 Let folks know that the meeting is now currently being recorded so everyone should see something that pops up on the screen that says recording as well as the meeting may be aired on a CTV's website. We're not quite at forum yet, forum yet so. I don't have to say all of that now. Yeah, but that's okay. Okay, all right well thanks Jen thanks for setting us up. We'll see you later. Bye. Can I make you host? No. No. Yes. Hey Matt. Well hello here we are. I'm actually gonna. Okay. Good evening everybody welcome to the June 13th meeting of the Amherst Cultural Council. This meeting is being recorded and so all participants should be aware of that. Pursuant to chapter 20 of the acts of 2021. The meeting is being conducted via remote means, there will be no in person access for members of the public, but members of the public may access the meeting via zoom. The link was noticed and paid placed on the town site. More than 48 hours in advance of the meeting. And then if folks have any trouble accessing the meeting in real time, they can view it on the town's YouTube channel as well. And we can handle any kind of technical difficulties that arise as they as they come up over email. So I'll go around and we'll just do a quick audio check make sure we can hear us and be heard and I'll just read off my screen. Eleanor. Yes. Leah. Yes. Robin. Yes. And Rachel. Yes. And so we're at core I'm with five and I suspect some folks will be able to join us in a little bit. And I will pull up our agenda we this should be I think it should be an interesting meeting. Hopefully, we will stay within the 60 to 90 minute definitely within the 90 minute range and possibly within the 60. But we definitely have some things to discuss. And I want to thank Rachel and Rachel, we will. We will post an updated agenda into the onto the website so that we include this item on there but a discussion about, I think a discussion about the outreach efforts that you know every cultural council is required to make outreach efforts and we do so through our public participation. But obviously there are more systematic ways of doing that and we're always trying to increase public participation in our process. So I really just want to thank Rachel for doing the research on that. And Rachel if you're ready to jump right in on some of that right now I think it'd be great to just sort of you ask some really good guiding questions and I clicked on several of those links and I saw there's some diversity. Go ahead Leah. So we have. Did you email out the agenda or should I just write up notes. Oh, I'm sorry. I will share the agenda with you. The agenda is posted but I may not have emailed it out and that's my fault. I apologize. Oh, got it. Sorry, I usually get it from no worries. Okay, it's my fault. I'm a little bit out of pocket today to be totally honest with you so let me see. The agenda is definitely like hard to be doing things on time. I was going to ask if anybody wanted to talk about potentially canceling our next or July meeting that might be a good idea July is usually kind of a dead month for us. I'm a little busy these days and we have so many interesting things going on I hate to outright cancel it, but Leah I'm going to I'll create a minutes document off the agenda and share that with you in like two minutes and like 30 seconds. Hopefully. Yeah I already have a minute document, but okay, okay. Well, in that case, I will, I have not emailed it out so I can, I think I think you're good just to just attract us as we go. Because I neglected to add Rachel's discussion to the minutes but I will update them. I will update them and we'll get an updated set of minutes posted as well. Today and I also don't think that we're going to necessarily take any binding action on this survey right here right now so I think we'll be will be within the open meeting law constraints. So, I did also send out a set of minutes for approval. If we want to prove those real quick we could also do that. Yes I see. We're not in your head. Does anybody want to make a motion to approve last month's minutes. Motion to approve maze minutes. In a second. Okay, we'll do a quick roll call Leah. Approach. I'm a yes and Rachel. Yes. Okay great. All right, so the minutes are approved. And I will send those along to Angela for posting and thank you so much for being on top of those they really look great. As always. Okay, so, so Rachel, do you want to discuss now or do you want to wait. Yeah, because I'm going to have to go at seven o'clock anyway so. Perfect. So, I don't know if all of you had a chance to look at the email that Matt forwarded that you know I had drafted two weeks ago is interesting because I went through the list of the sample surveys that MCC for shared with us. And of the ones that I mean I looked through all the ones that they shared and picked out the few that I thought would be most useful for our purposes. And you'll notice that the funding levels of all the ones that I chose are actually quite different from ours. And I, so I guess that's not necessarily a reflection of how much money. Local councils are allocated but like how much thought they put into how to use that money or how to allocate that money. So I thought their questions were all, you know, could be helpful to us and I and I listed in each case how many questions they had in their survey right as the outline I don't saw that part in the email so I don't know if I should share screen or not or Matt I don't know if you could. Do you think it's better if we just talk generally about the, the categories of information that we that I posed to see if we want all of those types of information and to what extent to what you know how granular do we want to get. So, I don't know if it's better to just start generally just start with the categories I think that's that's a smart way to go about it and find out what you know what do we want to know, and then right. And I mean, I'll just say personally I really think. So the four categories that Rachel suggested were awareness. So awareness of us of our grants and granting. Sorry Rachel, you go ahead I don't mean to, I don't mean to take it. Oh no it's fine I mean yes because I don't have my email in front of me but I can okay. I have it up if you want me to read. Okay, so let's see and then there was the. So there's awareness. Because do people know I mean they might come across the events but do they know that ACC has a role, or sometimes kind of a very major role in funding these programs, and let's see and then how if so how do they find out about, you know where to get their information. I put perceptions of funding priorities I put perceptions because we as a council know what our funding priorities are but what what do the residents but what what do they think about how you know we prioritize right so I think, maybe you disagree with with that approach but I think I think it's more like understanding what people actually think or about how we make decisions. Where priorities lies for funding, and then the last two categories are really about the respondents themselves so who are they. In terms of their demographics and also to what extent do they participate, or in in the events and programs that ACC funds. So, I suppose when it comes to participation there, there are two levels to it one is just how much do these respondents. Take part, generally it doesn't matter who's funded the events right so whatever local programs are available regional programs and then to are they are they specifically interested in what ACC is doing in terms of programming so that's that's just maybe less relevant but it's more like what what are they participating in. So those are the four categories I came up with just generally speaking and. So maybe people can just, we can have a discussion about what we think about that and just just so you know the. I asked the first two categories of question in terms of awareness and perception just to have a sense of. Do the residents who are whose tax monies are helping to fund ACC's budget are, are they aware, do they know are they are they in line with what we think we're trying to do. That makes sense and if not is how do we address that from you know the the sources or the channels that would be most effective so it's really I think it's really at the core about communications. And making sure everyone is kind of on the same page to to that extent so please jump in with your ideas and thoughts. Just one thing I think it's funded through the lottery. No through Texas, so. Right I just meant that you know in terms of what people think like how are we directing those funds I should say right. Yeah. So, I will say I mean I think it's helpful for me to, I really appreciate you, first of all just doing the research and then putting these categories out there because, you know, it does both things for me it helps it helps me think about what do I want to know. And it also gives me a sense of what other people are doing. And looking through these and I'd have to go back and reopen some of them to figure out which ones are which but my, my, my personal interests lies mostly in guidance around well, I guess a couple areas one is one is what kinds of things. Do people want that they're not getting, because that helps us think about our local grant activities. So I'm in the north, the north borough one and they have a question. The arts and cultural programs or services that are most value to me, like I think in the community wide performances art exhibits and programs educational programs programs towards the elderly and adults programs towards children. I think it's really is really nice because it's a, what does the community want and need question. And I think that's something that we with our local funds, you know, can certainly as we we've, you know, we distribute a slate of grants, and then we can look and say okay what didn't we hit from the community values and things that we didn't hit from the community values we can then find ways to fund those through through local funds. But personally, I'm very interested in that and sort of a community values type question. And then obviously the other thing that I'm most interested in is are just elevating our profile for for prospective applicants, you know diversifying and expanding our pool of applicants and just just asking folks if there's anything we can. The problem is that the people who fill out the survey are the ones who are already, you know, seeing the activity so I don't want to overly invest in that but but I think it's still worth asking what more can we do to be a public face like we're going to do Juneteenth this weekend Robin thank you for stepping up to help with that and and excited about that and I'm excited that you know that we're able to help support Juneteenth financially as well. But we'll have a booth there and we can be doing some you know public facing promotion at that time as well. But I guess those are my two big questions you know what does the community want and then how do we, you know how can we be more accessible to them. Leah, please. Um, I was going to ask, I have like two quick things, kind of in the like, how do you send out a survey. Like, where, how are these places like what email lists are they using because it feels like we can't use the like cultural council because like if we want to find out how many people are aware of it. Like the people on our list would probably be aware of it so I'm wondering how they find this database to email. And then I also really liked one of the councils I forget which one had like a new place it was like an optional question and it was like we're still looking for new members. Um, if you're interested just put your email in and I thought that was great because it will probably end up being a little bit more skewed towards interested people and I thought that was like really smart to use that platform to look for new members. So that might be a nice thing to put like at the end. Excellent point. Yeah, I, well, I really agree. I think I'm, you know, interested in accessibility and like what people are interested in engaging with. I just wanted to note one question that I really liked on the Northboro one that I think, I don't know, I can see, I can see a world in which we wouldn't want to include something like that because I think it is kind of optional and it makes the survey longer but they asked like what do you think gives our town like a unique character. And like kind of what defines it and I just was really moved by that I was like that's a very. Just a touching thing to ask people like what they see in the town and then like we could then think about how we want to incorporate that or how we want to reflect that and the events and like the artists that we support. I loved that kind of zoomed out like what do you like about this town and what do you see in this community. That's like unique and meaningful to you. So I liked that they weren't just doing super specific cultural council stuff but I could also see us wanting to kind of save that for another avenue. Another time but I just enjoyed that a lot. Rachel did Northboro post their results anywhere. No, I included the results where we're available and because the links from the MCC were for the last fiscal years survey so some of them by the time that I was sending the email to you and Julian for this meeting we're already not available for viewing. So no, I was not I didn't see it but but I think Rockland posted their results so you can see how certain cultural councils are very much on top of these things are very proactive about, you know, getting this information out and updating it. And then what I thought was interesting is that the Falmouth for the amount of grant allocation they have how detailed they got with their surveys and I thought oh wow like so I wonder you know what the response rate would have been. So if, like, I agree with all of you that I found Northboro's survey really interesting how they did it. And so if there were like one or two that we think are worth consulting in more detail I'd be happy to just contact those people and ask them, you know, to say to you would you mind. You know, sharing what you found was useful about the survey or you know results or if they would have any suggestions for us doing something like this but you know that's that's just just a thought that just occurred to me so. Leah. I was going to add on I also. Oh, please go ahead. Oh, I was going to say I really liked fall follow out survey, especially like when they went into demographics they asked about like, they said what's your connection to the arts and cultural life like are you consuming. Are you an artist yourself. Are you like a volunteer. And I thought that was interesting. And then also asking when they said how would you rate it. Like one is like getting stronger and one's like getting weaker so like asking about how they think the trajectory has been especially for like longer residents like because if they think it's like, okay, we might want to see if they thought it was bad but getting better or not good but getting worse. I don't know I thought that was like an interesting angle to ask the question. Yeah, I think the. I, the reason I put in that category in our for ours about demographics is I think it yeah it'd be interesting to see what the current profile is, but for Amherst, right because the population is shifting. So it'd be interesting to have a sense of that. And we could, you know if we wanted to we could, we could get more detailed about demographics. So it's really up to us how we want to structure a questionnaire and we had to answer your earlier question about how the survey would get distributed. I think early on when the time when Mindy sat in our meeting. Recently Mindy Dom. And she had, I think she had suggested contacting. Jennifer moisten or Brianna at the town council to help us with the distribution of the questionnaire and I think the timing of it could they would be certainly in a good position to advise us on when and how to distribute it. And they would have a broader reach of the town as a whole obviously. And I had, you know, raised this thing in passing last time about well if we have the social media accounts for ACC. We could send questions that way, but I don't know what the response rate would be and how many people would see it in the first place so we want to move this discussion forward. Like, do we do we agree on the categories of information that Matt just highlighted as well. And I think Eleanor supported and go from there. Is it too soon to do a draft of the questionnaire that, you know, for our purposes. No, I think that's exactly where I was going to suggest. We go is a draft and you know I mean this being Amherst I think we, well you're always have to be conscious of survey fatigue and I agree with, I think it was Leah who pointed out some of these are quite quite lengthy. And so, you know, one thing about Google Forms is you can choose whether you want to do multiple pages or a single page, you know and I would advise a single page I know people have different opinions about that but I think a single page for me as a a completer. I like to see how far you know how long it's going to take me. And if it's, you know, fewer than between five and 10 I'd say items. I think you can get a decent response rate out of that and. But but yeah I mean Rachel if you're willing to, you know, take and I would I would also be but just because you've done the research and I think you've synthesized a lot more than any of us. So maybe willing to just sort of put together a few draft items and they don't need to be complete but maybe just sort of the prompts and then we could all brainstorm at our next meeting I would love to be able to distribute this. We're like at least a month before our, our grant cycle opens, because that way we can maybe gain some exposure on potential applicants, and also it can give us some guidance when we go into grant making around you know what are we. It may actually help inform what we're looking for. Ideally, yeah that that is that that is the case and I think that was one of the reasons that I think MCC encourages local cultural councils to do these surveys in the first place. So I mean I'm fine to just start I could I could make a template of a Google form with sample questions or just questions that you all can comment on and I think I agree that it's, it's, it's probably most realistic to just do a single page form to you know because I think that would have a better chance of getting more responses and, and I think the key I don't know if you all agree but I feel like whenever I get these surveys. I'm more likely to complete it right away if the questions posted me don't require a huge amount of thought. I'm replying to a survey that I think would be useful to whoever's asking questions and I wanted to give them information that they want but if it's going to take me too long to like put that information together and and give it to them then. I might just set it aside for the time being I don't know I'll get back to it depends on how important it is right to, to me to, to actually complete this and I don't know how important it's going to be to most people to complete a survey from the cultural council so. So the easier we can make the responses, the better. So I'm going to just use that as a guiding principle if you all all agree with that approach. I think that's, that's a great approach and I really appreciate you saying that about keeping that, not being too existential with the questions. Although at this I also like, as Leah said sort of trying to tease out the you know underlying values to, but I think you can, you can do that with a couple open response questions at the end and people know much they want to provide. But no I think yeah, yeah, yeah it's up to them right exactly exactly. Well thank you really please Robin yeah. I suppose there's any way to add a one page survey with the exercise text bills go out or the census or anything like that. Just, I doubt it but you know how they're adding registration for voting with other things like it gets put in with other things and stuff just. It doesn't hurt to ask, you know, there might be some competition in terms of a paper survey to circulate something and that might be a more involved process but it doesn't hurt to ask because we're going to be asking anyway for them to help distribute it electronically so we might as well say and we'd be happy to provide it in print if you'd like that instead so you know I think it's a good idea. Yeah I think it's certainly worth asking I agree, because if it's put into a communications like a townwide communications it, it depends on how many other items are in that communication right it could just get lost in the shuffle but but it will help us reach everybody. So, Matt, do you want to ask whoever's at the town or do you want me to ask because I'm not sure exactly what I should be asking. Let's get our, I think we should probably get a little bit further along in developing survey. Wouldn't Angela be the person to talk to first. Yeah, yeah. But I think, I think Matt what would be probably worthwhile doing is just mentioning if you know if it's Angela, if Angela is the person that it might be worth mentioning to her just say we're thinking we're planning to do this when might be a good time to just just so she has it kind of on her radar. I'll be happy to reach out as well and just sort of. He's a good thought partner and he's supportive of this. Okay, so, so do you want to just ask them and just or just tell them that with where we're thinking or planning to do this and so that they have it in mind. I mean, I can I promise you I mean Brianna has been great about press releases and helping us circulate stuff so they will definitely mobilize to help us with it. And we'll just have to, but I agree it's a good idea to get their advice in terms of timing. So, right. So I'll go ahead and put together a draft or template survey for you all to come and talk. Procedure procedure wise Matt, there's the, is it okay if I send it to all of you or do I need to send it to you and Julian to distribute to the rest of us how does that work in terms of your meeting laws or whatever else. Well, we really just we can't conduct public business over email that's kind of where it where it breaks down a little bit so I think it's, it's fine to circulate a draft to everybody. But it'd probably be better to just send it to Julie and me and then okay, because we were then circulated to everybody and we'd also post it for our next meeting basically that's kind of you know the materials have to be publicly available at all. I'm sorry, I'm going to set Freddie up with something and I'll be right, I'll be right back. I guess. Okay, so I will send the draft to I guess I don't know if he completely answer my question because presumably between a time I create the original template and the time we actually posted for the town. The next meeting is we'll we might have some discussion or something or is that not allowed, I don't know, but, but hopefully we could, you all can, you know, add and revise and edit the form before our next meeting right, or at least have a chance to look at it I don't know, see what Matt and Julian say about how it work, it would work. And do you think one optional question at the end would be sufficient, or do they need to be maybe another one, like, I would think one, sorry. No, no, no, no, no, because, yeah, because I think I think almost like as I agree as minimalistic as possible and I do think like this doesn't have to be our only survey ask thing, you know, like I think in the future we could do something where we're more trying to distill like the values of people like what they value about the town or that kind of thing. But I think we could potentially do that through something else like, I think we should prioritize getting like as many responses as possible for this one is what I would think. Okay. Yeah, sounds good. All right. Well again Rachel I can't thank you enough and I think this is really you know this is something that we needed to get stronger in and I'm just so happy that you've taken the lead on helping us because I think the community participation aspect both in terms of our membership. And also in terms of grantees you know that's that really is what we're we're here for that's our job. So thank you. And on that note just because I'm sure folks are wondering we, we were supposed to have some interviews this week, but June schedules are already starting to get a little crazy so it sounds like we're going to have interviews at the end of the month for for additional slots so if anybody is wondering, we will definitely keep you posted as as that gets closer to reality. So how many. People are applying in our interest. I don't, I haven't. That stuff comes to us pretty, pretty late in the process I haven't seen any lists actually like we, you know really they set up the interviews and then we usually get the, the CAF forms, like a day or two in advance just because they're, you know there's a lot of back and Paul and Angela and the perspective people. Some people filled out this form, you know, two years ago and they're like, why you call you know why you don't call me so so they have to kind of weed through find find folks who are interested. So, I know they're working on it they're also a little short staffed in in town hall, you know, no surprise. So, okay so I want to move on to the other business I just wanted before I forget I want to mention to all of you. If you go to any events yourself, yourselves. And you know how there's always advertising somewhere on at the venue it's like you know sponsors of whatever sign and then they'll have all the sponsors and whatever. Right, posted. And if you, if we all could just maybe look to see whether somewhere on that public advertisingizing board or whatever signage. There's somewhere there's a QR code that that would actually lead people to a very short survey about that event itself. I'm not going to find out about this and you know like three question thing. I'm not saying that that is exists already but I'm just curious whether a mechanism has been put in that place and I will ask the question to is Jay our contact right MCC to see if there's something like that is everything you know every time somebody every time an event is happening. There is that mechanism for people to respond through through some kind of questionnaire and which would help MCC collect data as well. So, so if you. That doesn't happen. Are you asking if MCC does not have that. Okay. All right well maybe that's interesting. Okay. I will ask them, have they, you know, what they want to do that or not because I think I've been going to events where at the end, there's always like please fill out a response to this right and I'm sure you've seen that too. So, that's, that's a broader. Well, I'm not sure where we could certainly create a QR code with the link to the survey you're talking about and yeah that's for our that's for our survey but I'm talking about kind of at the other end once whatever programs have happened. We have like a response thing so it's, it's not directly related to our survey and just. I was just curious whether you've noticed something like that where it's used as a as a way to collect information about participation. Anyway, so that's, that's a tangent. Okay, I'm done. All right. Okay, thank you. Yeah, and again thank you very much for this work it really is super super important. I think are more. Well, I don't know. So, so fall block party planning. I just pulled, I just opened speaking of surveys the survey a minute ago and we've had eight folks respond that they're interested in performing at the fall block party. Two of those eight indicated like a smaller booth type setup which remember that was the thing Gabrielle needed to figure out how they would pull that off. So about 21 indicate interest in the spring block party. That was with two or three email queries so I will send out another email query tomorrow, but I do think we need to. Well, actually, you don't have to close it anytime super soon but but you know at some point we'll have to close it and say this is the list of interested parties and turn that over to the bid and let them, you know, run with it but I just wanted to give you that update that we have eight responses I sent out to the survey I think the day after our last meeting or maybe a couple days after our last meeting so it's out there in the ether, and I guess I would just say if you, if you interact with any grantees. Please, you know, please promote it remind them about that this is happening. I haven't like put a press release out yet on this. And, you know, I'd like to, but I want to I think I think the goal would be for the fall block parties press release to include this and they're trying to they just got all their summer music stuff out like this week. So my guess is they're going to start turning their attention towards promoting the fall, you know, in a couple weeks is probably my best guess. So and then Eleanor and Cody and Leah. I don't want to ask this question but I have to ask, are you are you with us until what September. I don't know, I think it might be really hard to be doing college and also. Oh yeah, oh I know I know. I want to I want to come back for the fall block party though, and the spring I feel like I'll come back for that. And I can work a table. But I'm also I'm reaching out to a bunch of like teachers like music teachers art teachers history teachers. In hopes that kind of like the same thing that happened to me will happen. But I'm also doing a little bit. I'm like writing kind of like, like what the council like kind of looks like in hopes that like, like if someone is like, oh yeah I do basketball and it's October through January every day, then they'll be like, maybe this wouldn't be a good role like I'm expanding a little bit Okay, yeah that's great I really we really appreciate that. But so I think I'll just Eleanor and Cody and our have volunteered to sort of help Gabrielle get get stuff together because I, I mean your name came up at our last meeting but I don't think she's going to be a part of that part of that crew. So. Okay, I would love to like if there's like a table. I'll sit at it. I think if you come back for the fall block party, you should walk the street with your friends and enjoy it and come say hello to you are free you'll be free of us for you know to our to our great. But anyway, so I think, you know, I'll send out one more, or I'll send out a nudge this week to our to our grantees, and then Eleanor I'll reach out. And then Cody about maybe we get a zoom session with Gabrielle just, it helps for momentum just sort of to, you know, connect and suss things out talk it through a little bit. Yeah, perfect sounds good. So, how many agencies are we looking at. Yeah, okay. So, go ahead, what. So, we have, yeah, we have Tobi's, and then Robbins and then Leah in September and I think we're right now we're sort of actively pursuing those the tune, like immediate ones but obviously we've let Paul and Angela know that that will have a third as well. But I think I think realistically speaking we'll probably go into the fall with with a vacancy. My goal would be to get you know the council fall for the grant cycle, you know that's, that's always the goal. But if it doesn't happen it's okay you know we can get five. Anyway, looking at, and then I will just say this publicly in case you know in case anybody we don't need attendees but you know in case anybody watches the meeting or, or if you're talking to folks, the CAF the citizen application for I shouldn't say there's a CA if you Google CAF Amherst, the first thing that comes up. It's the council application form, and it is a community sorry community application form. And it literally is a one click, and you're in your in the pool. So please if you know of anybody who's interested we are recruiting. The last substantive thing because I don't have any grants updates so far that's been quiet and smooth. The last thing of substance is Juneteenth and that's that's just a super exciting event and even if you won't be able to volunteer if you happen to be in town or adjacent to town at all. It's definitely worth it to zip over and check out Juneteenth on the common. It starts at noon and really gets going. I'd say probably two or three. It's a wonderful event and I did get an email from Jen today yesterday asking what we needed in terms of table. So we'll have a table and a tent and two chairs set up. And then I will print. I will print just some copies of our website frankly just you know to give folks a feel of what we do. So many hands to put in people's hands, and I don't want to make any promises because she's not here but Julianne was going to do a little bit of background research on potentially getting some swag printed up we have a really great logo. And it just dawned on me the other day like, why is our logo not plastered all I would totally wear like clothes with our logo so it's a really nicely done thing. She's working on it. I don't know if it's going to be I doubt it'll be ready for Juneteenth but I but that's one hope is you know, let's let's increase public visibility that way. Yeah, I didn't suggest that and how to get the word out. And then I thought, no, but maybe aren't the way but maybe they are. We are a stylish bunch. And I think we're friends. And if people see us wearing this gear, they will be more inclined to join. You can use discretionary funds. discretionary funds yeah. That's that's the heart of administrative stuff right. I will go ahead please yeah. I was just saying that will add to the survey that you can win a free t shirt. Yeah, answering this survey. Oh that's a great idea I know I was I was actually wondering about a giveaway yeah. I did ask Jen to confirm which, because you know our additional funds are the thing that allowed her to book her headliner, who is divinity rocks. So that's that's not the same. Yeah, it starts early. Yeah, and I don't know, and probably doesn't we don't need to know how we know how much that what was but the 2500 that we pitched in from festivals and projects certainly helps there. And then I will share this that I'm sort of this this festivals and projects grant the timing of it was really funky I don't know if you all remember but like, we submitted the application. And then we didn't find out about the awards until April it was like it was like nine months before we found out about the awards and then the actual contract came to us very like we had six weeks before before the money had to be spent that we actually got the contract. And so this year, really having you know having been through all that stuff I wasn't paying close attention to the dates, and the due date for the festivals and projects came last week. There was a last minute reminder that said this thing is open right now. I went to with Julianne and in the town and you know I just went ahead and I put in for Juneteenth again. And my thinking there was that I would obviously I would have preferred to have had a cultural council discussion about it it just totally slipped right past me. And so my thinking was that, you know, if we as a council feel differently if there's energy moving towards the spring block party we really need those funds to be applied there. We can always amend that grant we learned that this year that it can be amended. But I just felt like Juneteenth it you know it hits so many of our core priorities and it is truly a town sponsored event. And I just I didn't want them I just didn't want the money to go, you know, untaken so I just went for it and figured you know apologize later kind of a thing and if we want to, if we want to, you know, discuss further. As soon as we find out if we got the award then certainly we can and we can amend if, if folks feel a strong way about it. Thank you. Yeah, you're welcome. And that, that's really all we had on the agenda for for tonight. I'm going to. Yeah, which day we talking about Saturday, not Monday, or which I'm at Monday. Monday, so which I'm at Saturday right for Juneteenth. Yeah, the official, no, the hang on the official. Yes, no, yes, no. The official Juneteenth event. Yes, it's Saturday. Okay, and so the town or Jennifer or Angela whoever's going to make sure that you'll set up one thing I can't do is really set up stuff. Wherever it's going to be and then I'll just bring over if we have materials someone will bring that or I'll be there. Yep, I'll be there I'll probably have, you know, little ones. Yeah, that's fine with me. No, that would be great. So it starts at noon so be there, like 11 or 10. So the gents email says the tables will be set up by 10 and it's first come first choice of spots as people arrive at different times. I don't I don't really have no idea how many tables are going to have or anything. I, yeah, I think not a very big place. I'll buzz over, I'll buzz over at 10 with the materials I have to. I have a, this is more information than anybody needed to know I have a preschool gymnastics class at 1130. So I can be there from 10 to 1130 I'll go down and get that set up, and then I'll be back up for the headliner and and all that so Robin if you if you can cover from 1130 to 1230 that'd be perfect. Or beyond, but that's the gap in my Right. Okay, it's so cute. Okay, that sounds good. And I think the headliner is going to bring in a lot of people. Yeah, I feel really good that we were able to make that happen. Yeah. I mean, this is such a last minute thing. She had already created a lot of her materials but I asked her to make sure that, you know, we use a, you know, we that she use the cultural council logo, you know, and give attribution. I mean that's that's that's actually a requirement for the mass cultural council attribution. So I'll make sure we'll make sure that happens. Okay. All right well if there's no further business I hope everybody can. Oh, shout. Personally, I kind of like just having a regular monthly meeting it even if it's quick, especially with the survey question emerging, but shall we just cancel the July, the July meeting just given folks are going to be tied up. I'll second that motion. Okay, why don't we take July off and then we'll plan to reconvene second Tuesday in August. Sounds good. Okay. All right, well thank you all so very much. Thank you. Thanks. Take care. So is Julian.