 The manager gets tossed, but they win this one. Six-two, and Aaron Boone gave us all a show. Did you like the tie, right? I mean, we liked it, it was fun to watch. I'll tell you what, I hate to be one of his kids in his house and leave the milk out or spill the milk out. Tighten it up around here, right? No, that was awesome. And I think even, you know, what he said, you know, I feel bad for you the way you started. And just the expressions that he used, I mean, he got his point across, and if you're the Empire, you're sitting there going, man, this is not the way I wanted to start the day at all. But he had a point. I mean, there, the strike zone was a bit wide, you know, wasn't favorable for his hitters. He went out and fought for his players and the team responded. You know, with the technology today, I mean, you have the video and the replay camera, your projection right behind you in the dugouts anymore. So, you know, he's getting feedback from those guys that are not very far away. And so he had a legitimate argument. Well, and I remember when we played way back when we'd have to run up to the video room, ask the video guy to pull up the pitch. They'd have to find it on tape and it would take forever. And it'd be maybe two innings. And you'd finally go, oh yeah, that pitch was this far out. Now, as TC mentioned, you get it like that. Terry, can you remember any stories where you got ejected like that? You told me one about Anaheim. There was a time with Murphy. David Wright and Daniel Murphy in the same minute got kicked out of a game arguing balls and strikes. It was a seventh inning. So I went out to argue with the umpire about kicking them out of the game. And all of a sudden, God bless America came on. So I had to take my hat off and kept the argument going. So you couldn't even get it going. I couldn't even have a big argument with him. You had to respect the country and then get into the umpire. I mean, that's exciting, E.K., from a player's perspective. You know the Brett Gardner. He loved that. He was clapping. You love it when your manager sticks up for you. You like to see the fire. And there's certain times when you go out there and as a manager, as a player, you're doing it to send a message. I think though, in this situation, there wasn't a message. Aaron Boone just thought that the home plate umpire was horse blank. I mean, and that's the bottom line. And Aaron went out there and he expressed it. And so, I don't think he was trying to defend it. I think he was just tired of what he was seeing over the course of a few innings. By the way, they are already, and this is a true story, printing the T-shirts that say, my guys are savages in the box. I love it. I'm gonna order my wine. I'm ordering mine right after the show. And Narris isn't helping his chances of getting that suspension lowered by yelling at the other team. Yeah, not a good looking. You know who had a problem with it? It was Max Muncie. Check out what he said after the game. He said, well, Narris got the save and he looked right into our dugout and screamed as loud as he can. And he yelled, expletive you. He's blown about eight saves against us over the last two years. So I guess he was finally excited to get one. Whatever. All right, so what do you think, E.K.? You like his reaction to Narris? Well, so I guarantee you that they got in the clubhouse and they talked about it. You know, Narris was emotional. And should he have looked at the Dodger dugout and dropped the FU? No, you can't do that. I mean, I get he's excited. But look at the way the Dodgers played this series. You know, a couple of nights earlier, Narris hits David Fries. Did the Dodgers retaliate at all during this? No, they didn't and, you know, I understand the Phillies are reeling right now. They're looking for something. They need something to make themselves feel good. Narris needs something to pump himself up. They're emotional because they're right now, they're circling, right? And I get that they're a playoff team and all that, but they're certainly not playing like one. Emotional, yes. The Dodgers response. I mean, the Dodgers really right now, the Phillies are like a fly on their shoulder. It's like we don't really care. We'll move on, but have a little respect. I mean, the reason Narris is hitting people is he struggled against the Dodgers. He's a 27 ERA in three appearances. And I will tell you one thing about baseball players, they have great memories. So there'll be another time and another place. Should they have done something? I don't think so. Again, I think Eric's right. I think right now, the way the Dodgers are playing, the last thing they need is to start problems. Hey, look, we just moved on. You know what, we lost big deal. We're gonna, we'll get them tomorrow. But it's, TC was saying earlier, there will be a time. There will be a time. Somebody will pay for free. Yeah, they'll play again this year. No, it won't be, you know, but it'll be a time. And how much does a manager get involved? I mean, did you tell guys to retaliate or did they take care of themselves? Well, I've done both. You know, there was, there was a time, I mean, in Anaheim one time where we had an issue with one of my players getting knocked down and I actually told Ken Griffey Jr. Look, if we're gonna, if somebody's gonna pay for it's gonna be you. You know, I was taught when I first got to the major leagues as a manager, that if you're gonna hit somebody, you better hit the star to retaliate. Yeah, who told you that? Tony Roosa told me that. Tony Roosa, the hall of fame manager, I would listen to what he has to say. It was Ken like, what's up, do you, why do you have to hit me? But I'm sure I didn't like it. He said, who do you want me to hit? Joey Cora? I mean, you can hit the big guy on the other team. So, and the reason you do that is because then the big guy will go to the pitch and say, look, I'm not big on getting hit. So, you know what, why don't you quit hitting me? And you know, it happened in Montreal, Pedro Martinez and Larry Walker. So that's how you solve it.