 Welcome both, Anne, Sandra, all yours. Thank you. Hello everyone, my name is Sandra Timon, I am from Madrid, Spain, and I am currently working as a Modern Workplace Consultant of Microsoft, who specializes in the accessibility of Microsoft 365 solutions. Moreover, as the presenter said, I am a person with a blindness because of the wall from syndrome, a very rare neurodegenerative disease. So because of my personal condition, my personal situation of some with disabilities, I am a knowledge about software engineering because I studied software engineering. I love how accessible technologies and powers everyone to achieve more. And especially, I love artificial intelligence and how AI empowers especially people with disabilities to achieve things that wouldn't be possible in the real or physical world. Like, for example, allowing a person with cerebral palsy to communicate and to interact with the computer by using their eyes with the use of Windows iControl. And, well, you may be wondering yourself how I can communicate if I'm a person with hearing disabilities, okay, with a great hearing disability, and how I can use the computer if I'm blind. So, well, I can listen to people because I'm wearing a cochlear implant on my left ear and a hearing aid on my right one. And I can work with the computer because I use two assistive technologies. Firstly, I use the screen reader, which is the software that subscripts the textual information that appears on the screen into a rail or voice synthesis. In my case, I use rail because of my hearing disability. I feel more comfortable reading rail. And secondly, I use the rail displays, which is the hardware device that allows me to read that rail information that is generated by the screen reader. So, I would like to let you know why I decided to study software engineering, having been a person with a blindness, because before deciding to study this degree, I wanted to be a mathematics teacher, but from onset, the National Organization for Blind People in Spain, they told me basically I was crazy, okay, and it's all standard, but you can see the blackboard, and most of the lessons will take place on the blackboard, and it will be quite challenging for you to follow the lessons. So, I stopped and started thinking, okay, I thought that additionally to that reason that might not be a good idea for me, a mathematics degree would have less job opportunities than other careers. So, they suggested me to study computer science because they told me it would be more accessible and easy for me to get this degree. And I started considering the degree basically because of three main reasons. Firstly, because I always liked the STEM careers, and people told me that if I liked mathematics, I would love programming, and they were totally right, I love programming. Secondly, because computer science would have more job opportunities compared to the mathematics degree. And lastly, because I thought I could use my knowledge about software to create accessible software to help create a more inclusive world for people with disabilities. So, finally, I chose this degree, and honestly, I think it was one of the best decisions I could make in my life. And well, then I would like to talk briefly about my job journey, okay, and I started working as a software engineer in an artificial intelligence group in the university. I was working in that group for two years, and then I started thinking I would like to join an international company because I could use my knowledge about accessibility to provide value for a broader audience. So, I liked a lot Microsoft because our solutions, you know, the Windows operating system, Office 365's tools and so on are globally used. So, I thought I could provide my knowledge to improve the accessibility of these tools. So, finally, I joined the company, and honestly, I was quite worried because of joining a huge company with a lot of employees, everyone very busy, and people who were not used to working with colleagues with disabilities like me. So, suddenly, I realized very quickly that I was totally wrong, that everyone was really willing to support me in my onboarding, and they were looking forward to learning about inclusive best practices to better support me. So, we started accommodating the office in physical environment because I faced some challenges when I entered for the first time there. For example, coffee machines and machines to drink water have attached screens, so imagine I couldn't use them because I didn't know where the buttons were. So, we thought that maybe using some stickers would be helpful for me to have a physical reference to easily find with my fingers the buttons. Or, for example, we also changed a little bit our culture because of Microsoft, everyone sits where they want every day. We don't have any seats assigned. So, I thought, oh my God, one day I may sit on the legs of a colleague if they are sitting on some headset and I ask them if the chair is available and they don't answer me. So, we blocked that seat for me. Well, many other accommodations we worked with. And on the other hand, it's not only about accommodating the physical environment, but also about creating an inclusive culture. So, everyone started working to increase the culture, the inclusive, create a more inclusive culture and to share in best practices to be more inclusive. So, everyone, not only me and all the employees that may have some other non-visible disability, all of us could be our best at work. So, now I would like my colleague, Ana, to introduce herself. Ana, the floor is yours. Okay, so, hello everyone. My name is Ana Turzaeta. I'm a customer engineer in Data and Artificial Intelligence in Microsoft and I love AI. So, it's my day-to-day life. So, I try to transmit that passion for AI that I have to my customers. However, I'm not here only for that AI passion, which I have, of course. It's because I was Sandra's mentor when she joined Microsoft. So, I was onboarding here. I was in all this transition, which I can tell that it hasn't been an easy journey. You can now see us talking about all these accommodations and everything that we will talk about even in a funny or in a positive way. But it was quite frustrating and it was like a complicated thing. So, yeah, I'm here just to share all that experience. So, when my manager told me almost three years ago that someone with some hard hearing and blindness would join the team and that I would be her mentor in all her onboarding, I was in shock. So, for me, it was something completely new. I just had questions. I knew nothing about what that involved. But I think at the same time, I had that willingness to have this new experience, to meet Sandra, to be together. So, I think that's where everything started. So, I had lots of questions. Like, if she's hard hearing and blind, how does she talk? Like, does she talk? How does she communicate? How does she use the computer? How does she program? Because I knew she was a great programmer. So, I had lots of questions. But again, all that lack of knowledge that I had made me more attracted to what was going to happen with Sandra. And I was super happy to be on that path with her. So, just to tell you also a bit how it is Sandra's personality, I can tell you at first she's really positive about everything that is going on. But also, she's really challenging. So, the first day that I met her, Sandra was talking. Then I discovered that she could talk, of course. Like, normally. So, on that day, she was talking. And then she said, oh, but you don't know what's a bright display. Of course, I didn't. So, I said, no, Sandra, I have no idea about anything I said, actually, I want to learn it all. So, also, I think it's a journey of learning. So, of course, there are frustrations. Of course, there's things that could be better or we are still improving. But it's a lot of learning that we have done. So, that's a bit about my personal experience. But I would say that for our super team and the company in general in Spain, it has been a bit the same. So, at first, it was a lot about shock or fear. I don't know how to call it. But, yeah, it was just like not knowing what would that involve. And any of us wanted to do something not appropriate. Like, we wanted to control what we were saying, how to treat Sandra. Like, we want to be really welcoming. So, at the end, everything resulted in, actually, bringing good energy to the team. So, we went more together. We were making fun. Like, for example, Sandra wanted to know how each of the members were. So, we were describing each other. So, I was saying, like, Felipe, it's around 40. And, like, today, Alvaro didn't sleep well because his face, it's not very good or something like that. So, we were having a bit of fun in those situations. So, it was funny, but then we realized that all that, like, the big process, the big challenge would come after. So, then, we saw that everything that we were doing as a team needed to change or needed to evolve. So, from the emails that we were sending, the content that we were sharing to each other, all our meetings, everything needed to be transformed and adapted to the different needs that Sandra was bringing. So, just as an anecdote, I would say, just when Sandra arrived, we were going to go to Gran Villa to watch a musical as our team-building event. And, of course, we couldn't be on that with Sandra because Sandra couldn't enjoy as much as that activity, maybe. So, we changed it or we replaced it for a blind dinner. So, actually, in the PowerPoint, you can see the first image on the left, that that's some of our colleagues on that blind dinner, where we could all play the game of seeing what we were eating or, like, guessing what we were eating with the same advantages. So, that was one of the first things that we started to adapt. What else? Also, for the meetings. So, more especially, we needed to focus on how to make all those meetings more inclusive. So, for that, let's start, maybe, defining what's for us or, like, how we see the inclusive behavior. We have already mentioned this word more than once, but it means, basically, to welcome everyone and to make everyone feel part of a team or the meeting in which we are so that they can collaborate. They can be free to share their ideas. They can feel comfortable. That's also quite important. So, we needed to really promote this inclusive culture so that, yeah, everyone, like Sandra, could be there. And, yeah, for meetings, it's at the end the same thing. So, making everyone participant so that they could access all the content that there was shared. So, here, seeing this, you might think, like, what I can do or what we did when someone with some other needs, new needs that we didn't have before as a team, came into the room. So, in that case, I would say the first tip, which is something from our experience, from our team's experience, is asking. So, we always promote, and now we also do it with our customers, that we ask which are the specific needs of people that will be in that meeting, even more if it's remote. So, always asking. Actually, for Sandra, we didn't even need to ask, because Sandra already said, okay, I need this, this, and this. So, we started changing the different behaviors. So, at the end, it's a small details or a small effort for us, but that can make Sandra fully, Sandra or others, of course, fully part of the meeting. So, things that we do, since Sandra joined our team and also the whole company. First, we love PowerPoint slides. So, we have PowerPoint slides in almost all our meetings. And also, more in our field at least, we love diagrams, we love visual things, we love expressing everything visually. So, I can tell you that for Sandra, those diagrams are useless, she sees nothing. So, for us, maybe it was better to have some colors and some nice shapes in the slides, but not for her. So, we started by describing all the PowerPoint slides, for example, that were presented in a meeting, so that she could have that ground base the same as ours. And then we started discussing, we started talking about whatever, but we were describing everything that was going on. Also, for offline communication, so for example, emails that we are sending, we avoid sending a screenshot, because again, for Sandra, a screenshot, it's a pain at the end, because she cannot understand what's inside that screenshot. And we tried to make everything in a descriptive text so that she can read it with a screen reader that she mentioned before. So, that has been a big change. Also, as I said, for remote meetings, it has been like another tsunami, we kind of call it. So, also, small tips that we now know that we need to do with Sandra. Again, for other people, we just need to ask, and others will say what they need to feel included. So, for here, for example, it's mandatory, I would say, to use headphones with microphone or a good microphone when being in a Teams meeting, for example, so that she can hear the voices much, much better. And also, it looks like something really, I don't know, like simple or whatever, but we say our name whenever we start talking. So, when we are in a meeting, even if it's in person or if it's in remote, we always say like, hey, I am Anne, and then I start talking, because for Sandra, it's complicated to link the voices and more if she doesn't know the voices with the actual person. So, those small things can make a great difference. So, that was my message here. Like, small things that we need to ask others what they need, that then we'll make others, yeah, like part of that meeting or part of the environment. So, now Sandra will get more into the AI topics, which we wanted to talk about. So, at the end, we can have some inclusive behaviors, we can do some actions in purpose, but then there is AI who can make some extra power, it can bring us some extra power to make all those things better. So, Sandra? Yeah, thanks, Anne. Yeah, so let's talk a little bit more about AI for accessibility, okay? Because, you know, we have a lot of accessibility tools and features, and a difficult, intelligent cut-up, a layer of personalization to those tools to switch better the needs and preferences of every user. And these accessibility tools can empower us to be our best at the workspace and even in our personal life, like in the example I mentioned at the beginning for a person with cerebral palsy that before couldn't communicate, and now, using their eyes, they can use the mouse pointer, type on the screen keyboard, and use text-to-speech to communicate with other persons. So, this is wonderful. There are a lot of accessibility tools that they are not only important for people with permanent disability, okay, but for people with temporary and situational disability. At Microsoft, we talk about this classification of three types of disabilities, permanent or variant situation, where I suppose you all know what temporary disability means. It could be, it might be, for example, that you break your arm, and during a shorter or longer period of time, you can use, obviously, one of your abilities, of your arms, to use the mouse or the keyboard. So, this is something that can happen to anyone. But I'm curious about knowing if you ever heard of the situational disability, because this is the disability, the type that I liked the most. I love talking about this type of disability, because this is the most common and the one that can affect anyone at any time. Actually, any of these disability types, I've mentioned, permanent or variant situation, can affect anyone of us at any time, but the third one usually happens because of an external factor, okay, that causes us not having all of our abilities during a very specific moment. So, I would like to give some examples to clarify what situational disability is. Okay, so the first example might be that you are walking from home and you are holding your child in your arms, so you wouldn't be able to use your hands to do anything. And, for example, you received a mobile phone call and you would need to answer to it, so you could use speech recognition, we see if you have an iPhone, for example, to answer the mobile phone call. So, this is why accessibility features at the end are useful, beneficial for everyone. Okay, or, for example, you could even, in this scenario of holding your child in your arms, use your voice to dictate the content of an email that you need to reply to or gently, for example. And, I would like to tell you that speech recognition that is an accessibility feature that uses artificial intelligence was originally designed and developed for people with mobility disability for patients from the rehabilitation medicine in New York at the 70s. So, they could operate their wheelchair with their boys. That is surprising. And, this is an example of a feature that was initially designed for people with disability, whether permanent or temporary. But, at the end, it's being globally used, it's everywhere, okay, the speech recognition in our cars, computers, mobile phones, and it's being used globally by everyone with and without disabilities. So, additionally, it's also an example of how accessibility drives innovation by using artificial intelligence. And, this is the definition we mentioned at the beginning. It's AI for accessibility. Other example of situational disability, quite common, I think, might be that you need to join a meeting while you are in an airport, for example, and there's a lot of background noise, so you wouldn't be able to listen to it if you forgot taking your headsets. And, even live captions for this scenario would be really useful for you to be able to better understand what is being said in the meeting, although you can't listen to it properly. And, this feature was also designed initially for people with hearing disability. But, it's not useful only for people with this kind of disability, but also for people who may be with this situational disability of being in a noisy environment. And also, it could be beneficial to sweet the preferences and needs of anyone. For example, I have a colleague at Microsoft that he's a person with hearing disability and he speaks English very well, but he always enables live caption because he feels more comfortable by receiving information with two senses, with sight and hearing. So, this is another example of accessibility features that use AI and can benefit everyone. And now, well, I have mentioned some accessibility features. There are many other accessibility features, but I would like to talk about the main ones that my colleagues and I use to collaborate more inclusively and to organize inclusive meetings. So, firstly, when I join a meeting, I ask my colleagues, apart from using headset, okay, like Annie told you, I always ask them to enable noise suppression that uses artificial intelligence to remove the background noise and only keeps the voice. I always turn on also, like, transcript. This is a feature I suggested when I joined Microsoft because I realized that, well, I read quite slowly with my viral display and I never had time to read caption in real time. So, I thought that having, like, an historical of all the captions would be really useful for me to be able to review them at my own pace. And even, I thought it could be beneficial for people without disabilities because I always like thinking about things that can benefit everyone, not only people with disabilities, that anyone could take advantage of this life transcript if you are, for example, working from home and suddenly you are disrupted by your children and then when you try to continue listening to the meeting, you don't understand why they are talking about a specific topic. And you could review this life transcript, the previous captions, to understand why they are having that conversation. And I think this is really useful because then you get a file, a transcript file that you can download and keep to review at any time and look for specific words or specific parts of the meeting. And lastly, and one of the most important accessibility features for me is that I always ask my colleagues to use to run the accessibility checker. Before sharing any document, mainly PowerPoint presentation, as Anette told you that we love using PowerPoint decks. So this feature helps you find and fix potential accessibility issues that your presentation may have. Like, for example, setting the proper reading order because screen reader user like me, we read the content of the slide by navigating it with the keyboard, by pressing the top key. And that would be the order in which we would read the content. I mean, the order, the default order I would read the content would be that one in which you include the different elements, not necessarily a logical order to understand the content. So accessibility checker helps you set the proper, the logical reading order. Also it helps you identify images that may not provide any alternative description. And with the use of artificial intelligence, it provides, generates automatically generic descriptions that may be very suitable for images that are not very complex. So if you need to create quickly a PowerPoint presentation, it can be really helpful because you don't need to type a textual description for that image. And well, this is some of the accessibility features at the most relevant for me, but I'm sure I'm living behind many other interesting accessibility features, but well, this is all for me. Anette, what do you want? Okay, so now I'll take over and our idea now in this last part, I can say would be to open a bit our minds and to think a bit outside of what we have been doing with Sandra or her specific needs. So we just collected a few examples and at the end, there is our favorite app that we will show you also to see how accessibility can be applied in other contexts. So just few examples to see how all this can be also used. So the first one would be the inclusive classrooms. So at the end, nowadays in our classrooms, that there could be different types of people or children or students that have different needs, of course, that we always say that there's people with different needs or different preferences that they might have. So imagine, for example, that whenever the professor or the teacher is talking on the back, like on the slide that you are seeing on the picture, there could be transcripts or life captions of everything that the professor is saying. So for someone like the colleague of Sandra that he prefers to have some voice but also read an input, you could have both and maybe you would get the concepts a bit better if you are reading also. And imagine there is international students or people that maybe don't control the language so much. We could have also in real time those transcripts in other languages. So the professor or the teacher would be still talking on their own language and at the same time, there will be different languages on the background. The same happens for people, for example, with some hearing problems that might want to get the hearing input, like some not hearing but visual, I was going to say. So getting some hearing input in other languages. So we could have some automatic speech translation and if the professor is talking in Spanish and I want to hear the class in English, I could do that in real time. There's other use cases that we could use, for example, nowadays it's more and more common that we record classes. So imagine instead of having the recording with MP4 but also a text as Sandra said with all the transcripts, I could just like control F, like find whatever word that I want to go back to and maybe read again what the teacher said and have all that text written for me like all the class in text can be quite useful. Again, not only with people with disabilities but for all of us, I guess. And at the end, we were talking about different use cases and we thought about one that might sound a bit more science fiction but actually it's a reality that Microsoft is building this. It's a sign language interpreter. So imagine there is someone that wants to have some sign language interpreter in the class and that there is no one that could help. So then this translator could translate from sign language to natural language which is, I guess, quite great. And then we wanted to talk about the immersive reader which is a product we think quite complete and that it has different features inside of it. It can help or we will talk about, for example, for learning purposes or for accelerating the learning of people that maybe might have some issues there or might have some difficulties to learn in what we call normal way. So then you can customize your reading experience completely. So in immersive reader, it's available in different office products and also in Edge in the best of browser. So you can select, well, from simple things like selecting the font, the size, the contrast of the text that you are reading. You also avoid distractions. So imagine I want to read the news today. So instead of having the news page and then all the ads and all the colors and everything there, I could have just plain text in the color that I want. I could even highlight the different words that I want to highlight. I want to highlight verbs or nouns. This is really helpful for kids or for people with dyslexia, for example. Also for kids in the autism spectrum, they could benefit from some pictograms that are also part of the immersive reader. So, well, I forgot there's in the slide the voice option. Like if I want to read the news, for example, I actually read it sometimes and I am doing other things which happens frequently, I can hear them. So a voice that I choose in the language that I select would read through the news. So again, another example that anyone in different situations could benefit of these accessibility features. And now a bit more random cases that we want to add also here, but just to cover as we have been focusing a lot in hearing and sight issues because of our experience actually, we want to go a bit farther. So for example, there is an app there. You can see it in the left part of the slide which was developed in Canada. The idea is to reduce the anxiety of people that now after COVID are going to the streets and they don't want to get into busy streets and getting like less than two meters away from people. So the app would tell you which is the best route to go to where you want to go, avoiding the streets which might be a bit more full. So it learns from historical data of where people usually flow and it would guide you into the best way for you. So the idea here is mental health which we sometimes forget, but also it's part of the accessibility world. Mental health issues are a part of neural disability, the most common cause today for neural disabilities. So this is an important feature for this kind of difference type of disability. Exactly. The other one would be just, and I put this picture because you can see what is a cochlear implant. So the guy who is doing the spinning class is wearing a cochlear implant, which is exactly what Sandra is wearing. So he has some hearing problems we think and in this case he is using some spinning classes with the live transcript. So he can be reading what the teacher is saying to do. So we get much easier for him to read it through. And then the last one I control. We just wanted to leave it there just to say that you can control your computer, everything on your computer, your mouse. You can click. You can interact with your computer using your eyes. So this is more for motor accessibility. It's really useful and it's already also there. And you can control windows with the eye control. And our favorite app, and I know we are running kind of out of time, so we will go quite fast. So this is one of the apps that we like the most if it's not the most. So seeing AI, it's how people with blindness or with some sight issues could actually see and could interact with their environment. So seeing AI, it's available as a mobile application. There is some, yeah, some demo there. And you can recognize people. You can see the expression of the people who are around you. You can go on the street and you can see what's around you, like if it's like trees, if it's a park, if there's children, if there's people doing sports, you can do all that. Also, doing the groceries, for example, or going to a restaurant might be quite challenging, as Sandra knows. So for those cases, seeing AI can help, for example, Sandra, as you can see right now in the video, to scan a product and it will tell you, okay, this is tomato. This is like whatever product. And also in the restaurant menus, like it would read you which are the options. So you don't need to ask someone to read it through. It's a matter of gaining autonomy at the end. So this app, in that case, is in production and it's quite good. And also for currency. So this is something also Sandra uses quite a lot to see how much money she has. So I guess that's something quite useful too. So maybe we're going to close Sandra with the last reflection that we had. Yeah. I would like you to share a final conclusion, a final reflection. And it's that artificial intelligence seeks not to replace people and the work they do, but to complement it. I mean, in the example that Anna told you about the translation tool between sign language and natural language, that tool wouldn't cease to replace the sign language interpreter because artificial intelligence is not perfect, but in the case that there is no sign language interpreter available in that specific situation, it can actually help a person with deafness to be more autonomous. So artificial intelligence is to help us make things easier and to be more autonomous. Yeah. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Sandra and Anne, I'm coming here to join you because my God, this has been amazing, fantastic. You had this sentence, there is no limit. Think big. You are clearly, both of you, the example that there is no limit. And both of you, you are referenced in many ways as women, as ladies, young girls, as students in STEM, now working in a STEM in a company such like Microphone, a multinational company. My God, we'll talk about that if we have time. We have a few minutes for questions and they were asking you in, well, AI is clearly helping accessibility. Sandra was mentioning even more because disability is an accelerator for innovation in this sense. What's missing? You mentioned some of the work you're doing, but what will be your, as we say, your wishful, your bucket list of wishes that you will solve eventually in the future or in the near future? What's missing? What else can AI do? Or would you like AI to do? I can see Sandra thinking. That's a good question. I can take a joke here. This is like improvising a lot, but before that we were up there, she was saying, I would like to see an AI app to be able to tell me if a guy eats beautiful or not. So, if you ask her, she can just dream about it. Well, but dreams are the first way. Artificial intelligence could help up to learn what I like and what not to tell. Hey, this guy is happy and he's also handsome, so... Well, that would be... For a menu in the restaurant it would be also useful to not force me to read all the comprehensive menu, but to learn about what I like and what not and that really suggests, hey, as I know you like this, you have these dishes, for example, to help me decide more quickly, honestly. But as Anne was a very good point, especially for the handsome or not handsome, because that would help us a lot. People with visual disabilities, everybody. You were mentioning that, Anne, that a lot of the good aspects, there are many good aspects, as Sandra was saying, AI and all this innovation makes people with disabilities lives possible, but also other people with no disabilities, it helps our life much more. You were mentioning some examples of products or apps that actually help us in a daily life. I mean, some people can be very undecisive if a boy is handsome or not or what to choose in a restaurant, even me. I mean, the car sometimes driver, I receive all this WhatsApp, I say, please read them to me, read them. I like this machine to speak to me instead of me having to read them, risking my life driving a car. So in this sense, are there any more... Where is the limit? Would AI eventually become all these innovations for everybody that people with disability will use in the same way? Or there will always be a bit of a difference? Will that be a dream come true, Anne, Sandra? Yeah, for sure. I would like this technology not to differentiate between people with and without disabilities, because at the end I think that everyone has different needs and preferences and that anyone can experience any type of disability at any moment, as I said. Even we should think that we are aging into disability. People start losing their abilities of sight, hearing, and it's very important to keep in mind accessibility of everything. Yeah, here I would add that AI should respond to personalisation. So it's about personalising my needs, personalising my situation, personalising my current status. Very important what you said, Sandra, because all of us will have a disability in our life time and you mentioned you differentiate the three types, the temporary, I have it written down the temporary, the situation, and the permanent. So eventually we'll all have it. So the dream will be that all this AI and technology will help us equally the same way because we're driving, I want the WhatsApp to be read to me and Sandra needs it to be in the office or to read the news for her. We're running out of time, so the next clear question is as women, as I say, as STEM, as working in a multinational, your reference to many people, who or what was your reference, how did you get that passion for AI in your case, Anne or you, Sandra, how did you come up with that and what would you recommend women and women, parents, I mean I have an 11-year-old girl so I would like her to study STEM and to go into and to follow your steps via, you know, a developer or a programmer in a multinational like how do we teach them, how do we inspire them, obviously I'm going to, first of all, show them this video to see, you know, what we can do, but how, what do we start and what would you recommend? Do you want to start? How do you have those ideas so clear being so young, you know? Like for me, technology, this might sound like a bit abstract but it's kind of a power and a tool that I have to actually change the world and like when I say think big, it's think big and like for me personally when I met Sandra, everything that has happened to me in the previous years was like a tsunami as I said, so everything changed and now I really think on the power of technology to change things, to drive innovation to change people's lives so that's like my daily motivation so you always had it then? Yeah, okay. And your case, Sandra? That's my case too, because I think when I want to inspire inspire children you know, girls I always tell them that if they are creative they can think of anything they would like to achieve you know, and then create a software, a technology that can help them achieve that goal so this is what Anna has told that you can change the world you can... I started following artificial intelligence because it's actually help us achieve things that wouldn't be possible by ourselves you know, like what I tell the example of a person with hearing disability wouldn't be able to listen or to communicate without captions based on artificial intelligence because artificial intelligence help us achieve things easier and more positively but for people with disabilities especially it makes things possible actually What a good sentence to summarize all this and it's very treatable to make our life easier for a lot of us but possible for a lot as well so, Anne from Microsoft, thank you so much for being with us today