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As long as we've got some viewers. It's a little strange talking to myself. But okay. Okay. So anyone says to go ahead and go forward. So let's do it. So we're here to wrap up our Kenya adventure. Kenya was, unlike all of our adventures, quite interesting. You know, I never know when I set these up. If if they're going to work or not, I get nervous with each 1 that we're not going to have any any success. But we had A significant amount of success, which I'll tell you about in a little bit. And I also kind of want to talk about, I think We're now we've now finished our fourth tour. So that's 60 notables that we've been working on and four different nations. And what would that be? That'd be 12 12 weeks. So that's that's Three months that we've been doing this. So We're we're getting at a point now where I'm beginning to pick up with some patterns and seeing what's working. What's not working and then also Noticing the significant Differences between the four countries. There's been a lot of We we learn a lot of things with each country and some of that gets transferred over to the next country. But a lot of it we're starting fresh because it's different types of records different type of culture different type of values that the culture has towards Not only genealogy, but record keeping in general Family units Naming patterns, all that kind of stuff. So we'll talk about a little bit about that today. Going back to our previous three countries. We did India Argentina and Ukraine And I'm happy to note that people are still working on those three countries and the profiles that we had left and completed we have Somebody who I have not been able to identify yet has gone back and done some really solid Biographies, which is good the three weeks For 15 Notables plus all their families. We've had anywhere from a hundred to four hundred Family members added to each of those 15 notables. That's a lot of profiles and three weeks is not a whole lot of time to not only connect but also Work on the biographies get the sources all of that stuff. So I'm glad to see that there are individuals that are still going back and working on adding family members and More importantly getting some really nice bios up if you go back and read any of the Bios for the notables of the last three countries Somebody's done a really good job and and that's and that's good because it's you know, it's nice to have all the factual stuff up there, but it's even better if Visitors can go and actually learn something and and you know, enjoy their visit rather than just getting the The facts and figures that we bore our family with with as genealogists so often I see Thomas and Christina both check in that's good So so again the the previous three countries were we're still doing good on now. We're in Kenya So what's interesting about Kenya Kenya was A British colony for some 50 years or so in the in the 20th century early 20th century they gained their independence in the early 60s and They have had Five presidents now Four of those presidents were among our notables one of those was The fifth one was actually the son of one of our notables. So he's indirectly one of our notables. So all five of the presidents were We're on our list in either directly or indirectly the The one thing that stands out to me first off with with all of these countries They don't Know as much about their leaders as we do about ours We know some very intimate details about our presidents and governors and senators Including their family members in Kenya for example, and we found this also with To a degree in India Not so much in Ukraine, but we did it with and or Argentina, but with India we did the People don't know about their leaders or their families and when I'm reading newspaper articles about the for example the newly elected President of Kenya a lot of these articles Are it's almost like investigative journalism they say we think he may have five children or he may have four children We think his wife's name was this or Very very they're very unsure and it just doesn't seem to be something that That the powers that be want one out I compared it when we were doing Ukraine to the Soviet Union Ukraine is much more open, but when they were part of the Soviet Union, it was the same thing We don't know much about Vladimir Putin's family. If anything at all Particularly compared to our own president's family. So that's a good example of a culture that Either doesn't see a need to share that information or actually has a desire to hide that information. So So when we're doing genealogy and we're doing research, it's That's one of the big challenges is that that information isn't part of the public record These people are out there, but Even just finding a newspaper article that says who the president's children are is not an easy task But we overcame that and that's the thing that's amazing with this with this Project that we're doing the members that have been working on this Do an outstanding job of finding out of the ordinary resources Sharing them and then using those resources to put a family together We start typically to go through a little bit of the process We typically start with wiki tree and just see what's out there, you know on the on the most obvious site What is a list for family members doesn't list the spouse doesn't list the children doesn't list the parents a lot of times We can get that there The second thing is just a Google search and see what comes up online biographies Now Kenya is interesting because they seem to have a very active online community There are a lot of blogs a lot of private websites that we were able to find that talk about the various people that we were Researching and they often have information that the Newspapers the more more public things don't have now we've got away the legitimacy of those those comments I found for the first time of the four countries. We've done Kenya seem to be very big into conspiracy theories and When talking about their leaders in particular People going on saying this is what the government wants you to believe but this isn't true. Here's the true story Somehow I know what the truth is even though nobody else does Not a whole lot unlike some of what we see and some of the media out here in the United States So once we do Google and once we get You know the wiki tree information the basic stuff then we can start doing a deeper search and One of the tricks that we found was rather than googling the notable themselves, which we do do but no But googling the family members Because that's going to take you to a site even if the article is about the the notable It's also going to share information about their family as opposed to their political careers and other things that are going on If you Google the president of Kenya, you're going to get all kinds of information But if you Google his Child's name or his brother's name you're going to get articles that are connected to his family or Maybe not connected to the president himself, but to one of the You know information that's specifically about a relative that maybe has nothing to do with politics and From there, you know, we were able to expand it. So, you know, that's one of the the tricks that we've used the biggest obstacle, I think we've had is that The sources that I've just mentioned tend to give names and Relationships but not much else. So we're not getting a lot of dates and places There may be some places but not so much dates. So we can do some estimated dates when building profiles You can estimate the parents dates, maybe the brothers and sisters dates the children's dates You start going beyond that you start getting into aunts and uncles and great aunts and uncles and second cousins It's difficult to estimate dates with any real accuracy. So the question then becomes Do we do we create a profile or not? if We really have no biographical information and the only date that we can come up with is really an arbitrary Guess so that's that's been one of the challenges that we've had The other thing is a lot of the people That we're reading about are still living or may or may not be living We don't know. We just know their names. So whether they're alive or not. We don't know So that becomes another question is when do we create profiles for living people who are not famous? And when do we not and basically the consensus has been that we do not add Profiles for the living non notable people unless We need to have them there in order to make the link. So we're doing a lot of our work off of wiki tree I know I do mine primarily on ancestry. I put the tree together and once I've got it solidified I didn't go in and add it to wiki tree. So I know by that point whether I'm going to need a Profile for a non-living person and every once in a while. We've had to do a spouse or a child in order to get the in-laws in but we have a lot of Potential profiles out there that we haven't Created individual we haven't actually created profiles for so anyway, so that's just kind of a little bit of the process that we've gone through So let me get Get some facts for you One of the things that we've focused on primarily is making connections and something that I've emphasized in the past sessions is that When we're doing connections is just one way to keep score. It's kind of a fun way to get a number figure, but It's really not the only way to measure success One of the things that I mentioned earlier in the in the session or in this talk was that We want to get biographies written. We want to get sourcing and also there's a number of factors that go into counting Connected profiles that can skew the numbers. So when we start comparing countries to each other it gets a little misleading for example When we were in India, we had 250 new profiles created, but we didn't connect any of those individuals to To to the main wiki tree We had one individual that had 59 relatives that we were able to find but You know, we still weren't able to connect it to the tree on the other hand This time around we had an individual who we only connected to three people only credited three profiles and had her connected I forget exactly the path we took but she had a Husband whose parents I think were on on wiki tree already. So all we had to do is connect them to his parents and She was connected to the tree. So We had that done on day one So it's really again difficult to keep track that way then the other thing is once we connect somebody to the main tree I can no longer keep track of the numbers of new family members because Anybody we connect at that point Anywhere on the tree is going to ultimately be a relative. So we have to stop counting once we make the connection So if we make the connection and then we continue to add more relatives, those people don't get counted The other thing is as I as I would say with the living notables some of these people we have a couple dozen relatives that we did not create profiles for and That technically should be counted as as as connected relatives But because we chose for privacy reasons not to create those profiles that throws the numbers off as well So anyway, let me let me give you some numbers This time around of our 15 Kenyan profiles we were able to connect five of them to the main wiki tree We also created as of this morning We had 182 new profiles that we created of Kenyan Some notables, but mostly non notables. So that's almost at the 200 mark And again, if you count all the people who we didn't create profiles for because they were living or profiles We created after we connected those five living living personalities The number would be well over 200 new profiles. So Considering Kenya's history the lack of records, etc. I think that's not too shabby Let me tell you a little bit about a couple of I'm gonna look here at these comments because I see them coming in But it's a little difficult for me to Read while I'm talking so excuse me just a minute and Let me see if there's anything I want to comment on before we move on And again, it's a little odd not having a second person's voice to Share here, but So a comment on the lack of written records prior prior to Prior to the colonization which again did not occur until the early 1900s, I believe if I'm correct So there is a lot of oral history in Kenya and countries like Kenya very similar to our own Native Americans here in the United States their standards for Accepting oral tradition are different than what there might be in Western culture Here we emphasize it just because your your grandmother told you or your grandfather told you This was the family story doesn't make it true I think in a lot of these other cultures if your grandmother or your grandfather told you the story then it's true and It very well may be so the question then becomes how much weight do we give that in the case of President Kenyatta who was the first president of Kenya his immediate family is Well documented through newspapers and other other recent sources You start to go back further. It's a little it's it's not as documented But he has family oral history that's been passed down through his his native tribe and It's it's considered valid In Kenyan culture, it's it's very well It's it's not written in a document, but it's been passed down from generation to generation and it's considered It's it's considered legitimate now, so how do we handle that my solution for that has been We post it and you post the source you say that this was oral tradition I don't know if it would fly for the pre-1700 profiles, but for the post-1700 profiles I think as long as we stay clearly The source of the information. I think it's valid and in fact, I think it's important that we put that up there because You know to hide that information just because it doesn't meet our Western standards doesn't seem right to me in another case There was a Another one of our notables I'm trying to make sure I get my story straight Grace O'Gott. I think it's how she pronounces her name She was a an author and a politician one of the first women to hold public office in Kenya her brother is Was the ambassador to the United States? No, I'm sorry to the United Nations from Kenya He has Been on one of the other Ancestry websites genealogy websites and has posted his family tree He is listed as the host of that tree. So Apparently comes directly from him and he has listed his grandparents his great-grandparents and his great-great grandparents and Again, he does not Would not have been alive. So he doesn't have first-hand knowledge of that, but he's written it down as Family tradition and I Think if he's gotten that from his grandmother and that was her parents and her grandparents It's probably pretty accurate. So again, we put that in there and Individuals that are researching his tree later down the road can decide for themselves whether they want to count that or not But yeah, that is one of the difficulties we have when we move outside of the Western culture is that The standards for genealogy are maybe not the same as ours Yeah, and here Thomas is given a few comments and all those lines We didn't know it's here real quickly. Yeah Yeah, and Thomas is saying that the the English arrived around the 1880s and that's that's probably true as I'm thinking it through I should have that in front of me, but But yeah, they were probably there as early as the the late 1800s and I believe The Germans were there before that and so it's and the Arabs were there before that It was Zanzibar at one point, which was an Arab trading post So they have a long history of Western contact but the peoples themselves were mostly villagers who Did not keep birth certificates desert ever gets married certificates, etc. In fact when President Kenyatta got married He was married in a tribal ceremony And when he converted to Christianity He was forced to get remarried because his wife became pregnant and they wanted to The Christian church didn't think the tribal the tribal ceremony was valid So he had to have a second marriage in order to make the child legitimate under the Catholic churches What he was that the English and Anglican Church of Scotland that he was with so You know even that recently there was still They were still not using Western standards for recording things Let's see what I want to also go over here We also had the other the first two that we connected Joy Adamson was the author of Born Free That was one of my grandmother's favorite movies when I was growing up. We watched that multiple times. I still remembered the song She was connected through one of her husband. She was the first she was connected on day one She had I think three husbands and one of them had some I don't think they were in a certain nobility, but they were prominent People back in in Europe and so he was pretty easy. They were already on wiki tree somebody just hadn't quite made the connection that You know connected Joy Adamson, but we had that done on day one on day two Daphne Sheldrick who was also of a European background She was a conservationist worked primarily with elephants. She was connected on day two. So that was We were off to a really pretty good start and then we connected Lupita Nyong'o the actress the Academy Award-winning actress She was actually born in Mexico, but her parents were from Kenya. They were there on diplomatic for diplomatic reasons and Her family is all in Kenya But we were also able to connect her she has a number of relatives that have moved to the United States So we were able to make that connection as well And then President Kenyatta and Grace a got where the the remaining two Something that I Well, let's see. Um, I Found kind of a pattern in our process here and something I don't know how many people if anybody that's listening right now is new or has chosen not to participate in This the 15 nations global tour. I think it's very intimidating to a lot of people When they hear Kenyan genealogy, they don't know anything about it and they maybe turn to turn away We get a lot of comments for people who are really enthusiastic and supportive of the project But when it comes down to it, there's only a handful of people that are actually doing the work Which is fine because we're we're doing an amazing job But I'd like to see more people get involved and one of the things I want to say to anybody that's thinking about it or Feeling intimidated by it There's a couple of things first off. None of us know what we're getting into when we start When we started with Kenya You know who who In America other than maybe People from Kenya know anything about Kenyan genealogy. It's not something that is taught or focused here And so we're really starting from scratch and we put our heads together and we figure it out the first week Each time the first week has been a little bit discouraging for me I think I don't know how we're gonna get anything where we're We had a couple, you know easy pickings on this one the first two on day one and two and then things just kind of stagnated and we kind of fumbled around for several days and then we started getting some breaks and we started finding some newspaper articles and finding some family members as I mentioned the Grace of God's brother was the American ambassador well He moved or the ambassador to the United Nations in America when he left that position. He stayed in America He married an American woman However, she was of Italian descent and she came from a really large family I think there were something in her father's family something like 10 children that were all American born But they all married Italians also and just one spouse after the other we were tracing back to Italy back to Italy We finally found one that we were able to trace back to Czechoslovakia That didn't do us much good either and then finally we found one who had Long-time American roots and we traced her back and we traced her back And we found a great great great grandfather who was on wiki tree already But We couldn't find the evidence on ancestry calm Somebody's made the connection several people have made the connection, but nobody had the source So we were at a standstill with that we found another line that went back just as far But then ended up in in Ireland And we weren't able to get the records there another line went to Cuba so It was just one dead end after another and then finally we found one that went back And even though we didn't have solid proof we had enough circumstantial evidence the families lived in the same area that the rights size they had They were next they lived on farms next door to each other so there was enough evidence based on What we what we had that we'd made that connection, but that was week two Most of that was in week two we started putting things together week two we got very Enthusiastic after being discouraged week one because things were falling into place and we started making connections and we got number three connected number four connected and I found that same pattern with the previous three countries that it seemed like week one was really a struggle week two Was really rewarding and then came week three where it seemed like we'd started to exhaust all of our resources and Things started slowing down again, and we started making fewer connections But that was okay because that also gave us time to go back and solidify some things fine tune some things Work on some biographies make sure our sources were in order. So that worked out fine and then as far as Making our fifth connection that that occurred last night And it was in consultation with a couple individuals Who'd been working on the tree that was grace of God's family with you with the ambassador and We finally made the connection We were we were trying really hard to get it done by Monday so that we could announce it here and we we did it So that's a little bit of the pattern. So again, if you're brand new and you're not sure if this is something for you Just remember that we're all facing that same thing in the beginning and You know, it's it's fine if you just stick with it. The other thing I'll say is if you can't If you can't make the connections if that's too difficult, you're not sure what to do Looks like my my camera is off here, but okay, um, if you can't make the connection Work on biographies Help us with some cleanup a lot of times. We're in such a rush We get a lot of facts listed on the profile, but they're a little bit disjointed going and writing it into a narrative form You know, there's a lot of things that You know that we can do to To work on these profiles besides actually doing research So if you're finding the research is too hard, that doesn't mean there isn't still in fact In fact, not just a place for you, but actually a need for you because those of us that are doing the research Aren't having time to do the biographies and and putting all that together and and so If you just want to go in and make things look good, that's fine You can also go back to the previous three countries and work on those there's You're not you're not stuck with being in the country where we are So anyway, um I think that's enough for kenya So if you're ready, I will share with you Our next stop for our next stop we're going back to the americas We are going to take a trip to the caribbean And we will be visiting the nation of Haiti I think um, Haiti is going to be a pretty interesting Visit, um, I've Been through we picked the 15 individuals And um, I think there's going to be some really interesting stories that we uncover Um, I think we have a good chance of making some connections based on the little bit of Research that I found but even if we don't make the connections I think the stories that we're going to uncover are going to be really Really pretty intriguing now. I'm going to see if I can Pull up my screen. This is new to me Uh, let's see Give me just one second here Okay Okay, and um This is the wrong page, but if you'll give me a second here, I'm going to go back to Um, I'm going to find you the kenya site so you can see what we're looking at here I'm sorry the Haiti site Okay, and just so you know, I cannot see um the screen and Follow the chat at the same time. So if you have any questions feel free to post them Uh, but I won't be able to see them till the end. Um, okay So here's our list of 15 Haitian notables. Number one is king Henry the first I don't know how many of you know this but, um briefly after, um, Haiti Um Haiti had a revolution against the Spaniards that was led by the slaves And um, it is the only nation I believe in the world, but at least in the Americas that was founded by, um Slaves who revolted it was taken back From the Europeans and uh during that early process they had a single king And his name was king Henry the first And he is our first notable It'll be interesting to see being that he was a monarch. He was a slave who became a king, which is The class that kind of rags to riches story. Again, that's going to be a fascinating one to read about But, um, it'll be interesting to see being that he was a monarch how well documented his family is Um, and I'm going to really screw up some of these names because they're in French and I don't speak any French Um, so please bear with me as I mangled them as I've done with the previous four countries also I'm remaddling Like Chenius You can read it and She was, um She was the mistress of a Haitian president And then um After she was done with him became the mistress of a second Haitian president. She apparently had Extreme sway over both presidencies and she is known, um As the most powerful woman in Haitian history Um, she basically ruled the country through her relationships. Excuse me I'm sorry about that. Um She, um Yeah, so she ruled, um, you know kind of indirectly, um over the country for a while I have just uh, not not directly but through her influence. So that's again going to be an interesting, um individual to read about Um Oswald Durand is a poet. He is considered today to be Haiti's national poet. Um Don't know much about him. Again, I've said this with the previous, um Countries, I don't do a lot of research on these people. I basically take a look at their Wikipedia pages um, I do some research into, um How famous they are in the country. They need to meet a few other criteria like not having a um Uh Well-built tree already on wiki tree Something as a side note one thing that I will say almost all of these individuals Have wiki tree pages already Um, somebody went through and created a whole bunch of Haitian profiles and that's great. However, um Almost none of them have any family connections. No spouses Parents children, etc. So even though I didn't create most of these profiles Um, they were, um created by somebody else, but there's still basically, um undeveloped profiles Most of them had been orphaned. So I'm not sure. Um, I didn't go back and do the research to figure out who created them, but um It saved me a lot of work this time. So I appreciate whoever did that um and tenor firman an anthropologist um during his career an individual from france, I believe wrote a book on the superiority of the white race over the black race and firman became famous because he wrote a book countering that Explaining how all races are basically created equal And uh, that color or um racial background has nothing to do with a person's Value or abilities. So, um, he became famous For that For that document Cincinnati's Leconte Okay, Cincinnati's Leconte was the 19th president of Haiti. Um, yes a few interesting things in his story, but I didn't pick him for his Uh for his own career because of all the presidents of Haiti. His is not necessarily anything spectacular, but this is the anniversary, I believe it's the 101st anniversary coming up of the titanic and um Cincinnati's Leconte had a nephew Whose family was the only african-american family aboard the titanic Um, his nephew was killed his nephew's wife and two daughters survived um I was not aware that there were any african-american families on the titanic and um in speaking with the titanic project, um, we I was informed that there were actually titanic survivors from all over the world including china, japan, syria, egypt It was the list just went on and on That was fascinating to me. So anyway, we agreed to work with the titanic project Cincinnati's not connected to his nephew. So we're going to have to figure out who his siblings were and who was the father of The titanic survivor whose name I don't have in front of me But we'll get that out there But um, ideally we can connect not only a Haitian notable But also a titanic survivor in the same in the same breath, so Anyway, that that's going to be an interesting one. Um, constantine enriquez He is the first black athlete to win an olympic gold medal. He was a rugby player He, um later introduced The sport to Haiti um Didn't find a lot of information about him as important of a person as he was So it'll be interesting to see what we can find out about him But again very very first african-american or Black individual to win an olympic gold gold medal I should say black because as opposed to african-american because that includes africans themselves Um, hector hippolite Grandmaster of Haitian art don't know a lot about him. Um, but he is one of Haitia's Haiti's top artist This one is a fascinating story. Fauston E. Workus. He was a marine. He was stationed in Haiti Prior to world war two, I believe He met the queen of one of their islands And the queen made him king And for three years he served as king of this island At the end of the three years the marines called him back. So he resigned as king went back to his homeland and um The rest is history, but for three years he was the king of this island off the coast of Haiti So again, that's gonna be it's gonna be an interesting story to uncover The next one is a not-so-nice man Papa doc douvallier I was very familiar with him when I was in In high school and college. He was a Basically a dictator a very brutal dictator I included him because I think he probably had more influence over the country of Haiti than just about anyone else Even though it was not necessarily positive. His son baby doc took over after him and Was comparably comparably brutal Don't know much else about that family, but They they Played a major role for about I think over 30 years they were in office. So I think it's an important one to include even though he's not such a beloved figure Jacques Romain Again, don't know much about him. He was an author. He was a marxist author But considered one of the leading literary figures in of Haitian eight of Haiti Dr. Yvonne Sylvain. She was the first female physician in Haiti don't know much about her as well, but um, that's a that's a pretty, um Honorable accomplishment she had there. Um max Bivouar, I'm going to say max Bivouar was Called the pope of voodoo. He was a Biologist PhD Who became the head priest of the voodoo religion? and Try to kind of bring it into the mainstream Another interesting story to be heard there. Ariel Henry is the current prime minister of Haiti now, I'm going to jump ahead and then come back to Ariel Henry Jovenel moise Again, I'm hopefully I'm pronouncing that. Um, maybe moise moise moise. Anyway, he was the president Previously, he was assassinated back in 2021. That was pretty big in the news. So some of you may remember that He was assassinated. His wife was shot and flown to florida for surgery And um, they were shot in their home It was a big investigation as to how people got into their home when there was security, etc Some people think Ariel Henry had something to do with it. Um, since the assassination of the president Haiti has not had a president And um, the prime minister is not elected. He was appointed. So there is currently no elected government in Haiti Um, simply this, um appointed prime minister and his team of people um That's a bit of an issue there. Haiti is going through a lot of turmoil right now And uh, this guy is kind of in the in at the head of it. So, um Again some interesting stories, um With what's going on currently as well as in the past and then um, perhaps the most famous Haitian in america at least Why cleft gene used to be a member of the fugees? Um He, uh Tried to run for president of Haiti But uh, was not allowed to because they said he didn't meet the residency restrictions Uh, he is one of the few I generally don't put living people on here other than Uh, the prime minister But every once in a while I throw in one just because I think they're they're important figures. So there's our 15 um I will have this posted by uh tomorrow In the meantime if you would like to go to the website you can, um Go to any of our previous Nations and just change the nation out for Haiti so you can go to the kenya website And up in your address bar just replace kenya with Haiti and it'll take you there Otherwise you can wait till tomorrow and I'll have it posted on g2g and in discord um Thomas has offered to put some pronunciations and I would really appreciate that because um I read these names. I get familiar with them, but um, I don't hear them said out loud So when I start to pronounce them here it I I'm I'm sure I'm Not doing them justice But yeah, he did that for ukraine and that was terrific. Um, I I I'd like to see Maybe even getting a team of people like that that can start doing that for profiles because it's really helpful For those of us that like to read, um The the profiles of the notables And let's say I'm just going to check here if there's any other comments Yeah, kathy is saying, you know, this is a great way to learn. I have learned so much about Our four nations that we've covered. Um Things that I never knew, you know, we didn't learn about kenya in school Um, and even if we had that was a long time ago So things have changed quite a bit reading the biographies the biographical information reading newspaper articles That are you know covering them as current events You know, we we we use the metaphor of this being a global tour And when you take a tour to other countries, at least if you do like I do some of us Just like to sit on the beach and relax, but I like to get in and learn about the country learn about the the historical places the people and um This is just like a virtual world tour. I'm I'm learning so much about These countries that I that I never knew and it's it's just fascinating and you know We get isolated in our own cultures and we kind of start to think that the whole world is either like us Or um, it's primitive and and behind us Uh, but you know, these countries, you know going back to The 1900s You know, they may not have been as developed in certain ways as the western world but they sure had their own cultures and their politics and their You know, there are ways of doing things that Again, it's just it's really really fascinating. We were talking about zanzibar earlier, you know zanzibar that was I believe 1500s And they're and they're trading with Syria and the Middle East and You know, they're introducing Islam to the to the african Coast and so there's there was just so much going on You know and that was um You know 500 plus years ago. So it's it really is You know, even if we made no connections on on this project Just the amount that I've been able to learn has really been rewarding Um, so if nobody has any questions, we're almost at five o'clock here Um, well, it's my time. I guess six o'clock eastern time and um Again, I will post this on G2g tomorrow I will post it on discord tomorrow though the link and We'll see what we can do with Haiti if anybody wants to stick around in Kenya Feel free if anybody wants to go back to india ukraine or argentina Feel free and we'll take it from there. Thanks for tuning in everybody