 So we had the ID TechX and hi, so who are you? Hello, my name is Zachary James Davis I'm a team manager at the Danish Technological Institute. So the Danish Technological Institute is in Copenhagen. Yeah Yeah, that's right and a two-stroke Copenhagen and what are you showing here? What was this? So basically what we're doing is is trying to cover the entire value chain from powders of nanomaterials like silver and copper And then we take these nanoparticles and formulate them into inks. This is an inkjet ink containing nano silver particles and then we can take those particles and Then ink to print them into something like NFC antenna, which is what we see here And this is a totally inkjet printed both the conductive and also the dielectric materials and then we have also a Simple LED on there, which it would slide up when you When the powers weren't running, but it's not doing it So yeah, and who are you? Hello, my name is Martin Sondergaard. I work with synthesis and development of nanoparticles at the Danish Technological Institute So I make some of these particles in the lab Conductive materials of phyllis and print electronics and also for instance magnetic materials. What is this? This is a Superparamagnetic material we made She will check to the magnet, but once you remove the magnet the magnetization disappear Very quickly. So what is that useful for? It could be used We try to use an application for electromagnetic shielding So so in what kind of maybe it could go in if you want to Electronics So the idea if you want to put this on if you want an msc tag on a coke can a coke can It's a metallic so if you put the tag directly on there won't work So what you need is a fair magnetic layer That's sort of shielding the the metallic properties from the tag itself And that's so in you are also to print that so we make particles with that Paramagnetic materials well nice and who are you hi? I am Christian galsy. I also work at DCI as a team manager I work with the slightly different materials. So also nanomaterials, but basically they are catalytic So if we use for sensing but also for collect material for futiles or other things so How many people are in the Danish Technological Institute? I think in total DTI has a over a thousand Thousand workers All across Denmark, but working with very very different technologies some like for example meat technology agriculture life science and even Concrete etc. What we're doing is we're a small center about 30 people working within Micronomes technologies for example nanomaterials print electronics energy systems, etc So how are you the leaders to Denmark with this kind of stuff? Oh, yeah, definitely Yeah, so how far is Denmark? I'll say Denmark within the printed electronics world where we just started like three three to four years ago So and but but we are not working in a lot of people working with the printing And but we are very very focused on the nanomaterials and how to produce those in very large amounts So and that's actually that the biggest challenge with imprinted to get nanomaterials into the print electronics industry So are you how far are you in this? well, we just actually Have a built a reactor that can actually Produce over 20 kilos of nano copper a day, which is quite I think Probably the most you can do and anywhere in the world So so it's something that we're really in and this is sort of a pilot scale production To show industry that it can be done. So, yeah And that it can be done. Yeah, you don't just want to be able to do it You want to do it for real? I mean changing the market or something. Yeah, I mean, so so the idea is that Right now everybody's using silver, which of course we can also do silver Copper is about a hundred times cheaper in raw material So we can if we can you know produce large amounts of copper We can then replace silver then we have something that is a game changer So, let's let's stand up over here to talk about so what's going on? Is something going on here? What is this? So this is actually very interesting. This is a European project We just started first of January It's basically an open innovation test bed Which is then bringing together the experts within Europe within printed electronics So if you see here, we have partners like TNO CPI in the UK rise in Korea and Sweden and Spain this year in France And also from Germany. So so this are the leading sort of a research organizations working with imprinted electronics So the idea is that customers can come in get services and get access to pilot pilot lines Specific to their needs So it's a one-stop, you know get it all in one place sort of shop. You can say so With all the partners everybody is doing something different. Yeah, exactly. Everybody has a expertise exactly some of them are providing for example, you know Technical modeling economic modeling lifecycle assessment safety regulation regulatory issues, etc. Support even IPR services And then of course you have done the pilot lines. We have nanomaterial pilot lines. That's what DTI is doing We have Formulation lines where they're making pace Composites and we have a lot of printing lines like ink chip printing screen printing roll-to-roll printing Etc. And all the partners have their niche within the within the consortium. So This is the EU kind of project. Yeah is all European. It's all it's all European project at this point. Yeah, and This kind of collaboration makes everybody stronger or what yeah exactly so so so the thing is you know for DTI For example, we're really strong with nanomaterials and scaling up nanomaterials, but we're not good at Scaling up roll-to-roll production of a printed component. So that's we need partners that can that can you know With the right synergies so we can actually do something, you know that they can't do and we can't do to get we can Do it together. All right So but what's the the main vision right here? for all this industry all the stuff that you're doing right here, it's For the printed So the idea is to really go within the printed electronics to actually bring customers or entrepreneurs Anybody that has a crazy idea give them, you know The the the tools and the services they need to actually bring their idea to market. So that's the whole idea of Lebed all right and Because there's a lot of cool print electronics kind of stuff, right? Yeah, totally. We want to see more and more and Products, yeah, exactly. I mean in big quantities. It's happening I'm it's I mean we see a lot of Push, you know even from even larger companies like medical companies want that you know for example to have existing a Products on the market bringing more functionality me bring more sensing into their products We also see a lot of Entrepreneurs that want they have a really interesting idea that that can you know, can we bring this into apartment? Can we make it? for example a a wireless Diaper that can you know tell if there's Somebody's what they're bad, etc. There's a lot of different things and we see a lot of companies coming in and even you know Entrepreneurs as well. Do you work with the universities? We do and in the special. I mean in some cases for example We some of the technology we have used for producing nanomaterials actually come started at the university So they have the basic research. We bring it to to industry and then the students Collaborate with you and then maybe they want a job. Yeah, exactly. We have we actually do postdoc PhD scholarships They work in our labs and yeah, usually nine times out of ten. They actually start they they continue with us