 All right, so perfect timing, perfect timing, wow. Hey, so once again, you know, we're good? Focus, focus, we ready guys, we ready? Hey, so once again, we're on stage, and these two fine females on stage, I gotta stand in the middle to hit the, well to hide something, but also to have the microphone work. But anyway, they work with me, and they work with me with the sexual life, and they have their own things that they do. Well, what I wanted to talk to you guys about, one of the most important things is like, it's great hearing me speak, but I wanted to actually open up the floor to an interaction, and if you guys are open to an interaction, I'm cool with that. If you guys aren't, well then you can hear me talk more, and just look at them. But I wanted to have this interaction about, if only the cameras could see that. I wanted to actually have, I think there's a table standing up, I don't know what's propping it up there. But I wanted to have an interaction about three things, and remember what I talked about. I wanted to talk about authenticity, all right? And if it doesn't really serve that, then we'll kind of like sidestep the question, and that sort of thing. I also want to talk about sexuality, and that could mean being turned on, that could mean what women want, that could mean what men want, or what they want in men. That was kind of the same thing that I said, Jesus. And then, the last thing is man, I forgot, what was it? Authenticity, sexuality, and female perspective, all right? So female perspectives on whatever it is that you guys are doing. I think one of the biggest problems that happens in this industry is that we actually, we don't talk. We think everything has to be a secret. And one of the core fundamentals of sexuality is that it's a bad expression, and the quicker we can open up that dialogue, the better. So this is Janelle. She's been with me for a while, and you may have seen her on some awesome videos. She is one of the most, I've worked with a lot of women over the years, and I've always found it necessary to work with, when I'm working with men to work with women, and vice versa, I guess. But she's excellent and made probably some of the biggest breakthroughs that I couldn't do myself with men who have actually seen like high levels of abuse and a lot of trauma and a lot of stuff which was holding them back from actually expressing and being a sexual being. This is Melissa, and she has been a coach for a long time, former Marine. I mean, I should just let you guys introduce yourself. Well, I'll make you quick, former Marine, but also works with me and a coach on many levels has had coaching experience with business, how to talk to workshops and how to talk to men, how to talk to women, all that sort of stuff. And so we're here to answer your questions. So I guess raise your hand, we'll hand out the microphone and bring it on, unless you guys wanna say anything. No? No? This man's got his hand up. Is that the hand that you used just now? No? Cause I wanna shake that. So I don't know if you guys have been here at the convention, but I'm sure you've seen, you've been to other conventions and I was wondering if you guys thought there are any teachings or flashlights out there that you really would stay away from or really damaging. Wow, who wants to go first? Okay, what we're trying to accomplish in the sexual life is a little bit different than what I think I've seen other pickup artists do. And in my opinion, pickups almost like the first step. It kind of gets you in the door, but it's not gonna keep you there. And you have to ask yourself, what do you really want out of these connections? I mean, if you just wanna bang a bunch of girls, that's fine, we can help you with that as well. But what do you really want out of it? And usually the answer is they want a genuine connection and a lot of guys that have been through pickup often come to us later on because they don't feel fulfilled with what they're getting through the pickup community. Did you wanna say something, Melissa? I concur. No, it's true. What I especially like about what Janelle says is focusing in on what you want because that's where the bread and butter is. And it's different for everyone and we have different ways that we can interview you, interact with you, methods and things that we can teach you that you can use to harvest those things to get clear on what it is that you want so you can really organize around that and go into action in order to get those things, you know? So that's what I can say about that. And you guys can actually speak Frank if you want. I mean, geez, I talk a lot of trash on it too. But I think one of the things is that we find in social dynamics is if you look at pickup, it's this small thing, right? It's this small window of how we're supposed to express ourselves. When you look at seduction and when you look at socialization, it's wide and vast and an amazing thing. And when you limit yourself in that way, God, man, you're limiting a force of nature that's inside you. And man, in some weird way, shape or form and I could break it down, it turns into an essence of confusion and contradiction and a lot of lost stuff. And techniques work up to a certain point. But if you think about it in regards to cells, I mean, when a salesperson uses some kind of technique on you, you know it's coming before the words even roll out of their mouth. Techniques find up to a certain point. But after that, you really have to tap into it and have an authentic experience, a real connection, something that is not false. That's what shifts from, okay, let me think about this one, two, three step and I'm gonna do this. Whenever you approach a girl in that way, it's gonna trigger their defenses in some way or another and it's going to limit what you could have, whether you're trying to have sex on the first night and that's that or you're trying to have something more meaningful or what have you. So technique is good to a certain extent but then you have to learn tools and learn different ways in order to have a more real connection. In those connections, just having authentic interaction with someone, you can fill it immediately. There's no game, it's not fake, it's not a facade, so on and so forth. It just shifts and transcends everything immediately. I mean, another thing is what do you do if you're not a 10? What do you do if you're not six feet tall? What if you do, if you're not charismatic and have a sexy British accent, where do you go from there? You know what I mean? You deserve to have someone that cares about you that is interested in you, that's attracted to you. I mean, like she said, those techniques can only take you but so far. Personally for me, whenever I'm in like a seduction situation, I never see another girl as a direct competition to me. I never see another woman as a direct threat to me because there is something that she can offer that is different than what I can offer. My experiences that I've lived through my life allow me to offer someone else something different. So I don't see someone else's competition but what we try to do is, since it's a very individual based program that we work with, we try to see what it is that you have to offer and bring that out of you and make it better. We don't want to change you into puppets. This man's got one. Chicago, Illinois in the house. What's a nice hair? I know man. We're like, he's not here for the pickup stuff. I thought he was from the beach. Totally, yeah. You two both being beautiful women as yourselves, what are your biggest frustrations first when you first meet someone in a bar and also when you develop a relationship with someone, when you're in it for six months and it's that time where you're like, are you gonna stay with them or are you gonna drop them for someone new? That's a good question, man. Solid. Well, for me if I'm in a somewhat of a bar situation and I mean what would be frustrating to me is if I see a guy across the room and it actually happened recently. I was in some kind of bar in New Mexico and I'm marine so I'm like scoping out the whole room. I know what all of you are doing and these two guys are sitting by the window and then, I don't know, 30, 40 minutes later they move right next to my girlfriend and I's our table just much like this. And then it's just like you can see what they're doing a mile before they can't even see what they're about to do. And that's, I mean, frustrating to a certain extent because it's not engaging, it's kind of fake. It's not very smooth in another sense, whereas if it's just you can see the game a mile away and it's no fun to hunt if the animal's dead on the ground over there, I don't know. So I don't know what you can say on that. Now I think one of the most frustrating things is when men can't, they can't read your body language or your social cues, which generally leads to me being behind someone don't see me, you know? So that's probably a big thing. And I think that's something that's easily fixed if you take the time and work on it and learn and understand body language. But yeah, that's probably the most frustrating thing. Well, and actually you asked more than this and this was interesting because I've had discussions with Melissa about this and both of you guys, first off, once again, bringing it back to authenticity and sexuality, sexuality will happen if you allow it to happen. And really your technique is there to facilitate an environment. Situation beats technique. If I wanna get laid, I make that situation happen, right? So if I'm like in a room with all these people here watching and I try and like try and have a threesome right now with these two, which they'll just kick the shit out of me. Well, especially, well, I don't fuck, she's got a taser. Got it. But anyway, which is we're offering a free seminar whoever wants to get tased, but things fucking vicious. But anyway, the thing is, is the situation's bad. All the technique I know, you know, is not going to make that work. Yet if I have shitty technique and I'm alone in a room and can allow it to happen, that's key. But if we're authentic and see the problem is our tools of approaching and doing this or whatever and whatever routines I'm saying are tools for me to express myself. Our tools for me not to just express myself and get attention, because that's a big difference. Attention is very different than seduction, right? But they're tools so that I can achieve a level of seduction. But one thing that I wanted you to hit on is like the overall man. Cause you were like, man, who cares about all that attractive shit? Well, yeah, I mean, being attractive and having a nice car and dressing nice is great. But what I really like to, you know, insight people to take a look at, especially whenever I'm working with men, is I want to tap into you. What is your desire? What do you want? You know, what is your purpose and all of these things to develop, pull out of you and develop, you know, what is your game? What's your business game? Or what direction are you going in your life? What do you want? And what are you doing to get there? What kind of action are you taking in order to get there? Because, you know, everything on the surface level, I've got, I have nice hair. I'm wearing these clothes. You know, I have this car, whatever else. I have a nice Mac, whatever you've got going on there. That's great. Maybe it's like giving you some, you know, points where women are, you know, looking at you for five seconds longer. But underneath that, when you dive under the surface, what is really there? You know, what's your game? Because that's who you are. And when a woman is going to interact with you and have a relationship with you, whether it's a relationship or whether it's just, you know, kind of a dating situation or what have you, whenever, that's who that she's really interacting with. And you need to know what is your game? What is your business game? Who are you? What's your purpose? Because if you don't know what, if you know what that is, I should say, if you do know what those things are, immediately you become more actualized and you bring yourself into a different state of presence and you bring yourself into the room. And that sends a real message out to everyone around you, men and women. And that is where a place where authenticity can happen. Real connections can come about. And, you know, whenever you are clear on what those things are, you know, you're gonna start becoming more magnetic because not only are you in touch with yourself in a completely different way and taking it to a different level within yourself, but you are also going to attract a completely different type of people, you know, into your business game, into your life. The type of women that you will really want to be attracting are going to come about because you become magnetic, because you're in sync with yourself. You're making moves and, you know, going into a direction that fits who you are. It is you, it's real. It's not just, you know, a club boy scene or something of that nature. You know, and that's what I challenge you all to figure out is what's your game? What's your business game? What are you about? You know, what kind of message are you trying to portray? And what are you doing to get there? And actually, before Mark, you answer, I want Janelle to have a, unless you wanna pass, you can finish anything. Well, because I think, she always brought up a concept to me that was like, you know, in a relationship, it's much, and this is kind of what you're hitting at, it's much different. And you were the one who was like, what is a hot chick? You know, what is a 10? Why are you going, like, who are you as a man to, and actually, Terrence actually talks about it. He's like, man, if you get a 10 and you're a five, she's gonna eat you alive. You don't deserve it. But yeah, so what's that kind of thing like relationship was? No, for me, I think whether I decide to stay with someone or whatever at that month, six month mark or whatever, it has to be with how we're connected and how we're experiencing each other, if they're experiencing with me, if they feel with me. And one big thing that we come across a lot in our clients is nobody, nobody experiences anymore. A lot of guys that know techniques and that come to us with games, it's a one way street, you know, they're there and they're saying all the right things and they want you to respond back to them with the right answer. But if you respond something different, they're thrown, they're floored, they don't know how to react, because they're not experiencing the moment. It's a two way street. And so many people are so cut off of it. And I think it's more, what we're finding too is that in this growing world of technology, everything that's meant to keep us together and make us more interconnected is just keeping us connected to people, but at an arm's reach. People lack the ability to socialize anymore. They don't even know how to talk to people anymore. If I see one more person in the grocery store with earbuds in, I'm gonna jump in front of them and go talk to them, you know? People just lack basic experiences anymore and they want to connect with people and they don't even know how to connect with people at this point, so. Let's move to Mark. I know there's a lot of questions, so we'll try and go fast, right? Hi, so my question was you said something about the first step to learning is mimic or the first step to teaching is mimic. So I spent about a year basically observing men. I mean, I observed women as well, but finding men who are with women like I want to be with and figuring out what it is about them and I'm pretty good at it now. I don't know if I'm any better with women, but I'm good at picking out, okay, there it is, I see it and it usually takes about 30 seconds, about a minute, I can usually. So I find that they seem to have an answer to a question or they have a magic about them, the men and, you know, no homo, but, you know, they have something. Let's do that right now, everybody take the pants off, keep their shirts on. Let's do a Romanian deadlift. Yeah, I just want to copy it. So my question is what does that feel like to you, to women? What, do you feel that same way? Do you, when you meet a guy like that? Oh, there's like the magic kind of thing? Yeah, it's almost, it is a personal thing about that guy and it sometimes depends on the guy and the girl and how they interact, but sometimes it's just the way the guy is. I mean, he just, I think, I think I understand. I mean, there's guys that speak a social and sexual language that is nonverbal, that's communicating directly to certain women and when do you see that? I mean, sometimes you just, you just feel that, you know, and the thing naturally as humans, when somebody, we see this a lot, people will come up to you with game and like their faces will be totally different. Like, if you come up to me with a smile, my natural response, like the muscles in my face are triggered to, you know, prep for a smile on myself and simple things like that they don't even do and then they're wondering why they can't get these women, but if you're coming up to me frustrated or nervous and you know, I can feel that. Our brains are hardwired to connect with other people. When you tell me a story about running, the center of my brain that lights up has to do with the part of my brain that would light up if I were actually running. So, you just have to kind of pose yourself in that same mindset of what you're trying to get, if that makes any sense. Melissa? Well, definitely, I mean, between men and women, as Steve was saying earlier, and what I believe too, that it's just true, there is sexual energy. I mean, there's no way that it cannot be there. I mean, it's just our decision on how much we wanna open that up and explore it with one another and you don't necessarily have to be having sex in order to experience that sexual energy because it's just the nature of the game. It is what it is. So definitely, whenever I'm interacting, as I'm looking into the audience and looking at all of you different men, I mean, every one of you is different and there's something unique about you. You have a different vibration, a different energy and I immediately feel those things whenever I have the moment to interact with you one-on-one. And yeah, sometimes, I mean, with some people, there's gonna be a more rigorous kind of vibration that you're picking up on right away, like what you were saying. And some people, maybe it's not so much or what have you, but you do, definitely we do feel those things and we pay attention to that as well. I mean, of course, that kind of leads back to attraction and the different things that you're attracted to. I mean, there's so much on the nonverbal side that's going on that where we're communicating before, we even get to the verbal piece of it. So yes, we definitely pay attention to those things. I think it's a good thing, one thing that you could do as well, and it sounds like you have to up your game and awareness of what the playing field is. And if you're paying attention to those things and noticing them, it's gonna make you way more intuitive to the situation and to the women that are in the room and you'll be more adapt and aware of how to approach them in a way that will be more responsive, where they will be more responsive to you, I should say. I'll actually move on to the next question. We're having a seminar after Jared's speech. We're gonna have the room till 8.30, if you guys want to Q&A it. It's some of that Anthony wanted to do for it. So you can get longer answers there and all that sort of stuff, but this is good stuff we're talking about. I just want to get as many questions in as possible. Well, hello, thanks for coming. I really enjoyed your talk. He talks about a lot of inner game concepts. I really liked that. And I want to know a little bit more about the identity and what are the elements that constitute an identity? So I would like to know what do I need to do to create that identity or uncover it or design it? Cool, really quick I'm gonna answer and then they're gonna answer. Number one, you have to discover yourself. The way that we work on doing that is the first thing you do is do an inventory, which everybody is like, how do you get technique from this? To be honest, man, the techniques in the stuff that we do, and you can ask some of the guys here who've done it, they'll tell you. I mean, it Trumps, it redefines social dynamics, man, you get to be yourself. You get to be the man who shows up and has the presence to attract the sexuality that you should attract, not all the stuff that you just want. So it's inventory, you look at yourself and there's like questionnaires and all that sort of stuff and experience. Who wants it next? I feel like part of the problem, or part of your question was problematic in itself, like how do you develop an identity? You already have an identity. It's a matter of uncovering it or accepting it and if you have some things that are not some positive parts of your identity working through them and connecting to them. You already have an identity. That's not for us to build. We're here to develop it more and to develop the good parts of you, not to give you an identity to be someone you're not because who you are is good enough as you are. Quick answer? Well, most definitely, you know, whatever, what I do in coaching, you know, working with Steven Janelle is definitely look into you and pull out what is, you know, help you see. I mean, you're like everyone's like a puzzle and you have to see what your different puzzle pieces are and as you start pulling those things out and it's really important to do with someone else. You can see yourself to a certain extent, but whenever you come together in a team situation or whenever you come together and you're working with coaches or what have you, they give you a completely different view of yourself and it helps to fully pull yourself out and bring yourself into the room in a way that you can be present, you know, at a completely different level and then, you know, it's just self-actualization at the end of the day. I'm actually gonna pause here. So for questions, we're actually out of time, but look, afterwards, go watch Jared's speech. He's an amazing dude. He's the man in the suit back there. Sexy, man, I wish you'd come up here on stage. Dapper Tyler. Yeah, anyway, so watch his speech afterwards. Go get a quick bite to eat and come back in this room. We're gonna be here and we wanna talk to you guys. We wanna individually workshop with you guys. It's for free. There's also an infield stuff for, I don't know if you guys signed up for the free infield thing that I'm doing tonight, but if you did, talk to me, but it's gonna be from whenever this ends, maybe like, whatever this ends, go get something to eat, 7 p.m. to 8.30. Come in here. It's gonna be more intimate. We're not gonna be on a stage. We wanna, anybody who wants to have a piece of what we talked about, you know, that sense of getting to know sexuality, exchange, femininity, seduction and even ask tough questions. You could talk about sexual escalation questions. You could talk about even sexual dysfunction questions. We are here to talk about them with you guys and work through them and so that's what we're here for. Hit us up on the brakes, talk to us individually and that's what we're here to do. We love what we do and we love living the sexual life. Any final thoughts? Be there. Come talk. All right, we gotta take a picture on stage. Anybody who doesn't wanna be on Facebook, well it's not gonna pick you up, but cover your face. Woo-hoo, check it in. Look at that, man. The iPhone for reasons, get yours. What the fuck, technology. Anybody have any last questions, last questions? Final thoughts? Nothing? We were amazing. Well, thank you guys and the sexual life. Oh, here we go, woo. Get close, ladies, what the fuck, man? Have some pride. Woo!