teach the intern how to do the whole camera coverage? Sure. Yeah. Because I think that might help someone who didn't dare apply for a job as a camera operator. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's, you know, we're willing to train people and I think that's a nice way to get people in too. They're shadowing people. Yeah. That's kind of how we train people. I think some, like some interns, they're like, they're like not supposed to leave the premises or something. Yeah, maybe it depends on the program. Yeah, it depends on the program. Then some they have like the camera working on their own. One of the pages to go with our camera operator at the state house. If they have a few minutes now to go to me just. Yeah. I mean that might be, maybe it might conflict with the, that they're on to someone else's clock at that point. Yeah, they might be exploiting their labor. Yeah. There is graders, you know, they're not likely to. Okay, I was just trying to, where we had new camera operators. Yeah. Yeah. I see you on the guy who emailed me who is new to town and looking for like, oh, right. Yeah, I think I was, I totally forgot about that. Yes. Thank you. Yeah. We're supposed to talk with them also. Okay. And he was looking for work. Yeah. Yeah, new to my peculiar recent grad. Yeah. Okay, cool. So yeah, you can have them if you encounter anyone jobs at orcamedia.net. Just tell them. She doesn't email jobs at orcamedia.net. So it was their best if I hear something like this to CC because I think I only had Christopher on there. So the jobs, I think automatically send something to Christopher. It's a read, it does a redirect as well. Or you could send it to production at work immediate and all three of us will see it. That's yes. Yeah. I mean, but if you send it to me, yeah, I think I was just, I was off that day or something. Do we go to occasional job fairs? There's a big one coming up pretty soon. Really? No, we're the career center. Burlington, the Burlington one is huge. It seems like a good place for us to have somebody there. It's like too big for it to be, but the Burlington one is a central Vermont one. Yeah, that might be a place, right? Yeah, I think so. And I think, you know, one of the things I've done in the past is just reach out to like the, I'd need to do it again to the central Vermont career center and to the, yeah. Those kids don't have vehicles. Yeah. Like a lot of them are from, there's some from a month earlier, but a lot of them are from Barry and they just don't have vehicles. I have students. I know. I was going to say, we do have three out of, yeah. Yeah, pretty good. That's pretty big. You have students. I have students that I could send in a heartbeat. Yeah, you just probably send us the most people. Yeah, I think then we also have U32 students. Yeah. And I have other students that are great, but they just don't have vehicles. Like really good. Yeah, I mean, and also. Who's in charge of the outreach program in the high school? I forgot his name. McLean. Yeah. Does he not bring, is he not trying to connect students with businesses outside? So, yeah, I think you can do that. Yeah, I worked with Michael and Heather, who's also Heather McLean, but they're not related. And they both have the high school and they do the CBL program. And so, yeah, we have, they're, they're in their new semester. So, you know, they might, Heather reached out to me and we talked about students might be coming in here as mentorship. So I mean, that's another pathway too is like, maybe they come in here from the high school to do a project and then if we tell them, hey, we're always hiring part-time camera operators. I know that three or four of the kids last summer, but they were all 14 and 15 wanted to work for us. And they were really excited. But the other thing that we have is there's, a lot of these high schools have a, in order for students to graduate, they have to have community service. Oh, right, right. And that could be community service filming instead of working in a kitchen somewhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, that's a good pitch. So maybe you might want to pitch that to whoever runs that program. Because every high school has somebody who runs that program. Yeah. And I know Barry has, Barry has, Balvin has that community service is like 30 hours. I think Mount Pinner does also. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. So that's 30 hours per student. And the school pays for that? Yeah, I mean, no, the students are, it's on their own, they have to find that in order to graduate. It's kind of like a credit. Oh, so they just, it's like, they have to have some job. They have to find a community service job, not paid, a community service job, even back to the community and 30 hours. And then you have to, the administrators have to sign off on that. So maybe pitching that to the high schools. Yeah. As you listen, or can be a place for community service, a lot of these students, and they're going to learn the craft and they're going to learn many other things. And then when they've done with that, they could also start earning money. Yeah. So, you can see the picture in the paper of the new Glean van. No. They have a brand new van with a beautiful painting for, you know, the work that they do cleaning. Is that what the piece locally? Yeah. Oh, right. Okay. Cool. So I'm just, I've always thought we should have a van. I think we should have a van. So I know. Well, there's the $200,000 right there. They may have gotten help from Health Post or whatever his name is. Well, we could start with vinyl sides to the, you know, maybe, yeah, vinyl wraps on cars or something. Yeah. Anyway, I agree. Yeah. But no, that's great to just be out there. Yeah. So just, I think, do you want to say anything else on finance? Yeah, I think that was it. Do you want to roll right in the strategic plan? Yeah, let's do it. I was just going to quickly mention the statewide, we did receive that $25,000 check we're waiting for. There's a typo there, sorry. And then there's another typo on the full tax. I put the wrong full. So that was just trying to keep you guys focused. So that was the full tax that I mentioned. Yeah, there'll be a lot more information coming out on that. So let's see. So moving on, if we are ready. Do we need to accept it? I'm just real quick. The van is asking for a million dollars. Correct. For a one-time appropriation of a million dollars for 2024. And is that how delegated size? I think it'll be split across the board just like the roll last time. Yeah, I think that that they did a bunch of math and they kept coming back to that. Okay, Metro, yeah. Thanks. Do we do a formal vote accepting the director's report? We did that. We certainly could unless strategic planning is within, that would be, it's a separate agenda item. Yeah, okay. So does anyone want to move to accept the co-directors report? Thank you, Rach. Oh, I'll move too. I'll second it. And we have a second today. And I'll as a favor accept it and do co-directors report. Please take my say aye. Aye. Aye. And opposed. Is it co-directors or tri-directors? I'm saying co-directors. And that was unanimous 723 on the time check, bringing us to, yeah, updating our strategic planning. I think every circle is up and running. That's right. Yeah. So as you all know, except for Sue, because you didn't participate in our circles. I'm sorry. And so our, we basically, we ran over, ran over, we ran through some of the language that we were developing and kind of gave you guys some of the, I guess, conceptual things that we were, you know, really landing on with the strategic planning project. And so I have a few like to-dos here for you all. And then, so maybe we'll do the kind of logistical stuff first and then we'll do the maybe exciting creative stuff. Okay. So we need to confirm the date. And you may remember from December that part of the process is that the board, Nathan would like to have a retreat with the board as the next step. And we had planned for, I'll just throw that out there again. We are March 28th and March 30th are open. So now the option was to have either two one and a half hour meetings, which is, I believe what we all said in December that that sounded more attractive than one three hour meeting. No. Okay. So there's a few kind of menu of choices after that is that maybe we do a an hour and a half on the 28th of March. And then in April for our board meeting, we can add another hour and a half as a retreat or do that. We were kind of just throwing out ideas internally. And so that we weren't sure about time commitments. So if you were trying to do the one and a half hours because you didn't have the three hours to really kind of commit in a month, we're saying, okay, so if we did one and a half hours in the middle, like between one and then maybe figure out, like, do the other hour and a half that instead of the meeting or part of the meeting or do like a truncated board meeting that goes through and then say, okay, this is the rest of the strategic plan. So, or if the three hour commitment is fine, but you just didn't want to do it in one fell swoop because it's a lot of time, then we could just do two dates in March. So we weren't sure exactly where people felt about that time commitment. If it was better to split it up across months so that you could cogitate and ponder and things like that. Or if it was between just two dates within March would be okay. And these available dates are based on Nathan's availability? Yes, but, you know, for some reason, the majority of you can't do that. So 328 or 330. Yeah. And I think it's a Tuesday and Thursday. I was going to say we try to pull it because it's similar to like if we were having a board meeting so around that fourth, like so we tried to do it the same week that normally we would do a board meeting. Those are two options for one and if we want to do one and a half and one and a half in the same month, that would be right next to each other. Yeah, they'd be the 28th and 30th. I mean, it seems like I don't know how much cogitating needs to happen between things. I feel like we would probably break our rhythm up and we would spend half of the second one trying to remember what we were talking about. I think that's what Nathan was saying that, you know, if you want to split it up, it might be better to do it Tuesday and Thursday. What's the agenda on it? So I think that that, we do have some items, but it's really. Yeah, what's the idea? So I think based on Nathan's scope, what we're hoping to achieve at this retreat would be we would go over goals and objectives and maybe look at accountability or programming things that would feed into the goals and objectives so that we could come up with the, I think we're hoping to come up with a plan. And at some point also it would be, I think we were hoping to do a community needs assessment. So that would also be maybe some questions that we're trying to find out about from the community that we could come up with. So I think mainly though it is to flesh out the goals and outcomes we're looking to try to achieve. And I think because we did a lot of the work hopefully within our circles and now so that we don't, we could come to an agreement about the mission and where we stand on vision and values and whether we feel like we need a vision or if we need a, if we wanted to do a public facing value set or if we wanted to have the values as something just internal and determining how we choose our goals and objectives. So I think that, that retreat if we don't come to an agreement about vision, mission and values here that'd be something that we would work on within that retreat is if you know there needed to be more. Right so I guess that kind of creative ask of us now right now is that we threw up the new mission statement on the board here and this is what we've kind of distilled it down to. So we thought that we could get solidarity around this new mission statement and kind of then what we heard from our circles just to reiterate what Jen is saying is that the vision was less important and we were kind of and you know if the end goal of our strategic plan is to have some solid goals and objectives that are like informed by values right whether those values are public facing or just internally for how we organize ourselves right that's kind of what's going to come out of the retreat some most of that language is been developed by the three of us and with Nathan and so I think what we're asking of you guys in March is to kind of contribute some ideas to kind of tear it apart a little bit and then to hopefully land on something. But right now you know we can kind of look at this again which is what you heard in the circles and we can say okay this is cool we're happy with this and that we don't have to spend time on the mission statement in the retreat. Is that makes sense? Okay yeah okay and we can focus on the goals and objectives which I think are going to be a little bit more detail-oriented obviously and and a little bit value-packed whether we have yeah anyway so but maybe first we want to land on the date or I don't know if it's helpful to like take the date with you and respond I could send you an email tomorrow or something and we could all confirm. I can tell you that I can do any of them right now and I'd prefer to book it sooner rather than later so it's on the calendar and I don't put anything else there. My personal preference is for more shorter meetings just because I hit a point where I don't contribute after 90 minutes but if we did do one longer meeting I would ask that we start a little earlier than our traditional board meetings so that we were a little bit fresher. Yeah I'd say even if we do break it up I'd love to be earlier. Yeah absolutely. So the Tuesday I would say. The 28th. And so an earlier meeting on Tuesday the 28th with the intent of doing it all in one long. I could definitely do that. I'm going to put it in. So four to seven on maybe the 28th. Is four too early? With enough notice I can be here at four. Yeah push three, three, six. Could be four thirty to seven thirty two and there's a lot of ways to do it. But I really I do like the idea of starting earlier I think we'll be in a better mindset. It was easy the 28th, four to seven. Okay it's in. You don't want to send an email to our Chris and pull us on. I'll send an email to Burmese so that you can. Yeah all right 28th it's four. So it's I'm leaving it up. I'm leaving the orchestra strategic retreat. We're going to lock down three whole hours. Yeah and maybe we'll finish early. I think it's like you know we had a three hour meeting plan for the Greenmont Film Festival and we went two and a half hours and maybe 65 degrees and it's beyond. So you're thinking like what we're talking about is that the mission statement as a kind of a guiding light for creating the goals and moving forward right as a. Exactly. Yes so I think the mission we agreed up is to say we say we did have a vision and values. So you know in the the drawing right the vision is the world view you know how you see the world the mission is what you're actually doing to kind of contribute to that world view and then values you know I think our part and parcel of the vision but values to me are like really like bullet points that you can translate to okay now now you have the goals and objectives are what somebody is actually looking at the grantor the public and they're saying oh the goal is to have more young people involved the objective is to pay them and this way that way or to reach out to the schools and that's because the value was that you know we value our local youth and we want them maybe that's a poor example but like you know the value might be that we want to increase diversity so diversity of age diversity of who's coming in here right increase our reach so does that make sense so this I think is the simplest thing to just wrap our heads around right now because it's like this is almost just like a the espresso version of what we already had right so it's like we had we had a kind of a a complicated one that was like three run-on sentences and now we're the thing that I think we we agreed upon was that we're really facilitating engagement in community and government by doing what by providing video production training and distribution services which is what all of the the ATV organizations are saying I think the key word and maybe the most difficult word is the word communities right because there are local communities there are LGBTQ communities there are migrant justice communities they all call themselves communities that's why we're saying that so it just seems to me that it winds up of facing the issue of what communities are we going to prioritize and what are there was other ones I think that's can't do it in geography we need to do it with the rationale that the already exists in the ones the ones that are there calling themselves communities so and I think that like leaving it broad in the mission when we do our goals and objectives and that's where the values might kick in of determining like what's our priority how are we determining the goal and what type of outcome are we looking at and that's where those values will be I think Michael said it in our reading that internal rudder of how you know how do we determine which goals like maybe we're looking at underserved communities and that's going to be this focus where the strategic plan is reaching out to those underserved communities and having them use us and so that's where that because our value is toward equity and inclusion so that's how we have chosen this goal. My other comment with that is that for me I feel like there were some things there that were too too wide for interpretation like you know providing free video what does that I mean what does that mean distribution services is many things is are you going to deliver DVDs to places like the has to be unpacked a little bit you know we used to I know I know but you know is that you know I felt it was too that was too distribution services has to be unpacked so it's clear exactly what you mean by it or define it or at least define it and then providing free video to whom what type of free video I mean I agree yeah I think that's that's been the issue of where even three of us have been like well how did we say that in the clearest way yeah so dramatically we can kind of change this around too. I would say that so I just did this with the Waterbury Public Library and we ended up boiling it down to a very brief fraud mission statement which didn't get it all into I would say the specifics like providing free video production so my version would be something like Orca Media facilitates engagement in local communities and government period and then it's in everything else it's in the strategic plan it's in the that that you really define it so that but I'm comfortable with this and if and if you this is a different kind of organization so if you feel like you need to like make it clear that it's video production that you're talking about I can live with that but but that's that would be no I'm happy you said that because I feel like I could go both ways I feel like it yeah I agree with I agree yeah because what what if it's not video one day we're providing hologram services that's exactly yeah yeah well we revisited the Waterbury Public Library like the old like long word emission statement it was talking about like books on cd and all this stuff and it was like oops you know that's really not relevant but the high level stuff that's always going to be you're always going to facilitate engagement in local communities and government so from now every video everything you produce is going to be free no but that's not I was going to say so I mean we do have some free services but we're not saying everything and I don't think the mission statement says yeah that we're going to that's everything that we're offering is going to be free but we do have free I see there's everything is free well yeah to a degree everything is free I would say that it's very very few people that are engaging with our services and resources that are paying for anything if they are it's like a donation yeah so I think I would like those things can't be defined that could be like behind the scenes defined that they need to be defined much better it doesn't need to be clear so does anybody feel like the word media it needs to be in there at all I mean like I was thinking if we have like thoughts of a radio station on the books that just and government through media production training and distribution so maybe removing video free and and free yeah and distribution services does sound like it could be very robust oh that's just saying distribution is might solve it because you're now you're not defining it as like an unoffered service to the world yeah I think the reason we landed on free is because that differentiates us from like a production company right where the production company there's an assumed charge because they need to make in the video look when we said media covers so much could be website could be print media it could be so many things on the website might have a radio station video is very you know specific yeah yeah so that's an option and I and I'm glad you guys are throwing that out there and another thing that you know I hear from the band folks is that they're just saying media resource and services you know they're that's that's the community media center provides a resource and a service so the resource would be production and service would be distribution entry right I think I'm glad that you said the community media center thing because I have like the greater philosophical sort of wandering about like I hear that a lot of the band language and you hear we're pivoting away from being access to media community media and I feel like it's said a lot but I'm not sure exactly what how it's community it's translating into action and that's the thing that my biggest concern with the with the statement is I think that we need to view it through that lens and like what exactly do we mean by community media center and what does that then translate in into our mission statement or whatever this is because because it's what we have to start disentangling at least in people's minds the the the sense of the community access I think to in for long term especially hearing the financial stuff earlier from jen it's like we need to start getting yeah and you say that it's like parts of it outside of the free stuff too you know parts of there's gonna have to be revenue generation somehow from some other areas you know it's in something community media it's going to be where I think we're that with that I mean it would be a we'd say community twice but I have thought about like saying you know community media center in this so you could say like hork immediate is a community media center that facilitates you know then you're then you're defining what it is and what you do that's so that's very place specific and we're covering a region so I'm a little a little hesitant about oh right yeah center yeah yeah that's true then the problem I have is that the first two lines I think almost everybody defines themselves as that the food co-op probably says the same thing I mean just saying that it doesn't the specificity of what we do needs to be in our mission statement and it could be that it might be that we say by providing professionals trained skills in in media and production values just examples the kind of things that we think are specific to this organization not the food co-op not the government you know not the church which is why I think we landed on production training and distribution because that's all those are all also the measurable things that we turn in every year to okay you know those are you know they're not super you know attractive so somebody brings a project already done we just put it online right so that would be a distribution yeah by the way media would be graphic would be so we're going to do graphic also along with bylaws there's usually two documents and usually the articles have something like a mission statement that define them through ban you mean or through orca I don't remember is the final way to be a status would have those documents right we probably the actual like non-profit application yeah maybe we're not submission really ready to land on this and and it would be helpful to look at the bylaws and the any kind of like founding documents that we might have yeah yeah that may be full of outdated words I'm sure in there that it does say yeah that telecommunications organization just like our mission statement says yeah our mission statement has a lot of I really I like the phrase by providing media production training and distribution I feel like that because I don't think we want to get two into the weeds I think that manages it really well yeah as a mission you really like you don't want to get into the specifics and that's the issue is that like maybe who's the the best at the grammar is that you know we're these we're saying media production media training and media distribution right exactly I think that by providing media production training and distribution I think it captures all of that that's semi-full or something I think just commas is the way to go I think by providing media production comma training and distribution I don't even know if you need a comma after training well actually you probably do comma after that in order to get this yeah losing the word services somehow does get you I think that works really well I'm not not worrying about yeah what exactly services but the word distribution covers kind of generally yeah that's one of our lot of metrics yeah yeah and then the details happen in the strategic plan and then that's when we can define yeah which I think is very important we define what community media means us because community media is not public media because public media as we know is something different that is yeah yeah it is and the real effort is with access to the word he's even different it's you know developing Canada it's totally different oh it's true I know when you get in you don't go down the Wikipedia access so okay well that's great I like that I mean we don't and no pressure but you know this is this I think this will play in but not too much yeah this would be I think if we if we did say you know and like Jen said we don't have to we can agree that we like this but we're not going to be using it on some of the whole strategic planning process right we want to capture it in the minute so we want to leave it as a conversation for now well I was going to say if we could sit because then that way we can give that to Nathan saying this is our mission so that he can develop the retreat around it if it's if we're in agreement I think any board member could move to accept and if it gets a second I mean we could move the ball down field if you wanted to I have a question for strategic planning is are they does that look like there are motions and that is not a Robert you'll work that's not a structure where we would move to accept the vision statement or the maybe not the end when it's like we accept the whole prop for the strategic planning document you know that wouldn't be run like in terms of motions and that's why he's calling it a retreat this is a visioning retreat so I don't know if there'd be decisions made out of strategic planning retreat that would have to be brought to a board meeting and just kind of ratify ratify ratify yeah that's what I'm mentioning yeah just like kind of how we've been trying to be efficient and take it to you guys yeah yeah and then um so this replaces a mission we already have or potentially we presently do not have a vision statement or a sort of values piece Nathan is recommending we do so Nathan is kind of showing us that he's showing us the way and what other people do and you know and kind of giving us an idea of what maybe yeah he's not pitching an essential piece that we're missing or anything like I think he's in in agreements with us that maybe the world view you know if you look at rural Vermont which has been I think some inspiration to us they're it's very ambitious it's like you know their world view is to like have organic farms everywhere and hunger or something right and it's like it's amazing right and like and then the mission is also really broad about like doing everything they can to advocate and and educate and and that and then they have values and they have goals and objectives I think we're trying to say okay we're not maybe we're not going to change the world you know so like but we're going to at least change you know the community by allowing them to have access to what we what we can provide yeah and then I was going to say I'm going to I'm also though I was like this is our first strategic plan for us so if we don't have a mission I feel like you know just coming up with a strategic plan would be enough and that maybe you know if it's as we read like with strategic planning it's always something that comes up every five years or what have you that at that point maybe a little bit further down it could I would be okay with like okay now we're ready for a vision because we've done this we thought in the strategic planning way and it's like okay now we're ready to say I'm ready for a vision or public facing values but for us to say you know let's if we can come up with a new mission statement and some solid goals and objectives and outcomes that that would be for that first you know our first venue or entree into the strategic planning world would be okay so I'm almost like you know I don't know if it's really super necessary to have a vision at this point or even post-retreat that if we were you know and if our time is limited in our our thinking capacity is like kind of limited in that we're trying to get all the stuff done in this retreat that if we came out with like no vision I would be like I'm willing to say maybe in a few years that's something we could embark on yeah just Nathan run this thing it's the three hours are they with Nathan yeah with Nathan and us I'd rather run with you guys. Well some of paying someone is set up outside set of eyes and some of those how to run. I definitely like this idea of setting things up to have like measurable and goals and targets and stuff that we can hit like if having values helps do that then okay fine you know but it's not pragmatic I'm not super concerned about it personally. Yeah but the good thing about having things like this is that when you have a problem you could always go back to that also that could answer like we've had issues in the past about charging services and other things where we don't know and having this it would be it's clear cut yes or no. Absolutely. I like that at some point I not work on this now but we need to have this at some point so that we could always come back to this and how does this what they're asking us to do fit within our mission doesn't fall into this yeah at that level. Yeah I totally agree and it's going to inform everything else when we visit policies and procedures and yeah great so I think so did we document that and I just wrote it down here. I wrote down the what I feel like is the the strongest mission statement that's come out of this conversation which is Borca media facilitates engagement in local communities and government by providing media production training and distribution I think that hits a really nice balance between the trend towards the big broad statement that we see in mission statements these days but also bringing it down to actual media production training distribution which I think are your really key focus points here but it doesn't get into the weeds it doesn't get into the details and it doesn't use language that's going to immediately be outdated in a couple years so I like that but I don't like I'm trying to read the room and see if people feel like they're ready to vote on it or if this is more just to capture. I think I think we should just let it percolate and yeah and it sounds like letting that what we have now roll into the yeah that's fine yeah and it's great I think this is great but I think you should so I'll note it as a draft statement but I really want to capture that language because I think it sounds really good and we do have in case someone comes in with a with an eraser. We also should look at what we've done and each one of us say how does what we've done all of what we've done fit into this statement because we now have the record of what we really do and have done and is there some things that we've done that we don't do anymore or there are some new things that we've added to what was done in the old days and how they both fit into that statement besides going into the vision in the future so that's an exercise that maybe Nathan could give us five minutes on. No I think that's a great idea I mean because it's like a lot of us have more historical knowledge of the organization and I think that you know just from what I know is that by reading this it does capture I think even in a more coherent way this is what we're already doing and have been doing for the last 10 years so and it also embraces what we are mission that we're a mission driven organization that we you know we want to do more of that. So we're going to pick a Tuesday and a Thursday in March? We've got the Tuesday so 28th right yeah we we got it four to seven and I have a draft email I'm going to send it to Elevate to remind me. We've massaged the mission so would you guys hope to accomplish anything more under agenda item six strategic planning update? That's it. Oh about the values I think that was the other bit of whether we can use that just as an internal rudder versus a public facing like list out of values and also if you want to think about this in terms of the values would determine the lens of how we would do our goals and objectives and so if the values that I think we all kind of shared with you in our circles if there's any changes to those values or I mean I don't know how much time was spent I know in my circle we kind of just looked at it but not really like pondered it but if those values need to be adjusted or if under you know you disagree with any of those values as an internal rudder to like decide our goals and outcomes that that was another thing that we would be giving to Nathan as as prep for his retreat of yes we looked at the values and this is this is where we're feeling that our values are. Does that make sense? So um was that a little homework you just gave? I was going to say yeah if you know we're going to relate this but if if you could come back as you're cogitating over the mission and you can also cogitate over the values that we've put out there to say that is fitting with what you know of ORCA and the mission. That's good. Okay yeah we'll read those. I guess I think this one. A motion to accept the strategic planning update makes sense it's its own agenda item does that make sense? Does this move take sense? Anyone want to so move to accept the strategic planning update? I'll second this. Okay chat followed by Carlos. A motion of accept strategic planning update please indicate by saying aye. Aye. And a post. Is your name? And um we're heading into business old and new so I don't know what you'd be. I don't know. You'd be both? Yeah yeah so this is um my last board meeting. I think it's time to hand the reins over to somebody else and I just want to say it's been a pleasure and a privilege to serve on the board and I hope to continue working with ORCA as a camera operator and with Green Mountain Film Festival a little bit. I started working with ORCA. I learned how I did the camera operator training a long long time ago and then I spent a number of years producing my own videos and films um and um probably from 2000 to 2015, 16 and then 2017 I started working as a camera operator so you know I feel very deeply connected to ORCA. It means a lot to me and I wanted to continue to prosper and grow in great ways so thanks for the opportunity and uh and I'll see you. That was very beautiful and we wish you could do it for the camera because that would be good documentation. Well hold on a second and we also asked you to be big service. You do right? That's kind of a real lesson to do. We brought a cake. Thank you. Thank you for everything. We'll send it out to anyone who wants to dig in and chocolate and deliciousness so. Come on we're on the board too. I think I did them in 16 about there. Wow. Wow. So it's in a yeah. Thank you everybody. You think you'll keep on camera operating on occasion? Yeah. You know once a week I seem to do it. That's great. And it's fun you know I really like the engagement with yeah you know the people that you're filming and and the people here so it's great thing. So we aren't we aren't going to have you go through an exit interview but we'd like to pump stuff out of you so if you want to write anything like an exit interview. I don't know. You might you might tap it on the shoulder and that's all I wouldn't even have to come in or maybe you're in picking up a camera anyways but yeah there's gonna be a brain picking afterwards. I'll be here tomorrow morning. Look at that. Yeah we'll connect with you and that would be good about that. Yeah yeah what you see is our strength. That's about we did write some questions there. Oh yeah what I can contribute at this point. Cool. Thank you. I'll put this right on my retreat here. Yes and don't don't forget I was staying in the loop. Good for me too so again. Yeah so that's that's exciting. We're happy to honor your service. Other business. Is that Rachel? Yeah that's kind of Rachel and I talk and she is feeling as though she won't be able to meet the responsibilities especially as we head into the strategic planning kind of ramping up all in circles. I think the model will ask a little bit more not a crazy amount of from before but she said trouble just getting regular board meetings and it's just kind of done an honest assessment but it's it's not in a kind of an obvious completion place but that conversation is kind of I'm just asking staff to follow up with her and see if it's you know she would like to continue in some capacity is this a hiatus or is she a reserve as a potential board member later but she's remains a huge fan and it's just kind of just taking her pulse and her position got a lot big I think they kind of maybe folded two jobs into a job that kind of thing so we could keep her as a consultant to the board that's great I mean yeah so just step right out of getting the final definition out of that sure but um she got some clarity there and I don't know if Sue your process was months like how did how did you come to this conclusion well that's a combination of things you know I think that there there needs to be new blood and and I'm getting older and feeling older and not wanting to go tonight meetings so that's another thing um those are basically the two defining factors yeah I mean I think Rachel doesn't have much time available that's that's it um yeah what about my daughter and I was just thinking I think it's the evening meetings are prohibitive I think so that is yeah I can't imagine a day meeting but it is um a responsibility and the only pay is the pizza and the satisfaction so it just reminds all of us thank you thank you one and all for putting the time so for new members are we like if we we need to get new members are we at a foreign members the bylaws call for um room for nine and at least seven and I think if I think with Rachel becoming official but I mean maybe the next April meeting is she can make it and there's cake for her like that just you know it needs a sense of I think yeah I don't know about that yeah yeah you know that would bring us to seven so we would be we would be sitting on our minimum and and I think it's part of strategic planning is you know um yeah getting the board you know maybe back up tonight but I like odd numbers it's a little tricky to sit on but those are tiebreakers yes exactly um so that is there other new and or old business so I did hear at the state house I don't know if it's new business that that there is going to be a push I hung out there last week for the um the I forget what they called it the creative network updating to the legislators and stuff like that shook hands with people and talked about filmmaking and bored people probably but I didn't hear that there is going to be an emphasis from from some people um I can't divulge too much that in in a focus in that the communities are going to have resources that people will be able to tap into for um arts practitioners and media practitioners and so that's going to become a focus um some of the creative network arts council sort of area maybe looking at that soon yeah nice thanks for keeping an ear on that as it develops would it make any sense for us sometime to do something like uh when we have a board meeting and then finish this work to invite somebody like um Katie Trouts to come in and talk to what what our relationship with the city itself and the live arts my period live project she's done such amazing stuff as a community builder with music and now with the Montpey you're alive did she take over as the director okay so it just seems like she's a key person we would want to be connected to and uh and and a lot of what she might do could be benefited could benefit our being involved in either camera operators or uh just supporters okay she's trying absolutely and I think that they would appreciate that and there's also she is making a push toward um expanding what Montpey you're alive the appeal to it so there's not exactly just shop-owning businesses getting more benefits for people who do businesses that are um you know not retail stores in downtown but all of the business uh owners and stuff yeah restaurants which is primarily the focus all their events all everything all the benefits really benefit the retail stores um and so it would definitely be worth reaching out and and figuring out how yeah a relationship because I can see that it says she might be interested in in uh doing a show every week I mean because she's a very community building person oh yeah yeah you know a newsletter she sends out like a big news letter yeah she's running her own music festival it's really quite remarkable what she does besides playing out in the newsletter link to you know work a highlight of the week or whatever it's something like that that would be awesome that would be cool to connect with her yeah um and more new business accept a movement to adjourn 806 well I move