 Vegan processed stuff that comes out all the time that gets better and better and better I mean look at the state of mock meats now tastes absolutely disgusting All right guys welcome back to the channel if you're new my name is Bobby guys today We're gonna react again to unnatural vegan. She just came out with a video called how to fail on a vegan diet What I've learned from ex vegan youtubers me being an ex vegan I feel personally attacked here, and I'm gonna react to her video. Let's have a look So I've had my fair share of Encounters, I guess you could say with ex veganism here on this channel I've looked at a lot of different cases a lot of different why I'm no longer vegan videos and while And it does seem maybe a little bit more legitimate I guess you could say than others, you know really came down to Something that was out of the person's hands out of their control some sort of health scare You can check out my video about Megan moon for an example of that A lot of them are quite a bit different than that. I would say or have some really good lessons in there about Kind of how to do veganism incorrectly because there's a lot of overlap among these videos never heard that argument before you did it wrong Again, I'm not saying that every single person who isn't vegan anymore did it wrong I don't believe you don't video on reasons why people would have to go back to even back to eating meat in Some cases, I don't want anyone to think I'm that sort of vegan But how tolerant of you certainly if you've seen a lot of the I'm no longer vegan videos There there are some common threats. So basically I'm gonna teach you how to fail on a vegan diet Probably what I'll call this video. So just I can teach you that in one sentence eat a vegan diet Start with I'll go through a few that are really focused on nutrition because I think that's that's really the biggest issue The first one would be Being focused on Nutrition makes you fail on a vegan diet. That says everything you need to know about a vegan diet And it is true. I fully agree with you here natural vegan if you focus on nutrition You will fail as a vegan because you will see that it is inadequate Simple as that the vegan diet does not provide any vitamin D3 any cholesterol any creatine Etc. Etc. Etc. It is not found in plants and this is why if you look into nutrition You will be an ex vegan very very simple on rice and potatoes and fruit Just eat a really high-carb low-fat restrictive vegan diet Obviously, you're going to find examples of vegans who have been vegan for a long time and they eat this way Yeah, I would guess I would even go so far and say that the high-carb vegans have a higher success rate Some of them are still vegan to this very day. So this is not a good argument The majority of us who have attempted to eat that way didn't do it for very long It just makes it a lot more difficult to get adequate nutrition when you are limiting fat to such a degree 10% or less is pretty common 10% or less of total calorie when you're limiting yourself to Plants it makes it way harder to sustain that pretty much impossible is focusing so much on carbs Particularly if you're focusing a lot on fruit It's gonna be hard to meet certain mineral needs like calcium and iron and zinc and feeling satisfied How about protein certainly some people can but for many of us we need more protein in our diet Yes, we need more fat in our diet to thank you But how do you do that by eating tofu by eating soy protein? Where do you get high-quality? Saturated fats where do you get high-quality protein? You don't have it in plants I would guess the majority of the X vegan videos I've talked about are from people with a background of eating these really high-carb Really high fruit if not high fruit like raw vegan diets and just eating a very very restrictive vegan diet Actually those guys I forgot their name, but Drew Morgan a good online friend of mine if you will They lived with those people he lived with them in Hawaii and they were planting their own food They weren't restrictive at all. They didn't eat a high-carb fruitarian diet. They planted their own food They had adequate amounts of calories, etc. Etc. But thank God they got a child and they woke up because they understood It is not adequate. It is not a human specific diet. Very simple a very restrictive Vegan diet number two would be avoid supplements, and I think that the main one is pretty obvious here It's B12 every single vegan needs to take a B12 supplement I rest my case most vegans Acknowledge that now it seems like they what else is there to say I mean B12 is only the tip of the iceberg We do know that you need vitamin D3 in some cases creatin if you look into the studies of creatin supplementation in vegans you see Enormous improvements especially in brain health creatin is needed. Yes It is essential as well even though people want to call it a non-essential amino acid. It is Ridiculous, of course, it is essential. You cannot produce it yourself in adequate amounts And this is what is happening here. You essentially become a patient you get sick and you need to rely on Supplements I'm not ideological when it comes down to this I like cod liver oil for example, which is not really a supplement in that sense, but more an oil extract But either way I am supplementing with it and on every supplement bottle at least back in the day it clearly said those Supplements are not here in order to replace a healthy diet, but to supplement it that was it now You're replacing food with supplements and that is of course the danger because it has not been proven that Supplementation leads to adequate outcomes. So you are putting people in danger. That's it anti B12 supplement Sort of crowd has either stopped being vegan or switched over to yeah, you know, maybe we do need to supplement But it's not B12. There are other nutrients of concern That are a little bit look at this the nutrients that require extra Attention from vegans. Of course, this is just a euphemism. This has nothing to do with extra attention The reality is you're not getting adequate amounts. This is dangerous Protein no plant has adequate amounts of protein fact or by food combining blah blah fact Calcium, you know it. How will you get it out of leafy greens? Fantastic by getting a ton of oxalates in your body as well that will lead to kidney stones Iron you don't have heme iron in Plants it is proven that heme iron gets absorbed way better than any type of iron in Plants when my fiancee was vegan She supplemented iron and she was eating lentils and all kinds of iron rich foods on her plant-based diet She was constantly anemic nothing help the supplements didn't get absorbed either and we went to the doctor even so she got them Prescribed it wasn't over counter supplement It was an iron supplement that should have addressed her Deficiency, but it did not work after eating a ketogenic diet her iron levels are perfect How do you explain that you don't sink vitamin a no such thing? You can't have vitamin a on a vegan diet. It is just beta carotene. So now maybe it's gonna get converted Maybe maybe not. What do you do then omega 3 fats? You do not have you only have a la It needs to get converted. What do you do then if it doesn't really convert who cares? Just go vegan everybody vitamin B12 needless to say not found in plants vitamin D Not found in plants or vitamin D mushrooms. How about vitamin D? Three you cannot find it because it is based on the precursor cholesterol. It is not found in Plants or difficult maybe to get on a vegan diet if you aren't paying attention Protein and in particular lysine the amino acid lysine is one of these again If you're eating these sorts of high carb lots of potatoes and rice and fruit You might not be getting enough lysine or even overall protein depending on how many calories are eating if you're eating 3,000 calories of potatoes and rice and fruit you're probably fine But then you're also eating 3,000 calories for most people like me small you're probably fine How can you believe this? Do you really believe that if you as a human eat only potatoes? You got me fine Really is this what you believe? You know ladies. That's uh, that's maybe a bit much even when I work out I eat max like 2200 and I'm by no means uh super thin of course lysine You can get from very easily again as long as you're eating lysine rich Super easy peanuts and tofu. They don't understand that only because it is in those plants It doesn't mean that you will absorb it. That's the whole point Why don't you understand this years and years into veganism people still don't get it? Yes plants have protein But can you absorb it grass has protein? This is why the cow eats it Can you absorb it? No, you cannot therefore it does not matter what chronometer says the question is how is it absorbed by you? You personally peanuts and tofu But something like calcium is a little bit more difficult because there are specific foods that you want to be eating Not spinach. I can't believe I still see stuff like this coming from Like mainstream vegan organizations animal rights organizations like mercy for animals No, spinach is not a good source of calcium stop I know they just have whoever running their Instagram account who just post stuff I'm sure but like maybe don't do that Important that you provide accurate information at least have someone check over that stuff before it goes live Luckily pretty much all the comments are people saying like checking over your stuff No, wow Yeah, oxalates now they get it and the only reason Hands down that vegans start to wake up is because of ex vegans on YouTube I salute every ex vegan on YouTube that talked about this. You are saving vegans lives It's really true oxalates lead to kidney stones Nobody knew that everybody was chucking down green smoothie after green smoothie Kale shakes spinach shake, etc. Etc. Destroying their health So thanks to ex vegans that they came out and spoke about this without us you would be lost Oh, so yeah, some vegetables some greens some dark leafy greens are good sources of calcium But it's only particular ones So if you are going to rely on whole foods to meet your calcium meat So therefore calcium set tofu, which is a supplement 45 plant milks, which is neither milk nor natural It is again supplemented 45 and 45 juices Again, nobody will guarantee you that you can absorb that it's a fact You really need to make sure you are eating those particular greens in relatively large amounts on a regular basis, which for a lot of us is Maybe not something we're gonna be able to stick with to keep up with so yeah But why though you are herbivore after all right, so why don't you just eat grass? Why don't you eat those greens? You should be enjoying them It should be an absolute joy to eat it if it is your species specific diet It might be easier to just supplement for it And the easiest way to do that is to use a calcium fortified soy milk almond milk cashew milk Whatever vitamin D is whatever who cares that elements and cashews destroy the environment and lives of the workers Who cares another one? Obviously go vegan from the Sun, but obviously the Sun also causes cancer Obviously everything a little bit difficult to strike that balance Particularly if you have darker skin You have to spend even more time in the Sun for your body to produce enough vitamin D So for some of us it might make more sense to just there's absolutely no Proof that Europeans ever produced adequate amounts of vitamin D just by the sub no proof whatsoever They always hate organs take a supplement for it DHA might be one as well There's no clear evidence that it's Beneficial for vegans or for anyone really or what the Adequate or optimal intake would actually be but it seems that a lot of the more credible vegan Rds Do take it themselves. So I personally do take a vegan DHA, but I think that and by that you're the first human being Essentially the first generation of human beings that is supplementing an algae extract and we already find conflicting evidence Could lead to cancer their solvents within those supplements Etc etc etc, but the fish they eating the algae, you know the fish and they're not eating an algae extract They're eating algae main thing here is just to not be anti-supplement There's no reason to be just because no reason that egg doesn't mean it's harmful for you There's no reason to be anti-supplement. There's no reason to be anti vex just obey Potentially Three believe that vegan junk foods are only for transitioning. This is something I hear all wow I really don't know what to say anymore. She feels competent to speak about this This is why they always take this get out of jail free card when they say it has nothing to do with diet It is an ethical movement. Yeah, because your diet is crap. That's what this is Fearing vegan junk food. You should be fearing junk food in general because you're putting something into your body That does not belong there. Do you understand this especially from this atheistic vegan perspective? You do believe in evolution. You do believe in the mainstream narrative So how can you believe then that nothing absolutely? Nothing will happen when you ingest something that isn't made for your physiology, right? You're putting something into your body that has no place in there You know that this is full with plant oils. They lead to heart attack So obviously you should have a healthy fear of those things. Why would you eat them in the first place for? Transitioning this is something I hear all of the time I get this video is gold from vegans who seem very confused that I consume vegan junk foods and by vegan junk foods I mean like anything processed Vegan from mark meets vegan ice creams, whatever they're very surprised because it's supposed to be just a Transition food and then you're supposed to wean off of it at some point I guess if someone wants to do that if they feel that you know It's just harder maybe to eat healthfully if they're eating lots of processed stuff. I totally but you don't even understand What healthy means you really don't I'm trying to convey this to your audience You do not have any idea what you speak about. It's a fact get that there are certain foods I've talked about that like I don't have in the house because I just I just eat all of them Fruit snacks. I can't have fruit snacks. I don't know why fruit snacks was so funny to me, but I can't I can't I love them so much I will eat like 10 packs a day. It's ridiculous peanut butter pretzels. Oh No point is if someone just has point is you're starving. This is where you have a food obsession That's it more success and feels better overall because they eat healthier by just being totally Abstinent I guess practicing abstinence when it comes to like any junk foods That's totally fine But to have this kind of view that it's only for a particular period in time And then you're supposed to get off of them because why because they're that unhealthy that you can't have any Yes, actually vegan junk food is Unhealthier than regular junk food if you eat for example a triple cheeseburger At least you're getting a bunch of saturated fats and a bunch of protein at least something sure You still have the crappy bread, but at least you're getting nutrition with vegan junk food You're not getting anything. It is most of the time simply plant oils. Look at vegan cheese. It is horrific Process foods. That's pretty over the top. You've probably heard of like just moderate Just be like everybody else in this society 20 roll or even the 90-10 nutrition to make so great 90% of your diet of your calories coming from healthy stuff and then the 10 to 20% Whatever junk you want because that's gonna make the biggest difference There are diminishing returns and so thinking that you know removing that tiny bit of extra junk is gonna be just as important as You have absolutely no proof for that again You have zero evidence to support that claim. Don't get me wrong. I'm not religious about food If you want to eat a burger here and there go for it I'm not here to judge you but the point of the story is that this has nothing to do with sustainability It has nothing to do with health. It has nothing to do with veganism. It has nothing to do with anything I don't understand why even talk about this. You simply display that you have no idea about nutrition That's all we do not know what happens if you eat 20% of junk food Doesn't sound healthy to me in a fiber eating your fruits and vegetables every day and eating grains and eating beans It's no, there's no evidence that having like a couple pieces of chocolate or a small serving of ice cream Even every day is gonna totally like wreck your health and when it comes to veganism. I think this is Yeah Let me as an ex vegan obviously talk about Anecdotes right because you guys love them so much This is how the majority of people eats, right? They consume a substantial amount of junk food daily We have a thing called modern day diseases. When did they start? They started with the industrialization right we had processed food out of a sudden This is when all those people started getting sick not when they ate a species specific diet Which is a bunch of meat particularly Problematic because a vegan diet is already restrictive. We're already cutting out really quite a few foods There's a reason so many people struggle to be vegan making that even more restrictive by removing all of the processed foods Including all of the new vegan process stuff that comes out all the time that gets better and better and better I mean look at the state of mock meats now tastes absolutely disgusting. I've tried it myself Repulsive on how much better it is compared to 10 years ago for a lot of us were asking for Rebelling, you know for that like rebellious teenager inside of us at some point to just go f this I'm getting a cheeseburger and not a vegan cheeseburger I also want to say that like I find the process food things and like these transition foods. It's so broad Processed food is not all Processed food in the same sense, right if you compare like a I don't know beyond burger patty to like Ben and Jerry's ice cream Are they at all similar what they both come in packs? They actually are and now you make me want to look into it All right, here we go. I just found a picture of a beyond burger Ingredients list so let's start with pea protein isolate Expeller pressed canola oil refined coconut oil water yeast extract maltodextrin natural flavors Arabic gum sunflower oil salt Sakinic acid Echetic acid non-gmo modified non-gmo modified food starch cellulose from bamboo Methyl cellulose potato starch beat a juice extract a scorbic acid annatto extract citrus fruit extract vegetable glycerin and it contains coconut oil Now let's have a look at the vegan Ben and Jerry's it is based on almond milk liquid sugar cherries coconut oil corn syrup solids dried cane syrup sugar cocoa pea protein sunflower lecithin fruit and vegetable concentrates guar gum natural flavor yet again lemon juice concentrate soy lecithin vanilla extract locust bean gum Caragayan so yeah, not comparable at all at all similar what they both come in packaging okay fine But one has protein it has B12 it has iron it has like Relatively healthy right especially You know whole wheat bun and maybe fries and whatever else is absolutely What's wrong with that right who cares about the casinogens in that thing they even studies show me the studies I do not care, but it's true beyond burger is customogenic. Oh Man, I can't go on with this. This is too crazy. This video takes the cake pretty great Especially if the you know rest of your day was relatively low in protein That sounds like a pretty awesome addition to your day, you know Wow Ben and Jerry's no, there's there's nothing nutritious about that at all How how are they the same so just keep that in mind when talking about This is crazy. So we both looked at those ingredients and we came to a totally different conclusion We have no common ground to stand on. What do we do? This is crazy. Don't you see? Wow, don't you see that if you look at a regular burger patty you find One ingredient which is meat, right? If you look at an ice cream. Yeah, you find sugar, et cetera, et cetera So in normal regular food, you would see a difference But not in your so-called food Franken food. They're both pumped for with non-addable substances You don't understand this. Wow vegan junk food or whatever and maybe learn enough about nutrition so that you Right. Yes, maybe somebody should diet the final kind of nutrition one believe that a vegan diet Makes you invincible or cures all of your problems. It's just yeah, if you think that by now you're simply an idiot You know the perfect healthiest diet. What do some say? It's a species specific diet It's the diet we were meant to eat when you go back. Yeah, if you say that again You're an idiot look at a lot of these ex-vegan youtubers their original content This is often how they spoke about a vegan diet They talked about it as having cured something that they were dealing with or being the healthiest diet It's very very common And I think you're just setting yourself up for failure because you set yourself up to see any little thing that Happens as a failure of your diet if this diet is supposed to be perfect If it's supposed to keep you from getting a cold, which is something that vegans have actually said Nobody's talking about a cold the point of the story is of course as a human being you want to find a diet That keeps you healthy, right? If you're getting constantly sick Something is wrong within veganism. We see it all the time people do get sick They lose teeth. They get depressed. The digestion is a mess. Etc. Etc. Etc. At this point Looking at you Listening to you. I really believe that you have a barrage of side effects that you simply ignore That you simply do not see you don't even know what it feels like to be normal I really believe this as far as I know you are an antidepressants as well So I Rest my case one more time I really think that you lost touch with your body to such an extent that you have no idea What it means to be normal? This is really really scary. Wow, man. What happens when you get a cold? Hmm Nobody talks about it. It's not so perfect Nobody happens when you age a little bit and you start maybe feeling a little bit older You know, I feel a lot different at 30 than I did at 20. Yeah That's actually a great point because this is what my vegan followers back in the day told me Because I faced all kinds of struggles on my vegan diet and I was transparent So they told me, yeah, well, you're just getting old man, but it's normal right now. You're 30 Yeah, well, how come that after I started eating animal foods again, I felt young again I felt normal again essentially so there is definitely a difference between Getting older and feeling different in your 30s than your 20s for sure, but it's not the same symptoms How do you know as a vegan right? How can you really know that it's your age in my case? It wasn't 30 now and I'm not 20 anymore Or is it because I'm vegan and when you listen to some of these ex-vegans talk about the problems they're dealing with Sometimes it's very vague again. Not always but often it is it's very big. Yeah, but your presentation is not vague at all All right, just eat some junk food and eat a little bit of this and eat a little bit of that And you're gonna be fine. Just take a bunch of supplements and take a bunch of antidepressants And yeah, man, it's totally fine a kind of brain fog Adrenal fatigue vague digestive stuff. So please remember that vague digestive stuff So I heard from countless of vegans that had either total constipation or total diarrhea or that they even had SIBO It was diagnosed IBS, etc. It's not vague at all veganism. It's an ethical choice ultimately Yeah, there we go. It's not a Dietary choice in the sense that you are choosing exactly the get out of jail free card right because Once a person understand that they are in a cult and this diet is detrimental to their health This is when you will tell them actually veganism is not about health at all. Hmm. Somehow I do remember Slightly when I got into veganism. They told me it's good for the planet good for the animals and good for my health Hmm not valid any longer vegan diet because it's the healthiest diet. I mean if you're doing that wrong Setting yourself up for failure. You're still gonna age You're probably still gonna have medical conditions come up And there are lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of health conditions that have nothing whatsoever to do with diet So that's it for the nutrition stuff. All right This is where I will stop as well at the nutrition part because the video is long enough as it is If you're interested in further reaction to the same video, let me know in the comment section and I will react to it Wow, really, this was mind-blowing. I haven't reacted to vegans in a while But this is everything that is wrong with veganism in one video Congratulations Absolutely phenomenal even my mind is blown and I was vegan for four years. I've been ex-vegan now for I don't know three years or so by now Absolute cognitive dissonance brainwashing beyond belief Suffering suppressed by anti-depressants. It is crazy. It is really really Mental anyways guys this is it for today if you enjoyed the video leave it a thumbs up if you haven't subscribed already guys Please do so and if you want to support this bad bad anti-vegan channel Then please check out the links in the description box I am sure there is something waiting for you there as well. All right, but this is it May God bless you all may God protect us all and as always much love and peace