 kids. What? What? So he talking to me? We joined the DTNES pre-show already in progress. Well hi. Well hi. Well hi everybody. Hey everybody. Oh the good. It's lovely when we're walking. Not too far because I have to put all the gates up. We have I didn't care. No more ink spots though in this right? No more ink spots. No more ink spots. No more ink spots. No more ink spots. No more ink spots. No more ink spots. No more ink spots. No more ink spots. No more ink spots. No more ink spots. Oh no there's no ink spots. The ink spots song isn't in this one. Well. Yeah I had an old playlist on Ardio for all the songs from Fallout and there's no Ardio. There's no more Ardeo so I'm going to have to make a Spotify playlist. Why does the sun go on shining? I bet Pandora goes up with some. I'm just going to keep digging this song. Somewhere to keep your playlist I bet. I'm going to look on Spotify right now to see if there's a fallout playlist. All the songs are just always in my head and I got to find the DJ. What's his name? Oh, yeah. We haven't found him yet. He's in Diamond City somewhere. Oh, that guy. I haven't found him. I just wanted my kid back first. Here we go. Fallout 4, Fallout 4 and Fallout 3 songs on Spotify. People are on it. Yeah. I'm going to make a fallout movie. Seriously. Oh, god. Well, it only took them how many years to make a Warcraft movie? Yeah. So long. Oh, no. Well, they've got the, I don't want to set the World on Fire song by the Incspots. Yeah. That's on there. All right. I don't want to set the World on Fire. Have you played all the Bioshocks? Only Infinite. Have you played all the Bioshocks, Veronica? Yes. Because I get the soundtrack for both games all kind of mixed up. Oh, well, this is easy. Well, yeah. That's what I play this was. My play this was Fallout 3 and Bioshock songs together. It's like a genre. Yeah. All right. Anyone have any questions about the show? Nope. You're going to talk about shoplifting techniques. This is like too many songs. Those songs are not on there. Musical guest Veronica Belmont. That's fine. Love it. Don't lie. You guys can do that. I love it. Kidding me. Just have to pay the mechanical. I just love that there's so many songs about the apocalypse from that time. Well, it was nuclear war or cold war, right? I know. That kind of makes sense actually. But yeah. The position between the like 50s smooth style, like very smooth pop. And they like, yes, everything's going to end. Oh well. Yeah. All right. I'm going away. All right. Bye. We're going to do a show. Bye. Bye. Here we go. Tech news, a daily frontier to explain advancing technologies and how they affect you to seek out new gadgets, apps and pics of the day. These are the continuing missions of the Daily Tech News Show. But Tom and the crew can't do it alone. To help keep DTNS on the cutting edge of news and lovable, goofy, curmudgeonly commentary, visit DailyTechNewsShow.com slash support to show your support. Now let's hear that other theme song. This is the Daily Tech News for Monday, November 23rd, 2015. I'm Tom Marajar to me as she does most Mondays. Although we missed you last Monday, Ms. Veronica Balmont is back contributor and co-host of Daily Tech News Show, Sword and Laser, and of course host of Dear Veronica on Engadget. How you doing? I am good. I'm in fallout brain, but we'll talk about that some other time. So you will be interpreting the tech news through the filter of the wasteland is what you're saying. Through the filter of a world in which we focused on nuclear power instead of chip chips and that kinds of technology that we use today. And instead, you know, went that route. So we have killer robots, but we have very rudimentary computing systems. You really have been immersing yourself in that world. Full immersion. Full immersion. Full immersive mode. Beware folks. Big thanks to John, by the way, for the new intro today. That was fantastic. So good. Fingers crossed on the takedown bot. Let's take a look at the headlines. Google announced Android Studio 2 at Android Dev Summit today. Preview release features Instant Run, the ability to make code changes in a running app and preview them instantly. Anything you make in Studio 2 will work that way. You can also convert older apps. You can also test deep links now and coming soon to Android Studio 2 will be a faster emulator with a better interface and a GPU profiler. Preview is available in the Canary channel. This is dev stuff, not for end users for the most part, but I know some of you guys make some apps. That's a pretty cool feature, being able to see live previews like that. Yeah, totally. You basically compile it and start it running, and then you can do a code injection. Not really, but kind of. JP Warg pointed out a Reddit post about a Dell self-assigned certificate and ours technicus Dan Gudin has a good write-up on it. It was the first discoverer discovered by a programmer named Joan Nord, similar to Lenovo Superfish. Some Dell laptops seem to have something called eDell Root, all signed with the same key. They can get possible to spoof HTTPS connections for anyone using one of those laptops. It can also reportedly sign applications bypassing Microsoft malware checks. Dell issued a statement that technicians are investigating the reports. Yeah, there's a lot of people jumping to conclusions about why this is on here, but there's no doubt that it's actually bad, especially because security researchers have been able to use it to do some nefarious things. So if you're running a Dell, I would just be careful what websites you rely on for HTTPS until Dell says more about this. Hopefully they'll come up with a removal kit. We don't know why it's there. It could be because of some kind of ad scheme, which is why Lenovo had it. It was part of a third-party piece of code that they had included on their apps. It wasn't on all Lenovo's. So far they've found it on three different Dell models, but we don't know which models have it. But it is the kind of thing that if I had to guess right now, I'd say Dell was experimenting with something similar to Superfish, which is Lenovo's ad-serving thing, and then maybe abandoned it. And that's why they forgot it was there or that's got remnants of code or something. Yeah, especially good to keep in mind for the holiday shopping season when everyone's going to be online purchasing things on websites. Yeah, just be extra careful. Guy from Trinidad let us know that you can now add Star Wars the Force Awakens themes to your Google apps. You go to google.com slash Star Wars. You pick your side, darker light side of the force, and your apps will automatically update. For instance, YouTube's progress bar will look like a lightsaber in the appropriate color. Google Maps position marker will either turn into a TIE fighter or an X-Wing fighter. Also add Star Wars events to your calendar, which you may or may not want. You can turn everything back off at the same website and then you can add the lights suddenly after the Emperor kills Samuel Jackson in front of you. Oh boy, alright, I'm going with the light side. I'm joining up. I'm going with the light side. You know, it's funny. Like I'm all Horde in World of Warcraft, but for some reason in the Star Wars universe, I'm like, oh no, there's nothing redeemable about the bad person. Well, Tom, that's okay though, because the Horde is actually the good side. Exactly, see, that's the difference. Although when I say there's nothing redeemable, I guess that's the whole point of return of the Jedi is that it is redeemable, but there's nothing out too much. These guys, these guys. Hobbit from PA wanted us to take note that Time reports that Google once prototyped a Star Trek-like communicator just to keep things balanced here in the Star Trek Star Wars world. We're having some Star Trek news as well, fair and balanced. Google made a chess-mounted Bluetooth speaker and microphone that let users Google voice search by tapping on the communicator and speaking. Time magazine got a picture of the device, which looks like a black circular badge which doubled the size of a quarter. Yeah, they don't say why it never moved past the prototype stage or what happened to it. And it was just talking to a computer. You weren't actually communicating with it, but it would be cool to be like, computer, what is the weather outside? And then have it tell you. I know, I want that still. Yeah, nicely done. Wordpress.com announced a new version of itself, codenamed Calypso, an entirely new code base for the blogging software. Kind of like any other third-party interface would be. Developers built everything in JavaScript and API instead of PHP and MySQL. It's a single-page application, so it should work well across devices. We're talking about Wordpress.com now, by the way, not Wordpress.org. There's also a Mac app, although I think Wordpress.org folks can access some of this with Jetpack. The interface is open source and available on GitHub. And if that's too complicated, you can always use Squarespace. You could. You got to pay for that. Wordpress.org is free. But I use both. I like Squarespace. I like WordPress. Yeah, and Wordpress.com for the people who pay or use the free version looks ridiculously awesome if you're somebody who's like, you know what, I never wanted to get into the CSS or the code or anything like that. I just wanted a nice clean interface and you use WordPress. It's pretty nice. UK Carrier EE announced that it's carrying out a strategic review to offer users advertising control on their mobile devices. The review will consider tools for subscribers to block some kinds of ads on the web and in apps. A volume control for ads is also being considered, which is awesome. Yeah. I think this is fascinating. The idea of a carrier getting in there and saying, well, maybe ads are so out of hand that we should help our users manage them. Now, they're not saying they would add block everything. They're also not using the words add block PR people. It is interesting. There was one comment, and I think it was either in the TechCrunch article or in a comment on the TechCrunch article that said, well, yeah, they want to get people to pay them to whitelist, so it's another way for the carrier to charge people to access its customers, which is also true. Devious and brilliant. The Task Force recommending registration for recreational UAVs, you can call them drones, quadcopters, etc. has issued its final report as we mentioned on Friday that they would. Vehicles that weigh less than 250 grams, that's just a little more than a half pound, do not need to be registered. So lightweight stuff, small stuff, don't need to register it. If you have something more than that, then you have to fill out an electronic registration. It can even be done on an app, and then you receive a certificate registration number for use on all of your vehicle. So you're registering yourself, not each vehicle. You just need to make sure that your number is on those vehicles, and you're going to get a little bit of education on how to properly and responsibly fly your vehicles. The FAA will now take comment on the recommendations before issuing its interim final rules. Yeah, I think to me, so far, this sounds reasonable. I do not own a drone of any kind right now, though I enjoy them, and I like what they do for video and for pictures and images and recreational use. But this sounds fair. I feel like the way they're being used so frequently, perhaps the FAA should probably have some say. I'm guessing at this point. Well, yeah, obviously. I feel okay about that. Yeah, I think that this recommendation, which came from outside companies outside the FAA, saying, here's what we think you should do. I think there was a good way for the FAA to do it, to say let's have some outside people give us a recommendation. I don't love the idea of having to register something that I use with the government in order to use it in my backyard. But not everyone just uses it in their backyard. People are using it in a responsible way. Unfortunately, some people have ruined it for everybody. In order to make sure that people are educated like, hey, don't fly these, you're near an airport. Which, by the way, my backyard, very near an airport. So, there you go. Suddenly, I'm the backyard guy who's like, oh right, Santa Monica airport, got it. I need to take that into account. That's not the worst way to do it. I agree with you there. The telegraph reports a faulty image component was the reason for LG's withdrawal of the LG Watcher Bain second edition from the market last week, and we discussed the launch on the show previously. LG said the part in question was a new advanced component never used in LG wearable before. After thousands of hours of testing, LG found it could potentially impact our image quality over the life of the device. Darren was speculating on Friday that it could be related to the modem because he has some experience registering products with the FCC that he sells through the Hack5 shop, and that seemed to be a logical assumption, but it looks like no, it looks like LG was just doing quality control and found something pretty bad with either the screen or the display of something to do with image where they're like, ooh, this is not going to be good over time. And that's why they found it out so late. I prefer when they do preemptive things like this and kind of get out ahead of it and try to make good. Mark Zuckerberg posted on his Facebook timeline that he will take two months of paternity leave. He wrote, quote, study show that when working parents take time to view at their newborns, outcomes are better for the children and families. Zuckerberg announced back in July that his wife and he were expecting a baby girl. He made no mention of who would fill in in his absence, and he's only taken part of the leave. Facebook offers up to four months of paternity leave. You can break it up into different pieces, so he might take a few more weeks off here and there, but trying to be an example for work-life balance there. I hope so. Ryan, my husband, actually teased me this weekend by saying, oh, did you hear about Mark Zuckerberg taking paternity leave? I was like, oh, really? That's great. How long? He's like eight months, and I went eight months, and I was like, I'm furious that he was like taking that much time and like women don't get to take that time, blah, blah, blah. And then he was like, no, I'm kidding. It's two months. And I was like, oh, okay, it's reasonable. Yeah, and he's not even taking the four four months, so yeah, it's good. I think it's lead by example. Yeah, I think that's wonderful, and I hope more companies follow the Facebook's example in this. Opera Max, Opera's app for compressing data and saving bandwidth for people on limited data plans, has added support for straving music. Opera Max previously worked for image heavy apps and streaming video sites. The first music apps to work with Opera Max will be YouTube Music, Pandora, Slacker Radio, Ghana and Sovan, I hope I'm saying those right, with more to follow. Opera promises to save about 50% of the data normally used. Now, you may, I mean, this is great for people on limited data all over the world, and that's a lot of us. Very few people have unlimited data plans anymore, so given the facts that, you know, I guess T-Mobile is doing their zero rating type of thing, and some other carriers do that as well, but music, images on Instagram, and video eat up a lot of data, you know, I... You had a personal experience with this recently, didn't you, Tom? Well, okay, I don't want to embarrass anyone that I have on a family plan with, whose initials may be M-O-M, but there was a bingo app. It was second down a lot of data. A bingo app may have been involved. I mean, mistakes were made and, yeah, installing apps on that phone might be a really good idea. That's all I'm saying. Bingo's were had. Hey everybody! We love to hear from you. As noted, there were several stories, almost all these stories were on our subreddit today. We definitely take into account what you guys want to hear us talk about, and the more people who participate in the subreddit, the more seriously we're going to take it, because that's a larger and larger segment of the audience, and it's getting bigger all the time. So head on over there, join in, at least do some voting, if not submitting some links, at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com and that is a look at the headlines. Veronica found a great story in the BBC today by Jonathan Keane. It's an article on facial recognition as shoplifting prevention. This is fascinating Veronica, so in the... You can argue whether it's a rising of shoplifting, but the US retail system research calls it a constant, if nothing else. It's always a problem. Trying to dissuade it is one thing, but trying to catch people is another way, and one way to stop people is not to let them into the shop at all, if they've got a history of shoplifting. Yeah, you know, this does I think make people very nervous, and we're constantly straddling that line of, do we use technology to help prevent things like shoplifting or crimes from being committed, or are we more concerned about our own personal privacy issues? And this is a really good example of that, because there was a pilot program, there's a few other programs like this going on in the world where they use cameras to do facial recognition and if there's a shoplifter that comes up on the registry, the stores, the local stores have the option of saying, nope, you can't come in, sorry. But that makes me think, well, what happens if, okay, he was a shoplifter, if his record hasn't been cleaned properly or if he's turned over in new leaf, it makes me wonder, like, how long will this kind of history follow you throughout your life? And what are the privacy issues inherently involved with this kind of thing? I mean, we already know we're all being watched in stores on CCTV or on security cameras, so why is this worse or better? Yeah, the pilot program you're talking about was regarded jewelers as being whether you could come into their jewelry shop or not, and if you were a convicted jewel robber, they didn't let you in, and yet you're still right. It's definitely frightening to think, oh, I shoplifted a candy bar once and now I'll be banned from every retail shop, and that's not where things are going right now, but even at that level of more understandable like, okay, you're a jewel thief which, by the way, pretty cool, but you're not coming to my jewelry shop. What if you are reformed? Should you lose all of your future rights to go into a jewel shop if that's the case? On the other hand, it's a private shop. They could let who they want through the door. They're not required to allow anybody in if they don't want to. So it is interesting, and the idea of facial recognition being creepy to us is very age-based. There were several studies done that showed we as people are getting comfortable with the idea, especially in shops being surveilled, especially the younger you are, the more comfortable you are with it. 30% of retailers use facial recognition, and 50% of shoppers surveyed were comfortable with that. And then I'm curious, too, being a store that supposedly uses facial recognition, would that have the same kind of deterrent as putting up a home alarm system sign in front of your house even if you don't have one inside? Would that still work as a potential deterrent? Right, because they sell these cameras that aren't actually on, that just have a blinking red light as a deterrent, because if the potential criminal is not very sophisticated, they won't know it's a fake, and it will deter them from stealing anything. I don't know how you do that with facial recognition, though, unless you're showing faces and putting people's names up there and just really creeping people out. Facial recognition technology used in this store or something like that could be effective, also. But a lot of these articles are saying similar things, too, about how technology is making it easier for people to do crimes and to do things like flash robs, which is something I learned about today in which a bunch of shoppers go in at the same time, and either some people distract the clerks while other people steal, or they just do a massive shoplifting situation. I don't know what to do. Where so many people are taking things, they can't stop them all. Yeah. So why not use technology to also combat criminal activities in the same way? Although I don't know facial recognition might help in catching people who are part of that. But facial recognition isn't certainly going to stop a flash rob in practice, right? Not at the time, but it would be able to say, alright, now we have the technology where as long as we see the full face you do need to see the face on the eyes in order for the facial recognition to work. They maybe will feel less secure that their identities won't be able to get out there. With a traditional camera it's all grainy and kind of crappy and you can't really see that great, but with facial recognition there's a higher level of... Being able to identify the person. Yeah. A lot of these companies too are doing what they call privacy-enabled approaches. So for instance a company called Prism just monitors the movements of people and products to sort of identify who might have taken something. They're not doing identification. They're just saying let's figure out after the fact what happened and how it happened. Maybe that can help, you know, product placement and other security measures in the future. NETRA is a company that scans your surveillance footage after an incident without storing faces and looks for things like clothing color, hair length, backpacks, etc. to identify okay that was the person who was the thief and then people just look at the picture and say okay let's try to figure out who that is. So it's not always about just tracking everyone. On the other hand a lot of these companies are saying well it's expensive to put in facial recognition but if we can also use it to give you discounts or to or to do other things that can help us in our business some of which are not as creepy some of which is just oh we realize that people come in at this type of day they go down these aisles more than these aisles they're looking at these products more than those products those aren't personal but other things could be like oh we notice that person comes in all the time. Or how long they spend looking at something in particular and also for loss prevention they can tell what times of days that stuff is happening or stuff is going missing that way they can put more people on staff during those hours where normally maybe it was just one person manning the store and more was getting getting taken because of it. Back in June pro-privacy groups walked out of a US 16 month long discussion on facial scanning and preserving privacy and both sides are insisting on their side of it. Retail shops say no we don't need anyone's permission to do this they're coming into our shop we get to scan their face and the privacy groups are saying no you should get consent from people before you stick a camera on them and let and scan their face you should say you should at least let them know. So there's a real fight going on over what the rules about this should be. For me I feel like it's okay to let people know I just kind of walk around in the world with no expectation of privacy ever just because I just assume that we live in a you know a big brother state at this point and that I am probably on camera anywhere. Just not just a big brother state I mean everyone around you has a camera right yeah so it doesn't even have to be an organization there's so many people taking pictures of you at any given moment and so well because I'm so famous obviously I just because you like to photo bomb particularly yes exactly any any expectation of privacy I have in any public places ruined by myself photo bombing other pictures exactly always someone will always be able to nail me down and you can't stop but if you if you tell people that they're being recorded like we said earlier that's an added benefit of being a deterrent in and of itself so I think you you have you you cover the privacy ground by saying yes you enter the store you're being recorded by the way we're not going to use it anywhere else we're just using this loss prevention or you know and that on top of it will be like oh well if I go into this store that I was planning to rob they won't be able to they won't be able to they'll see me if I don't go into this store so yeah exactly I mean that's the retailers do have a good kind of response which is like if we only get to do facial recognition on people who say it's okay the shoplifters will say it's not okay and other people will too so you can't just convict someone for saying it's not okay they have to have the right to decline if you're asking for actual consent so I think I think there can be a compromise I just don't know exactly what it is I think maybe just notification saying look we have facial recognition you're agreeing to it if you walk through the store and that way it has the right effect if shoplifters don't agree to it they won't go into the store and then yeah it does lead down a line of once we consent to this are we then consenting to targeted advertising or you know other kind of weird creepy stuff like already happens on the internet but now it would be happening in meat space yeah it turns the service right if you walk into this store you consent to facial recognition which will be used to market to you across the ocean yeah no and I think that's where the privacy groups could probably do the best work is to say okay fine you don't have to get explicit consent but you have to agree not to do this that and the other thing with that data and there's a lot you can do without identifying people personally you can you can count you can have the software say well that looks like a lady that looks like a guy and that can be valuable information like oh 70% of our visitors are women you know we're women's clothing store so that's odd maybe we should stock some men's clothes I don't know there's things you can do without actually having to violate people's privacy that can be aggregated data I guess yeah I think I am the most concerned as I mentioned in the very beginning of this article that people who have turned over a new leaf will continue to be confronted with these issues down the road but as long I guess as the as the lists even just saying putting people on lists just like hurts my brain in like a really negative kind of way but if they upload if they keep using updated police records so far they were only using local police records it's not tied into any kind of national registry of people but that could be that could be weird that could be detrimental well and that's the thing right now the retailers have to go and provide their own database to match the faces against which means in most cases they're working with the local police but what happens when a third party start up decides to disrupt that industry and create an independent list and how is that list validated and what if you get on it by accident and all of that sort of thing so yeah all right let's get to our pick of the day have you seen those Apple TV screensavers on the new Apple TV they show a city scene and you think it's just a picture and then slowly you notice the cabs are moving and like lights are winking on and off there's lots of stuff like that they're like slow motion animation they're really gorgeous and I know some people might want them on their desktop so Josh from lovely new Fairfield Connecticut has a pick for you one coats created a small Swift app at GitHub that pulls the new Apple TV screensaver for Mac screensaver use so now you can get them Veronica definitely not official says Josh and no idea how long it will work to pull down the Apple TV videos but it saves them locally and it's gorgeous although each video is quite large around 200 to 300 megabytes each you can pick and choose which ones you want to use and it just cycles through them you can even have different videos running on different screens but also found some terminal commands that could make these videos your desktop although the screensaver won't activate when you do that and we'll put those instructions in our show notes along with his full email so thank you for that Josh I'm going to try this out it's pretty cool I wonder if it still works I saw that the GitHub project is still up whether it actually can get the videos or not I didn't check send your picks to us folks feedback at DailyTechNewsShow.com you can find my picks at DailyTechNewsShow.com do you know New Fairfield Connecticut I heard you react I know Fairfield Connecticut but I don't know if I know New Fairfield Connecticut oh yeah they built a new one it's a whole new town on top of the old one yeah so much better has facial recognition to get in the count 80 wrote in or is it Audi you know you told me before and I can't remember now said hey Tom and co-host on Wednesday you discussed with Scott a problem to the auto industry as fewer cars will be sold and each car will travel more miles I think what this will do is move the auto industry to become like everything else a service industry I could easily see professional drivers taking the car on a time-based contract with every operational aspect covered by the manufacturer and the driver just paying by the mile you can already lease a car today and here in Israel employees getting company cars are usually put on what's called operational leasing whereby a leasing company takes care of all the maintenance including insurance and annual licensing you even get unlimited fuel as part of the monthly lease price unlimited meaning in the telecommunication sense of the world it's kept by miles that's funny so it's not much of a stretch to see car manufacturers adopt the same model of operation and they have the advantage of providing upgrades on a periodic basis on the plus side this model incentivizes the manufacturers to build cars that are low maintenance and can last for a long time on the downside are we looking at a future of cars being like software or digital content or you pay for a license to use it but you never own it that's what I like you like never-owning you like never-owning I waffle back and forth on this because I love owning a car but I think I would just be just as happy to be able to call for a car and use it at my leisure whenever I wanted it and then be able to dump it somewhere and not have to take care of it what if you were someone who needed a car for your work whether that's driving an Uber or whether it's just like some other thing where you drive around meetings to meetings and people or something like that would you go beyond a lease and just pay a monthly fee to a company for access to a car well that's isn't that is that non-sip car I mean the only downside is that you don't have the guarantee that a car is going to be available for you at a particular time so that would have to be that would be the main caveat for me would be I'm gonna pay 50 bucks a month to access my car when I need it for you know let's say six hours a month or something maximum but the car is available for me whenever I want it no matter what I'm not sure we make the jump to car as a service more so than we already do with leases and zip cars until they're self-driving cars then may see but I still think it's more of a I'll be guaranteed to have a car available within five minutes of my request sort of service level not actually keeping it in my garage and we're already there with Uber really in the city of San Francisco in LA or even New York now it's it's you know your your wait time is I wear rarely wait for more than five minutes tops for an Uber usually it's three minutes now I am always I'm always getting emails from people who point out that folks who don't live in those cities especially folks who live in rural areas are going to not take advantage of these advances as soon or maybe ever because they don't have Uber cars or possibly even self-driving cars circulating around in his grade of numbers I mean that just that kind of makes sense you know that's just how it's going to have to be for a while I know and I point that out so that they don't have to email me they're very nice we have had this discussion previously as well Andy temporarily from fall colored Japan says I'm on an amazing holiday in Japan right now was entering the grounds of the icon do temple in Kyoto when I noticed a sign on the grounds for the first time no drones was a thing is that common I guess more public spaces are going to be modifying their prohibited activities list anyway thought you guys would find it interesting so yeah there's there's a big old sign that says you know no unipods so no no selfie sticks no no drone and they've got a picture of a quadcopter the universal symbol for quadcopter there refrained from using a selfie rod in congestion so I guess you can do a selfie stick you can't do a tripod or a unipod that's interesting no drone I was going to say speaking of speaking of drones and stuff I know it's already happened but I thought it would be fun to show off the we had frif frif happened and we had Eddie on the show the one we talked to Eddie about yeah and we had our winner and our best in show and I shared it on Google plus but I'll link to it in the chat as well maybe we can put it in the show notes but just such spectacular work done in you know the drone videography space it was incredible to see very cool yeah plop that link in the show notes right under Andy's email and we'll have it available for people and thank you everybody for watching listening thank you Veronica Belmont as always where can people find more Veronica because I know they want more Veronica there's not enough Veronica on the internet I would argue with that but I am at about.me slash Veronica and new episodes of Deer Veronica happen every Wednesday at engadget.com slash deer dash Veronica and of course sword and laser every week at swordandlaser.com with my wonderful co-host Mr. Tom Merritt he's okay I like the girl better on that show but the guy is okay yeah she's smarter he's the only good he's always like trying to pronounce things right he thinks he's so right well he does have better clothing now that he signed 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stop for anything keep on chugging it doesn't matter if your assistant's getting like diced a big goate my day to KEP I don't know that embarrasses my mom my girlfriend I don't know if I can do that give me the accent or the title definitely the accent is offensive in my horrible attempts oh bingo ate my data cab is so funny it is does that have to be it I might have to be it I will say facial profiling is good I do say that Australians get all worked up about bingo ate my baby jokes because that's like their most heinous crime of all time and we are always making jokes about it well it's not their most heinous crime but it's the one that everyone they didn't commit it sorry sorry people the most collectively heinous shared memory of a crime that occurred in Australia let me let me be more specific so anyway but I still think it's funny first Peter Wells were here but since it's not directly several thousand more dollars and you can have them we are going to keep doing headlines like this until you get Peter Wells back come on and because it doesn't actually reference the bingo itself I feel like it can get a pass don't you Roger are you saying no I don't know you think no facial profiling was the discussion topic but that's just me I didn't hear what Roger said sorry even if it doesn't explicitly say that the joke is kind of ripping on that whole so you think it's not a good idea that's just me remember I was almost going to get married to Mr. I know it's a psychological thing now that two people have said it well considering how much our Patreon keeps going up every time Peter plugs his potential show yeah I think maybe that it's not actually a root kit though it's a root certificate hmm you're getting a root certificate it doesn't work as well alright you're right facial profiling is our facial profiling it is and that's a nice pun on racism wow when you start thinking about jokes they're just not funny anymore I know my husband would be very upset I've seen that one I posted today on Twitter about the there's a university I'm trying to remember in Canada the student union basically dropped a yoga program or whatever oh god so bad they considered it one of the cultural appropriation and based on a white supremist structure racial it was it was really stupid it's like if you read it's like come on now you're just like finding a reason to be outraged there are some cultural appropriation issues with yoga for sure but like I don't know wouldn't it depend on how it's done I've never taken a yoga class so I don't know I think there was a is it in Hindu there was a he basically said that as long as you just do the exercise aspect of it it's fine as long as you don't try to weave in the various religious spiritual significance of all these things that you may or may not get so if you just do the exercise you just do the exercise I mean as a Catholic I don't mind people doing confession stretching where they just sit and kneel for 30 minutes waiting like you don't see me running around chasing after people for doing tissue or something's like well where do you do it can I interrupt this post show for a plug okay tonight if you have old school cable if you have not cut the cord even if you have you should watch Disney XD at 8 30 p.m. because my husband and his writing partner wrote a movie called Mark and Russell's Wild Ride and it's going to be on tonight it premieres tonight here's the best part folks if you have Sling TV you can add Disney XD for five dollars for a month and then get rid of it and then you don't have and then you get access to all the Star Wars Rebels so far this year on top of this amazing movie and if you haven't signed up for Sling TV you can get a free trial just saying it's you know it's Star Wars Rebels it's probably the best thing that Disney has done on a Disney XD I signed up for I added the kids pack to Sling TV on purpose to get Star Wars Rebels and it's the best buy ever because instead of having to pay three dollars an episode to get the HD versions for five dollars a month I'm getting four episodes a month and then now as a bonus I can watch Matt's awesome movie Mark and Russell's Wild Ride exactly although I will say I really need to cut the cord I can't just raise my belt by 45 bucks happy birthday Roger we're going to raise your cable rate this is after they already removed my two-year special discount rate I'm like halfway through the expanse, strike it rich I've been watching it as much as I can in little chunks all day long Did anyone watch Jessica Jones or Man in the High Castle yet? We watched all of Season 1 Episode of Jessica Jones and I am hooked it's so good Veronica you have to watch the expanse go to sci-fi.com I know I'm on the they have it on the Goodreads page too so far so good the first episode is up in preview on the webs if you have a browser you can watch it I think it's actually available on sci-fi's app Did anybody get the hammock or a Shlemmer catalog and see the Darth Vader Burr no that's when I was like stop allowing people to merch your movie hey by the way I have finally reached Peak Star Wars trailer personally like I'm still watching them but I'm not excited anymore like they've overdone it yeah the American Music Awards exclusive yesterday was done like ah okay yeah movie now oh did you see the SNL excuse me that distance thing was cute yeah the George Lucas one was actually the best yeah the new cast they have is pretty solid the current cast they have is pretty solid what a Besson L for a while there was pretty shaky are you saying no or yet they had a reboot year and then they got it together right in time it's the election just pick any year since 1978 and you can either say boy the SNL cast has gone down or the SNL cast is finally good again like it's just 50-50 that's what Lord and Michael was talking about on Mark Maron's two hours of podcast remember when Anthony Michael Hall was on SNL? well that was a universally bad year I think he was in two skits that entire year wait who was the other I consider that probably their worst year ever that was the year Lord and Michael wasn't there wait who was the wait who plays Tony Stark Ironman maybe it was the first year he came back I'm sorry that was the first year he came back and he was going to reinvent it Robert Downey he was in for two seasons or one season he was definitely in for one he was actually in skits though unlike Anthony and Michael Hall yeah cause Lord and Michael came back and they were going to do this edgy new different thing I think they're like kids in the hall they did a final season sketch where they joked that everybody was caught in a fire and Lord and Michael came in and only saved John Lovett so that everybody else in the cast was out and they've like never re-aired it it's basically super offensive there were some really weird choices like Janine Garofalo she's funny she was not the weirdest choice I didn't think she was there was just a lot of I think it goes in like spots where there's like a good run for two years Julia Louis-Dreyfus was wasted I actually started watching SNL in the Eddie Murphy years he was pretty much the only good one but Julia Louis-Dreyfus was in for some of those years and she was great but they never used her she was 20 years old or something crazy she was super young aww and a lady and a not totally lady friendly they never put her in any skits the ones they put her in she was awesome nya nya nya one of these things you could talk to her and face to face oh my gosh someone on twitter who was it uh Robert Monti just sent me the search for everything Star Wars on Hamaker Slimmer and they are the Chewbacca slippers Star Wars fleece robe the illustrated Star Wars tome the wake you again Star Wars clock the Star Wars steins Darth Vader humidifier oh my god that's the Disney merchandise machine yeah for sure have you seen the amount of Avengers it's impossible to figure out what's going to be valuable in 20 years the majority of the risk isn't with Disney they just sell you the license and then you know you make tennis shoes and hopefully it sells you pay a percentage to Disney I don't know the Darth Vader pancake maker I think is uh see okay so you don't remember you don't remember during the first you don't know the flower of the dark side they had the uh I used to have a Darth Vader shampoo bottle they used to sell the C-3PO Darth Vader one other as uh shampoo bottles you would twist their head oh my god this is the most dangerous thing I've ever seen the Luke Skywalker knife block in which the knives are on a horizontal plane facing you to make it look like a tie fighter it's insane it's really wait did chemical or chemical go out of business or is that the no if they're out of business they're still getting their catalog Skymall went out of business which was uh full of a lot of hammock or slimmaker Hamtremex slimmaker I always like the two in one devices like the lawnmower slash vacuum cleaner it cuts your carpet and it vacuums your lawnmower I wish they wouldn't do this alright Ellie is getting fussy so we have to quit don't apologize Roger she is our I must apologize she's our clearances person and she's saying you're going too long she's the suit so thanks everybody we'll talk to you later bye