 I said, man, you know, give me a bitch, give me a bitch. So that's when I got to be around the holes and the pimps and the culture and the lifestyle and his brother named Star Child. He kind of gave me the game. He said, man, whenever you see a bitch, he said, ask the bitch, where you going? Where you live, bitch? Where's your mom and where's your uncle now? He said, drill the bitch. He said, make sure you get all the information from the bitch. He said, that's how you gonna tell what type of bitch you got. You know what I'm saying? And then, you know, he told me, he said, man, this how you knocking nigga for the bitch, when you get him, you serve the bitch. You know what I'm saying? I'm knocking him for this bitch named Bridget. You know what I'm saying? I was 16. So I became legendary at a young nigga. Yeah, we on boss talk one on one, one on one. Yeah, we gonna talk. What is it? Okay, but who was your, can you remember the first, the first hole you ever know? The very first was an old Hawaiian lady. That was the first one. The very first one. What about you, Ken? Can you remember the first one ever? Yeah, I was, I ran away from home, me and my brother, and we was on the track on 24th in California, Madison in California in Chicago, and there's one day, and she said, you're a little cute nigga. You know what I'm saying? And I said, what you do? You know what I'm saying? She was working for this nigga named Chocolate Dice. She said, I get money. You know what I'm saying? So me and my brother, we going up and down the stairs, we seeing all these bitches have neck, and we didn't know what the fuck was going on at the time. You know, then we see Don Juan and them pulling up and Chocolate Dice, all these niggas got Cadillacs and shit. And, you know, she ended up being in a room next to the room. So he was standing in a whole hotel, you know? So we, she ended up being in the room next to ours. And you know, she just, you know, we just started talking. So that was the first hole that I know was a hole. Then there was this other hole that was holding with her, little light-skinned and pretty bitch, right? So I'm harassing her. Now you know I was harassing. Why are you doing this? Why are you doing this, right? So Chocolate Dice, he sent some niggas and me and my brother and we ended up leaving everything in the motherfucking hotel, everything in the hotel. They chased us, man, and we, and I don't know if you've been to Chicago, where they got these stairs, you go up the stairs and it's like, like wooden stairs, but once you go up the stairs, you can't go nowhere. So we jumped inside the garbage cans. Me and my brother, we had to hide in the garbage can. They're like, where'd them niggas go? Where'd them niggas go? Those were Chocolate Dice hit man. We hid in that, I never told this story, man. This is the first for this. That's crazy. That was the first two hoes that I met. In that, we went to Milwaukee. I met my man, JD, and so he had three bitches. He ended up giving me one of them hoes. That's the first hole I would pimp down. So you know what I'm saying? That was my introduction to the game, man. There was a lot of niggas like the old men. You know what I'm saying? They was on heroin. They were blowing cocaine, little stupid ass shit. I could say they're stupid because I grew up under my mama's thing, the Christian shit, right? So I knew no drugs. I still don't do no drugs these days. You know what I'm saying? So I, you know, I said, man, you know, give me a bitch, give me a bitch. So that's when I got to be around the hoes and the pimps and the culture and the lifestyle and his brother named Star Child. He kind of gave me the gang. He said, man, whenever you see a bitch, he said, ask the bitch, where you going? Where you a little bitch? Where's your mama and where's your uncle now? He said, drill the bitch. He said, make sure you get all the information from the bitch. He said, that's how you gonna tell what type of bitch you got. You know what I'm saying? Then, you know, he told me, he said, man, this is how you knock a nigga for the bitch. When you get him, you serve the bitch. You know what I'm saying? I end up knocking him for this bitch named Bridget. You know what I'm saying? I was 16. So I became legendary at a young nigga so that the old man Gordon to do a slogan. He was talking about the kill stand. That's when the nigga started fucking with me. You know what I mean? I'd be over there with them old niggas. You know what I'm saying? The career had a perm and shit. You know what I'm saying? That's when they used to wear perms and I used to be sitting up at the same beauty shop. Them niggas, they'd get my hair popped. You know what I'm saying? Go get my shoes from non-bush. I was a young nigga, but I still had that gangster shit in me. You know what I'm saying? So I couldn't shake the gangster shit. Cause you know, I mean, I'm in the game, but you know me and my niggas, we robbing banks and doing crazy shit. So I'm like, you know, that's really what was in me. But you know, I'm gonna try this pimp shit though. I'm gonna say how this shit go, right? You know what I'm saying? Hope you this shit will give me out of this shit. My misery is right. But you know what I'm saying? I'm going back to the penitentiary. And then when I got in the penitentiary, I met Pimp and Pope. So Pimp and Pope, he give me the game. He said, listen, man, so you gotta desensitize yourself, man. You see, you can't have no feeling from the holes. I said, well, how you end up being a nigga if you a pimp, why you in here with me? He said, well, the nigga Sam, doing that pimp and Sam jumped on the sky, shot him off the car. It's this girl named Juanita. I went to high school with, you know what I'm saying? I mean, she had chose up on him. Then she ended up choosing up on Sam. And that's why he shot Sam. And so while he was in there, he told me, he said, man, you know, there's no difference between the in-pocket bitch and the out-of-pocket. He said, man, listen, man. He said, bitch, you better go from this motherfucker in the best part of that, in the best part. Of course, a ton still sticking here. Dick had not losing the drop. He said, bitches, love instructions. He said, whatever you do, you get bitches stressed. Hey, clean my shoes, wash my clothes. You know what I'm saying? So that's how I really got acclimated with the gang. So when I came home, the first prostitute I met after I got, you know, when I'm ready, really ready was the bitch's name. God damn, man, Nancy. So then I met curling and that's really sparked my career. And from there, you know, I just started, you know, like Michael Jordan, I just started, when I get in the air, I tried another move, you know what I'm saying? And next day, you know, Nick was trying to shut me out of the pill, but I was the slickest talking nigga on the blade. You know what I mean? So I'm spitting it like a oozy. You know, I had a oozy in my mouth. Blrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. You know what I mean? That shit was just drilling, right? Some of them just, you know, they just started liking me and shit, and then I, my dumb ass went and robbed another bank. Damn. And robbed another Jewish store. Went back to penitentiary. Gat out, you know what I'm saying? I mean, you know, I come up with this other bra named Tangi and Cece. and it was all off to the races. So I was pimping like 95 going north, you know what I'm saying? And niggas love me everywhere I go, cause you know, I've always been a cool dude. You know, this image that I have, this ain't no fake image, I've always been humble and cool. But I've been a gang, I was a gangster, but I was a humble gangster. You know what I mean? So I went to a wild nigga, I'm like, if you fuck with me, nigga, I'm gonna sleep under your porch, you know what I'm saying? Nigga, I'm gonna stick a bitch on you. I'ma get you. That's the kind of gangsta I was. I went to the kind of, yeah, you know, I ain't have a gang banging this shit, I just, niggas knew not to fuck with me, you know what I'm saying? Cause I didn't play that shit. So then after that, it just was pimping on, that's how I met Rome, you know what I mean? And I met him, you know what I'm saying? When I seen him with them 17 bitches, now I seen them pimping like motherfucker, you know, I can say he came to my party, he had 10 bitches with him, you know? And my niggas was like, God damn, you know? They was like, what's with God? I said, this ain't even a squad, nigga, this just the party. I said they got seven more bitches somewhere else, right? And you know, I asked crazy, hey, man. Hey, man, but you know what though? The crazy thing about Rome is I came to Dallas, I went hearing about him, I was hearing about other pimps, you know what I'm saying? I mean, this pimped, this, this pimped, that, this pimped, this, this pimped, that. And I would hear about them, I never seen they hoes. There was some giants in the town, but I never seen they bitches. I seen a couple of bitches right up and down that I might've sweat on the blade on the track, you know what I'm saying? But I never seen they hoes, but when I stopped fucking with Rome, I seen him actually, you know, like people tell me, man, I ain't never seen him. People came with 16 bitches, I had them, but they ain't never seen them. But Rome had 17 bitches, and I really seen them. And I said. You seen them with him? Yeah, man, I got the movie in my, I got the movie, I got part two, I don't even really show it. That movie I showed you, I'm gonna give you part two of it. You gonna see it up. Yeah, we on boss talk one on one. Yeah, we gon talk.