 Shannon Morse with Decon 30 here and I am over at the Blue Team Village. I am so excited to speak to both of you today. Thank you so much for joining me. Thanks for having us. Absolutely. Oh my goodness. I am very very new to Blue Teaming and I think that speaks true of how people look at things like Blue Teaming and Red Teaming as a kind of having a barrier to entry. And I would love to chat with you today about how the Blue Team Village is really welcoming to folks that want to get into this and are not really sure how. Right so for anybody watching this join our online community on Discord. There is no barrier to entry. We don't care if you've been doing it for 10 years or if just yesterday you read something interesting and you think InfoSec might be right for you. Yeah. That that concept pervades everything we do. So this year one of the programs one of the many programs we have is something we call Obsidian and we're providing content for for Blue Teamers and we could talk a little bit about Obsidian later but we're providing the content the raw content for people to learn join the community have conversations instead of just one class. Yeah. Have ongoing conversations and then even within the program itself so we have leaders in Obsidian we have people analysts doing the work if you're brand new and you want to be on the project we're saying come in be the next group of people to do this next year or the year after so constant training is something that is just it's built into our DNA. And this is something that absolutely has no barrier to entry. It's it's free of charge. Free of charge. Anybody can go into the village. Tools are open source. Oh that's wonderful to hear and where can people find out more about how they can get access to the Blue Team Village assets. Right. So there's a couple places you can start at Blue Team Village.org our website. Most of the other ways of getting to information are there but if you want to get the data the Obsidian data that's at media.blueteamvillage.org and then we will be posting all of the talks on YouTube not all the talks but all of the pre-recorded talks will be on YouTube and we'll be providing all of the slide decks on our GitHub repo. Oh perfect I'm so happy to hear that. Everything everything we've done everything nothing's held back it all goes back to the community. I love that about Duffcon. Like everything here is very community driven. Everyone is so excited to be here. I've noticed throughout the couple of days your village is packed. There was a line out the door the other day. It was almost impossible for me to get in there and ask for an interview. And it's wonderful to see so many people interested. Another thing I've noticed is how red teaming tends to get a lot of popularity. It's very very interesting because people love to be on the attack but blue teaming is defensive. It's extremely important especially to careers. It's lucrative for people to get into. I would love to chat about the importance of blue team village as well and blue teaming in general. Well I've talked a lot so I'll take over. Yeah I mean I'm personally I'm I am like pure pure blue teamer which I mean my hair my glasses. I know if you couldn't tell. Yeah I get that I get the comments sometimes. But yeah I think it's kind of we have we always have like a joking rivalry with with red team village. And you know we wouldn't neither of us would be here without the other. Exactly. Exactly. And vice versa. And you know a lot of the content that we provide is to be honest I think it's really what convinces employers to send their folks to Defcon to learn. Absolutely. And you know once once they have a connection to content that they actually can apply to work in their real lives then everything else is kind of getting deeper and deeper and deeper into you know tooling and tactics and technology in general. So we also blue team village runs year round. We have an active discord community. Really. Yeah. Oh yeah. One of the things that we do that we started a couple of years ago was a mentor program. So me and a mentor basically is we have a mentor matching. We do panels. We'll do like many workshops and things like that. That's awesome. We run lightning talks. We give people a chance to present for the first time to a small community. And you know and and that we've helped people get jobs. I mean just from that from connections from resume reviews things like that. That's amazing. You know I really think that you know red teaming is great but blue teaming is kind of where where we can connect passion and learning with actual industry and employment which you know unfortunately we all need money to live so we do. So it's kind of a core piece of that as well. You mean I have to buy groceries. What I have to pay my mortgage. Come on. Now I also would love to mention the CTF that's running this weekend. Tell me all about it. So we we kind of looked at with a project of city and just to give a real quick overview of it is we created a fictitious company in it's all in AWS. We staffed it with fictitious fictitious employees. They send each other email and then we had a red team come in and do three different compromises. We call them kill chain one kill chain two kill chain three. Nice. Right. So all of the content that we have is based on that. Okay. Digital forensics incident response threat hunting cyber threat intelligence malware reverse engineer all looking at the same data so that if you do if you come here and you're interested in incident response and then you think well I'd like to know a little about malware reverse engineering you already have the background. That's awesome. So that is the CTF the CTF is really all of that content just put into a CTF. So if you go to the talks if you download the data if you do the analysis yourself if you talk in the community you're doing the CTF. So cool. And then you can get on the CTF enter your answers in you know typical CTF form. But the idea is it's all the same data. It's all preventing having to relearn the the compromise or the or the project make the project central and then just look at it five different ways. Yeah. I appreciate that you're making this so easy for people to get into blue teaming is so important to infrastructure to agency to to home networks to pretty much everything in this world. It's something that we definitely need and we need more people getting into it as their careers. No doubt about it and just to add on top of that you have people that may never even know that this is available to them. Absolutely. So by saying we don't care who you are we don't care where you come from. We need people come join us be a part of the conversation. Yes we can reach people that may not are not reachable through other other means. And to end this interview let's mention let's mention the badge because the badge looks really cool. It is it is really cool. I know it's sold out now but yeah yeah that's a good thing. Yeah. I don't have a good example of the the regular one we have a staff version has little screens pretty cool. Yeah. The the other one we made is the same board so nice big blue team village it's our fifth anniversary. Cool. So we went big with everything. Congratulations. That's so cool. Got some blanky lights in there SAO connectors. I mean I'm I'm just overwhelmed by how great response we got to it you know into little SAO's and you know people I mean really people come to Jeff Khan for the swag right. Oh totally. I mean I do. I come to for there's several things I come for it's work because I do Threat Wire. It's a meeting all all my friends and bringing home as many electronic badges that I can get my hands on. 100% 100% yes but going to the villages. We'll make more next year. We'll definitely be back next year and we'll bring all the swag and blanky lights that we possibly can. Well I know I know you mentioned it earlier but where can people find out more? So Blue Team Village dot orgs based for everything. It has a link to our active discord community. We are here around like I mentioned. Awesome. The Metroprogram link is there. The project obsidian information is there as well. You can get to everything from Blue Team Village dot org and we're on Twitter at Blue Team Village. Thank you so much for joining me today. I appreciate chatting with both of you. Now go have some more fun.