 Hey mate 40 here, so I'm only live streaming tonight instead of kicking back watching the football with the sound off listening to Michael Wolfe's biography of Rupert Murdoch on audible and enjoy some high-quality football But I'm ticked off because I was trying to help somebody out today And I did what he asked but much of what he asked me to do he doesn't Recollect correctly, and it's just so frustrating like I I followed directions. I was trying to help some dude out and It did not go well Bloody hell so So I wanted to come online and I just want to yell at somebody And you notice a lot of live streamers, right? They they they seem to get a great deal of power they get to you know vent a lot of Prostrations in their life by just yelling at somebody and Chris Kavanaugh made this point rather profoundly on Decoding the gurus We're gonna do like some of the streamers destiny has an Abbey these type of people because it's an interesting Ecosystem, and it's an ecosystem which is right for parasocial Nebulations and and egomaniacs running wild so it's a good location for secular gurus But yeah, the result is that I ended up watching these the cult drama channels Like they're basically like they're YouTube channels which exist to talk about YouTube drama like between creators this kind of thing Not the worst of them not like not like the ones that are completely like what's the equivalent in the old media like What do you call on TV or that channel is just all about celebrities like what are you wearing on the red carpet and you know? ETB or something like that. Yeah, like Paris Hilton Or something cool Yeah, so there's like YouTube channels like that the channels that I saw are not that bad But they're kind of like here is some bad creator look at all the bad things. He does look kind of familiar. It's always by them Yeah, so I was just watching videos of that Matt and it just those egosystems those personalities They're they're egomaniacs and the way that they're interacting with their audience like you know Sit on the stream and they're kind of drinking the coffee or whatever But then they when somebody says something they don't like it depends on the creator But they get like what you're fucking idiot You just you know you stupid and they're just you know forever and getting all animated And that's part of the appeal but like obviously the other person is generally not there, right? They're just like a disembodied. Yeah, so it's just it's like a really one-sided It's like a guru telling his followers off or daring to you know, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's interesting It's like whatever in a little text or a comment and then like it's like this It would be like you know, what's next? Hey, what if you mooncat? What the fuck shut up, Mike? Like you're an idiot. You just want to genocide the world you stupid It's like that and then but obviously they have you know huge chat So just like a kind of interacting with a wall of text, but it I as I mentioned to you I previously saw a Stefan Mullin use and Interactions with his audience and it was very similar very very similar dynamic He would do call-in shows where people would call him in and ask for advice and the students They said something he didn't like he'd be like, yeah, that's why you're in this situation This is why you know blah blah blah and then yeah But people only abuse you really to the extent that you sign off on it, right? You generally sign off when other people lie to you and abuse you because you've given out that energy that you can be abused That you can be taken advantage of that you you don't want to be deceived so that you can live in your delusions Not 100% I'm just saying that we play a significant role in how other people interact with us So I got taken for hundreds even thousands of dollars of scams when I was trying to make my way in Hollywood Checking out the acting world in 1994 95 because those people met my needs to feel like I could be a star Yes, these are my real teeth. I've never had braces that never had fake teeth These are just my my real fair dinkum teeth But I wear this retainer that brings my lower jaw forward But in the process it is widened the teeth. It am I lower my lower mandible? I think that's cool. So I have have gaps now in my lower teeth But I keep wearing this retainer at night because it brings the lower jaw forward And that's supposed to help open up the nasal passages or stuff like that But yeah, I get you know more likely to get teeth stuck in and the the bottom row is not as Clean and straight and compact as it was before I started in with this particular retainer That just brings my my lower jaw forward, but I identify with this right I I had one girlfriend who I yelled at it to the best of my knowledge is only ever been one girlfriend who I yelled at But there's something about the dynamic of our relationship that kind of led me to yell at her I'm not proud of that. I'm embarrassed about it, but I would yell at her when we were driving down the freeway, but She played a role in that and I played a big role in that and if people yell at you abuse you and lie to you On a regular basis. There's probably something that you're doing it Like it's a very dangerous thing to help somebody All right, because the need to be rescued and the need to rescue usually come out of the same sick place Now there's healthy helping of people and there's unhealthy Right, I remember I ran into this Holocaust survivor on a walk and he talked to me about how lonely it was and how You know it just make his life if I would come visit him in the evening So started to come visit him in the evenings All he wanted to do was to be left alone to watch Fox news, right? He wanted no interactions I visited him one two three evenings and he made it clear. He was not interested in my company. So People are complicated some people will you know, call you up and tell you about their suicidal ideation They will cry cry cry a river to you on the phone if you allow that I don't think generally speaking It's a healthy thing to subsidize that's that sort of behavior And this can happen with the live stream is so you can develop a relationship with a live stream Or where they yell at you and really that's that's In part on on you. It just feels really it just it's very Like traditional guru dynamics, you know, like hopefully does it actually help bringing my lower jaw forward to open up my nasal passages So I sleep better. I'm not sure I'm not sure but I do remember when I used to do a lot of live streams with Dennis Dale He's the only person so the best of my knowledge That I frequently yelled at so that they had to have been something about the dynamic between Dennis Dale and myself That I would speak to him in a more harsh tone Then I would I think more than any other regular on my show. So there's something about that relationship that long long long Dead relationship with Dennis Dale that often brought out, you know, really not nice part of myself Yeah, Dennis would have a reflex of saying I'm sorry and I think the more Dennis said I'm sorry The more I yelled at him and then the first time Ricardo caught in it was to say Dennis You got to stop saying I'm sorry because and Dennis Ricardo didn't say this but if you keep saying I'm sorry and if you keep like taking Unnecessary blame on yourself then people will just keep blaming you and yell at you, right? So on the one hand, it sounds like a great thing to do is like take responsibility. Oh, that's all my fault I'm sorry. That's totally my fault But you can go too far with that you can abuse that you can you know go You know to to an extreme with that and it becomes an unhealthy Relationship dynamic that you're assembling with people so that they just feel, you know Totally free to blame you for all sorts of things that are fully your fault and decide yelling at you and disparaging you and you played a role I play a role in many people treating me with disrespect because I am maladaptively vulnerable I'd like way too vulnerable. I I think I've become too vulnerable to I Don't know get out of you know complicated or demanding situations to create drama to try to create You know undo intimacy and intensity in my relations Just trying to you know make a shortcut to have good relations with people to wear my heart on the sleeve and in the process I have just way too vulnerable and then people Frequently treat me with disgust or just disrespect and I am inviting that all right I've got this habit of being overly vulnerable and then I don't like the results of that leadership Yeah, like you single people out for bastardization, right? Yeah, it is like a very old-fashioned Social control technique where if there's a big group of people you the big boss person will pick someone out and yeah bastardize them essentially and everyone else kind of observes and kind of Gets a bit of a thrill from from right if people are picking you out to yell at There's a good chance that you played a significant role when I have told my friends how various employers or Employers at the time were treating me most of my friends who are high functioning said I would not put out with that for 30 seconds But I put out the vibe that I could be abused because I was used to that because I was bounced off the walls growing up You know I smacked around I was used to to being abused so even into my 50s I Being abused by people in authority felt normal natural felt like I was at home When someone was berating me deriding me cutting me down for no good purpose They're just treating me terribly that felt like our home, right? We learn certain patterns certain habits certain things that feel comfortable to us And I learned in my childhood that being abused being smacked around verbally and physically that felt like home to me I Remember I used to do what one of these podcast shows 20 years ago my co-host James the Georgia said you'd make a good you'd make it you'd be a battered husband you'd just be a classic battered husband and all you do is would be whine and complain about it and Various pornographers who specialize in say no masochism But we're able to very quickly point out that I had a fetish for being you know verbally hurt I had a fetish for basically encouraging people to treat me with disrespect and Consciously no, you know, I hate being treated with disrespect I hate being hurt But I would consistently act and invite that sort of behavior not being the one being Yeah, Scott Adams did it right we heard it Scott Adams doing that in some of his content But but the thing is lots of these people are doing that in there and their politics are all over the map like Hasan Abby is like a leftist right and the the so it's this is actually useful for us because we could send You know, it would be good to look at people from the left side of the spectrum and problem is most of the IDW types They almost all identify a centrists or left-leaning people, but like they're not they're not really right But there are left-leaning people doing the power social exploitative stuff But I think a lot of them hang out on YouTube and Twitch. So yeah, we might find them there So yeah, anyway, the more I hear about this internet thinker, so let's not care for it You know that thing that went viral a while back where you have the Tik Tokers or whatever This is why they're they're kind of doing reactions when people pay like money. They're saying yum-yum like ice cream or whatever, right? But what somebody pointed out is like if you don't watch the stream quite for a large part of that stream They're doing the like just waiting on a reason like they're because they're not being paid money all the time Right, so they a lot of it They just have like a you know, like MPC resting fears movements, which they're just doing it's fucking right. You can throw it down super chats I'm rumble right now. I'm on rumble backslash Luke Ford and They're gonna super chat. I'll say yum-yum Yum yum yum Until they get a reaction then they you know It's like somebody putting them on the end of the machine and yeah, but you're like, but you're not a MPC You're a human being What's happening? So it's weird isn't it? It's like pure objectification, right? Like there isn't necessarily a Sexual component because people usually use that with a relation to that But I think the key I think it is like that it is abstracted away to such a weird degree that you know It's what it's what it's tickling But it's it's clearly objectification, right? The person is acting like a robot like an anime character and they're responding just like if you press a button You put the coin in the slot. That's just so odd Right so the the chat says, you know, I whack off. This is a woman saying I whack off to the idea of my boyfriend cheating on me In real life. I would never you know in real life get get off on that. So yeah, we all have a dark side and I was just talking to a sponsor about this a few minutes ago All that our self-destructive Adaptive behaviors like me being overly vulnerable. That's meeting a real need, right? The reason that we are maladaptively Doing things is because we are not meeting our needs through our regular life So why am I going around making myself like way too vulnerable for my own good? Because in all likelihood, I'm not meeting sufficiently my needs for intimacy Intense connection with other people through healthy ways. So I'm using unhealthy ways to try to meet those needs I mean Other blokes are not getting their intimacy needs and their needs for like intense closeness with people So they're you know going to glory holes or bath houses or you know, hiring Procedures or looking at pornography or getting high or doing drugs, right? So we have legitimate needs if we don't meet our needs Legitimately in healthy ways like through our say to us a recovery program up through our religion Throughout through our yoga through our spiritual practices, right? We're gonna meet them in a sick way. So I have a need for drama and so I Think I make myself unnecessarily vulnerable. I try to create inappropriately intense relationships in many contexts I like to you know, play play a lot of games with Some some people in my life because I like to feed my my need for For drama, but there are healthy ways to feed my need for drama such as by doing these informative provocative Thralling entertaining live streams. That's like a healthier way for me to meet my need for drama I have a great need for freedom. And so I have consistently self-sabotage relationships Work situations commuter commuter all situations so that I could feel free because all human Interactions are gonna get messy like all human interactions are gonna touch on parts of you that feel awkward And that you don't want to be reminded that you have these vulnerabilities And so I have consistently in the course of my life Now I wanted to just drop, you know flames and petrol and gasoline and Cigarettes and lighters and just blow things up so that I could feel free again because I was feeling hemmed in captured You know parts of me were feeling very awkward because of some you know ongoing interaction I have such as a job or friendship or a communal relationship. So instead I can healthfully create that feeling of freedom by saving money by overcoming my various emotional addictions by setting aside time for myself and for doing what I want Getting clear about what's important to me and pursuing those goals Okay, so yeah, if we if we don't meet our needs through healthy ways We're gonna meet them through very sick, you know maladaptive ways But when we find out we were stuck in some in a self-destructive pattern We have to ask like what legitimate what real needs is this meeting? How is this seemingly self-destructive maladaptive trait character trait behavior habit pattern? How is that serving me then? How is it hurting me? How would I benefit from being in the opposite of it like hipster sing be in London before like it had kind of emerged from What it is? So it's Charlie Brooker like Yeah, a guy being with like, you know, basically vice and magazines like that and Just noticing how it likes a professional student It's very good What's it? Nathan Barley Yeah Yeah, it's very good. If you like our place and stuff, you'll like that. Oh, yeah. Yeah, look see Brian is right Um, it is true and I was gonna put this out like oh, yeah Look, I'll give you a few of your comedy that helps you I'm not like basal quality and stuff. They you know, they are in the lineage of that, right? I'm a bit more of a commentary but the whole point is kind of even dad's army and stuff like that in You know the kind of what's I push the push the wrong link There we go Well, Mark Lincoln is making a good point that like, you know, you have the people in the street performers Right who are dressed up like statues and move around when you Yeah, but there's some people don't think there's anything creepy about the street performers acting like that Yeah, there's there's something about that words, I guess I guess this is it. Unfortunately, you're right Mark That that is probably right. I have a need to perform right if I don't perform on YouTube, right? I might perform in some very inappropriate places in inappropriate ways with inappropriate audiences with inappropriate levels of audience Interaction with my performances to the analogy that this is just the online version of that But it's just so weird. Um, what do I use to groom my beard so precisely? okay, and I Was up I went to bed at seven and I got up at 3 37 a.m. This morning I'm not sure I got this queued up, right? I sure hope this is correctly Hold on because I've listened to that and I think he knows Arabic or he knows, you know, he definitely knows Arabic speakers But he said ah, yeah, this is this is this is good. This is really good from decoding the gurus Chris Kavanaugh Matt Brown interview with bags or us the Norwegian comedian for his podcast I don't think it's I get like definitely talked about this with him But and I told you about And it will come up if we do the Sam Harris episode that Sam was talking about people may or may not have heard this recording of a Hamas terrorist calling his family back in Gaza and kind of probably People that he's killed and and the transcript of the conversation Like one, it's very clear that the Hamas guy is very proud of killing this really civilians He's telling people look on the phone. You can see the 10 Jewish people. I killed with my own hands I killed them, you know, this is great And but the read the additional layer that was added on to that analysis is that the parents and the family Seem happy and they're not responding in horror, right? So this is more horrific because it's something describing doing horrific actions But their family are not reacting in horror and and this is a potential concern because it would speak to like All right So most people they're thinking just goes down certain tracks They get certain stimuli and then they just you know inevitably go down a certain track They don't really take the time to consider what's what's really going on They just sees what's immediately appealing and feeds their needs the level of like The general community but yeah when Sam rears this so if you look at the transcript There are very things where the parents say things like, you know Priests be dollar or something like this right and Graham would the journalist who has more specialism in this said whenever Sam Rears this topic with him said actually Hold on because so Graham would wrote a profile of Richard Spencer. He kind of specializes in jihadi terrorism He's a thoughtful thoughtful journalist, right to the Atlantic I've listened to that and I think he knows Arabic or he knows, you know, he definitely knows Arabic speakers But he said I actually think that that you're misinterpreting that because if you listen they are using stock freezes that you hear You know the same way someone might say Jesus Christ or oh my god Right, but they're not invoking Priests be to the most high Jesus Christ I say it but it's because of the you know, Islamic culture just there's lots of stock freezes that reference Whatever the case might be and then Graham which says to me it sounds like they're reacting out of disbelief and Chuck and they're kind of saying What are you talking about? Like, you know, where are you what's going on? Oh and like instead of it being Priests be the allies like You know, like Jesus Christ. What what are you talking? You know and the mom is crying at once the age and like Sam presented that as like tears of joy It doesn't sound like that in that but in any case, I don't know So when I saw the transcript online, I had the same reaction of Sam like initially where I was like, oh, this looks Concerning right that there isn't the odd reads But then when I heard somebody who knows a bit about the topic and I might understand the language better reads that actually it's a misinterpretation I thought oh, I don't know I shouldn't pass judgment and that is possible But Sam in the next episode that he released and does a long segment With the same interpretation that he initially had of the call and at the very end he says a Graham wood has an alternative But I'm not so sure about that for something and it moves on and it's like wow like yeah It just speaks to his thinking being on rails and you know, we're dunking on sand But there's like a general principle to be absorbed here, right, which is that when you've got too strong And you could call it either logical or you could call it theoretical But you got too strong a mental framework that you wanted to filter all the information through then what would you clearly do is you just ignore The disconfirming evidence that doesn't fit and you and you persist with a model as if all the evidence is coming in It's fitting your model perfectly and that makes you unable to to learn new things basically and it becomes kind of boring Yeah, because one thing that Yuval Was emphasizing that conversation was like, you know, there's religious extremists on the Israeli side Right the ones who are promoting the West Bank settlement and actually a lot of Netanyahu's government, right? Like he was appealing to the far right of Israeli politics and the ones that and are at least support I think that phrase thinking on rails since I heard it this morning. It just hasn't left my head I think it's a really useful way of understanding some very common human tendencies did by religious demagogues and But the way Sam had freeze that was, you know, the kind of one side has the religious fanatics and the other side Just an ideal Yeah, but so the position though was just it's just more reasonable to I'm not saying that therefore it's completely equivalent, right? but it's more like and Comment in the chat from Hasidic belt Daphine these guys Heading the gurus are the worst. I don't know why Luke likes these insufferable morons so boring, right? That they're not as exciting as a Nick Fuentes or Richard Spencer and Ethan Ralph Frequently the truth Frequently profound truth is not immediately exciting. It's not a thrill But I think that what they have to say is incredibly important here It's complex and there are religious extremists on both sides and there are moderating forces on both sides and like that Yeah So basically the black and white like it's just jihadism That's the only ideology that we really haven't an issue with and you know, again You've always the point that like plenty of people in the 20th century seem to do a lot of extreme activities for secular Ideologies that didn't posit an eternal afterlife, right? The millions of people died in the furlough ends of those objectives So it's not that that isn't an ideology martyrdom and so on that is a problem But it is that it's not the only potential driver for like conflicts and you know, you're creating Russia It's not relying on no fundamentalist thing. I mean, unless you try to Yeah, this is what a shoehorn nationalism into that. Yeah. No, that's right I mean realities, you know messy and complicated and that's deeply unsatisfying. I think to everybody, right? It'd be really nice. It's really nice. I have a nice simple set of heuristics and I simple like mental key that explains every problem like wouldn't be great if you know Everyone that we covered Chris, they're all bloody grifters. That's what it is. They're all grifting, right? They're all grifters, right bang You know, if you want to you know, if you wanted to you could you pay attention to particular bits of evidence And that could be the key that explains everything that's happening in this fear, but unfortunately not it's a bit more complicated Yes, it's an element. It's just one of many some of it hangs together comfortably other things just don't really fit So yeah, even even in the case of narcissism, which we often emphasize Yeah, like that you you could completely Exercise that and focus on some other element like like for example the flows of money and ecosystems and I That wouldn't be wrong, right? It would be giving you a partial perspective and the same thing would apply if you completely ignore the financial incentives that are in play and the network dynamics So like it's yeah, I see that as well Actually, sorry, we're now we keep elaborating on this point But you see a crop up in so many different ways like I got a lot of friends online who fall into that kind of you know Liberal free speech forever attitude, right? Yeah, so they see, you know, you know free speech as this is fundamental You know principle that is that is so important. Okay. I enjoyed that little burst there from decoding the gurus Also listening to the Doran making the point that that we had a way out of this Ukraine crisis We didn't have to get into this mess once we were into the mess There was basically an agreement reached between Zelensky and Putin But the Biden administration and the Boris Johnson administration in Britain said to Zelensky No way you've got to get all your territory back You can't compromise at all even though we could have ended this war, you know shortly after it began And so a lot of politicians like Joe Biden and the head of NATO, right? They have their egos on the line They think it will be good for their reputation, right for their career prospects to keep this bloody slaughter going on in Ukraine This is from the Doran podcast to read Kiev, which as we now know is a complete fiction I mean, we discussed that before the Russians was drew as part of the diplomatic deal Which the West sabotage they talk about Harkov and her son region of Harkov offensives Being reversed and the health zone offensive is at a standstill and the losses Ukraine suffered as a result of those were horrendous But the realities today on the battlefronts anyway are completely different with Stoltenberg You won't talk about that Annalena Bebov won't talk about that what she's doing instead is warning people about not being fatalistic about Ukraine They want let's get one Still supporting Ukraine giving Ukraine everything so that you can continue the war until it is finally destroyed I mean the Russians say, you know that it's until the last Ukrainian and that's what it's beginning to look like Yeah, it's almost like they want to I guess it's like destroying the scene of the crime I guess, you know, they just I think Stoltenberg, von der Leyen, Annalena, Zelensky, Yermak, all these people They're so up to up to their neck and so much just just crap, you know, just nasty crap that they just they decided Let's just destroy the whole thing and Russia did it Blame it all on Putin blame it all on the Russians when Ukraine is destroyed all this You know hundreds of thousands of people have been killed. It's all Putin's fault And because it's all Putin's fault, we must take even more steps to insulate and protect and defend Europe from And clamp down even more on anybody in Europe who says otherwise So that that is the agenda now Yeah, let me just just wrap up the video Let me read you a quote and I want your thoughts your human psychology right input So much of the drive for suppressing speech online and accusing anyone who differs from the you know ruling regime with regard to incentivizing and Subsidizing Ukraine's war with Russia is oh, you know, we need to restrict speech so that we don't give soccer to our enemies So we we create this horrific situation in Ukraine and then try to restrict speech so that Those who are subsidizing and directing this horrific situation in Ukraine They get more protection from being criticized on this just so we understand how these people think and this has to do with Brexit, but I think you'll be I think you'll be able to relate this to you great So Ursula von der Leyen she gave an interview or made some comments about Brexit and how the UK is is now Looking to move back into the European Union. That's their trajectory of things and she said she said this I keep telling my children and she's talking about Brexit. I keep telling my children. You have to fix it We goofed up you have to fix it So I think here too the direction of travel my personal opinion is clear I just read that quote we goofed up and I just think you know, this is the way these people think This is how they can explain everything when when it all collapses just gonna be like, you know What are your thoughts on that just the psychology of these these globalists in these in these institutions is It just sickens you but anyway, that's that's how you see the world That is exactly what they're gonna do. You know that we acted out of good faith It was a mister. We made it be made mistakes as we did with Iraq That's we did with Libya, but we acted with the best of intentions all along and if everything in the end turned out bad Well, it was not our fault. It was because there wasn't enough Will and determination people didn't give as much money as they should have done They didn't give us much weapons as they should have done they could have given more never explained how that could have happened And of course in the end in this particular crisis, it's absolutely not our fault It's the fault of the horrible man in the Kremlin and these terrible people around here Putin and his accomplices They are the people who ruined our beautiful dream and you know The only responsibility you take is that you made certain mistakes you goofed you goofed up You still want all those hundreds of thousands of students and women to go to the battlefronts That's but that's only a mistake if they had died It's only a mistake on your part if they if they died I mean, it's good that we make these programs now because when those excuses are made Right this war would not have happened if Donald Trump had been in the White House I don't think there would have been a massive Hamas attack on Israel and therefore an Israeli invasion of Gaza if Donald Trump had been in the White House and we've been unnecessarily provocative with China over Taiwan We could get into an absolute mess there as well. This is the the most seemingly competent but really the most incompetent foreign policy administration that the United States has had in 70 plus years We have programs like this as a public record of what it was really of what it really all amounted to Before we finish just wanted to say I noticed that in Britain and I mentioned it on my program of my own general yesterday They're now resurrecting the story that it was actually Putin who turned down the prospects of peace last year There was this mysterious deal that nobody knows anything about that was negotiated with Cossack You know Cossack Putin's official that he did some kind of a deal with the Ukrainians and that Putin rejected it There is absolutely just to say again There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever for that story, but it again tells you the deed down The British know full well what they actually did in March and April of last year when they Knocked away the chance Ukraine had to agree to a piece We've seen the same comments now being made by out of storage out of store which is confirmed has confirmed that as well The Ukraine had a good peace deal then and it was all thrown away and he said very good very favorable peace deal He says you actually said the Russians made a lot of concessions Exactly so very very good piece there was made last year the British played an instrumental role in throwing it away But that they're starting to get nervous that people are starting to start pointing the fingers at them So they're now falling back again on this fictitious story about this other deal that was supposed Why do I make about all the assassination talk with regard to Donald Trump? Well, I think the Atlantic didn't they just have something like 40 different intellectuals right essays and why it'd be a disaster to have Donald Trump as the next president of the United States. So Yeah, there's There there are all these incentives being laid just like there were incentives laid for the massive increase in violent crime We've had since George Floyd. We have all these incentives laid For an assassination of Donald Trump. I Think you know that that ground is is being prepared Okay, let's get a little bit of a lighter note. This is Tim Heidecker on Joe Rogan. Look at the Joe Rogan clip The because again stop if Joe Rogan if you want to be an expert on this Stop doing your silly show With your fud rockers background. I'm a baddy fat fat though Here's Joe for young boys in particular There's an adverse risk associated with the vaccine. It's yes two to four fold increase in the Instances of myocarditis. Yes, but you know what the hospitalization You know that there's an increased risk of myocarditis and among that age cohort from getting COVID as well Which exceeds the risk of myocarditis from the vaccine. I don't think that's true I don't think he doesn't think it's true Who are you myocarditis from people catching COVID that are young versus Increased risk of myocarditis from the back Listen to this Joe Rogan say myocarditis What I don't even know that is Why should I I? Just go to the doctor and the doctor tells me what to do right and Hopefully it all works out for the best right there is this but let's look that up because I don't think that's Where are you look at it up in the New England Journal and that is it was this with children in Grey's Anatomy what? Some fucking way They go down this right. They're lost. They're just lost with children because there's so much information Well, no, we don't know there's so much information and support Joe Rogan. His brains Just melting with all this information. He can't dissect it. He doesn't know what he's talking about Joe if you want to be an Expert on this subject stop doing your daily dumb show where you talk to fucking whoever some Dick comedian who's you know talking about whatever Yeah, give me a something there. Who's you talking to Ted Nugent Ted Nugent about hunting And goggles and everything eating meat stop your show go enroll at Austin University's medical Fucking's University, right and Yeah, good good question in the chat from Elliot black Why did certain countries like Sweden and Denmark and I believe the state of Queensland in Australia? Ben the Madonna Vox Vax citing myocarditis because there were studies revealing that there was a chance of some kind of myocarditis Reaction among a tiny tiny number of people to the vaccine What these countries did not take into adequate account is that the risks of myocarditis much much higher for people who catch COVID? So people see a risk with doing a certain procedure and they go, oh We should we should not have that procedure done what they frequently don't consider is What's the risk if you don't do the procedure or you don't take the vaccine or if you don't engage in that activity? Yeah, everything comes with a risk what needs to make prudent choices on what type of risk you want to take this is Tim Heidegger on Bill Maher What's what what is the part of it that that bums you out the most the part that gets me is Seeing a casual Bill Maher where yeah, he's got the the t-shirt Yeah underneath the button-down shirt, you know very close to the Steve Busce me, you know Hey kids. Yeah, exactly like he's And then that sad table with it just packed to the gills Everything's ready to follow fall over. That's all and it's also just like clinking. Yeah He's like reaches over. So he's like a real compulsion to like light things and He'll be talking to you Well, he'll what he'll do is he'll ask a question. Mm-hmm. Let me do it here Yeah, so so what have you been up to this summer? Well, you know really been It's immediate, yeah, like you should do it while he's talking. Yeah, you do it when you're exactly So the little things like that are amazing and then just his his general point of view is just turned into grumpy man Get off my lawn. Yeah, and his Unnit, he's not interested in what the other person has to say. Oh, he's combative. He's he's fighting He's he's he's closed shop. Yeah, everything. I've come up with is the answer Yes, the new rule has been no room stone. No room for anything else and I'm going to be weirdly petulant about it that you might dare to not see it the way I see it Yeah And then the guests don't seem to know that like none of the guests have watched the show They might now they start have maybe caught up But yeah in the first bunch you could feel that that they were not expecting to be sabotaged like where they're just like houndstown They're like wait, this is what this is. Yeah HBO thing like they're checking the address. They're driving. Yeah, they do Bill Mar show. Yeah, and then suddenly I'm going to CBS television city or I could you they'll be like in the hills to be just like Two tenths of a mile before I'm here. Where am I going? That has to be wrong Okay, some interesting comments in the chat Here we go Hasidic bell Daffy now I'm watch as Luke Ford anymore because he hates his viewers and things that people like Douglas Marry and Murray is shallow. There's a lot of truth to that. I am not you know going to do a show that Just pandas to people's, you know dumb Prejudices I'm not going to do a show where I'm just telling you that, you know You're so great and your favorite right wing intellectuals are just amazing if they're not and I'm not going to say that You know the the deep state is you know responsible for most of the problems in our lives and The elite are trying to destroy Western civilization. I'm not going to give you that that crap You've got hundreds of right wing shows that were just dish out the crap All right, you want to be lied to right you want to go on a live stream so that you can have You know some intellectual masturbation where just you know, or your knee jerk 100 IQ prejudices are reinforced There there are a lot of other shows that are much better for that than than this show right we go deep here Is there really inconclusive evidence that the Vax actually prevented is There really conclusive evidence that the Vax prevented COVID well no one's smart There are no scientific studies to the best of my knowledge of any prestige arguing that the Vax prevents COVID but they argue is that it reduces the severity of COVID and reduces the transmission of COVID and Reduces infection rates with COVID my entire family is Vax max every single one got COVID Yeah, so what I mean This is just reasoning from anecdote either COVID reduce the COVID vaccines reduce the intensity of COVID Reduce death from COVID reduce hospitalization from COVID or it doesn't and so it's just a matter of the studies Yeah, the deep state supports this channel Absolutely vaccines never promise immunity All right vaccine a fat efficacy lasts about eight weeks as the chat Well, there's some efficacy at reducing the severity of COVID and reducing the number of people who Even catch COVID and die from COVID. I think the evidence is pretty clear that vaccines that are approved by United States and other first world governments are overwhelmingly safe and More effective than doing nothing, but I'm not an expert enough on vaccines So I'm not gonna I'm not gonna belabor that that point I just simply don't know enough, but the the durens absolutely right thinking about, you know, how Our leaders for the sake of their own prestige and political prospects have subsidized this war in Ukraine and Wouldn't you know just as I go to play that link the player player crashes a little bit of a Discursion here by Chris Kevin or Matt Brown on their favorite Yeah, a lot of people including a lot of Americans just have absolute contempt for America or for American culture and American comedy And there's a lot of great American TV. There's a lot of great American culture There are a lot of great things about America Just as there are great things about Britain and England and France and Denmark and an Australia and New Zealand and Japan as well But I mean Richard Spencer just has its knee jerk contempt for you know, all things American But America makes them you know pretty good comedy Like Broad and obvious and Yeah, that's a really common critique Particularly among Australians and Europeans that American comedy is just broad and stupid When I was trying to go to Benny Hill give me tingles that is Chris I'm not saying that not me. I was not Um There are plenty of things on children's But you know Apologies he just exists in the culture. He doesn't doesn't judge it. All right, a little bit more from you Talking about diversity and inclusion statements I think I think we should be talking about your actual podcast In fact that you're spreading this academic knowledge to those people who are not in the academy and but you are right that you know On some level there is still just you needing to learn how to write to promote yourself Which is a big part of that again brand writing in general But also it's a part of you know another thing at the same time to do and again So Chris Cavadro and Matt Brown they met up on Twitter because they both it was somewhat heterodox while loathing the intellectual dark web So they're they're basically center left liberals who both tire of liberal left hypocrisy But also have disdain for the low IQ intellectual dark web This is kind of just another hoop to jump around some level is the fact that you're meant to try to look at your past and Align it with like the overall admission state of the university things like that However, it's also important to note that part of your job as a professor Is to do that at the national level when you're writing credits or international But you need to look at the organizations like actual mission statement what you know for like the national state of America that fund research You need to look at you know this year. What are they really trying to hype up? And so on some level needing to go to the school website and look at all those things is selecting for someone who's going to be able to Right so a lot of these tests where there are diversity and inclusion statements They're really just tests are you willing to follow directions are you willing not to be a dick and to get along with people? All right, if you're going to get along with people you're gonna have to go along with a lot of crap All right, not not everyone else is going to see things the way you do. I Think you're right. I think I think it does perform this function I've kind of said this before which is like I think and this isn't really a dig It's more just like a sociological observation that it is like a it is like back in the Victorian era where they would sat there Yeah, people that wanted to become part of the British Civil Service and and get into that that the sort of rungs of power Would get sounded out Did they go to the right clubs and did they have the right opinions and whatever and I'm not that sounds more pejorative than I mean it To be but I think there is some of that right so in a university Like if you want to become a dean or deputy vice chancellor or whatever a lot of it is like our universities of corporations Just like Berkeley, I assume and frankly they are they are primarily concerned with not having scandals not not having people that are going to become a massive problem and Part of it is actually demonstrating that you're not going that you're not a weirdo and you're not gonna like swim against the stream and Right, this is like most jobs the number one reason people get fired as they become seen as a liability They're just weird off putting that they make other people uncomfortable that they're not willing to you know Play nicely with others massive problems and I think I think that's just a that's not a political observation That's just a like a sociological observation and I think I think a lot of those statements can yeah, sorry go ahead Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that the part where everyone can class pounds is over the fact that University system is like pretty cynical and business orientated and like exploitative like, you know post-doctoral labor Right so Businesses employers what you to show that you're willing to play nicely with others, right? You're willing to get along not be too weird and Be willing to submerge your own opinions and your own preferences to play nicely with the group a little bit more from this show Really seems to every time he has a big appearance like on broken or whatever. He has to tear up at some point He's just talking about Jordan Peterson. It's like he's not very well. He's a very he's a very odd man like in so many respects and yeah, it's a Yeah, I think he's got progressively stranger, but he's definitely now If somebody regards him as his role model now and they're still watching what he's doing it kind of like I don't know that there's that much hope But I think this whole kind of like sort of rabbit going down a rabbit hole thing that sounds really like Stupid from the outside, but when you're I sort of realized that as I was kind of so what happened was I lost my job because of COVID lockdowns And I think is people don't really if it's not affected you He don't doesn't sort of Right if your life was, you know severely diminished If you lost your your job, I mean through COVID lockdowns There are all sorts of incentives for why you'd be much more likely to believe in Conspiracy theories. You don't sort of realize how big a thing is so it's kind of that sort of being vulnerable being stuck in this situation And not knowing what's going to happen next makes you more skeptical about Like what's going on who's got your best interests at heart and blah blah blah Um, but I mean I was kind of lucky enough that I got a new job fairly recently fairly quickly after that And so I kind of I've gradually gradually start to move away from this kind of content But I think what the what decoding the gurus is different from the stuff that I would kind of listen to before Was more, you know, like majority of report apart from being like so so focused on American politics is that it's just it just takes piss out people And so and if and if there's one area which you think okay, I maybe I agree with them about, you know American, you know medical insurance or guns or whatever you agree with them but then they say something really exaggerated about like transgenderism or about like I don't know vaccine Forcing people to get vaccines or whatever Then you kind of can't really fully subscribe to it because you feel like they're they're so and especially with the majority report now I can't I can't watch them because They just they don't give people the benefit of the doubt and they're really vitriolic So I think it's really much more useful to really look at what are these people actually saying and what is true and what is Just complete exaggeration Then I think yeah, you go ahead Matt. You've been silent I'm just gonna say it's true, isn't it? Like like if you've lost your job as a result of the COVID lockdowns and a lot of people did Um, and you know, it hits differently than if you're someone that's just oh, I'm working from home now for a little while Right. I mean COVID didn't didn't affect Didn't negatively affect my life like I enjoyed the opportunity to just read more and I mean I I'm on easy street compared to tens of millions of people Who intensely suffered from the lockdowns so of course Being open to the lockdowns were a good idea as I am open to to that You know, I'm not committed to it But from the available evidence it seems to me that in general the the lockdowns at certain times were a good idea But I didn't suffer from the COVID lockdowns And um, and I was one of the lucky ones. I could just work from home And it was no big deal of basically experience no impact from it whatsoever But I could hear second hand from peeps of people Who were like really adversely affected by it and it takes it's true what you say it takes actually a leap of A leap of empathy to go. Okay. That's not happening to me But I can imagine that if that was me then that would be quite bad And you know when people are in difficult situations, that's when you're more receptive to people going well You know, you know, if there's someone saying look, this is all a crock of shit. This is all totally unfair This shouldn't have happened to you, you know, then that's obviously a message that's gonna that's gonna appeal Yeah, so um, yeah In that short you're like, you don't know where the you know, where's your salary going to come from? Where are you going to pay the bills, you know, right? These are three phd speaking. All right. These are three academics All right people who you know, generally center left But this woman saying due to the devastation of COVID lockdown She started to entertain many of the conspiracy theories on the right not thinking about like what's the best policy for Oh, yeah, maybe I don't need to buy food because um, you know to stop some people getting infected with the virus, you know Those things happen all the time. Um, you have to make those kind of sacrifices, but it just feels like, you know Why why? No, I I think that's very understandable and like a part, you know, a kind of intuitive and reasonable reaction to that situation and I think that like uh In the positive aspects the some of the people we covered do express, you know, like genuine sympathy for people in those and Um, and I think people notice that but on the other hand, it's like I I also see a cynical expectation of of people who are genuine So, yeah, some people think I hate my viewers and that I lack empathy and sympathy