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I was just happy to see some sisters coming together, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, these young ladies here are a little bit different, huh? They do golf, right? Am I right? Yes. And you got Sharon. Sharon, I think her name's Sharon. I'm messing it up. I got you. You got Sharon. And you got Dr. Carol. You're a doctor. I am. And you got Joy. With an eye. And I'm. And you got Donna. You know what, y'all ain't gonna act right. You got Donna, right? That's right. Man, so, hey, man, like we wanted to try to understand sisters in golf, right? Mm-hmm. Women in golf, right? Diamonds on the green. You really don't see this. So this is something different for me. So I guess I wanna start off. You wanna start off? Yeah, I wanna start off. No, I got it. I figured you wanted to. I got it. Because I know growing up as kids, y'all was never thinking about golf. I played as a child. As a child? Who was it? I was seven years old when I started. Seven. Yes. Okay, you know, when you think about people playing golf, especially as kids, the first thing, this might be a scenario. Tell me if I'm wrong or right. Y'all was rich. Y'all got some money. No. You're out there with money. I can help you with that. Everything was donated to the organization I played with. Okay, I was just checking because that is a scenario that a lot of people think about. Am I right? Yeah, that is, but I grew up in South Central. We didn't have. South Central where? Los Angeles. Okay, I was just checking, because when I was in South Central, the first place you think about is LA. So I was just checking. Wow. Okay, so that's where you learned, was in LA? Yes. Okay, so let me start off with you. What was it like growing up in LA? South Central, because when you think about South Central, seeing the movies, gangs, violence, all of that. Well, I think about Ice Cube, how to survive in South Central. It's frog. You know that? Frog. Survival mode, right? Yeah, I've grown up in LA, I saw a lot. A lot of the people I grew up are no longer here. So that was my getaway, playing golf. I got away from everything, I got away from reality. Because it was hard, you're seeing drive-bys, car chases in front of your house, helicopters every night. Like that was how I went to sleep. I heard the helicopter every night, so. It was my getaway. I was able to travel and go different places and meet different people. So I enjoyed it. Were you in a household with your mom and dad? Yes. Okay. That's good, and a brother, so you were the only girl. Actually, I have two sisters and a brother. I'm the baby. Oh, you're the baby. There's a big gap between us all. Oh, okay. Yeah. So how did you end up in golf? You said, so walk me down that, because. Hold on, hold on, before you go. I wanna talk about this helicopter that's going over your house. You know, I watched boys in the hood and he was swinging in the air on that porch. I might not have seen it, but, and it was helicopters coming over and he was sick and tired of it and he kept, he was frustrated. And you think about the movies, they did that movie. We interviewed Lunzo the other week and that was his house, they were shooting boys in the hood in it. And like you think about this perception that they made up and how realistic it was for those guys like Ice Cube and those guys coming together and doing those movies. So was that, would you say that's kind of relatively the truth? Yeah. I mean, you get tired of it, you do. But at that time, it was my life. I couldn't get away from it. And so that was Crips and Bloods and everything else. Yeah. I lived in a Crip area. Yeah, I figured that. I've seen the blu-ray. Because baby, cause I'm a thing. I was like, now I tell you. So tell me, how did you end up playing golf at seven? What organization was that and how did, was that brought to your appearance? My dad's a good friend at the time. He worked for a newspaper in LA. And so they were having registration for golf and he was writing on it. So he was like, oh, sign Joy up. It might be something she wanna do. And so my dad signed me up. And at first I was like, oh, I don't know. But it, you know, I met my really good friends there. And at that time it was Western States Golf Association. So, I don't care that stuff. She went to college on a golf scholarship. You can tell them that. Yeah, that's whole. A little scholarship, yeah. So you got good. Really good. I graduated from Jackson State University. Damn, that's hard. Let's talk about, you know, you jumped in with the particular right there, I seen that. Sure, oh, she went, okay. So we wanna know about the, you know, just the way that this whole organization started as well. But we wanna get into how you even got into golf and as well. Okay, well, I played all sports. But, you know, when I was growing up you didn't see a lot of us playing golf. So I wasn't introduced to it. But after you get a certain age, you know, there's only certain things that you can do. So my daughter, I used to coach my daughter's volleyball team and she didn't wanna play anymore. So I'm like, hmm. So one day I went out to the golf course and I didn't see any of us. I said, you know what? I think there's probably other women like me that wanna learn how to play but don't know how to get started. So I put a post on Facebook and said, hey, I'm looking to start a women's golf organization. I had an overwhelming amount of responses. And at that time you knew how to play? I didn't know how to play. I just wanted to do something different. And then the fact that I didn't see a lot of African-Americans out there that kind of motivated me to try to start something. So I had over 50 women that came out that was interested. I pitched the goal or, you know, my vision at top ball. Started the chapter here and I always say that. And you got an instructor? Got an instructor. Okay. More or less like self-talk. Oh, okay. That's what I was wondering. Yes, self-talk. So my vision was just to keep it here in Texas. Well, I wasn't dreaming big enough. God saw a bigger vision for me. So since I started in 2018, we've expanded to 10 different states, over 25 chapters, over 300 women. And the name of the organization? Diamonds on the Green. Sharon, did you ever expect it to get this large? Did you expect it to grow that fast? No, I didn't think that there were women, African-American women that was interested in it. So you started in 2018? 2018, five years ago. Wow. And so you guys have been consistently going as well. I think that's dope. I think that's live. So like when you started this, now what have you seen? What was the thing, the obstacles that you had to face trying to keep this going? Even today, as early as yesterday, you don't see a lot of us. Yesterday I played in a golf tournament and when I walked on a golf course, I was, I don't wanna say the name. No, no, no, what area? It's a rock wall. So I was the only one African-American woman and my partner, he was the only African-American man. So we were paired up with another couple. So we were kind of late because of traffic. Well, I walked by him, he says, oh, you're late. I said, oh, okay, this is how we gonna start out, right? So when people look at us, they think that we're just cute and we don't know how to golf. So we get to the first tee and he goes, well, we gonna tee off on the white tee. Normally when I play with me and I play, I shoot from the white tees. So I let them shoot. I said, well, I'm gonna shoot from the white tees and he kind of like looked like, oh, I'll shoot him. You know? Right. So I hit my ball, we go to our balls. His ball was over here, my ball was directly across from his. I said, is this your ball? He says, yeah. I said, oh, there's my ball right there. I said, I wasn't too late, was I? Yeah. Oh man. So, I mean, we know that it's probably a predominantly male driven sport, right? Like, how tough is it just convincing one like that, that you guys are credible. You have to pretty much whoop up on him first. Yeah, yeah. You have to let them know that, hey, I can play. So first couple of holes, you know, I was driving right with them and I had to gain that respect and let him know. So did you get that respect after that? And I said, you know what? I'm gonna play for the Red Tees with your wife now and he just turned me red. Wow. So yeah. I think that's awesome. I know for me, me and my best friend, you know, as juniors, the men didn't want to play with us. And the courses that we played at were black courses, you know, and they never want to play with us. So we're like, okay, go ahead and go. And so me and my best friend, she's actually a diamond in California, Tierra. We would hit over their heads on purpose while they're standing and moving, just hit over their heads. Like, can we go around y'all cause y'all moving too slow, right? You get no respect as a woman. Man. Couple of things I wanted to say because you know how when you first started it and had so many women actually came out to support it? When I think about that, when you said that, I was thinking about, cause yes, it was a male-driven sport and most of these men are married or have their woman at home and but they wouldn't come because they didn't have, they're like, it's boring or they didn't know anything about it. So to me, it gave them something to do to, you know, with their partner. But some men I would assume was like, no, you need to stay home. And that's the beauty of it. So the men can go and play with the men and you can have your wife come play with us. But it's also a sport, regardless of how tall you are, how small you are, we can still play together. So I think- And be competitive. And be competitive, yeah. This is a sport that you can play, you know, to your last breath. If you think about it, a lot of the athletes who end up retiring from their sport, football, basketball, they end up playing golf. I said that earlier in another podcast. And also if you think about it, in golf you don't have a lot of the injuries that come along with the other sports. Do men and women normally compete against each other? No, they have women's flight and men's flight. So when you play in a golf tournament, no, unless you have a co-ed tournament, like the one I played in yesterday, it was a couples' tournament. Only then will you be paired up with another man. Do you think men and women should have more tournaments played against each other? Yeah, I mean, I think it's fun. I mean, it's a sport that you can play with your significant other. It's a sport that you can play with your kids. Like I said, it's a sport that you can play until your last breath. Yeah. The one that I played in yesterday was a lot of fun. And I think if we bring more awareness to our culture, a lot more of us will come out there. With diamonds, we kind of change the narrative because we have our dreams, we have our music, we have fun. Y'all, turn up. Yeah. Yeah. Dr. Carol, Ms. Carol. What's the heat? Yeah, are you, okay, so how did you first get into golf? So I started taking lessons probably 18 years ago and ended up getting pregnant. So that was a wrap. And I came back to the game in March of last year and started dragging the one that I was pregnant with, my 17-year-old daughter now out with me. And we were doing a lesson in mom's old. So mom was like, let me sit down for a minute. And the coach said, let me see what you got. She hit that ball and she was a natural. He said, she needs to be on somebody's golf team. And so now that is my broke bestie. And we joined Diamonds on the Green together. We play in tournaments together. Actually, all of my kids play and I play with my husband. I got them all out there. So when Sharon's talking about, it doesn't matter with Diamonds on the Green, they welcomed me. It wasn't about skill level. We've got beginners out there. We do clinics to help people get better, learn the skills, learn golf etiquette. So we're not going out there and getting those looks. When we show up, we're ready to play. We're equipped to play. We know the rules and we can play with the best of them. If you don't know the form properly, can you get injured swinging that golf club? Oh, yes. I have serious back injury right now. Well, but then I've played so long, but yeah, I have a back-back from golf. Mr. Ron, go ahead and just tell me how to, I mean, what is the most rememberable case where somebody came to you and golf helped them to find peace, find, you know what I'm saying? To get away from all their troubles, they found you. They're happy for you. That's all I have to say. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, and I tell the ladies, we deal with a lot of things from day to day, one being women and being African-American women. So when you step out on that golf course and I love to tee off early in the morning, the smell of the fresh cut grass, the sunset, that takes me away from my everyday struggles and joy. She just makes me cry because it's like, we connected. Not only was it for her safe haven, but it was for me as well. Golf brought us together. You just never know what an individual is going through. But when you step out on that golf course, all of that go away. It all goes away. And we don't want to forget about this woman in the back, Donna. Donna. Donna. She's trying to hide. I'm not trying to hide. We just want to see, you evidently love golf and you're here. I love golf. So how did you end up even being a part of this diamond? I actually met Sharon through a client of mine. He introduced me. He wanted me to talk with her about doing some social media marketing for her. And from that, after talking to her, she told me a little bit about Diamonds on the Green and the golfing about beginners to skilled players. And so what I said to her was, I'm interested in learning. And she said, well, you should come out and join us. And so I did just that. And I will tell you, I am hooked. I started buying gear. I have, I can't tell you, I have every equipment at home that you can think of to practice. My son started helping me connect with the ball. I started taking lessons. I want you to know I'm addicted to golf. And I think if other people would just give it a chance, come out, try your, whether you're just a beginner or whether you're skillful. Just come out and try it. You're gonna have a great time. And then when you're with ladies like this, we talk, we have fun. We put, we have a putting party when we know we're at the end and not to mention the 19th hole. So it's a great time. Well, some people get discouraged at the sport because when you think about the sport, you don't think about how expensive it can get. And not everybody can afford to do something like that. How expensive is it to do what y'all are doing? So it's just like anything that you wanna do. Some people, you know, have tennis shoes that they're into, jewelry that they're into. You budget your lifestyle around that. You know, there's always, you know, discounts for playing golf. You just have to be skilled or savvy. Right. That's just like with coupons or whatever. I golf three or four times a week. If you know how, you know, to use coupons and the Twilight dates and all that, it's not as, it's no more expensive than you buying your Jordans every once a month or, you know, your coach purse and your Louis Vuitton. So. Okay. It's important. It's truly affordable. It is affordable. And we have sponsors that help offset the cost for those that wanna play with us. Okay. And how often do y'all golf? That's all. That look. That look. Yeah. It really, it really becomes an addiction. It does. It does. Who golfs the most out of y'all, y'all? Charon. Charon. Yeah, cause I looked at everybody. Yeah, I already knew. Well, here's the thing. You know, I started diamonds on the green. You can't, you know, motivate anybody to play if you're not out there playing. Right. So the more that they see me out there, they're like, okay, well, let me get out there. How often do you get out there? Don't tell me you go out there every day. Every day. Every day. Every day. I don't. I say every other day. Every other day. But yeah, I mean, that's just my safe haven. I mean, I'm an empty nester. That's just a place for me. And a lot of times I golf by myself. You know, I can just go out. Doesn't get boring? No. No. Cause I have my own. Yeah. And that's my time to work on some stuff. Yeah. To work on some stuff. But yeah. It's peaceful. You go out there. I tried putting in one time, you know those little golf, what you call it? Put places. Put places. When I first got here to the U.S. and I went to one and I could not get a ball in the hole, I threw that thing away. You just told me I wasn't golfed with us one day. Yes. I was so mad. I'm not gonna golf with us one day. You're not gonna happen? No. I don't know. You're not gonna happen? We didn't ask you. She can golf with y'all too. Right here. What? Oh, but not with her. No, she's saying good and she's saying I don't trust her. No. No, don't trust her. Wait, wait, wait. She's crazy. Did I shut it down? No. Did I shut it down? I've been golfed with Caroline. There you go. Wait a minute. Yeah, we golfed with her. Why do we golf with her? Carpool's retreat, man. We golfed with her. No, let me say this. Even though we're a single, we still carry ourselves as respectable women. Most people looking, yeah. So if you golf with a diamond just because you single, that don't mean we're gonna be out there dropping it like a hot, trying to, you know, catch it. Yeah, I heard stories. It's not about that. No, I'm just kidding. That's not gross. If you had a story, that's not gross. On the green, to be honest with you, I know you guys are reputable, but we'll think about it, okay? Are you speaking for us? We won. We won. When you got somebody, y'all won. So I'm gonna give you that, that y'all are won. So y'all need to come out together. Right. And we'll get her in some place so she can get some lessons going. Definitely. We'll get her some beer. And I will even start a men's organization just for you. There you go. Right there. Right here. Right here. No, right here. You wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. Shut it down. Shut it down. Look, I've got two members already. I hope. There we go. You see, when I think about golf, I think about gentlemen's sport or a sport that deals with sportsmanship, like really great sportsmanship. I don't ever hear about a whole bunch of fighting and cussing and arguing and all of that sort of stuff. Y'all are on the field all the time, on the green. Y'all might see some stuff. I don't know if I'm wrong about it. We have seen some things. We do. Yeah, there's some things. So you do have some of that sometimes. Yeah, but not as much as the ice sport. As like on a basketball court or not like that. Physical. I mean, when you're golfing, I mean, I say golf is like a game of chess. I play chess. I mean, you have to be very strategic in your next move. Is there any smack talking? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yes. Yes. It is. Yes. Is there any betting? Yes. There's betting. There's drinking. There's all that. Don't bet until you got your game turned out right up. Yeah. Sound like you're going to the club, boy. Y'all really not gonna make it to my wife, you know that? Boy, y'all messing that one up. Well, we see it's not us now. It's not us. We innocent. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's why she keep wanting to go back. She's like, I got to get back over there and go. Oh, yeah. Then it turned me out over there, yeah. So I'm going to ask you a question that each of you can answer separately. What is your handicap where it comes to golfing? Oh, I don't have a handicap. I haven't turned in enough scorecards to get a handicap. But I would say probably a 10. A 10. Oh, I don't want to say mine. Say yours. I'm about a 15. Donna. About a 25, 30 somewhere in there. I'm about a 30. I'm working on getting it. So you know what? I'm going to let everybody know because when you start and I've only been playing a year, I started out at like 35.4. So I'm down to 30. Matter of fact, I just checked it last night. So I'm getting there and I've finally shot under 100. So. And explain to everybody who might not know what a handicap is. That's normally how much like, say part is 75 for a course. You would, like how I said I was 10, I would shoot like 85. So it's your average of scores. Got it. So it helps if you're playing like in tournaments and you're playing against someone, if she has a handicap of a 10, basically I'd get 10 strokes on her to level the playing field when we're out there. Got it. So it allows you, regardless of the level that you are to have some, you know, to even it out a little bit for you and the other person so that you still feel like I'm playing and playing with a purpose instead of feeling like, you know what? It's like if I went out and played against Tiger Woods, I think his lowest has been a 62 that he shot. I'm nowhere near a 62, so. Do y'all watch golf and TV all the time? I do, yeah. Sometimes, yeah. Who is your favorite female golfer? Troy Mullins for me. I love her. Troy Mullins. Troy Mullins, okay. We'll look at it. And why? I like her style. She's African-American. I like her look. She's the longest drive champion probably like two or three years ago. So she was one of the first of our kind. So I love looking at her. And I like Cheyenne Woods. She's Tiger Woods niece. Okay. I think I've seen her. Yeah, so I kind of like her well-rounded game. Got it. I'm gonna pick my teammate from college, Shasta Avery Hart. She's a graduate of Jackson State University and she is awesome. Yes, the Jackson State University home of the Sonic Boom. She's a heroine. I'm gonna get back to the ruin. Who do you love? You know, I watched the LPGA and I don't necessarily have a favorite. But I just like anyone that's winning and staying hitting the ball straight. So I don't necessarily have a favorite just yet. No, yeah. I'm still learning the game. Okay. I like that. Wow. Well, hey man, you know, one thing I can say, yeah, you gotta get your money right. How much do you call for that membership? And where do y'all like the best go and play? So I think that's a myth that we can kind of dispel. Cause you can go and play a course where it's 20 bucks for you to play or you can play some of the really nice private courses that might be $200 for your green fees. So don't let that discourage you, especially when you're starting out. Just go see what's local near you. There's a lot of public courses. So I wouldn't say go to, you know, a really expensive course. Like the Cowboys. Yeah, I was just thinking about Cowboys and playing. How much does it have to pay over there? Like 200. And even with the new LPGA headquarters, that's like 200. Is that the highest around? No. Oh no. How much does it go up to? It just really depends on the day. There's a place in Texas. They charter a plane and you go out there overnight and it's like, I think it's $1,300 a person. So it can get up there. That's what I'm saying. You know, start where you can start and get your game up before you start investing. What's your favorite club right now to play at? Oh. I'm gonna have to say right now, probably I'm gonna go with, there's two. I like Waters Creek. That's over in Allen. And I like Westridge, which is out of McKinney. My cousins, they think they're some golfers, right? So they got a little money. They're lawyers and they go around. I've always watched these guys do this. They go to different states where they go wherever Tiger Woods and them go. They go the next time. They don't go with Tiger Woods. No, they can't go with them, but they be up there. If they went, then they tell you, we're going up there. They played on that course. We go up there, we have our own private. Okay, do you guys ever go outside like to different states and do y'all doing the same thing? Yeah. Actually in April of next year, we're going to California. We have our annual golf weekend that we put on. So the last three years, it was here in Texas. So next year we're going to Palm Springs, I think? Yeah. Palm Springs, California. And it'll be a weekend from Thursday to Sunday event. How far is Palm Springs from LA? That's about maybe two hours. Yeah, you gonna be stopping through your hood. Ah, sure. I know you're gonna be stopping through that with your blue rags hanging out of your hood. I'm only on the left side. What's your name? No, like I think you guys are incredible just to even be able to keep things going. Professionalism, women of color. I think that's hard, man. Like I said, and you guys are the only ones, right? Or is there other groups of how many more is it? And do y'all ever compete against them? That would be hard. That would be nice right there. Maybe y'all need to talk to them. Yeah, maybe we could. I mean, there's some local tournaments that we end up playing in where we come across other organizations. But we play as a team, the diamonds, and then we play. Well, I know the pot, you know, it's a pot. You know what I'm saying? And we also, Sharon and I have also played in other organizations, their tournaments as well. Wow. So what is the thing you guys look forward to accomplishing this year with the whole organization? Bringing on more chapters, bringing awareness to the game. Like I said, right now we're in 10 states. My mission is to get in all 50 states and just bringing more African-American women to the game and changing that narrative. So let me ask you this. So a woman, I'm not gonna say beginner levels, what are the different levels in golf? Beginner, intermediate, and... Yeah, bro. Yeah. Okay, so intermediate. Because intermediate, you can still make money or you have to go pro level to get make money. You can make money at any amateur level. Okay, so amateur, you're in 20 minutes, so forth. Compared to a male, who gets paid more? As we all know, males get paid. Yeah, the male can pay more. Why? We're not alone yet. No, the skill sets are, you know, the same. It can't be. No, the skill sets are different. I mean, again, you know, even in professional business world, we all know that men get paid more than women. But it's a fight that we're still fighting today, regardless if it's in sports, even with sports, the WNBA, they don't get paid as much as that. Well, it got to be some butts on the seats, okay? We're not for the sit here and act like this thing is not this way for a reason. If you bring the people in, then we can change the scenario. But it has to be, we have to bring them in. It have to make sense. I know y'all are gonna sit here and play me. Like, this has to make sense. So, and I knew you was gonna do this, this show. I just was waiting on my opportunity to save my peace. Okay, yeah, they gotta bring, I'm not, you're totally right. They gotta bring more people. Say it again, I like when you say that. They gotta bring more people in, but the society that we live in, even if they're good at what they do when they're playing, hold on, even if they're good at what they're doing and playing awesome, I bet you those females were short booty shorts. We don't know. Don't see it before. No, the seats might be full. And half brawns and all that. Thank you, but why does it have to get there before the seats get there? Ask for that. Yes, you did, yeah. Nobody wants that, it's not what men, no, no, men. Oh, you talking for yourself? No, I'm talking for all, all man nature. No, if we came out there, if we came out there in these booty shorts, brawns, trust, lingerie, it'll be full. It'll be full. It'll be full. It's sad the fact that we have to dress like that to get attention. Well, it'll be about our challenge. A lot of people have made that, we don't ask these women to get on Facebook, Instagram, and do all this bobbin' and poppin' they doin'. They do it for totally free. No, we don't. They jump on there in their rooms and do it on their own. So the male producers who go out there and they say, we're looking for a certain look, so let's take this off and let's- Let me turn this on you, we need to see this one. Let me just be honest with you, they don't have to, they might've stuck the key in the ignition, but the car is crunk now. That's all I'm gonna tell you. Ain't nobody making these young ladies do that. They are doin' it on their own and they doin' it consistently. But numbers don't lie. So we have to change that narrative. Well, I will- Man need to stop looking at it. I will women need to make sure these daughters know not to be jumpin' out here. Oh, no. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let's back to golf. And you know it's funny- Here we go, I got it. It's funny you say that because on social media, if you put one post about religion versus a post about somebody with the legs open or shaking, who gonna get the most light? You definitely ain't gonna be about the Lord. But it's gonna be about the lady that got the legs open. Yes, Cardinal, whose talent. The T.D. J.S. get plenty of views. All I'm telling you is it's Cardinal and the talent. Now I get it, that scenario, You got a lot of creepers out there. I know where you're going, but you do have some good people. My TDJs? No, my TDJs had to, TDJs had to build it up. I knew you'd get away from me with that. No, TDJs had to build it up in the beginning. In the beginning, I bet you he wasn't getting them views. I'll cut this out, cause this and they're tripping. It's not happening. All of us are. You're speaking the truth. I mean, he wasn't. He didn't get big overnight. No, he didn't. But you do understand it. I think we're both saying the same thing. That's how you cut it off. I think we're both saying the same thing. That's the same. Basically, we do need to pay our women more, but they do need to fill the seats up as well cause it have to make sense. But society is biased a lot of time, not just on people who are, not just on women, but people of color. All of these things start weighing in when you start looking at our society that we live in. So I get it, but yeah, yeah, I'd be definitely looking forward to not sending you to their golf days. And let me add this in because I don't want us to leave out the young folks. We want, even if the parents aren't interested in golf, we want you to contact us because we want to help your children learn the game of golf. I was gonna say, I was gonna ask about that. The earlier they start, the better. How early is the earliest? We have a program. No. As soon as they can hold a club. They can hold a club. But our program, it was on the green. We started them out at five because there's tension span that young is not gonna last. But we have a program called Emerald on the Green. And we start them out as young as five. But like Curl said, as early as they can hold a golf club, I seen this little baby, he had pampers on. This is Pampers on. Really? And he was swinging that little club. I mean, and he had those little form up. I mean, the cutest thing. But my thing is, start them out as young as you can. So they mindset. And I say, our people, we think the only way that we can get an education or go to school if we play basketball, football, all the other sports. You're competing with tons and tons of other people with the same talent, but you forget about golf. Golf is a shoe in for our minority kids because we don't have enough kids to play that sport. A lot of those scholarships go unclaimed and they have to be forfeited because one, they don't have enough minorities. Two, they don't have enough women. So if we start our kids out and we get their mindset that golf is the way to go. They can make money. They can get a free ride in education and they won't get all the injuries that they would get playing other sports. My granddaughter is playing golf with me. We have a putting green in the house. Every time she's over at the house. How does she? She's three and she's hitting the golf bar. Well, Joy is a little, yes or no, that's Joy's, wow. And if you think about it, when we see TikToks and Instagrams with the little babies bouncing a ball, we don't think anything up about that. Within our culture, that's normal, but there are cultures out there that are starting their kids out with a golf club as soon as those kids can walk and those kids are getting scholarships. It's paying for their education. It's networking for them. So start them out as soon as you can get them out there, especially our young ladies. That's why I got my daughter out there so that she can play and hopefully land a scholarship. And I regret not having pushed that earlier for her. They should even have that as a sport in schools. They do. They do, they do. But not all schools. We just don't participate. I was about to say, some of these public schools don't have that. We just say it's someone else's sport. It's not our sport. Right, that's how I've always heard. That's why a lot of people like us wouldn't even try. But you started early. Yes. So that's, this is- It's a wearer. Encouraged. Encouraged, yes. Right place, daddy was right place, right time to find out about that. And I have a five year old and I just bought him his first set of clubs. So we went out to the driving range the other day. So it's bringing awareness. Because again, we feel like the only way for us to get that education is with the basketball, the football, and the track. No, more awareness. We talk about it as much more like we're doing now. Get the word out. And I think we can reach more of our kids that way. But you know what, reach a lot of kids or inspire a lot of kids, and I'm in today's society, is that money? So between a professional basketball player and a professional golfer, who makes more? Look at Tiger Woods. Look at Tiger Woods. I know, but- The golfers make money. They make money. Jordan Tiger Woods. To me, they're on equal footing. Equal. Yeah. I'm just curious, because numbers, that's what people look at. That's why they go for certain sports or certain things. Yes, popularity, what the girls go for if you're a guy, but if you're a girl, they're looking at money, retirement, stuff like that. But here's the thing. What is Jordan playing now? Golf. If he invested his money, well, or the money that he made in basketball, he's still making money. But he's also making money in golf. But- Yeah, well, Michael Jordan is a different, don't know when you bring him on. No, Michael Jordan makes money off shoes. Right. Michael Jordan was- And he owns a golf course. Yeah, but that's second nature. That ain't, that ain't what, now don't do this right here. Michael Jordan is from basketball, from Nikes and Eric Jordan's, and you know what, it's really going, we just- Did y'all see that movie, Air? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was cool, you know. Ain't nothing like the old movies, I like the old, I'm from the old school, you know what I mean? You know, I just brought up boys in the hood, shout out, man, you know what I'm saying? I brought up menace to society or something, you know what I'm saying? A basketball movie with, by why, what was that movie he was in? The House. Was it that? Well, you know, don't you? That was the old school movie. So, okay, I want to get my kid involved in golf. He's young, six, seven. What do I do? What do I need to do? Just cut. Give us a call, we'll introduce you- What's the number? My number? The number to give a call to. Yeah, okay. Go to the website. Go to the website. Oh, go to the website. We do have a new office number. It is 469-398-3263. Okay. So that's our new office number, as of earliest last week. So, you give us a call and we will introduce you to a youth golf coach to get your son or daughter involved. Okay, awesome. What's the website? www.diamondsonthegreen.com. Eee, www.diamondsonthegreen.com, it's right there. Let's go. And your social medias? We are on Instagram and Facebook, but just pull up type in diamonds on the diamond. And we have different chapters. I'm East Texas chapter. What? What? That's what I'm talking about in the building. East Texas was our chapter of the year. I already know. Yeah. And then Donna was our VP of the year. And Carol is our newest president. Of the Frisco chapter. Of the Frisco chapter. We are gunning for the title. Yeah. Oh, man. Oh, man. I keep my ladies in line like we do this week. We are doing the green and full effect. We are community service. We do a lot of community service. How many chapters do you have in Texas? Four. Just the four. Why are they located? We have East Texas. We have Frisco. We have Dallas. And we just started a Rallet Rockwall chapter. Okay. Wow. How's that Rallet Rockwall chapter? So we had our first new membership drive today. And man, I think we had like 15 women that come out. Really? So yeah. How did they hear about it? Social media. Social media. Y'all pushed it out there. Pushed it out there. Man, that's live, man. I sure appreciate you guys coming on the show. We never had a show like this. It's the first one of many. We're coming back. What? We're coming back. Y'all can always come back. So before you started, what exactly do you do for a career? Me? Oh, Lord. Oh, she's a professional golfer. Yeah. I'm a professional golfer. I'm gonna play no game running in there. You tell me. I'm in the auto industry. I'm a legal analyst for an automobile corporation. Prior to that, I worked for one of the largest banks as the operations manager for over 20 years. Oh, okay. Bank of America. You were talking about an interview that you were almost about to do. So were you supposed to do an interview because with a bank or? No. She was trying to interview Pog, it didn't go good. Yeah. I don't know, who were you doing the interview through? Oh, Dallas Examiners, one of the minority newspapers here. Oh, okay. And I was like, hmm. 1996. Exactly. So I was scheduled. I'm a two Pog fan. So you were working for them at the time? Yes. Dallas Examiners, that was about 25 years ago. Of course. So, yeah, I was scheduled to do it. He was on my calendar. Two Pog was on my calendar to interview. And unfortunately, he got killed after that. Would that have been your biggest interview at that time? No. No. Who else have you done? I've interviewed Luke. I've interviewed. Luke who? Hey, you know, my wife's so I go with you. My wife's so I go, boy, it's coming out now. Keep on. Who else did you interview? He was on BET once after that, he's still at it. He's still at it. I've interviewed New Edition, Mr. Biggs. What's the comedian name? D.L. Hughley. All those ones that was popular back in the day. But let me just stop you right there. They still ain't bigger than Pog. Don't ever. Well, you're right. That's why she said, she said it was bigger than Pog. I heard it. Anything to come up with a bigger than Pog. There you go. That would have been the biggest. I'm sorry. Yeah, that would have been the biggest one. You're right. Donna, what do you do? Cause I really am interested. I'm an investment banker. I knew it. She didn't take her money from folks. What an investment banking. So if you... That mean I'm getting bread. Go ahead. This is true. So when you hear of capital improvement programs where we're pavement streets, we're building buildings and school bonds and building schools, I'm the person that they bring on to help them get their election out, get their bonds sold to investors and get your buildings built and get your streets paved. So that's what I do. Joy, what do you do for... I'm a referral, especially if that one of the clinics in Tyler. All right. And that'll be it. I'm just done with it. Oh man. No, just kidding. Dr. Carroll. I am a licensed professional counselor and industrial and organizational psychologist. And I have a private practice in McKinney, Texas, authentic balance counseling. And I supervise right now about 14 associates that work for me and see clients Monday through December. You are very busy. I am. I also teach as an adjunct professor at University of North Texas. Lord have mercy. When do you have time to go home? I don't go home. I go home. That's what I'm saying. You just said that. She's married. She's a martial. What? We're martial for one of the... That's what I'm saying. But that's why she got her whole family to come out to. We make money and we golf. Wow. We make money and we golf. That's a good slow and great slow. Man, thank y'all for coming on the show, man. I hope we did y'all justice. This is the first of many because I'm going to find the other golfers that... I need to... I got to set this up. Challenge, I got to. Bring them on, bring them on. So, I mean, like... And it's another superstar. I mean, you know, people that look like us, that they have an organization. Yeah, I sure am going to set this up because they come in on boss talk. I'll do a say this word. If he's not the instigator... I just want to... I want some smoke. I want some color. It's going to make you better. You want to be better, don't you? You like it, I can tell you. I will. I still will. That's the word right there. So, I mean, you know, I thank you guys for even doing this because it helps to put a different look on our young ladies. It gives our young ladies something to achieve, you know? Yeah. Definitely would have loved to have my daughter up here, but she's at work right now. This would have been great for the seat. Can we give her our information? No, she's not coming over there to join. She's going to Brown University. She wouldn't be gone. Okay, so, but we still, I would have loved for her to see this because to see our people, our young ladies unified, like you guys, man, it gives you hope. It gives you courage. It gives you a lot of different things, you know what I mean? Yeah, so how important is God in your life? Oh, God is first. First. You always got to ask for it. I'm actually a PK. I'm a future's kid. Baby, I wouldn't have told nobody that. I wouldn't have told you. But I'm innocent. Remember, I tell you, I'm innocent. You know, one thing I can say, and I'm not going to be funny because I don't want, because this is my show, but I can say, I heard something. God just showed me something. You know, you a PK, you a PK, single. Look out. Oh! Wait, let me explain. Look out. I'm single because I'm just single. I don't know what I'm saying. I've just seen it, you know, when the light came, just like, boom, boom, boom. I didn't know. I'm not your yet. It will happen. You're a preacher's kid. I am. And you're a preacher's kid. Hmm. He said, look at God. I'm single by choice. You know, there's a rumor about preacher's kids and I know y'all heard it. Mm-mm. I didn't hear it. It ain't true. It ain't true. Yeah, it ain't true. It ain't the worst kid's ever. No! And I don't know how true that is, but you know, you guys seem to have, y'all broke the mold. Y'all know y'all great. And I, you know, I just want to say, man, you know, God forgives. You know, he does. He does. Hey, y'all. Hey, y'all. Hey, he does. And he, you know, he sits high and look low. And, you know, and we gonna keep God first, guys. Thank you guys so much. I love you guys, man, for coming on Boss Talk 101. I hope this won't be your last time because I do run people off. We've had my most viewed episodes of people running up out of here. I'm serious, y'all think I'm playing, but boom, one guy run up out of here, pass by them cameras, I don't even know how he got past them like that. He was out of there. Oh yeah. But man, thank you guys, man. And I definitely know that this is something that every young lady should be proud to be a part of. Definitely gonna be pushing the narrative. I am definitely gonna be telling people. I do know a lot of people. I would definitely be hitting you guys up. I'm gonna get each one of y'all's Facebook or your Instagram. I know y'all are on there. You a professional. I will not be coming to you for any professional advice. Y'all, I'll be down in the tower and on him trip. And I will pull up, okay? I just want to see if y'all really golf. I'm coming out there with my camera. I have trophies to prove it. Why you didn't bring them? I don't believe you. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Man, you like the L.A. Man, I don't know how fish getting bigger. Thank y'all for coming on the show. I was waiting on that. Hey, listen, what did you enjoy? Yes, sir. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. What a boss is talk. And we out.