 Like if I had not had any other option, it would have rebooted in time. You know what, I've just had it. I've had it with hair and everything. Are you going to shave it off? Is it going to get rid of it? You need to take my advice. There are times where I'm like... I had the fastest haircut. I'm not going to say it's that good. Fastest haircut I've ever had on Sunday. Because I went in and I was like, I just need something that I don't have to do anything to. And this woman, she was like, okay, we will give you a haircut. I think it looks very nice. It's what you sound like. Her name was Sonia. I would not let anyone... I would be scared to have them cut my hair. Well, my hair is so long that unless you do something drastic, like getting a trim, it doesn't look any different. It just keeps it from growing forever. But there's not much... It's hard to screw up. Well, that's your other direction. Just let it keep going and see how far it can go. Well, we're getting there. I'm not sure what I'm trying to prove. But I'm like, just take an inch off every few months. Climb my hair. See, I don't want to make anybody offended. But with black hair, black people's hair, you have to get one barber. You have to keep them for life. Our hair is very specific. I can't walk in a supercut. And not that anybody goes there. But I can't walk in there and just cut my hair. They can't do it right. So I've had my same barber last five, six years that I live here. He's the only one that's touching that. See, I... Well, and my hair's more adaptable than that. But even then, I liked having my one person who cut my hair in San Francisco. She was great. And it was really sad to move away. I still haven't found a person... Oh, you haven't found a person here. Yeah. I mean, you go to my hairstylist. I don't know if you guys would love each other, but I love her. I'm very... Yeah, I'm very much like... You're touching up. And I'm going to be sitting there for a while. It's important that you like the person. Oh, yeah. The one in San Francisco was paid for by CNET at first, which is... She was a little more expensive, but she was really good. Her name was Irina. She was from Ukraine originally. Nice. You know, I don't even need to like him. I just need to have enough confidence that what I tell them to do will be translated into their hair. I don't need... Yeah, I just want them to be able to do what I need. No, we got to be Facebook friends. Yeah, yeah. He explained it every time. When I was a kid, I remember getting a haircut at Supercuts. And the guy, I think, had Tourette's because all he was doing was swearing behind my head. Hey, Roger. I was like, I don't think I ever wanted... Roger. Roger. What month is it? Sorry. I don't get the joke. Oh, sorry. I get it. I get it. I get it. Supercuts at fifth grade. That's a very pivotal grade in a young man's life. I'm stuck in that month, Tom. It's ground month today. They gave me a bald spot. They gave you a bald spot? Oh, yeah. They gave me a bald spot because my mom was like, oh, they're the only ones that open today. Let's just try them. They're new and they're only $5. Yeah. Yeah, I see why mom wanted to do it. I was... I had to go to school like that. Oh, man. I think the first time I got a perm, which was a thing back in the day. That was out of supercuts. And it was like, my mom was just sort of like, well, if you're going to do this, we're going to do it as cheaply as possible. Because we don't even know if this is a good idea. And it, I don't know, probably looked horrible. Okay. Are we ready? Real quick. The quickest... No discussion, right? Just goes bam, bam, bam. Yep. Okay. Gotcha. One-liners are perfectly acceptable, but yeah, no conversation. Gotcha. Okay. Okay. Here we go. Everything's backwards, because I have a different setup. So, hope I do this right. Three, two... Daily Tech News Show is powered by its audience, not outside organizations. To find out more, head to DailyTechNewsShow.com slash support. This is the Daily Tech News for Monday, March 5th, 2018 from DTNS headquarters in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt. And from Studio Fila, and I'm Sarah Lane. And from I Think It's Sunny in LA, I'm Lamar Wilson. And also, boy, we're just all LA area, so Angelino-centric. Can we get outside at least the 110 freeway? Roger Chang, our producer. Yes. I am by the 134 and 5. There we go. We're learning more about you every day. You're a mere... Nuggets of information. We're going to have an assignment for Roger before the end of the show. Oh, no. Homework. I'm telling you. We've got... It involves eating. Ooh. What are you on, Ed? I love eating. I look like I love eating. Let's go. All right. Let's start with the big tech things you should know. The New York Times sources say that Google is selling restaurant review service it's a got to online restaurant reviewer the infatuation. The sources say the infatuation will continue its curated reviews and keeps the get as a separate brand. I'm sad about this. I like Zagat. Zagat I believe. Zagat I believe. Facebook has been testing allowing publishers to use a red breaking tag on news once a day and up to five times a month. The tag goes away up to 15 minutes to six hours. Facebook is expanding the test to 50 additional publishers in North America, Latin America, Europe and Australia. Xiaomi CEO Lei Jun told the Wall Street Journal that the company plans to start selling phones in the United States by the end of 2018 or at latest early 2019. Xiaomi has some partnerships already with US retailers because they sell things like headphones and other accessories. Xiaomi is also considering an IPO later this year. Let's talk a little more about food that Roger is going to have to investigate. Lamar. Yes, he is. Yeah. This is all an AI-enabled robot has begun making hamburgers for public consumption at Cali Burger in Pasadena, California. I've got to try this. Miso Robotics has been testing the robot at the location and plans to bring it to 50 of Cali Burger's international locations. Now, the robot is called Flippi. It's called $60,000 with a 20% recurring annual maintenance fee. Oh, that's really cheap. Well, it's cheaper than an actual person, isn't it? Is it really? Well, over time, if you use it for three years. Yeah, absolutely. Well, because you don't have to worry about, you know, limited hours and multiple folks. I don't know what their benefits package looks like, but robots usually don't need those. 20% maintenance fee makes a lot of sense. Depends on how many burgers Flippi is flipping throughout the day. I have not heard of Cali Burger before. There were a lot of burger chains, certainly in the Los Angeles area, which Pasadena is part of. Hey, if it tastes good, I don't want to put anybody out of work, but I don't see much wrong with this. It seems like a no-brainer. Yeah, I feel like there's some people who will be, like, scared. Oh, they're going to not make my burger right or put computer chips in it or something. And it's like... Well, I do a lot. Yeah, that's the way it is. Yeah, you know, six to one-and-a-half dozen. I feel as though, and I don't spend a ton of time in fast food chains, but there's plenty of automation that has been happening for some time. And we've seen sort of little one-off restaurants, particularly in Japan, where robots are doing quite well. So in that sense, it just sort of makes sense. I like the fact that they called it flippy, like we need the robot to be sort of a cute friend of ours to go to Cali Burger. Listen, this is a stunt for me, so robotics to show off what it can do. This is not intimately practical, but it is an impressive bit of robotics. It's a stunt for Cali Burger to get people in and eat their burgers. Roger, are you willing to brave this? Because this is not that far from your house. I can go over and get video of the product being cooked, and I will try eating one. Although I will say if it's not good, I won't finish it. That's fine. That's totally fair. That feels fair. Mars, sounds like your game, too. I'm already there. There's another part of me that's already left nobody. Big fan of burgers, even robotic burgers, not a problem. Sources tell Bloomberg's Mark Gurman and Debbie Wu that Apple's working on new Apple branded noise canceling over ear headphones that are closer to models it already offers under the Beats brand rather than Airpods. Apple's said to be trying to launch the headphones before the end of the year, however, has hit development problems and could end the project entirely. Meanwhile, KGI analyst Ming-Chi Quo repeated expectations for new iPhones we've heard about this, also updated Airpods coming from Apple this year. Also, though, for the first time, we've heard a new cheaper MacBook Air model might be on the way expected as early as spring. No kidding. So nothing surprising then. It's been three years since they really... I mean, I did a spec update last June for the MacBook Air, but it doesn't shock me that they'd be like, oh, it's about time for new MacBook Air, new Airpods. Yeah, sure. Okay, they've been around for a couple of years almost now. New iPhones, they do every year. None of these rumors just feel like shockers. Tom and I were talking about this this morning because I always know that he's going to heave a sigh every time I say, want to talk about Apple rumors? There's another one today. But the headphones part of it was kind of surprising to me because the Beats brand has been part of Apple for some time now and sure, I guess you could think of it as like MacBook Pro versus the cheapest MacBook Air. I mean, there are certain you have a scale of quality of product, but why wouldn't they just make a really cool new Beats branded? I can probably answer that. I am guessing that they've done these research in the stores and seen that Apple hardcore Apple users are still not touching the Beats brand. I think even though it's been part of Apple they still see it as this other brand of cheaper or overexposed headphones and products and they just won't buy them. I have few friends who are like that. They only will buy the Apple branded stuff. So just take the Beats headphones and sell them as Apple. I mean, that's what I would why is this so difficult to develop unless they're doing unless like Apple does and I'll give them to sometimes they develop like they did with the AirPods a new system that works differently and that might be what they're after here is to try to change it in a way that's unexpected but if all you want to do is sell headphones to people who don't like the Beats brand just tell them under the Apple brand done, you're in. I guess it would remain to be seen if the new headphones come to fruition and it doesn't sound like that's a given but it's rumored at least the company is working on something like this does the Beats brand eventually go away? Does it become a lower cost version of the champion headphones the new cool Apple headphones and there just isn't brand distinction anymore. That would be my guess. The Guardian reported that in one of its user surveys seen this weekend Facebook asked a question about how to handle a private message in which an adult man theoretically asks a 14 year old girl for sexual pictures. They're saying if this happened how should Facebook handle it? Now that practice is unambiguously illegal and Facebook already has policies prohibiting it they already know how they handle it and how they have to handle it. Guy Rosen, VP of product of Facebook tweeted after the Guardian article came out that that question should not have been part of the survey. You don't say Guy. I looked at the choices and I was like, okay is this entrapment? Are they trying to round up all the remaining pedals out there? It should be allowed on Facebook. I wouldn't mind seeing it. Come on. You're not saying that. That's one of the options that can be selected. Very clear. That was my first thought as well. If it's illegal and Facebook already has a policy that you can't do this, what would be the point in asking me, hey, Sarah what do you think we should do about it? You've got four choices here. And one of those choices is it's cool if that wouldn't somehow come to bite me later on. And I'm not even saying, oh I'm a monster and I think that it should be okay. What if I just wasn't paying attention and all of a sudden I'm on some weird Facebook list of people that should be watched. That's a good point. That's a really good point. Two things to keep in mind and I'm not trying to let Facebook off the hook in any way here. Two things to keep in mind is it is conceivable that these are in fact anonymous. I know it's Facebook and that's hard to believe sometimes but they may not in fact be collating, although they haven't asked tech crunch's very pointed question about that yet. They need to answer that and tell us one way or the other if this information was anonymous or not. Because that makes a big difference as you guys have well pointed out. Second is in an actual scientific survey, not a survey where you assume Facebook says, hey we want to do it this way, let's find out if people are okay with that. But in an actual scientific survey, you might ask this question as a calibration to say like, all right we found out 4% of our audience actually answered a very obvious question in a way that is not obvious. That tells us something about the sample, right? And so it's the assumption is Facebook is asking something because they either don't know what the answer is or want to do something different. That doesn't have to be the case. You may ask a question in a scientifically valid survey because you know the answer and you want to see how that audience responds given the fact that you know the answer. I'm not saying that's what they're doing either, but that is another possibility to consider. Absolutely. It's just so the subject matter is so I mean you go to jail for this stuff. Inclamatory would be the word. It's hard to believe that there couldn't have been another question in a scientific way. Yeah, share my Facebook. I would assume that Facebook will have more to say on this that Guy Rosen is probably like who did this? Why did this happen? Yes. So the verge of last evolved was among the many attendees at Mobile World Congress last week who noticed how many Android phones were adding notches for cameras and sensors similar to the iPhones except that the notch does not usually do recognition and the OS is not often adapted to account for the space. Now the Suze Zenfone 5 for instance touted as notches being 20% smaller than a Fruit Phone X. But it still has a bezel at the bottom. Leaks of the LG G7 also show a notch. Leaks of the Huawei P20 also look like they have a notch but still with the bezel on the bottom as well. What is going on Tom? It sounds like a lot of companies are putting in a notch because they want people to think it looks like an iPhone and buy it. The notch should not be a feature. It's not something we should like and love. No. It's the thing that I've learned to live with on both my Essential Phone and the iPhone X. But in both cases they have a reason why they put it there. A lot of these phones don't. That's just silly. Well I heard about this in our Patreon Slack last week because everybody there knows I like cats so thanks to everybody who pinged me about it but this is a story that I think the rest of you will love. The next web talk to the creator of something called OpenCat. It's an open source robotic cat design created by Rong Zhang Li assistant professor at Wake Forest University. Li says he started making a pan-tilt camera for Raspberry Pi with two infrared lights and then the camera kind of started a reminder of a cat so it became so it's a serious advance in quadruped movement if you really think about it. Longstanding challenge is two models. There's a smaller one that runs on Arduino and then the larger Raspberry Pi model which he says will target to the consumer market. Li told the next web that you don't have to ensure the robot responds to human instructions every time so people might think well she hears me but she just doesn't care like a real cat. Just like a real cat which is true. I definitely know this. We also have a link in our show notes to the project which is under the GPL3 plus license which is at Haxster.io and there's a longer URL. Loving this I have two real cats so I mean they probably would not enjoy the robot cat and quite frankly it looks less like a cat and more just like a cool robot but hey we're getting somewhere right? I bow move over. I'm a cat lover and I don't have any cats yet but I was thinking robot cat no more litter bucks, no feeding I could go on vacation for weeks at a time. I must have, thank you Sarah so much I need to get this. Well I didn't make it. The coolest thing is both of you could make it you 3D print the parts you get an Arduino or a Raspberry Pi and he's got all of the code at Haxster.io for you to put this thing together and program it. It's not terribly easy but you can do it. He's open sourced it. I also love the fact where he's like and don't worry if it doesn't really work that well it's just like a real cat. Yeah exactly. It's a wonderful fudge factor. The demos are pretty impressive though like he's able to have it run and trot and react to you or do some basic facial recognition. Do it make sounds when you touch it both purring meowing and playing tunes like tapping it on the back so it's pretty cool looking. Yeah all robots they open doors for each other now. They're looking more and more like household animals. It's a great world. A black mirror. Okay let's continue. You know what the old saying, when a robot opens a door it comes for you. Run. To get all the tech headlines each day in about 5 minutes subscribe to Daily Tech Headlines at DailyTechHeadlines.com You can get it on the Amazon Echo in the Google Home on the Anchor app and of course as a podcast you can find out all the information at DailyTechHeadlines.com So we talked about this back in February when Twitch first announced new rules but they're now in effect. So we wanted to talk to Lamar a little bit about how people out there on the internet are feeling about these new Twitch rules. Let me remind folks what they are. One is you as a streamer are now expected to not turn a blind eye and absolve yourself of responsibility of what your audience does. The rule specifically says you must make a good faith effort to quell any efforts from those in your community to harass others. So if you see it happening you're supposed to make a good faith effort to stop it. Twitch should not be used to incite, encourage, promote, facilitate or organize hateful conduct or harassment whether on or off Twitch. That's one that's got people's attention because if you do something over on Twitter and they can reasonably connect you as a streamer to that and they think that it's meant to harass the same kind of people that use Twitch they say will use that as evidence for a suspension. And there's a whole other thing about a tire that basically says that you should wear what would be publicly appropriate for the context location and activity. So it's okay to wear a swimsuit if you're streaming from the beach, but if you're in your house and there's no other reason for the swimsuit and it's prurient maybe they're going to come after you for it. Lamar, all three of these have got people a little bit nervous. Absolutely. It's really on fire. If you type in TOS and Twitch on Twitter you get to see the stream. Just to be fair, there are people who say, hey great we're tired of all of these Cam girls who get all this attention because they're showing their chess and we're tired of so and so streamer telling his fans to go out and trash another streamer that's good. But this is big brother element of hey if I'm on Twitch and I'm a partner in here, something that I or my fans might say on Twitter or on YouTube or on Mixer or somewhere else you know Twitch could penalize me for that. So there's two things there's the fan aspect so someone can go and say hey I'm a Lamar Wilson fan. I hate your your unboxings are awful. His are the best F you and go on and on can I be responsible for that? Well according to the service depending on the situation Twitch could say hey you didn't do a good no job to keep your fans in check and can ban me off the site. That's the worst case scenario but that's something people are worried about but yeah the offsite thing is really huge right now and big Twitter users excuse me Twitch users are very upset the other really big one that not many people are talking about is past streams. They literally told partners a couple months ago hey we're going to do this you need to go through your past streams any that you did any of this stuff you better delete them because if we find them we're not going to suspend you but we're going to delete them and we need to find them. So it's it's a very stressful time right now for the streamer and people want to say hey we're going to go somewhere else. You know as somebody who is less familiar with the Twitch community but you know enough to sort of understand where they're coming from a lot of this feels like okay this is you know it's an effort to make the community more you know a safer place for everybody to be of people feeling a rest all the time on a community that continues to grow but if I compare it to something like YouTube comments right which are notoriously like the worst ever or just you know crappy things that people reply to me on Twitter sometimes it's like it's a strange gray area of the network saying well we're not going to do it but if we think that you're not trying hard enough to like turn everyone else's attitude around then we're going to punish you and if Twitter were to say to me hey Sarah why didn't you block that guy who said something really nasty to you on Twitter it's like I don't know I didn't see it or I didn't feel like it or you know that kind of thing so it's like and then I don't even know what to do about the entire stuff I think if you're saying like no nudity okay but the whole kind of like what's appropriate for your content is like I'm not going to do the show on my bathing suit ever but if I did it's not wrong is it wrong on Twitch but not on you know something like Patreon so it's it's it's yeah there's there are a lot of more questions arise really for me so here's the thing right if you're the good person looking to make things better you see that people are saying well you never told me it was inappropriate to wear this G string so how you can't ban me you can't suspend me so you're like look let's come up with some reasonable rules just wear things that are appropriate to the context okay that everybody should be able to agree with that but there's always people willing to push the line and so when people push the line say well wait a minute what's your definition of appropriate I can't wear a swimsuit ever that's ridiculous I stream from the beach every day so then Twitch goes fine fine know what we mean is like yeah if you're at the beach in your swimsuit that's great but what you would wear out in public is what you should wear on your stream and then people say well look at all these people in workout gear what Twitch is probably trying to say is we're not after you we're after these people who are over the line but we didn't have a really good rule so we made a rule that will allow them to go after us but we're not after you however the problem with those kinds of vague rules is that the next person in that position might interpret them differently a person with with a axe to grind might interpret them differently and so people like Sarah say well wait a minute you know I don't want to necessarily wear a swimsuit on the show but if I did one day I shouldn't get banned for that or if I accidentally let someone say something in chat that I didn't catch is that a good faith effort how do I know here's what they're doing and the surface of just being kind of part of the Twitch community I don't stream but I'm part of some people's communities they are really bringing it back to just TV thing you know they reboot it with gaming now they're pushing a lot of people to see Casey Neistat right now who's doing a daily IRL almost daily IRL stream they're really pushing IRL the problem with IRL right now is that it's really messy people are doing some really crazy things then you have the situation with some people's audiences what do you call it when they call the police on you and you're swatting they're about to roll out a huge creative portion and so they need to get people in order for that so I think it's going to affect those people more versus the gamer so for the most part fine you know it's they're worried about the potential backlash you'll get for all these other streams that are coming up yeah and it is one of those things that the people who push the line are more concerned with and I'm not saying when I say people who push the line that they're bad people but some people are like yeah I want to push the envelope I want to try and be experimental and that's important you need people to do that and if they can't tell where the line is that makes it more difficult it makes it more difficult to tell the good actors and the bad actors to be honest thanks to all those who participate in our subreddit you can submit stories of vote on them at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com and at our facebook group facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show Sarah thing of the day yes Tom let's check in with Chris Christensen for a home tech tip for travelers this is Chris Christensen from amateur traveler with another tech in travel minute we've talked about different travel apps on this segment and I want to bring up an app which has been talked about on the show before but not necessarily as being a travel app and that is the ring app we usually have somebody at our house because we do hosting for Airbnb and so the house is very seldom empty but over the Christmas break just turns out that all our renters were off on various trips and such and so we installed a ring doorbell and it's very easy to install it just hooks up to your regular doorbells wires we installed probably less than half an hour and then you can use the ring app you have to buy their service to use that in a long haul to see when people are coming when there's motion at your front door or even to answer the front door from some place remote as long as you have access to the internet so think about that as a travel app to give you a little home security while you're on the road. I'm Chris Christensen from Amateur Traveler. And newly acquired by Amazon Ring doorbell. Yeah real quick and if you want to like really get in with your neighbors that you know they have this neighborhood section where you can see where people are being overly paranoid about someone coming up to the door and they post it and you get an alert and get to watch the video of them you know worrying about a man sitting in front of his front of their house in a car and then you know it's the same thing I see on next door taking to the next level. It's great drama to watch. Well hey if somebody's actually being shady outside of your building great but if your neighbor just doesn't like that guy Jimmy just likes to sit in his car and I'm not just I didn't just make up a name or a thing that happens probably happening right now to be honest. Alright let's check the mail bag Sarah. I wrote a really cool article that everybody should check out DailyTechNewShow.com about being an Uber driver and says because we talked about this last Friday with Brian Brushwood wanted to respond to Brian's question about why people continue to drive if the wages are so low. Well what I found is that those who stick with the gig more than six months are either entrepreneurs who've figured out the system enough to make a decent profit. Part-timer is just doing it for some spare change so the low wages aren't that big a deal for less skilled laborers who can't make ends meet through a traditional employment. That last group in particular may be somewhat trapped in the gig even if they don't really like it because they're trying to pay off a car lease or a rental or they've got living expenses that they're having a hard time covering so they're putting in 80 plus hours weekly hoping for a lucky break to make enough to put food on the table. Yeah and he says I was right that he's still driving on a part-time basis so there you go. That you were right because you had I think it was important to point out that I was I just meant that that's what he meant. Yeah thank you Sakane for writing in on that and if you haven't checked out his your private driver columns he's got a bunch of them up there at DailyTechNewShow.com we'll have a link to this one in particular. And you know just before we move on on the subject of saying like if you're only making an average of like three something an hour that I've definitely been in a lot of Uber cars particularly where I'm from which is not it's more of it like a rural area than a metro area and it's like a lot of the drivers are like I'm retired I'm just kind of bored this is fun it's not necessarily always about making money there's there there are other factors sometimes. Elamar I know this is a little bit LA centric but there's a lot of people in LA and there's a tech fair going on that you noticed happening on March 8th at the Reef. Yeah I looked through this this newsletter I get we like LA.com every week. We love we like LA. Yeah we like LA it's okay you know if we want to do things in LA and yeah I know I haven't seen a tech fair in some years and that was kind of fascinating this is a job fair but it's going to include people like YouTube Snapchat Ticketmaster Experian a lot of different companies are going to be there so it's March 8th from 10 APM the link will be in the show notes I'm sure and yeah I I have a couple friends who I know looking for jobs I may have them go I may shop you know to pop up myself to see kind of what you choose talking about kind of jobs you're looking for I hear their up and comer that you do. Yeah there might be something big one day. Well thanks for the info I had not heard about it so that's just one thing that Lamar Wilson has brought to you this fine Monday Lamar what else is going on in your life that people should know about and where can they keep up with your work well I am like the unboxer gamer want to be type of YouTuber so you know I post weekly content on YouTube you can check that out at youtube.com slash Lamar Wilson this week will be some Nintendo switch type unboxings, PlayStation 4 maybe even some more food tests because people like those for some reason so yeah if you're into any of that stuff I just open the discord as well which is scary it's scary to have this new community that I'm managing so that's been terrifying my nights trying to moderate that so yeah so that yeah all of that stuff and you know want to follow me on Twitter whatever it's Lamar Wilson everywhere. To ours L-A-M-A-R-R-W-I-L-S-O-N Thank you so much. 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mice that's cute burgerbot do you want chips with that and ignores you like a real cat then let me see if I can is there any twitch stuff bait and twitter a notch is not a feature is kind of good too like that a notch is not a feature only because I yelled it screamed it also might get the minecraft fans like me watching this show and then loving it and subscribing not hey wait oh he doesn't work there anymore never mind hey they still very influential though yeah notch is not a feature I'm in that's a good one I like that a notch is not a feature this is not a pipe you didn't tweet the link oh you tweet the link from the daily the DTS twitter account okay yeah I didn't I didn't see that one well I'll push the show in my hey in my discord oh yeah do it in the ask it's actually kind of growing pretty fast but I haven't even pushed it on youtube yet oh wow yeah you'll get a bunch of folks once you do that I'm sure yeah we have a nice little discord we don't push it much either but it's tied in with patreon so you can just go into it if you connect your patreon account to it then it automatically shows up yep oh goodness ooh goodness so do we have any leftover topics that we want to we're talking about something right up till showtime and all food I think we're somewhere here where we works well you all the famous people where all you all works oh no we were talking about living situations like sharing bathrooms and stuff I think I shared about the San Francisco yeah the shared I'm too old I'm too old I can't do that anymore to share well you do this thing what is it called you do this thing called marriage and family what is this thing yeah but you know you're a lot less like I'm a lot less you know I'm not as guarded with my wife as like I am with my movie oh how can you spend so much time in the bathroom you know you don't want to say like your wife walks in while you dress you're like get out of here oh my god I don't care everything's that needs that that I would be ashamed to be seen has already been sawn oh wow sawn unless you meant something involving a sawn yeah then we have many questions um I don't know roommates I mean this is the thing if you get a really good roommate you could probably be the best experience in the world if you don't have a very good roommate experience all your other roommate experiences tend to be colored by that I notice all of my you know they said to be a little bit younger in their 20s whatever the friends I have now like everybody in LA especially they're on YouTube most of them live with other people so when I tell them I live I've been here for almost six years alone they can't comprehend it well you've been able to afford the rent I was like I make sure I afford it because I'm not living with people like I just I don't want I don't want to be in a YouTube house that's just that's a nightmare I thought I thought you're gonna say I didn't say I could afford it I said I did it I don't yeah it's been a long time since I had a roommate that was like you know like not like a partner of any kind and it has been fine and then there have been I've had lots of roommates over the years it's been fine and it's been less fine never horrible but you when you live alone you get really used to that so it's like it's not that I don't want the idea of another person that I got along with it's like that doesn't bother me it's more of just like oh now just all of these things that I've you know sort of splayed out would have to be reimagined yeah yeah so you're only child like I was so yeah you just used to having your own is that a selfishness it's just you're used to your own space people don't really understand selfish in that way though like you were selfish about your privacy you're like I don't want to share all this stuff about my I think though that at some point it's going to be because I am like you guys even though I wasn't an only child I like having my own space I generally preferred to live alone when I could afford it and yet I think as I'm getting older like maybe I want my own room my own apartment but I want to be in a community because when I'm old I don't want to be alone not just I mean there's obviously like what if I break my hip and fall over and nobody's around not even just that but just like I want to have people to hang out with people to talk to I want to well Tom and your age is called a nursing home so yeah a community with built-in you said it with people to hang out with and I won't be alone yeah folks to steal my underwear it'll be your kind of version of waiting for waiting for God no the waiting for Godot no you mean Tom is not that old I was kidding that was that BBC comedy like it was just like a nursing home or like a retirement home it's called waiting for God or something I want to do what my what my uncle and aunt did because I think that was the smartest thing and he's he thought in D-day during World War II like he's he was old but they bought into a community in Springfield, Missouri where they had their own house but they bought into the community such that at any point when they couldn't handle the house anymore and needed more day to day assistance they would move they could move into in the same property area a smaller place that had like people coming into the cleaning and stuff and then then sort of when if things got more serious and they couldn't take care of themselves then there was a more nursing home like situation and my as my uncle said you know as I as I get older they keep moving me up the hill basically but became familiar with everyone in the community and how everything worked so that when you did move from one place to the other it wasn't a huge change right which is one of the biggest problems with nursing homes a lot of times you it's like in an unfamiliar area with people you've never seen before and all of that yeah I know what they used to do in the tribes yeah well you know both of my grandmothers because my parents are from Los Gatos both of them lived in a retirement community exactly like what you're describing Tom it started as an apartment like pretty nice apartments and then it was like yeah if you need a little you know kind of downsize and be checked up on a little bit more and then you know eventually it was very much you know kind of hospice I mean they both passed away in this community you know and and you know it's sort of you know it's sort of sad to watch anybody that's old you know sort of deteriorate but it was when they first moved in it was like what is the rent that's crazy really really expensive but when you ran out of money you didn't get kicked out you were there for the rest of your life even if you didn't have any more money so you know the rest of the family sort of like well there goes our inheritance but it actually worked out really well especially for you know women who you know their husbands had died a long time ago and well it actually works out better in some ways because then you're not left like one of the things that I that I dread about my parents or anyone you know my wife's my wife's father passed away it's just there's so much stuff you need to deal with like so much paperwork so much legal stuff and it's just like that's what I'm more concerned about that than anything else like what am I going to do it's a nightmare trust me my my grandma Roxy lived in an assisted living like really minimally assisted living situation at the end of her life she never went into a nursing home though she was all basically she lived in an apartment that was subsidized for seniors and they provided in-home cleaning which she would clean before the provided in-home cleaning person would show up every week she wouldn't be embarrassed in front of the in-home cleaning person and then that person would laugh at her and complain like you didn't leave me anything to do and then my my grandparents they both my grandpa died in his house he never had he just had a heart attack a died so he never went to a nursing home and my my grandma on that side she she made it to the last couple years she she had to spend the last couple years in nursing home because of Alzheimer's but she made it pretty far so I'm kind of you know crossing my fingers that you got inherited those I got inherited some of that longevity so I could avoid the worst of it but I still don't want to be you know as as much of a loner as I like to be sometimes as much as I just like to be left alone it's one of the reasons I like working from home I don't want to I don't want to be so alone when I'm old because it's harder to make friends as you get older I mean I don't consider myself all that old I mean older than I used to be but I already have that issue I love working from home in the sense that like it's very flexible you know if I don't want to take a shower until I need to you know I have less you know certain things that you have to answer to when you're in an office environment where I'm like I can kind of do things my way sometimes I also say like I mean besides you guys it's like I haven't seen anybody I haven't talked to anybody except you know besides the guys you know at the corner store when I get half and half it's like it can sort of feel lonely after a while we're like I need to like be in public or something that's one of the reasons the last place I lived from here was I was holding down friends before he was going to sell it a really really big house like Tom Tom was there just a really nice place you know but it was in the middle of to me in the middle of nowhere and I had the same issue like friend it was so far away friends didn't want to come visit or it's like more of a hassle like Tom came I had my helicopter that I could take yeah but after about six months I said you know what I grew up in high-rise apartment buildings that's what I know that's what I'm comfortable with so moving to a public community and I love it like I have friends that pop up every day or every other day as much as I need them to and so I don't you know or I can just hang out in the common areas I don't ever feel like as alone as I did in Europe kind of like the situation you mentioned Sarah because I definitely have those situations where you know what because I bought enough food for the week it's like I haven't seen people in four days well and that's why I think a lot of these we work or you know even like the variety of co-working spaces that I know a lot of people who belong to them and I'm like that's even more money to like go ahead you know like what in the world but but I I think for some people it makes a lot of sense for us not so much because we need these sort of more controlled environments to do what we do but but yeah I mean there's there's there is something to that I don't know human interaction who knew yeah you need some it turns out yeah my best friend from from childhood and I we've already made our pact you know some people say like if we're not married by this age we'll marry each other she and I don't want to marry each other but we do want to move in together when we're old and gray I'll see that's that's good it's like it would be great like let's not do it right now like but you know when we when we really need each other then because right now I can jump in a car and I can go somewhere and I could you know I have people I could call be like hey you want to get coffee or whatever but I worry that if I'm old I won't be able to jump in the car I'll lose track or my friends will all die or whatever I want to have that built-in community I wouldn't I guess the perfect situation would be an apartment that's all my own right you know with a with a room and everything but then a community out that I could easily go out and find people that I didn't mind hanging out with public complexes are also for that I think it's really most noticeable when you live by yourself but and you get sick and then it kind of dawns on you's like I really got to do all this myself I'm retching into a plastic bag I got to haul myself why does that be a plastic bag okay some sort of a poet Sarah he's trying to paint a picture does no one have a bucket jeez plastic bag I don't even have anyone to bring me a bucket all alone plastic bag from the liquor store exactly it's not like I have a convenient you know personal sized bucket I can use when I get sick right I use those plastic bags you get at the supermarket because I reuse them I'm retching you kind of realize when you're there shivering under the sheets because you're running a fever even though it's like 80 degrees outside and you think you're gonna die it's like crap I really need a hand on some of this stuff well and even you know at any age it's like you know I know I was talking about how much I like living way out at the beach but for anybody who lives in LA it's like I'm on one side of a very large area and some of people you know people that I care about very much are just not very near me it's like it would be inconvenient for them to like just swing by unless we've planned it in advance or even swim by or even swim by right even if they're really good swimmers they'd have to go around I don't know but the Panama Canal but yeah it's like you know there's lots of factors that you know you don't want to like I mean some people want to cut themselves off from all other humans and sometimes some people are robots who want to kill all humans some are robots yeah they can't might want to kill all of us just ignore humans so that's not going to help either robot cat is going to ignore me like a real cat it's like my beloved felines get me aid and just kind of look at you they do the cat equivalent of a shrug not feeling it and then a dog will come over start looking look in your face and bark in excitedly but like none of them can physically like pick you up and put you in a chair and call 911 and say hey I need emergency services nah that's why you need your robot pal that's why you do that's why you need Siri that's the goal in Japan is to create a robot for for aged care that you don't necessarily need a human but a robot could like oh this person's in distress I'll run sub routine number 7 fold them in a briefcase and mail them out oh my oh my alright I'm about to suggest we wrap up Roger says something extremely depressing alright see y'all tomorrow