 This is game chat born episode 126 the culling of overwatches toxic Yes Please folks and welcome to game chat with one episode 126 I'm glad you can stop by today. Hope to have a good show today. I'm having a lot of sinus issues There may be a lot of cuts maybe a lot of coughs Without trying to make sure I don't blind you with my coughs, even though the sound goes through your ears I don't know how in the world that will affect your eyes, but anyway game chat one episode 126 We're gonna talk about four stories today Keep this show a little bit normal In terms of length Some juicy topics this week. I think there's gonna be some good topics to talk about Not only from the the stories that they're about, but it's like they also cover some of the underlining issues With gaming today and a lot of companies and what they're going through So I think there's gonna be a good discussion and I hope you all enjoy the show. We are on Spotify We're on everything now itunes spotify We're on Google Play and also your good old-fashioned RSS Feed that you can put into your podcatcher. All right guys enjoy the show. Let's do it And for our first story we're gonna talk about fortnight fortnight has earned one billion from in-game purchases alone Story comes from games industry. Biz It's crazy. This is a free-to-play battle royale version of fortnight that they're talking about One billion One billion now a free-to-play game from in-game cosmetics Alone, this is market research firm super data, which I've talked about in previous episodes Um and that fortnight battle royale games in general that include this figure as well as non-visuals physically Some other stuff i'm reading that shouldn't be reading But they know that the battle royale game in general is by far the most popular genre For gaming across all platforms. So that's an important piece of data in all of this is that hey, we're talking about the most popular free-to-play game out there and Just how much in-game purchases are are affecting it if you've never seen fortnight What they offer are skins dances alternative gliders glider effects sprays Little things like that, which generally don't affect gameplay and this this craze, you know started I don't know if it started, but It was a big big deal in eastern games where Where pay-to-win was a big big deal A lot of korean-based mmo's They had a heavily heavily Microtransaction-based games and that came over to the west I first remember it being big with team fortress too with with valve crates And skins and stuff like that. That's when everybody went nuts And then they caught on the counter strike and then gambling and then boom, you know, we're here um But it wasn't always in gaming a lot of the things that we've earned in games in the past Uh, where these things and you know, we play the game and earn an alternative skin I remember playing games where you would have to finish the game on the hardest difficulty To uh to get the a new skin to get a new skin variant. I mean street fighter too You just got a different color palette and it was a big deal Uh It was amazing, but uh, you played the game to get that Slowly we're returning back to that. I think game companies are starting to realize that we're getting a little bit fatigued With this uh, this wallet based cosmetic stuff, especially on games that we already buy I mean, that's like a double dip type of thing that we don't generally like as gamers but The battle royale genre is so popular The battle royale genre is filled with younger audiences that have allowances or have mom and dad's credit card Or you know Earn their money however they do it not allowances they may have a job And you know, they may go out and cut some grass like I did To buy that favorite nintendo game. I wanted maybe they're buying fortnite skins or battle passes As a result, but good grief guys for one billion dollars Is just insane. Check it out game industry dot biz has the article fortnite one billion dollars from in-game purchases alone And for our next story, we'll talk about overwatch and overwatch just released a new feature a few weeks ago Which offers endorsements, uh to players if they provide, you know, good intel during a match or they're a good team player And it shows a very very visible indicator of just how many Just how many endorsements you've received And uh like if you if you end the match it shows your teammates You can say this person's a good shot caller. They're a good team player and so on and so forth And the more you get of those The higher your ranking is and it shows a little number next to your name So so overwatching and it goes the guys over at blizzard. I may have said valve earlier. I don't know My brain is a little tipsy Anyway, um the guys over at blizzard they uh, they they put this in to combat toxicity In competitive games these days because it's a growing problem Uh, I think a lot of people realize they're toxic, but they just can't control it For some reason they get into the competitive nature of the game Uh, they're probably not even used to having that kind of self-control because of social issues or whatever They don't get out and talk to other people so they never had to refrain from calling somebody a name or some sort of a really toxic vitriol term That they don't think is harmful because they go I didn't mean to say it or I didn't really mean what that word meant But that's not that's not an excuse. I learned that as a child that you got to be careful What you say because your words do have power And you can't just go around just calling people things and say you don't mean it afterwards because You actually did that you actually said that so I think people are starting to learn through bands and whatever That this is becoming a serious topic for gaming companies Um, I know the guys over at uh, the rainbow six siege people yubisoft They've been banning people for for saying this stuff. They've just been outright banning them not even no questions asked So overwatch has tried that they've tried a much more heavy-handed approach and it worked a little bit But they're happy to report according to this post on their forums That They just finished parsing some stats as it relates to lfg and endorsements. I'll talk about lfg in a bit The percent of competitive matches that contain abusive chat is down 27 percent in the americas and 17 percent in korea That's 25 percent just from one feature. That's pretty big The percent of daily players being abusive is down almost 30 percent in the americas and 22 percent In korea. They say we're really pleased with the community's efforts to make overwatch a better place. Thank you all And we're all working on iterating these features to make them better as well as exploring other systems to improve gameplay environment so again, this is uh, this is one of the reasons why I don't play overwatch competitive because I have self-control you know, I have enough self-control to where I don't I don't lash out at people and There's others though that I mean it got to a point to where it was like every other match. There's always one person That ruins the match now you can ignore the person sure But they still can do their work if you ignore them not everybody else will And they'll get the job done. They'll make you either lose or they'll make somebody else mad You'll mute the person that they may mad And by the end of the day you're muting everybody and then they go to the text chat You have to hide the text chat direct the match is ruined at this at this point. You're just trying to mitigate toxicity So i'm really happy to see that things like endorsements and lfg are doing this now Let's explain what lfg is lfg is kind of a looking for group thing for overwatch where you can queue Under a specific role. So if you want to be a tank you want to be a dps you want to be a healer or support I should say support You can do that. So when you go into a match, there's expectations that you know, you will fulfill that role And you won't have people squabbling over. Why are you playing dps? Why are you playing tank? You suck at this? You know, blah, blah, blah It cuts down on that just a tad and I know I think heroes of the storm Was looking into something like this as well. So they're probably going to use the technology That uh overwatch is using because it is all blizzard to do the same thing in the mobile genre Now heroes of the storm in that genre has done really well Cutting down on toxicity and they're starting to slowly introduce Features that can you know possibly inflate it like voice chat and all text chat, which generally What toxic people use to to flame each other But i'm really happy to see that compared to matches That contain abusive chat and players being abused is down almost 30 across the board, you know, 26 percent I'm talking about in americas 26 percent for chat and almost 30 percent for for players being abused And I guess you know people really really care about that little number next to their name um I know it could be something as simple as that that could really change how a match turns out So who knows maybe we'll return to overwatch and see how competitive is Post lfg and post endorsements to see if the toxicity has really really gone down I know i've seen some streamers and you know my wife plays overwatch and she tells me that it's helping um And I watch the streamers and they they say the same thing it's it's actually cutting down on abusive people They're starting to check themselves because there's a there's actually a pretty good check and balance for it now It's amazing what consequences can do for actions You know when you when you do actions and you have no consequence, you know people go nuts But all of a sudden there's a consequence or there's something that you could lose or something that is affected Oh, man People change their tune simple simple stuff, man simple parenting parents. Do you hear this? Discipline your children check it out guys over at the view us that forums that blizzard.com They got the details about overwatch And how the endorsements and lfg system are really really helping toxicity in that game And for our next story we're going to talk about the culling and namely the culling too And a new video came out today from the ceo of uh Uh Exaviant that's the name of the contrary our company. Sorry Exaviant uh john van veldt And uh, he put out a message Essentially talking about the culling to release release last week now If you missed the bandwagon if you missed the story The culling two is a battle royale game which is the sequel to the culling one The culling one came out a few years ago And came out of early access and was met with kind of like a lot of player angst because They released the game without doing a lot of things that the players wanted And it was to the lot of players surprised that the culling two was coming out so quickly Even after the culling one wasn't really finished the way it should have been So today, um, we got a message from the ceo because their last their launch last week was pretty bad um The game pretty much was a carbon copy and I say carbon copy. I'm talking about major features now A carbon copy of popular by the battle royale games out there like like pub g and the like Now that on the zone is not a big deal because everybody else is doing that too But the thing about the culling is that their original culling game was so unique and had a lot of differences from those other games Uh, it was more hunger games than a lot of the battle royale games were I think it was a game show format Was very popular with streamers. It was very fun And what happened with the culling one was that They went and made a lot of sweeping changes without getting proper player feedback and essentially changed the game for the worse And as a result as you probably guess Population declined the game pretty much died So they came out with the culling two and they tried to pretty much carbon copy the games that are out there Abandoning what made the game the culling and that the game was actually in a bad state It was in the bad state and there was nobody playing it I mean, I think at one point on steam stats. It was one player playing It was really bad and I've never seen steam reviews call a game what these people call the game I mean, there was like literally no reason to compliment this game They gave you every bad reason to so the video today from the the ceo Was a how long was this thing? I think it was close to 10 minutes. No, it was five minutes about six minutes Uh an apology basically acknowledging that the culling the culling two Was a whopping failure And that they made a mistake in making it and they clearly delivered a game that nobody wanted Um He also admitted that The mistakes that they made in culling one that they changed the game too quickly And that they uh, they had the features that nobody wanted and they made the game something else Then what people asked for was a mistake as well. So it was like a lot of apologies in this acknowledgement of their Uh of their mistakes And what he said was is that they're going to actually put the culling one Day one version, which is the one they released in march 2017 on their test servers To kind of retune and to reshape that game into what players actually want And they're also going to close the doors and close the stores for the culling two So the culling two is going to get removed from steam from pc from xbox ps4 They're going to close it down shut it down and they're going to get people refunds So this is a big big deal They're going to lose a ton of money. I mean I you could you could tell by the look on the ceo's face that this is not The best financial decision, but I think it was a humbling thing for him to do Um that he you know, he had to really humble himself and I apologize for all this Now i'll talk about the genuine nature of the video in a bit, but um And to top it all off they're going to release the culling one Re-release it as free to play So in retrospect and in summary The culling two is getting shut down from steam ps4 and xbox The culling one is being reborn on the test servers now and eventually will be released again as a free-to-play title They say they're going to keep it with the original uh culling features all the different perks all the air drops and everything Uh and so on So a very very humbling video And uh I can applaud the effort, but Here's the but I I'm seeing this as the death of the culling um I really believe that you know in general when a game starts out as buy it and goes free to play Certain things are going to change in management certain things are going to change in the company and essentially it's going to shift into Like a maintenance mode Let's make money for somebody who's going to buy us out or some type of thing like that Whenever a game goes free to play that's kind of what's happening. It's essentially the game dying And kind of being reborn into this microtransaction filled state um So I look at this as the death of the culling. I really do now people are praising him for for apologizing because you don't see that a lot I mean you don't see a lot of developers and a lot of CEOs coming out apologizing for doing wrong I am Happy he did it, but I'm not impressed because that's what you're supposed to do anyway I shouldn't be impressed by that I I mean if you made a mistake you should apologize. That's that's that's pretty much how life is And the fact that that's a surprise is kind of sad But yeah, they made a mistake And yeah, they did they did all these things wrongs and yeah, they were driven by probably the wrong things money And now they're paying for it. So they apologize. I accept their apology But at the same time This is not looking good for the culling. I mean sure they're going to release it. It's going to come out free to play There's people out there that's probably going to stick with it But for all intents and purposes, I think they've lost the trust and they lost the respect Of everybody who who will probably accept their apology and say, okay, that was cool of you to do that But I'm still not going to play your game And I'm not going to trust you with a free to play title to make the right decisions Even though you say you learn your lesson There's going to be a lot of people out there that are not just they're just not going to do it. They're not going to trust them And they're not wrong for that. There's a billion other games out there to play There's too much choice. I mean these companies have to be careful. You can't Make the most minute of mistakes because There's a lot more choice out there players are just going to go elsewhere and play something else Especially in the br genre The br genre is getting filled quickly Very quickly. So the culling had their chance and they messed it up and now they're trying to backpedal and get it back I don't see it happening. I think the game is essentially dead Uh, I think it's going to be reborn as a free to play thing And I don't think it's going to succeed. I want them to succeed. I don't hope they fail I just don't I'm realistically licking at it and going well, that's the end of them Check it out guys over on rock paper shotgun. They got the details about the culling Being relaunched as free to play. I love their headline the culling to is dead long live the culling Check it out guys And for our final story, we're going to talk about warframe Let's talk about warframe and from a fellow content provider and warframe partner magamu put up a great video And the title is warframe was already a great game And I kind of saw this video coming when I saw his tweet His tweet was reading like does anybody else is anybody else getting sick of tired of people calling warframe or people saying that warframe Is suddenly good I was like, oh, here comes a video And if you haven't subscribed to magamu, please do i'm on the link is video in this Um, and what he talks about in this video is very true now warframe is getting a lot of positive press I think some big youtubers are picking up on it Big streamers are picking up on it and they are praising the game Um, for what it is. It's a great game has a lot of things and it's a great free to play game Um, and most notably it's riding the hype of the tinnocon 2018 announcements about Fortuna and railjack Both big features for free to play game And magamu bricks a great point is like these outlets are really really hyping up the game They're they're really jumping on this thing and calling it, you know and saying that warframe has gotten good And I think he makes a great point magamu makes a great point when he says that Warframe was already good. It was already a great game. Now. It wasn't perfect. It had a lot of problems But it was already a great game I've been playing since 2013 On and off and I agree wholeheartedly. I streamed the game To know the tune of 40 to 50 people every night Talking about how great a game it was, you know, you know being honest about his shortcomings about the new player experience And all the different systems, but at his heart. It's a really good game probably one One of the best One of the best free to play games out there, you know, and we compare it to the path of exile You know, we go head to head and discussions on my live streams But it's it's been a good game for years and I've been trying to get people to play it I've been begging people to play it And they give you excuses. It's not for me. I don't think I'll like it And rightfully so I just say, okay, you know, it's not a big deal But now a lot of these same people are coming back going, oh, it's gotten so good But the things that they're appraising the things that they're That they're really complimenting have been there for three plus years So all these things were there before but they just didn't like them And I I completely agree with that I completely agree and a lot of it has to do with hype trains You know where trends are going, you know, some of the streamers and the content providers may be genuine But I think a lot of people are what I like to call. They're just riding the bandwagon The views are there. The clicks are there. People are not talking about destiny anymore. They're talking about warframe So let me get on that train. Let me say, oh, the game is great now So I can get people to click on it. There's a lot of people doing that And mcgonville ends with a very very valid point and I agree with it as well talks about how As a result of this with the media and these these youtube providers and twitchers They're beginning to over hype the game They're really beginning to over hype the game putting it in the same category that they did with destiny Because they put destiny on this really really high pedestal to being a perfect game to do everything perfectly right perfectly And it ended up falling short of that, you know And the danger of setting really high expectations is that you're not going to meet them And when you're not and when you don't meet them people are going to get mad and they're going to say the game fails Or the game sucks So it's really really disheartening to see that this trend is happening And I agree it is going to happen if they keep this up So I think it's really important for these new content providers and people and youtubers and twitch people You know to say hey, I was just late to the I was just late to the game And acknowledge that the game is great As is and it didn't just happen overnight because again The only things that were new This past, you know a few months that is getting hype was the sacrifice trailer Where some people don't even believe is the best our sacrifice quest Which some people don't even believe is the best quest in the game I mean, we've had these cinematic quests for going on three years now, right Second dream was what two two thousand thirteen two thousand fourteen Something like that Maybe even uh further than that two twenty fifteen probably yet three years is twenty fifteen So secondary war within and now the sacrifice three years of cinematic quests and you're just getting on it now You've had three years So I absolutely Positively agree with magamo and I'm not being like a hipster vet or anything But he makes a great point and it is absolutely true. The game was good before It had his problems again. This is not a perfect game It had his problems, but good grief. It wasn't a great game and the game we're playing today A lot of it is the same game that was there three days three years ago I mean some systems have been retooled and overhauled and changed But the core game is still there So check these check out this video. It's about a seven minute video Very very well edited Um magamo has a great sense of humor. You're gonna like this style And you'll see that warframe Hopefully you'll see that warframe was always a good game and I think a lot of the hype is just people late to the party And it's okay to be late to the party. They shouldn't feel bad for being late to the party, but we When I say we I'm talking about content providers and fellow twitch Broadcasters would go into their streams the same people that are hyping to the day and beg them to play the game You should try warframe. They'd be playing destiny and they'd be hating. I'm like, well, probably you should try warframe It's a great game has a lot of similar grinding elements that you may like It has some you know some crafting differences and has some movement mechanics But you may like it because there's a little bit of similarity between this and warframe No warframe is not for me. I heard it was pay to win. I heard this and that that You know, I You can only do so much to try to convince people to try the game and then Now the game is getting all this hype their dev streams are getting a hundred thousand views Oh now you want to play warframe? Oh now you think it's the best game So check this check the story out guys magamo makes a great point. I absolutely agree it's getting ridiculous How many people jumping on this bandwagon and how many people are hyping it up If you're looking at warframe as a potential game I humbly ask you to go to the warframe partner list the warframe partners on warframe.com And browse through those youtubers there and watch their videos If you go to somebody who is not a partner You might get some over hype Because a lot of the partners that we go through and the partners process at digital extremes is pretty strenuous If you're a partner, you probably know what you're talking about and you probably have a good handle On where the game has been and where it is now you'll get a down-the-earth opinion I'm not even telling you to go to my youtube because I only have like six or seven warframe videos Magamo is a good source. There's a There's a bunch of other people But you can you can take your pick and find a good content provider if you're on the edge about checking out warframe because there's a lot of hype and a lot of false hype and Contrived hype Don't fall for warframe has his issues. Don't set the expectation super high for a free-to-play game Okay Check it out guys warframe was already a great game. Magamo does a great job of bringing out this good point Thank you. Magamo Thank you And that concludes game chat with one episode 126 I got through it without coughing too much These allergies are killing me chat and you're not chat. I mean killing me audience. What do I call you guys? You're you're you're this is a delayed. This is a portable on-demand cast as we called it back in the day a podcast This is delayed. What do I call you? 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