 What's up to the YouTube community? What's up to those of y'all on SoundCloud? All 10 of y'all, I appreciate y'all checking it out. This will continue to grow both on Twitch, live twitch.tv slash dub dot and on YouTube. This podcast will continue to grow thanks to you guys. I appreciate y'all being in the chat. Like I told you many times on this podcast, man, I'll be sitting here during the week. I'll be sitting here, I'll be chilling. And I think to myself all the time chat. And I think to myself, there's nothing to talk about madden. You know, it's kind of dry. Nobody's really playing. There's no tournaments to break down. There's nothing really exciting to talk about. But then like, like manna from heaven, from heaven, they bring the content to me. I don't gotta look far. I don't gotta look far away. I don't gotta search. I don't gotta dig up scraps. I don't have to figure it out. They bring the content to my feet. And I tell myself, let's capitalize. Let's talk about it because a lot of this stuff matters. A lot of stuff matters for me. Matters for you guys. You know, and it's a heated debate on Twitter, probably the last day or so when man, I like it. And I guess I have opinions on it. And I feel like some people were way too far one way and other people were way too far the other way. You know, me and myself, I'm kind of in the middle with this Troy Apke and Moss argument. But we will get to that. Now, what first I wanna do is just as we start this stream. And as we start, let me see my OBS, my OBS right here. So as we start this stream, I just wanna get a few, a few of the, a few of the promotions out of the way, man. Tell you guys about some great things that people reached out to me. We're gonna continue to do. And the number one thing is players lounge, they have a new clan. So the new clan, I wanna say competition this week coming up. I think it, I believe it starts this weekend. And I will continue to talk more and more about this players lounge event. But essentially, I don't know if any of you guys play on players lounge. If you're on YouTube, the link is below. If you're on SoundCloud, man, you can find the link below in my YouTube description. Also, I will put it in the chat right now for you guys that aren't here, that are in the chat. That is the players lounge link right there. That is where you can play for money. You can play for $5, you can play for $20, you can play for $200, you can play for $2,000. However you feel, both on Madden, 2K, Fortnite, whatever you play, whatever you're really good at. You can also join tournaments. Maybe they're $4 to enter and you win $100. Whatever it may be, but they're having a new competition this week coming up. And what they're trying to make and what they think the future of gaming and then competing is more of a clan type of thing. So this upcoming week is gonna be kind of like a crew, be crew thing, but it's more of a clan where you find two other people and together you just calculate your cumulative games and whoever plays the most games will then win an additional $1,500. And you might say, me, myself, when I first heard, I was like, man, I really don't wanna play this many head to head games. I don't wanna have to play a bunch of games. There's gonna be people grinding $10 games all day. Funny you should ask is that the more expensive the game you play, the more points you get to this competition. So what you gotta do is you gotta find two of your friends, sign up for players and I was like, now you guys are a clan, you guys can join this competition. Now on top of that, I will give you guys more information in my streams or my social media coming up in the next couple of days. You cannot get Wellstone Players Lounge. That's what a lot of people ask me. A lot of people that are new to gambling online. There's a lot of support systems. And at the end of the day, what happens is when you sign up for Players Lounge, you put your gamertag on, you have to play on that gamertag. Say I put my gamertag on dub.w, my gamertag is dub.w, all right? So say I'm losing a game to Joey Chestnut, right? And Joey Chestnut, and I quit and say, I didn't even play that game. Now all Joey Chestnut does is have to take a picture of him beating dub.w. My name is up on the top right side of the corner and he can send it to them. They have tons of staff consistently watching over the site to make sure you don't get Welched. You know, and that's pretty much a big question I get all the time, but this is a big competition where you get two people and you try to play as many games as you can for a week span and then you win an extra $1,500 for you and your two buddies. Now, like I said, it's not all about playing the most games, it's about kind of gambling the most money. You know, but I will plug you guys in with more details on this Players Lounge event in the future. So if you're not following me on social media, man, you should be doing that now. And like I said, all these descriptions are in the YouTube description below. Yeah, that's how it goes. But now let's go on to another thing that I'm really doing my best to get really popping. And that's the Eagles game tournament. Every Eagles game we have a $1,000 tournament before the game at the tailgate. Now, I know you guys are a lot of NFL fans. I'm an NFL fan. And when you go to the game, you don't get there 10 minutes before the game starts. You get there five hours before the game starts because one, you're gonna cook your food, you're gonna drink your beer, you're gonna chill with your people, hang out, get ready for the game. That's tailgating. And what we're bringing to you is a Madden tournament within this tailgate. At the tailgate, in the middle of the tailgate, a $1,000 Madden tournament, a regular tournament. People ask for these things all the time. So you get an opportunity to mix the Eagles tailgate and with some John Madden football is always a good thing. Now, we've had two of these so far. Gare's won the first one. I believe Joke won the second one. This is gonna be the third one. And what my biggest goal is, what my biggest goal is, is to eventually get these. When we have a 415 game or we even have a Sunday night game, maybe get this to a 5K pot and let 32 people join or 64 people join. It's just a matter of you guys supporting these. And I believe we did have a full house to the first two tournaments, 16 people. Only 16 people can sign up. So this is right here. You can hit that link right there and sign up right now for the Eagles game tournament and have the ability to play in that tournament before the game. Price starts around 10 o'clock. If you're new to the Eagles tailgate, man, you wanna get there, plan to get there an hour earlier than you have to be because there's a lot of traffic. It's super busy down there. It's a super good time. Whether you wanna play in it or not, if you wanna check it out, if you're already down there for the tailgate, already down there for the Eagles game, I will be there. Couple of my buddies will be there. I believe my girl will be there too as well this weekend. You know, I plan on going to the game. My buddy hit me up and said, let's go to the game. I said, yes. Then I looked at the schedule and it's the weekend my girl's gonna be here. And I was kind of pissed off about that. And why? Because now going to the Eagles game is gonna cost me double. Not only am I about to pay for my $200 ticket, now I have to pay for her $200 ticket. Not only am I about to buy my $15 beer, now I have to buy her $15 beer. So every expense that I had is now doubled, which is part of being in a relationship. It kind of sucks. And I hope some of you guys know what that's like. A lot of you guys don't. But it is something that we're gonna continue to grow and make before Eagles games tournament something real. And I appreciate all the support I've already gotten from a lot of the man community and other people in the, you know, once you're called, in the Madden Hemisphere, so to say. I mean, it's not about being whipped. It's about, you know, if your girl's gonna be here for the weekend, you're not going to the Eagles game by yourself. You're not gonna say, chick, stay home, you know what I'm saying? Like you wanna bring your girl. At the end of the day, I want her to come. But it's just gonna make, you know, going to a game, this is what it's about. Going to a game with the females is different than going to the movies or going out to dinner. A game is expensive. Like that shit's not a joke. Like you're not just gonna go down there like, no. You know, I like, when I go by myself, it's kind of easy cause you buy one ticket, you know, you wanna spend 200, you wanna spend 300, you wanna spend, you know, 100 and get, you know, the bleeds, that's cool. But now when your girl comes one, you can't put your girl on the bleeds. I mean, you can, and I can now cause we're pretty far established. Like if it was their first couple of dates, you wanna try to show her you're the man and you don't wanna put her in the bleeds. But we're pretty well established. So if I wanna sit in the bleeds, we're sitting in the bleeds. You know, but yeah, it definitely doubles up your price. And I've gone to Eagles games with females probably four or five times. Definitely expensive date. A Sixers game is a lot more manageable where you can go ahead and spend 150 bucks, you know, and get two people in there. But let's move on. Now that's where the two things that I'm really excited about to bring you guys. And now let's talk about what's going on now, man. People are here on Twitter all day. Man is dead. We hate Madden. Now, there's 200 people in the chat. 248 total set. Let me know if you guys hate Madden. Do you feel like Madden is dead? Cause personally, I mean, I don't know if I feel that way. And I feel like there's some things that are different this year than they are in the past to kind of make it feel like it's dead, you know? And personally for me, I feel like all my stuff is doing as well as it has ever done. This is the most subs I ever had on Twitch. This is the most viewers I consistently get. There was 150 people in the podcast before I even started talking. So as far as me personally, this is the best Madden has ever been, you know? As far as my content and as far as they're going on, I can't say the same for everybody else. I can't say the same for the game in general. You guys might hate the game, you know? And that's cool. But for me personally, I feel like this, all this stuff is continually growing every single day. So I don't think Madden is dead. I will always think Madden is better than 2K. And a lot of people complain about the run game and it's gotta be some of y'all in here that are running, you know? You know? The best cards cost way too much and I hate the way the game is played. Now, I will tell you this right now. I kinda, the best cards do cost a lot. You know, and Madden does cost a lot to play, you know? But at the same time, when I say that, you know, as my OBS gets full screen here and we're like, everything's freaking out. What is going on? Why can't we not get rid of my full screen? All right, we got rid of it. Jesus Christ, my OBS just went full screen out of nowhere and I couldn't like make it, it took up my whole freaked out. I thought my computer was gonna blow up. By the way, it might cost too much, you know? And I'll tell you, at the same time, it might cost a lot. And I might be speaking for myself as somebody that can win 90, 95% of every single game I play. I feel like Madden, I can play the game and not have to spend a lot of money. Now, a lot of you guys might not be as good as me and that's not capping, that's not, you know, just is what it is. So maybe you guys aren't winning a 90% clip so you're not breaking in all these coins. Like, Weekend League, I just made, you know, a million coins each Weekend League, I make a million coins. You know, each season I make 150K, you know? So for me, I feel like the game gives you back a lot for playing it. You know, and I feel like as much as it costs so much, it does, you know, and it sucks, but it is an investment as far as, you know, and for me, I'm not a casual player. Now, this is my profession. So for me, it is an investment. So as far as the money aspect of it, I have completely accepted it, but I am way different than you guys and I understand that, you know? And honestly, Squads also gives you some coins. You know, everything gives you coins, you know? I really do feel like coins definitely are there. If you play the game, you can get some coins, you know? And like I said, as far as Twitch, I mean, this is the most successful I have been, most successful a lot of people have been. So all in all, I think it's pretty good and a lot of things with the Twitch channels, let's be honest, as far as man on Twitch, there's probably five, six, seven, eight Twitch streamers that have any, that stream mad that have any type of decent follow, right? Twitch, can we agree with that? You gotta go, obviously, problem, gut fox, myself, and you a clef, and then you can go after that, maybe you a Joel, when Joel streamed man, I feel like he hasn't been streaming man as much. I don't know who else you got, K-Mac and Henry, yeah. But even those guys, I feel like they haven't been, you know what I'm saying? And you wanna go Boogs. I mean, but these are people that consistently can get over 200 people watching. Let's say people that can consistently, if they boot up their channel right now, they're gonna get over 200 people in the first hour. You know, that's what I'm saying, boom. That's what I wanna know. And those are the people you gotta put up there. Okay, so let's just say all these people. So let's say, all right, for the sake of it, let's say there's eight, right? There's eight. Outside of those eight is not much. So when those eight people aren't on, you know, it's gonna be bleak as hell. You know, and just think about, and you can compare that to anything. We can talk about Fortnite, as I see T-Fu is streaming right now, right? If you take the top eight people from said game and remove them, I would agree that probably 80% of the viewership is gone. You know what I'm saying? You know, and so that's why it's hard to judge men when all these people aren't streaming. And at the same time, if you had all top 10 man streamers on streaming man at once, now you're looking at 3,000 views. You're looking at 4,000 views or something like that. You know, so to make statements on what Twitch looks like when eight, the top eight to 10 people aren't streaming is that that's very bland, you know? And I don't know who is hiding from the tournament. I don't know, I've never been that type of person. I've always thought this was bigger than the tournament. Not always, but the older I get, the bigger, the wider my eyes get, I've always felt like your content and what you're building is bigger than this said tournament. You know, because you can hide, you can hide for six months, cooking up the best thing and you can lose in the first round. But if you're consistently grinding deep this content and your interaction with people watching you, that's never gonna go away. You know, you being good at Madden or you being good at this month or you winning this tournament, that could go away. It could end tomorrow. It could end in an hour, honestly. So for me, people hiding, I feel that that's the wrong mistake. And somebody like Problem can afford to do that because he's already established so much, you know? But like I said, I don't think Madden is dead. I don't think, like I said, I tweeted about two hours ago. I don't hate the game as much as y'all. I really don't. I don't like it. It's not that much fun, but I don't hate it as much as some of you guys hate it. You know? And he asked me in the chat, what do I think needs to be fixed or adjusted? I honestly, I really just think is to pursuit the pursuit and the fact that my defenders trip and fall and just every little bump they take is drastically affects where they go. Whereas in the offense, you know, that doesn't happen for offensive players. It is a drastic disadvantage for the defense that they consistently trip and fall, stumble over each other, take the bad angle, go the wrong way, shit like that. And then the offense doesn't. I think that's the biggest problem with the game. I think the run is good. I don't think the run is dominant. I think if the pursuit was tweaked a little bit better, everybody got a little bit smarter. Everybody got a little bit better. Would like a little bit better sheds on the run. I wish there was like a run shed. Said it was like a run shed defensive camp. Maybe it would cost 10 cap, you know, and this guy shed every time. Maybe if you're caught, to get somebody shed every time instantly, maybe that should cost, you know, 35 cap, just like Ralph Special or anything. So if you wanted to stop the run, you could put it on your two outside linebackers and let them shed right away, you know? That'd be pretty cool. But I just, all in all, I think it's the pursuit. I don't think the abilities are killing the game. I don't think it's the abilities at all. I really don't. I think they're pretty good. I think they're pretty cool. I think they made the game exciting if the pursuit was better. And the fact, the biggest thing for me is that offense and defense trips all over them fucking cells and offense can run freely without worrying about tripping, you know? And NVMe says, how about the elite players shed because they got high blocks? I feel like that happens to an extent, really. I don't think the run is that dominant. I think if the pursuit was better, you know, and I definitely don't think, I definitely don't think the run-back abilities are, just all the game sucks because the run-back abilities, yeah, they're good. But we said this, I don't know how many times we talked about this on the, on the podcast, we talked about all the time. I mean, Ezekiel is just stiff on the corner, you know? He shouldn't lift the linebacker up off of his shoes, but he should break a couple tackles here and there. He's one of the best run-backs in the league, right? Bo Jackson's one of the best run-backs ever. He should truck some fucking body. I mean, come on, Chad, like, yeah. But like I said, man, that we get into the same thing about man all the time. I don't think it's good. I just think, one thing about switching man, I feel like everybody that streams man, myself included, is fairly new to Twitch, you know? Like I've been partnered for Twitch for a little over two years. Problem is probably around five years, you know? And some of these, like we talked about Dr. Disrespect and T4, these people I'm looking at, these people have been on Twitch for seven, eight years, you know, really grinding streams and building a following. So it takes years until you really become super established streamers where you make it a career. And it happens slowly. It's not gonna happen overnight, especially in Madden when it's already a small, you know, a small community. So it's never really gonna be great on Twitch because a lot of the people that had Twitch accounts or had Twitch followings aren't streaming as well. Most everybody that streams Twitch is relatively new. You know, they're not necessarily the most, they have been around for seven, eight years. You know, so I don't think Twitch will ever, I think it's only gonna get better. As long as these top people that we just talked about always continue to get, to continue to stay at it and stay with it every year will get better and better. And that's how I felt for myself personally streaming on Twitch, you know, I feel like it's get better and better. But that's how I was just once about Madden is dead. And now we gotta get to the meat and potatoes. You know, it was a lot of things talked about on Twitter throughout the last 30 hours or something, you know, and I appreciate you guys coming by and it's something I wanna talk about. You know, you know, Players Lounge is having a clan, they're having like a clan competition next week. You know, you and two buddies, y'all go ahead and play as not the most games, but each game, and I'll show you guys, I gotta take me a minute to, I got texted this picture. And each game is one, if you play a $100 game, you know, that's gonna be worth 50 points. If you play a $5 game, it'll be worth one point. You know, and you and your two buddies are three people who ever gets the most points throughout this week is gonna win an additional $1,500. Is Beesmo scared of Moe? Now, that's a question I gotta ask. My man Kobo in the chest says is Beesmo scared of Moe? Or how Beesmo is scared of Moe? Listen, I'll tell you something. You should never be afraid of a Madden player. Worst thing that's gonna happen is you're gonna lose a game of Madden. Who gives a shit? It sucks. Say, well, I mean, I mean, it's part of the game. I don't know, I don't know what to tell you. All right, but anyway, hold on, wait, did Beesmo really go to the Rams? Did that happen, Kobo? No, it didn't stop it. All right, but anyway, I don't want to talk about Beesmo and what club he deserves to go to. That's pretty wild. Did somebody, Beesmo went to the Rams? I wouldn't be scared of Moe. I wouldn't be scared of anybody. Listen, me myself, I am a super fan. I really am, you know, and I will always pick the, if I'm going closer to that, I will always pick the Eagles. I don't care, Problems, Skimball, Kiv, Journey, Henry, Joel, whoever the fuck ever. Ghosts, joke, they're all in the Eagles, I'm picking the Eagles. It's not even a thought for me because I'm just a super fan. Like I really am, dude, I couldn't, I'm a loser, I really am. I'm a Philadelphia loser. I will always pick the Eagles. You know, that's just me. Some people are so worried about, if Comfy, Jake, I'm gonna be real. Comfy, if he went to the Eagles, I might go to the Cowboys. No, but for all, I would always pick the same, you know. And I feel like some people amongst us, 50 man players, like the elite man players, I think you get to a point where people, you know, it's pretty well established. That's their club. You know, and I haven't established that, but anything Figgy has established that. So people can go to any club. They want really, you know, and it's cool. I mean, as far as ducking people and all that, I mean, ultimately the goal is to win the tournament, you know, and if that's not your goal to begin with, you know, and I don't really know how to explain it. I'm just literally gonna, I'm literally gonna go ahead and pick the same one every single time. But let's get on to the api stuff. I'm in a king in the building. There he is, my guy. King, you know what's all I love. You know, I just kept. That's why I see some, a lot of people I cap at and tell them they suck, but they're my guys. You know, I love y'all. It's a man community. I think everybody sucks. I really do. Like Boogs is the fucking worst. He sucks behind the Boogs' ass. You know what I'm saying? That's all. I just know that. And people don't take it serious. It's just kept from just playing. But anyway, let's get to the meat and potatoes chat. Apki versus Moss. This was a heated debate. Now, Troy Apki is a legend. First of all, I want to establish what we're looking at here. Now, I didn't think about doing this, but let's go ahead and do this right here. Now, Apki is a legend in what you call it. Apki is a legend on men. And why is Apki a legend on men? Let me be the first to tell you guys this. Anybody that's tall and fast has been good on men forever. Forever. Forever. They have been. They're always gonna be good. Cause one, so all people get better animations. It happens. That's part of life. Now, you know, that's just gonna happen. You know, and if you haven't been playing Madden long enough to realize that that's gonna happen. Okay, there we go. Oh, let's do this. Here we go, chat. Apki versus Moss. Why they watch, why they're here. Now, listen, Moss is a little bit fast. Now, I'll tell you, Apki's a goon. And why is Apki a goon? Because he's fast and he's tall. All right, chat. That is why he's a goon. So let's go ahead and take a look. We're gonna break this down right now. We have 17 cap versus 60 cap. We have 61 versus six foe, right? We have 92 speed versus 85. Let's not forget that Troy Apki was. Also, before we start this, let's go back to the play just in case you guys forgot the play. We can watch it right here. All right, so here's the play. Now, I wish I would have this play. All right, let's go see it down in the distance. Let's see, all right, it's 411 left in the third quarter. I wanna say at this time the score was, the score was seven to seven. All right, seven to seven and a half time. Boom, he just completed, he just complete, now listen, let's just, let's break down the stats here, chat. Because you know, this is what we do. This is a deep dive into the game of Niner versus Bronco. And all right, kick off. It's the second half now, it's seven to seven. We're in a slobber knocker. My man Bronco does not pass, and that's cool. But he just completed a 39 yard pass to Randy Moss. Boom. So cool. So now we're probably around, well, I don't even know, 40 yards. He might be on his own, wherever the hell he is. So Moss just ran 39 yards. So Moss might be a little tired, chat. Let's not act like that doesn't matter. It might not matter, it might only matter 5%. So Moss is tired. You know, look at the rating, hold on wait. Look at the rating on the play, negative 1,607, the rating. Damn, Niner does a negative 1,600 play for your team, damn. All right, so we got a little 335 action here. We're gonna have the linebackers go out. I don't know what this is. Is Troy Apke the safety? Is he the corner? I honestly, I really don't know, cause it looks like these are the safeties, right? So I'm assuming Troy Apke is the corner. And he's all, first of all, he's 10 yards back, which he should be. He's losing by seven speed. He turns his back. He has, so I'm assuming this is like covered three or this is a quarter. This is the deep, I don't know what the hell Broncos got going on right now. You know, now me, I'll be honest, I might let this bitch go. You know, I might let this thing go right here. I'm always looking for the seam. Now I would, I would bullet to the inside and probably possession catch. Now this guy is throwing a goddamn bowling ball. I don't know who this is. This is Akeman. Is this Akeman throwing a bowling ball, right? I guess it is Akeman. Yeah, so let's hear him. I have Moss maxed out. Now be real. I want Moss to go get this right here, Chad. I'm gonna be honest. I like, listen, I want the ball to be right here, right? And I want Moss to possession catch this bitch get two. I feel like he's beat, he's got him by two yards, a good pass, Randy Moss to go get the ball. And I will be completely honest with y'all. This play that Trey Apke made is fucking nuts. If you think otherwise, I don't know what the hell. Like bro, that's, this is nuts, Chad. I'll be deferred. I don't even feel like this is an aggressive catch. I don't even feel like this is like a one-on-one situation. I legitimately feel like he has him beat to hell right here. Now, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But I feel like right here, he has him beat the shit. Like he's beat, he's beat like, come on, Chad. I don't, but honestly, I don't feel, I feel like if you get a good throw right here, yeah. I don't think it's that bad of a, whether it's late, whether it's late, honestly, I didn't think it was really open until he threw it really. Bro, and Apke, listen, Apke reacts like a fucking idiot, cause Apke's an idiot. He doesn't react at all. And for me, this really, I mean, for Apke to make this play, I think it's fucking nuts. I really do. I really think this play that he made was pretty damn wild. And I don't know why it's not let me play it anymore. Come on, man. Fix this shit. I honestly, I feel like the play that Apke made was pretty nuts. God damn, it's hard to hear a nine and talk. Like right here, chat. No, honestly, right here, does this not look like, does this not look like he could toe tap? Like seriously, if I told y'all before to play, right? Seriously, if I told y'all before to play, whether honestly, whether it's Randy, for me, it's not even about Randy Moss or Apke. I feel like, I honestly feel like, like this is a that. I wouldn't say it's the most amazing read in the world. I wouldn't say it was, you know, it was wide open, but I feel like, I feel like it's not terrible. Apke really can't cover anything but a streak. He really can't. Apke can't, we'll get to Apke, we'll listen, chat, relax. Relax, chat. This is what I want you, listen. Now, to me, this is what I'm saying. I'm gonna get to Apke and I'm gonna get to Moss, but I'm just asking you guys, chat, does this not look like it could be complete? I'm not saying it's the best read. I'm not playing. I don't know why y'all putting twos in the chat. Why who said put twos in the chat? Why are y'all listening to anybody other than me putting twos and ones in the chat? Let's relax with the twos. I didn't say put twos and ones in the chat. YouTube, I didn't say put twos and ones. Now YouTube, I want you guys to tell me, man. Like seriously, like right here, when he do the ball, I'm not, I'm telling you, I'm not feeling this. Cause one, you're like throwing a streak and he's already in the end zone. So yeah, it's a pretty shitty pass. It really is for me personally, right? But at the same time, when he goes to catch it, I feel like, bro, he can definitely get his feet down. That's all I'm saying. Do y'all agree or disagree? I'm not saying he was blind. I'm not saying it was a good read. I'm just saying from right here on the screen with a good throw and just a toe tap, could he not catch this pass? Is my question I'm asking. I'm, this all I'm saying. Could he not catch this? That's all I'm saying. The inside pass lead, okay. I'm not, I'm just all I'm asking. He might've moved him out. He might've got lost. He might've been shitty with his user, but from where I'm at, maybe I mean, dude, right here, it looks like he can catch it. Why should this never be a catch? If the throw is at the, at the nine, at the E and R, it's right here. There's nobody to catch it. Touch it. A kid, that's what I'm saying. If you get a throw between the E and R, right here where I'm fingering, right here, I feel like that could be a touchdown. Why, why aren't I gonna get that pass lead? I, as a man that seems people to fuck up, I feel like yo, you can get a pass wherever it is, even if the ball's right here. Why? So I shouldn't be able to go from here. I shouldn't be able to pass lead him to, all right, we write E and R as far as shit. All right, halfway through the E and R. Yeah, if the pass lead is here, which it probably was, I wish I could see the circle. Now you're right, Chad, we don't see the circle. If we could see the circle, it would help out a lot. So what I'm thinking is maybe Niner moved his asshole way too far to the inside, and that's why he looks so far away from Apke. But from where I'm at, if the pass is at the E, there's a touchdown. But I'm assuming what Niner does here is go too far underneath, that allows Apke to get the animation. The circle, I don't know where the circle is. It looks like the circle would be about right, right where he's catching it, really, at the back of the R right there. Yeah, listen, if we're gonna post clips, and this goes to a lot of you guys, well, get an Elgato and record your games, man. And we gotta agree, Troy Apke, as much as I don't think, I think he could make a play on the ball, he can't be doing shit like this is a little while for Troy Apke, Chad. This is fucking nuts. This is a Pat Tillman, you know, Patrick Peterson type pick, dude. This is pretty nuts. I care about the animation. I mean, I don't understand, like, so in other words, in other words, because he got position on, on, on, because at dinner today, whether you like, whether you want to admit it or not, look, look, Chad. He has inside position right here. He does. All right, Niner, Jesus Christ. The whole way down the field, he does have inside position, right? So what you want, so Chad, this is what you want. Now, this is what you guys want, but a pass lead to the inside, you want Apke to pick that off every time. Is that what y'all telling me? Cause I'm, cause, cause, let, let, listen. This is, this is six. If you put, let's say you put A-Rod and Devonte Adams, or you put Brady and Edelman, this is six. Like this is six. And I also feel like this, I feel like this too, Chad, as a Apke, a person that has used Apke for a long time, a person that's used TJ Green, a person that used Lonnie Ballantyne, a person that used Bumass linebackers. I don't even remember the name, what? Who the hell else was my linebackers? Bumass, like you banks, all these Bumass linebackers. And agree with me on this chat. Now, if Moss would have just mossed the shit out of him and called it aggressive catch for a touchdown, can you be mad at that ever? Can we be mad at that? If you decide to put Apke out when I'm over Moss and he gets mossed, then you know what I'm saying? That then how, how can you be bad at that? This is what we got. This guy got Apke outside corner. I mean, and they say Apke can only guard. I will agree to you this. I've played with these little silvers on defense and they suck dick. So I don't know. I don't know this whole Apke is overpowered thing. This particular play was fucking OD. I will tell you that much, honestly. But if Apke gets mossed, I feel like, man, if Apke gets mossed, I feel like you gotta live with that, you know what I'm saying? Because at some point, I don't think Apke can guard anything. I would try him. You didn't see the play, he just one hand and then Apke, one hand. I can go, listen, I'ma be honest, where the trajectory of the ball is, I'm gonna go ahead and say Niners just had the worst fucking user of all time. Cause the way he catches the ball, I feel like this circle was way back here and Niners just ran in front of him and got mossed and then something. I'd be honest with that. Like I kind of feel like, yeah, Niners kind of fucked this up a little bit. I kind of agree if this was on all pro, Apke would be even worse on all pro and that's one of the reasons they don't really play mud on all pros because they want people to have to buy the cards. They don't want people to be able to put Troy Apke's out there and be okay, you know? I really wanna go ahead and give Niners a little bit of blame for this shitty ass user. And let's go with this. Let's go back with this too. And I asked a Discord full of people I think are very good at mad. I asked them this and we come back as we come back. We got some more, we're gonna go back. We're gonna go back. We're gonna go back to the breakdown of Apke and moss. But I talked to, and you guys can help me because there's a lot of man players in here as well. We're all man players. And listen, and I asked a group full of man players, a good group of man players that I think are very good. I asked them, do you ever see somebody on the field and target that person? And I'll ask you guys to check. If you're playing offense, right? If you're playing, right? You're doing your hot route. So do you say, oh shit, there's this guy. It's not, I don't think it's like real life where you can see, okay, he's got a shitty player there. Let me draw with him every play. Cause as a passer, I never do that. I just figure that guy's in the cloud. He's in the deep blue. This guy's over here. I'm not gonna move, change my whole offense because of one shitty player. So I literally don't do that really. I really don't look at the personnel unless we're talking about man tilman or maybe when it was 91 zone, you gotta pay attention to where the 91 zone was on DC back before everybody had a 91 zone. That's when I really pay attention to where people are. And for me personally, and for me, honestly, it's like I've never been a person. It's not really about finding a good person. We're talking about finding a bad person. Let's find a bad person and throw it at him. That's kind of what we're talking about here as an instance of let me find a bad person and throw a ball at him. Man 16, it didn't matter who the hell the corner was. You were throwing a ball at him. It didn't matter if it was Apke, if it was Dion, if it was Jesus, if it was John the Baptist, if it was Joey Chestnut, you were throwing a ball up to him. That's pretty much what happened. And I don't think there's ever an instance where is that an instance where you look for the bad player? Now if we're talking, okay, and J-Wall said he saw covered three and wants to throw a streak. Now I will be honest, is that really a bad read? If you have Apke on the corner, and let's go back to the comparison, is that really a bad, not necessarily his particular, not his particular situation, because I agree he was a little close for that. But say we're at the 50 yard line, is that really a bad read? Even if Apke is 10 yards off, is that really a bad read? We're talking about 92 speed, I'm assuming 93 speed because of Sprinter. I'm assuming that, and then, oh man, I gotta, I'm just gonna always gotta see this check because y'all kept me, you know what I'm saying? Now, so here we go. Now I wouldn't even say throwing a streak is necessarily aggressive catching him. You could just expect him to get past him because he's that much faster. You know what I'm saying? And we look at this agility, where's jump, 85 jump, isn't, like he's not getting dominated that bad in the physical attributes. He's not, it's not that bad in the physical attributes. Now when we get down here to like the, let's see, spec catch, 54 to 92, okay. Catch in general, where is catch in general? Oh, catch is up here, 53 to 91. I mean, honestly, Chetty's not getting dominated as bad as I thought he would. Zone coverage, 61 zone, 52 tackle, 64 hit power. Apke's really not that bad. Moral of the story, put Apke out there. And I agree that Moss, and let's not say like aggressive catching doesn't happen. It has definitely been toned down, but it's still definitely a part of Madden. And I feel like if you put this 17 cap DB out there, and he throws the ball to Randy Moss and he and Randy Moss mosses him, like Randy Moss did his whole fucking career, like literally just put balls on people's heads. That's what Randy Moss did. They literally call it mossing somebody because of what he did. Okay? Now, this is what I'm saying is that if you put Troy Apke out there and he gets Mossed, how can you be mad? Seriously? Now, I don't think it should be a read, but if it happens, how can you honestly be mad? This is what I'm saying. How can you be upset about that? I don't know what skill is, you know? I feel like, man, and I will tell you, Apke sucks. He sucks, dick. You put him in safety, literally just throw, and you can really throw streaks. If he had better timing, he could literally throw a streak, possession catch it every time. Apke sucks. He's fast, can jump and his 17 cap. That's why he's on anybody's field, but he sucks, period. And we ought to all agree with that because we've all played against him. We've all put him on the field and he sucks. He can blitz, he can kind of tackle, and he's fast enough to run around the field. And in the chat, they say, if you have a shitter like this on the field, you should be able to expose it. And I agree, you can expose it. Just throw anything at him. And honestly, this is what I'll tell you. If you put me in this situation, not that I'm that much better than Niner, I am that much better than Niner, but not that much. God, I'm tired of this. I'm making this play. Me, I'm doing this ball. First of all, this won't be my play. You know, I do a corner route to the sideline, but I'm making this play right here. We're making this happen. Cause one, I'm probably scrambling. I'm making this play happen. Chat, now let me know, I'm making this play happen. You know, but that's just me. You know, he was not so fortunate. He definitely got lost. And I'm starting to believe that it was his user that got him lost, not really Apke and Moss. It really was just his shitty user. Whereas I almost feel like if he just held Y and didn't try to swerve and be fucking cute like he's good, then you know, I think he might catch his pass, you know? I mean, I do think that's a nuts play by Apke from where he, I do think it's kind of fucking nuts. You know, I'm never one for aggressive catching. I think that's super nuts as well. But, you know, no, I think, I think you can go that pass and make it go and catch it. I think, I think there's a place where you can go. Cause honestly, it was just a seam. It was really just a seam streak against cover three and against a real shitty corner, a real shitty zone that's not going to react. So I personally feel like there was a way to throw that and make that caught, you know? And I didn't, I didn't think it was that bad of a read. There was way worse reads than that. Let's relax. You know, let's relax. I didn't think it was the worst read in the world. I thought, I mean, it wasn't the best, but we're not going to act like it was the worst thing ever. We're not going to act like that, you know? I mean, but at the same time, it's not, I don't think it was a shit read. I think you, I think you can complete that pass. If you were to do it at the right time, I think that's a touchdown on the, around the goal line for sure. 1,000% Appie shouldn't, I agree. Appie should not catch picks like that. He shouldn't caught, he shouldn't caught the pick. I'm going to be honest. Now let's be honest. Now let's rewind chat. That's Pat Pete. If that's Willie Brown. If that's Jason Sehorn. If that's Tillman. We all cool with this, right? Chat. We're when everybody is cool. If that's Willie Brown. We're all okay with this, right? Chat. That's how I just want y'all to say, yes, that's fine. Yeah. It's pretty wild. And I'm going to be honest. And so, and one thing about Madden that sucks, you know, and one thing about, and you, a lot of you guys are fucking dumb. All you TNC dudes are fucking little kids. All right. Y'all haven't played a man where like, you got abused by a wide receiver. You know what I'm saying? You didn't get spec card. You didn't get rocket card. I don't even know if y'all got swerves. You know what I'm saying? So Madden has always been, and at some point we, y'all want, y'all want this shit to be super like, y'all want the same shit every time. At what point is this real football? Cause we like Randy Moss literally did that shit his whole career. And it's the best wide receiver ever because he literally just throw me the ball. I'm going to catch it. So at what point does that part of football, which is a huge part of football, using a big body receiver to moss somebody, to beat somebody even when they're not open is a huge part of football. Now I agree when it was just hold, when I was just hold, why is ass? That shit is terrible. But when there was rocket catching, when there was swerving, even spec catch, you know, spec catch was easy as shit. But those, there's no way in this game, and you agree with this read, there's no way in this game to use spec catch or a tall receiver like none. And that's such a huge part of football. And it's literally not mad at all. How do y'all feel about that? Cause I feel like between the swerve and rocket catching in my life, the big receiver had a place. Now it's like, it's irrelevant. You know, Tyree Kill has been the best Y receiver in Madden, what, last year at least. You know, and I feel like they're all the same. And at some point, and at some point in real life, yeah, just to hold Y stuff is terrible. Yeah, you used to have to time it the right way, move your player the right way and get a good catch. And there was some way to get that. It'd be awesome. But right now the way the game is, it's pretty ass. But in real life like this, in real life, if you left Moss one-on-one inside the 10 yard line, that was bad defense. That was worse than, you know, that was bad. You can't leave Moss one-on-one. You know, so at what point does that, does that play any aspect into Madden? Because that's the crazy part to me is that at some point, these big, big body, great receivers need to play some type of, they had to play some type of role. And I'm 1,000% against holding Y and letting them do it themselves. You gotta bring back some type of user catch, some type of an ability to have these big body receivers do something, you know? Johnny, it's not really about this game, it's just about Madden in general. And that's one reason we talked about, we talked about Twitter today, we talked about Madden 17. And the Swerve was one of the best things ever for Madden. Cause if I played Joey Chestnut, if I whipped his ass, I'm gonna beat him by 50 points cause I have so much more user than him. You know what I'm saying? I think the catching buttons are great, but I think they just way too easy to do it, if that makes sense. You, what's the word? All right, soul chat. Right now we have Kiv, average man player. We have Taylor Gang, even less average man player. And one, Taylor Gang is things you should be able to Moss people. And Kiv thinks he's not. Now, Taylor Gang asks you, why should you think you should be able to Moss people? You hear them, y'all was it? What, what the fuck? Hold on, hold on, hold on. All right, Taylor Gang, I have fucking streamed before, bro. I appreciate the, I appreciate the advice. Jesus Christ. Yeah, B was a touchdown, I mean. How to, all right, say something. Say chat. Yeah, they can hear us. How you know? You literally didn't say nothing, you just say you can hear it. I just, yeah, I just unmuted in the back. All right, we get on. So all right, Taylor Gang, you think you should be able to Moss people? Go. Not all people, but shitter cars like Troy Api. Yes, because why is Moss that much cap if he can't? And like I was saying, Jay Wall said he's that much cap because he's the fastest receiver in the game. He has very high route running. Well, where are the other 30 stats that are down there, 92, 93s? Like when do they come into play? Because you should be punished for having a shitter on the field sometime. Not all the time. Because I feel like Api sucks. And I feel like even that pass, I feel like if he timed it better than do it right, he could have caught a touchdown. That's all. Yeah, the pass lead was shitty. He was too far deep in the pocket. That's why he had the bowling ball wind up. A lot of shitty things about that play, but the read isn't one of them given the cards that are on the field. When is 17 versus 60 gonna matter? Ever. Can I, can I go now? Yes, Kim, what do you think? I think it should be a pick or an incompletion every time. You don't think Mawsever catches that thing? Honestly, no matter the player. And Apki? No, because it's not open. If it was open, then yes, he should catch it. Like he could get a rack ag or something like that. That wasn't open, and I just threw that shit blindly, tried to ag it because he knew it was a bad read and then got mad because Apki picked it off. But there's a, in Madden, you can't have everything be realistic, otherwise shit, because in Madden, not everything is skillful. Not at all. Throwing something up and just hitting triangle because you have the best receiver in the game versus fucking shitty DB, that's not skill at all. Just like running the ball and tapping A with Zeke isn't skill. Yes, Zeke break tackles in real life, but it's not skill to do that. That's true. There's a fine line between what's like shit that's realistic and shit that can be in Madden because there's 11 players on the field. You can't control all 11. You can control one. So when you add stuff to the game that like one-on-one interactions and stuff like that and animations and stuff that just requires attributes and stuff like that. And like, if I spent $300 on this player, I want to be able to ag the fucking 80 overall or the 70 overall that he has. That's when you get the Madden 16 situation where you have fucking the three best receivers in the game and you just throw it up one-on-one depending on if they're one-on-one or whatever. Because- It's a short, no. Like I said, big receivers are a big part of football. They are. Like that shit matters. The Alshan Jeffries, the Mike Evans, the Randy Moss, Terral Lones, these dudes, that shit is part of football. It's a huge part. At what point- I agree, but there's nothing, there's no, they have no way to make it skill-based so it shouldn't be a thing. I feel like they gotta figure out how to do that because there's really no, there's- Well, I mean, there was swerve, but you could do swerve. It's just man, bro. You can't have shit like that in man. It has to be. Now we have to realize that it has to be a football simulation. I would be fine with swerve being in the game. Because- I was fine with swerve because it took skill to do swerve, but it didn't matter about attributes. I feel like if Moss can cast that over Apke, then maybe Mike becomes strategy-based. Why is Apke on- Okay, but then where does the line end? Like, then you go up to now, I have my 99 overall receiver. Why is he not aggressive catching this 80 overall core? I mean, it should definitely be- That's true. It should be ratings-based, you know? I feel like, man- I don't agree because we're playing Sari Cap. You're not able to fit. If we're playing Mutt, it's different. Well, Mutt, you'd never have this. The best flair. Well, yeah, I agree. But when you're asking for these type of things, you get man 16. You get- Cause- No, man 16 was too wild. But- Yeah, that's what I'm saying, D. Like, but it's not a bad read in real football to throw the shit off. Not at all. And it's a good read. Yeah, it is. They would throw it on the side. There's nothing in the game that's skillful for you to get an aggressive catch. You can set your DBs to overall. Don't have- You can set them to overall. Why is that in the game, then, I mean? You're not gonna be able to have the four best DBs in the game. And just because you have the four best receivers doesn't mean you should have the aggressive catch me every single time because you've got four better ratings. Well, if they have the four best receivers in the game, aren't they hurting somewhere else? That's true. There is others that you can attack after. Every other route you can attack after you. There's literally not one route that he can cover besides like a flat route. I feel like he's not covering the street guard at night or just so. That's true. He's not covering any route. He's not covering a man covered. Like the only thing he'll cover is a flat or a fucking one-on-one aggressive catch. Yeah, I just, man. Like I said, it has to be a way to use these big receivers. And obviously it's not in the game. Like you said, it's not in the game. I feel like they still are good because they're tall. I feel like the passes are different to tall receivers. I feel like they can reach for passes, reach further away from DBs. Little sirs benefits. And a bigger receiver's bully the smaller corners to like releases and stuff like that. Like there's benefits to having the best receiver in the game. Otherwise I wouldn't use. I use the best receivers in the game every year. If it wasn't good, I would fucking just use the shitters. But they are good. Yeah, for sure. I just, I just feel like. Competitive, man. Man has to be football at some point. Man will always be football. Cause it's much, all right. There's 400 people in here. This is about the only 400 that give a fuck about competitive man. Let's just call that what it is. And there's what? 40,000 other people that play man that just want to play football. You know, so yeah, they want to say, so it's always going to be a part of y'all got to get over that shit. You know what I'm saying? Like. If y'all can arm bar, most should be over the most. It's fine with there. If you, it was still like if you had swerve in the game, I would find you being in with swerve and sort of. But there's nothing, there's the right now, there's nothing in the game that you can just throw the streak on that. And yes, there's something in the game. You know, there's no skill to arm bar either. And like, like if you could arm, but you can, you just got to get double me activated, bro. That's all you got to do. And you can master shit out of people. So I mean, listen, it is in the game. If you get double me, you got to double the receiver. You know, imagine if double me was like arm bar, just a ability, double me every play. I'm telling you, they thought about it. They thought about it out there. That's how man 16 was. So like that's how man 19. You saw how fucking bad that game was fucking. Stiff in the final. I mean, we should have met it and they do because Api does suck, but they're in a day, man. If he's he can't cover anything. And I put them 10 caps. I tried to play with all silvers on defense. It was bad. It was really there's a no huge difference between Api and like someone like Darius Lay. 1,000%. So for me, I do feel like they got to find a way to use these big receivers. And honestly, I want to tell them not to, cause if they do say, say man 21 comes out and they have a new big wide receiver feature, it's probably going to suck. It's probably going to be terrible. It's probably going to be the worst, you know, but as far as I'm man, this is back. Big receivers used to be done. Big bum ass receivers, Malcolm Floyd, Finnerin. I remember I use Leonard Pope, the big six, eight tight end on the Cardinals. And it adds to skill gap when you have something like that in the game. Oh yeah. Because you can blow people out. Because people with a shitty stick. Yeah. And people with just not good singer. Yeah, they care. Okay. Do you think if that Moss had red zone threat or street specialist that he should have caught that ball? No, because I don't, I don't agree with also the, you adding an ability to something to just make it like overpowered either, because how am I supposed to like, I'm not getting into a game. And now I'm like fucked on defense because you have street specialist and the best Randy Moss or whatever. Like I don't agree with abilities making like that big of a difference. Like I like, I don't, I don't really like the ability is this year, but I like the ability is like in man 18 man 17, where you had these abilities that just made your player a little bit better, not made them like into fucking Jesus. That's how it is now. You're adding an ability to player. And the people without them are, they did a peasants in the streets. They were peasants in the streets. You put a star on somebody's feet, they're tough. If not peasants in the streets. True story. But for sure, man. But listen, I appreciate y'all putting your input as always. I appreciate it. Y'all are the ones that made this, I'm saying that y'all always. See, I don't like, because everybody won't come on, I'm saying. So I like to keep a few certain people, I'm saying. So I appreciate y'all coming in, putting in y'all input. That is young kid, the 19 champion, what the hell did you win? Man 18? Man 18, no, yeah, that was, yeah, yeah. They feel old, they don't start feeling old now. Like that should be bad. They'd be like, we're out of like, stop talking about it. And people always talking about that shit, man. I'd be like, nah, that's shit over. I'm stiff now. You know what I'm saying? No, just trying to stay above. This is my question. No, are you playing 2K tonight? What's up? No, that's another game sends their account. No, see, that's, I don't know. Bro, I can't use Dreamies account. That shit is ass. Yes, it's the worst player ever. You still ain't got any account. Literally the worst player. Oh, you are fine. Accounting by, they taxing? No. Bro, it'd be these little, it'd be the 10 followers. They try good to. Get that account back, right? Like, super easy. Yeah, like this dude tried to sell me an account for 250. And I looked it up and like, it's so easy to just get the account back. And I'm like, yeah, fuck that's right. Taylor didn't go to send that account, bro. He's got the, he's got the player I use on PS4. I don't know, man. My man's trying my knee to run. He was next up and then one night we needed him. He was like, nah, you know, I got to study film on that and he ain't wanna play. So, you know what I'm saying? Bro, he's got, he's got, he's got a fucking girlfriend, baby on the way. Man, bro. Nah, I gotta get that man shut up, man. Let me get the 2K, let me get the 2K. Thanks. My boy Taylor. But all right, well, I'll talk to the other, so we won't figure this 2K shit out. Yeah. All right, but. That is young kid, talking about aggressive, pretty much this came down to aggressive catch. You know, and one thing that makes me mad about aggressive catch, man, is that you really can't use it in the red zone at all. You know, I can't come out on iPhone tight and door fade. You know, should that be part of man? Honestly, chat, chat, and I'm gonna ask you guys that. Should there be anything where you have to double team Calvin Johnson? If I'm out, if I got Calvin Johnson, should you have to double team him? But that's, I just, you know, I feel like, yeah, I feel like there's no hold. And how about this? Maybe, I don't know what, now, you're right, with the way it's set up now, it shouldn't be in the game at all. You know, in the way it's set up now, and how easy it is, it really, it shouldn't be in the game. It's kinda ass. But I feel like one, now we talk about that whole, just the whole catch it, X, Y, and A, I think is really good. One, I think it's too easy. You know, holding the button is, and I even talk, and people tell me they spam the button, they just tap A a million times. On PS2, it used to be, if you didn't hit it the right time, your receiver would just go like this, and the ball would go over his head, or he'd get picked off, or he wouldn't go for it. Like if you hit Y early, he would just, and it's just winning the ball. So there was a lot more timing to it. Now, at the same time, I feel like everybody that's good will be able to do that. So I don't think it would make that big a difference. But I think at some point, I think at some point, guitar solo hero, ag battle, so we're just all pressing button. No, I wouldn't want that. Now you little fucking 16 year olds have beat me at guitar hero, aggressive catch battles. Does anybody remember a fight for the fumble? Fight for the fumble had everybody like this. Elbow up like this. Whole shit hurting, hoes just stiff as hell. Hell no. You had to get up on your seat, elbow up. Face like this. Nobody wanna do that. God damn, y'all wanna do that skill gap. Yeah, Wesley not losing that shit. His little nerd ass, he's like, see, Wesley's such a nerd. He wouldn't even like move. He would just still be like this, beating everybody and fight for the fumble. I got my program controller. If I go A, A, A and hold it, it just automatically does it for me. Like, what the hell? Yo, I can't lie. No, fight for the fumble on like the main stage would be crazy. RG be like, oh my God, it's a fight. It's a fight. Everybody just up there like, who's gonna win it? Who's gonna win it? It's coming down to the buttons. Y'all, that shit would be crazy. Yo, that was nuts, man. He just, bruh, that shit is funny. Oh, Apki does play ball in the air, aggressive. That could pop Pro-M3s. That would be crazy, MCS. Woo, you playing? What position are you playing? Oh, Kwani here, damn. Woo, you wanna play guard? Woo, you got a guard, Woo? See, tell me you got a guard and you on a team. But anyway, chat, we just talk about aggressive because YouTube, you guys can tell me, man, do you think you should be able to throw the ball up to Randy Moss, like one-on-one and just hold Y? Or, and this is why we talked about this on, what's your name called? We talked about this on Twitter today about Man 17. People didn't like Man 17 because of the swerve. And little do you guys know, so the swerve was like the best thing they ever put in Man. Cause the swerve, if you went in the mud head to head, like I beat somebody by 50 because they don't have any user, you know? And that was one of the best things ever, man, for somebody like me, for somebody that's that good at the game and I could stop it and do it, it was one of the best things ever, you know? So I think there has to be a way, there has to be a way to use these big receivers. Now they don't really have it now in the game where it works, you know? So we'll figure it out one way or the other. But I said, I mean, let me know what you think, man. Should you be able to moss people? Should Appgir caught that pick on moss? Was that a good read? Let's see pretty much how it goes. You guys let me know, YouTube. Do you think you should catch passes like that? I didn't think it was the worst throw. I think one, like I said, if you put me out there, I'm making that play. I'm a little bit more advanced than Niner, but I didn't think it was that terrible. Some of these kids think the throw was terrible. I thought it was, it wasn't good, but it wasn't the worst in the world. The play Appgir made, I personally thought was pretty damn wild. But it is the only thing you can cover, man. Those silvers are terrible, and I feel like you can throw any route at them underneath their face, over their head, next to them, wherever you want to throw the ball, you can catch it on them, and right there, Appgir made a play. And I do want to put most of blame on Niner for being shitty, but, there we go. But, and that's how it is. This wasn't the needed podcast. This was episode 49. Like I said, Players Lounge next week is when I have a challenge. You get two people, the three of you guys are a clan, whoever plays the most games amongst the clans wins an extra $1,500. I will get more details on you for that. If you're not following me on social media, do that. Also, you can check all these podcasts out live. It is Wednesday. Normally I do this on Tuesday night. Then it's Wednesday because I had to find out more information about the Players Lounge event. Had to get the link for the Madden tournament. I put that in the chat already for you guys. If you want to come out Sunday, play some Madden before the Eagles game to win $1,000 is definitely the move. But this wasn't the needed podcast. This was episode 49, chat. We are closing in on the year anniversary of the needed podcast. I want some suggestions in the YouTube. What should I do for a year? It's been a year of these goddamn shows. It's been a year about talking about Madden, and you guys have been supporting it from the beginning. So I want some ideas on what we should do for 1,000 episodes. I would bring Seawool on, but he does not leave the house. So for me, it's going to be tough to do that. So don't suggest bringing Seawool on. Go do a show at Seawool's house. And that's really not an option. But come up with some ideas for me. Until then, I will see you guys soon.