 two o'clock I think actually we can start dear colleagues because we have a packed agenda today ahead of us very interesting so again good morning and good afternoon evening wherever you are joining us from today and welcome to today's webinar on the call to action for human rights and what are the links to the humanitarian program cycle especially focusing on the aspects linked to analysis and this is a very important topic for all of us practitioners I would say because as you know the call to action has been launched just two years ago we will celebrate in February its second anniversary and it has created a momentum a momentum for all of us for UN entities but also for NGOs protection clusters for the system as a whole to advance on the front of human rights and move forward collectively and this is why we are here today we are here to discuss what it means in practice how we can go about it we will hear several examples from different regions continents and I believe it will be quite inspirational for all of us where we can take it and how we can advance in regards to implementation of the secret originals call to action for human rights and the links to humanitarian analysis programming and analysis I'm also very pleased actually to share with you that this is not a standalone initiative along with the global protection cluster information working group we are planning to have a series of events around the secret originals call to action for human rights and this is the first one of this series and you may be wondering why have we chosen to focus on analysis or the links with the humanitarian program cycle and there is a practical reason for that because in the last few months we have been receiving from you questions from the field asking okay now we are going through the HNOs HRPs through path and other analysis exercise what does it mean for us how do we apply the call to action throughout those processes so I hope some of your maybe most of you have seen also the two-pager we have published few weeks ago and I would like to ask my colleague Peter if you can please post a link to it in the chat where we have tried very briefly to make the connections for you between the call to action for human rights humanitarian program cycle related processes with specific focus on analysis so you can look forward to other events that will be coming your way in the upcoming weeks and months but I believe already today we have a very interesting agenda ahead of us a program but before I will present you who are our today's panelists I would like to give the floor to our dear colleague Dina Abou Sambra from OCHA to share with us her insight and perspectives why this discussion is important from OCHA's perspective and why it goes even beyond entities and protection clusters so over to you Dina please. Thank you Valerie and I just also want to join you in welcoming the panel and everyone else online in today's exchange it's exciting to see everyone's introductions from many different parts of the world and I wanted to share just a few brief observations by way of introduction to frame our discussion so first just to know that the discussion today will showcase some examples of how the protection cluster is more systematically using human rights analysis and information as part of our overall protection analysis but also in you know within the human humanitarian program cycle processes but as Valerie has noted this will be the first in a series of webinars on the topic and we do hope to hold a future event to also focus on other sector perspectives and bringing in other actors as well. In the meantime there may be some other cluster colleagues online today and we would encourage you to share inputs during the question and answer exchange after the panel. Related to this I just wanted to underline that the humanitarian program cycle 2022 facilitation package which many of you may be aware of and have tried to unpack because it's a huge thing but it does highlight the call to action as a key reference point for needs assessment and response planning and this obviously goes beyond the protection cluster it points to the responsibility of all sectors to ensure that the rights of persons affected by an armed conflict or disaster are taken into account in needs assessment and in turn addressed also in the overall humanitarian response. In this regard the call to action really provides an opportunity for all of us to reinforce our collective assessments analysis planning and monitoring as well as the partners involved in all of these processes and today we'll hear some ideas from for practically how this can work from a couple of contexts including through closer collaboration and drawing on the expertise of human rights advisors and OHCHR presences by waiving increased engagement with human rights organizations and mechanisms which allow us to benefit from the often detailed monitoring and reporting on human rights violations and robust information and recommendations that they produce by drawing on and incorporating human rights analysis tools and approaches in our assessment and analysis frameworks and lastly I think it's worth pointing to you know having more robust human rights analysis also provides a crucial basis for us to establish stronger links and influence the agendas and planning frameworks of other key actors and obviously development and peace actors in particular. So just in closing I don't want to take more time I just wanted to leave you with a key question that we do want to explore with you today which is you know I've been trying to think of it I think in some way it's you know how can we be more intentional in incorporating human rights into our processes approaches and in our partnerships. So with that I will just hand back to Valerie and to our panel thank you. Thank you so much Dina for those reflections and also I really like what you just said how can we be more intentional about the human rights approach and how do we be a bit more strategically and systematically into our work so I would say this is the chapel of our event today and with that colleagues maybe very briefly on the ground rules you know them very well as usual we have to get about an hour and a half so after the panel we will have a space to exchange so please use the chat function to post your questions we will be recording this webinar for those who cannot join. If you can remain on mute if you would like to intervene you can raise your hand and you can be sharing your examples questions throughout the event so even as of now if you have any reflections questions we will be monitoring it continuously. Very good so I have the pleasure now to share with you who are our panelists today and you see them also on the screen and we will start with an opening and presentation by Svetamadhurik Kanan who is working in the executive office of the secretary channel and who will share with us some insight on the call to action and links to humanitarian interventions to frame our discussion. After that we will have a chance to hear from colleagues in the field as you can see a very nice variety of operations firstly from Katlin Gerstrundt who is the protection cluster coordinator West Bank and will share with us some insight and experience from the OPT protection cluster and then we will shift to the whole of Syria response and we are lucky to have two colleagues who will share with us their experience and good practices first of all Samir Saran the protection cluster call a colleague for a whole of Syria response but also Elsa Le Penic who is the human rights advisor covering the whole of Syria response so complimenting views and perspective and the collaboration on human rights aspects and in relation to today's topic. Following to that we will fly to another continent to Americas and hear from the protection cluster coordinator in Colombia from Juan Sebastian Diaz-Para so welcome Sebastian and finally we will land in Mozambique hearing from Hugo Reichenberg on the experience of Mozambique protection cluster in their initiatives around human rights analysis and working with human rights actors so very rich discussion indeed and insights that we will hear now from the distinguished panelists as I mentioned get ready with your questions we will then open up the space to hear from you and get some feedback and ideas inside back from panelists so thank you very much I will not take more of the time and we'll directly invite Sweeta please to come in and to share with us her remarks and thoughts on the call to action in a humanitarian setting so over to you Sweeta please Thanks so much Valerie now that we've managed to unmute thank you so much for this initiative and for this series I think from coming from the call to action core team we really appreciate your enthusiasm and the GPC's support and engagement and thinking through how the call to action as sort of a system-wide overarching umbrella really can be applicable to various different contexts specifically in the in the humanitarian space and how it is that you can concretely tie it to your programming because I think that's where the the rubber hits the road so thank you very much for organizing this I realize that we've got a little bit of a mixed group I think some of you might have heard this before but I think I'll just go over the basics just so that everybody's clear on what we're talking about next slide please so this is a very busy slide and I apologize for that but the Secretary General's initiative on the call to action for human rights is really the flagship initiative on human rights and it's sort of the umbrella that the Secretary General uses to kind of speak about human rights and make sure that human rights is really at the center of the entire UN response the initiative builds logically and substantively on human rights up front and kind of takes it a little bit further in the sense that the call to action very clearly sets out the seven thematic areas but the purpose behind sort of looking at these various issues such as sustainable development rights and times of crisis which obviously is particularly relevant to what we're talking about today but also gender and sort of climate justice issues is to really underscore the message that human rights are applicable to contemporary challenges and to kind of offer a little bit of a framework for the UN system to come together to come together and to think about what that concretely means for us so what we've been trying to do from the Executive Office of the Secretary General we've been working very closely with OHCHR who's part of our core team to kind of think a little bit and to work with the system to develop tools and ways in which at the sort of at the system global level at the entity level and at the field level we can start integrating human rights much more consciously in the work that we do and I think in the humanitarian space I was thinking about this a little bit because we've got this sophisticated system that has been built around protection I think this is there's a much more natural fit than perhaps in some of the other pillars and other areas of engagement that we've seen so I think much of what I'm going to be talking about today and what you will see in the slides will make a lot of sense to you what we've been trying to do at the at the headquarters level is to kind of try and put in motion a quite a broad brush engagement with RCs across the globe to start to initiate to have country-level dialogues and I think these country-level dialogues are really meant to be an opening or an entry point for the RC to convene the entire human presence on the ground and to really use it as an opportunity to kind of identify the top three to five human rights challenges and to have almost like a joined up response to these so really create the basis for joined up analysis and joined up problem solving now this in the first instance is a little bit of an inward perspective so the idea is really to kind of get the human system to sit around the table and to talk about these issues but of course there is a very important role that partners play and all of this and I think this is something that we've been trying to encourage RCs as well is that as they're having these conversations to also think about where it is that they can bring in civil society partners and others and I think that the the GPC and the human rights task team the setup that you have here is really excellent because you already got that sort of joined up integrated structure to think about some of these issues so this is a little bit one of the priorities that we've been working on this past year um we haven't I mean we're still in the process of really rolling out these country level dialogues and I think if there's one thing that you take away from today is really to say well actually there is an opportunity for you to also have that discussion with your RC and to put a little bit a little bit of pressure on your RC to make sure that this is something that happens. There was a secretary general sort of principles level discussion in the context of the executive committee which is one of the highest decision-making bodies within the UN and a very clear instruction was sent last summer to everybody and to all of the senior leaders in the field that these country level dialogues weren't optional so I think you have an opportunity here to really push for these and to use these as an entry point as you're thinking about your H&O programming and HRP programming and to use this almost as like an entry point for identifying sort of the top three to five cross cutting issues that you can then sort of think about how it is that you integrate them into your own programming. Next slide please. So this is just a little bit of a a schema of how we've been thinking about making human rights a much more automatic part of our work and I think this really goes into making sure that various agencies and entities that don't necessarily traditionally think of themselves as having a human rights mandate start to think about using as an analytical framework and as a way of kind of framing their own work and their own engagement. So as you can see here what we've been trying to do is you know we set up a little bit of an internal structure which brings together 35 UN entities from across the system in an inter-agency working group and who like Valerie who's our focal point for UNHCR help us think through concretely what some of the tools would be that would be useful for colleagues in the field such as yourselves and to kind of help translate the principles and the values of the common and the call to action into something quite concrete. Next slide please. So one of the things that we've been doing for these country level dialogues is that we've set up you know guidance there's always guidance but we've also prepared a set of questions that we hope would help frame some of these conversations and that we hope would also move the conversations within the UNCT towards more of a thematic cross-cutting analysis and away a little bit from from the usual speaking about mandate specific issues because one of the things that we've noticed in the initial country level dialogues that we've been holding or that we've been supporting and is that of course there is a tendency within the system to kind of come to the table with you know standard talking points of like who are the vulnerable people what are the vulnerabilities and what is the programming that various entities are already doing and I think the idea really behind the call to action and sort of the this notion of a transformational vision is to kind of go beyond our mandates to start thinking in a much more joined up manner. Next so here you will see in the next four slides are a few cross-cutting big picture questions that I think I mean of course I was looking at the the HPC the package the support package that Dina was talking about earlier and of course you've got various levels of analysis that are already built into this I think we're very conscious of not wanting to add to your you know the the extensive work that you're already doing around the various sort of planning and programming cycles but perhaps rather to think about these questions as allowing you to take a little bit of a step back and to think strategically about some of the larger bigger picture issues that you are all collectively trying to tackle and then to kind of use some of these questions a little bit as a as an overarching frame. Next slide please in fact I think we can skip through these because as Valerie said we'll make these slides available to all of you so you can go into them and very much feel free to to reach out if you have any questions around these. Next slide please and I think this is actually an important part the partnership so I the way that we've been thinking about is of course to sort of think about the the substance of it right so where is it that there are these big challenges where is it that the UNCT the gaps really in in where the UNCT has not been responding but then also to be much more strategic about the types of partnerships that we're engaging with and I know that the human rights task team you've also been doing work with national human rights institutions and sort of making those links and I think that this is a I mean obviously I don't have to tell you this within humanitarian responses I think the work with local actors is is a much more natural engagement that is already very strong but I think particularly as we think about the types of issues that we're confronting really thinking about some of the local human rights actors that you might be might want to reach out to and might want to sort of strategically engage in your processes I think would be a very excellent first step and that's certainly something that we're encouraging really at the at the system-wide level also to do. Next slide please. Now this is of course always the key question what kind of resources are available to support us with all of this I unfortunately have to say that there's no additional funding at this stage that we can make available for for the country-level dialogues and that is of course I do understand it is a challenge given that there is such a scarcity of of resources and capacities across but I suppose the way that we've been trying to think and and also offer up the call to action is really as a tool that would hopefully make all of your work easier by kind of connecting the dots between the different pieces that you're already engaging on. Next slide please. Now Valerie also asked me to speak about the agenda for protection which is a particular piece of work that happens under the rights and times of crisis area focus of the call to action so the Secretary-General had proposed back in February 2020 that an agenda for protection be developed which really is meant to offer up a bit of a policy framework and that would bring together the entire UN system when it comes to protection issues. Now this is not meant to sort of redefine what protection is but it's meant to kind of offer up a bit of a common understanding of what we mean by protection and in this particular case ensuring that people's human rights are being protected and then to kind of offer up ways in which the peace and security and the humanitarian and the development and the human rights pillar can kind of come together on these issues and I think obviously the gaps in our responses are quite clear but I think one of the things that we're trying to look at is really sort of in in situations of transition where there are handovers either within the system from one part of the from one type of UN presence to another type of UN presence from a UN presence back to the national government and these sorts of sort of trickier situations to really think through practically what would be helpful for people to have so the idea of this agenda for protection is to kind of set out I think at this stage we still need to get full clearance on this but sort of common protection principles and to then develop a bit of an operational plan that would give you pointers and that would really commit the entire system to setting emotions sort of mechanisms that would allow for protection to be much more at the forefront of the entire system so whether that be annual principle level discussions on protection that would then kind of be backed up by regional level conversations that would be backed up by country level and discussions and active engagement of the government and other relevant parties and these types of things that I think are already happening a lot in the humanitarian space but not so much in the in the other pillars so really joining those dots up. Thanks. Fantastic, Sweta. I don't know how you managed but you gave us a very clear picture of the call to action and even added the agenda for protection and what I feel from your presentation is really we have a clear link here to the work of colleagues in the field. We heard that there are now country level consultations that are starting. We have the guiding questions that could provide us some I would say hints or ideas where the discussions could be going and what you said I think it's very important. Here we go beyond our you know box our entity so we open up to the system wide change hopefully how we can advance together and it's an opportunity as you mentioned Sweta to advance on protection related topics and take this momentum to advantage of the affected population. So thank you so much colleagues you have in the chat the link to the call to action as well website and you can keep thinking about further questions to Sweta who so nicely framed for us this discussion so thank you again and now we can move to the field level experience or some examples good practices that are already emerging on the links between the call to action and the humanitarian program cycle related processes and analysis. So I would like to invite Kathleen to share with us some examples and good practices from OPT so over to you Catherine please perfect thanks so much Valerie and thanks so much for also inviting us and giving us the opportunity to to speak at this at this webinar it's it's great to have a sort of platform also to highlight some of the some of the practices of the protection cluster in the occupied schools and territory and just quickly to introduce myself my name is confusion and I work for the OPT protection cluster based in Ramallah in the West Bank office currently working remotely but I wanted to not go into too much detail in terms of the context and work of the cluster but of course happy to share more of this if colleagues have questions later on and just wanted to quickly mention that of course we're operating both in Gaza and West Bank and that the context in the OPT remains a protected protection crisis we have characterized by the sort of years of this really military occupation lack of respect for by each other and human rights law and sort of recurring escalations of hostilities as identified in our 2022 HNO violations of international return law and international rights law is sort of at the heart of the OPT crisis and so remain sort of the main driver of the humanitarian and protection needs and which of course is something that most offices is familiar with if we can go to slide two please I'll just start by giving just an overview of what generally has worked well in our office in terms of human rights integration and then just give a bit more details on some of the ways we approach for example the protection analysis updates and the humanitarian program cycle sort of outputs and processes so one of the key elements sort of first to highlight in terms of our sort of human rights integration has been of course our engagement and close coordination with OPT HR as you saw on the last slide OPT HR is the is the lead of the protection cluster in the OPT and so because we are an integrated office we sort of naturally work collectively and consistently together when it comes to analysis and addressing both protection and human rights challenges which which also involves sort of the having more joined up planning work planning of the whole office so so yeah just to mention that we basically we draw about a lot of the information gathering and analysis which is done of the cluster particularly also since many of the partners of the protection cluster of course are the same as OPT HR human rights partners and also the OPT HR capacity building team partners so for example when we collect data for for the mandated human rights reports or submitting shadow reports to various human rights mechanisms as OHSR that sort of links up directly with with also our work as as lead of the protection cluster the OHSR office in the OPT has a has sort of a very long standing mandate to monitor and report on the human rights situation and so given this sort of close and regular engagement with the human rights team we are able to access sort of very reliable, clear analysis and data on on human rights violations on trends and on human rights obligations and the legal analysis which we use in a lot of our products and are also analysis for the protection sort of situation and this includes receiving sort of situation reports on a regular basis of sort of the latest developments and incidents being monitored also by OHSR and so we have this sort of solid human rights analysis that we can use. In addition to this I also just wanted to quickly mention that of course due to the sort of special composition of the OHSR office both as the sort of mandated agency to report on human rights as well as leading the protection cluster this means that our coverage is quite wide and so for example when we as protection cluster brief the humanitarian country team this includes relaying both protection and human rights information and sort of key messages and advocacy including in some of our information products. Other sort of areas of collaboration with the human rights team include sort of field visits and referrals for example so when some of our protection cluster staff are going on field visits to assess different situations and areas of experience and protection concerns we will sometimes join up with the with human rights colleagues from the OHSR office just to ensure more sort of efficient engagement and visits and then we'll share notes and assessments so naturally there again we sort of combine the two areas of human rights and protection and when we're reporting on assessments that done visits and of course referrals includes the human rights monitors reaching out to us that they identify protection needs during their visits and vice versa and so this is this has worked really well and something that that's sort of is standard and procedure in our in our office as a joint office. If we can go to slide three I just wanted to quickly say that looking at sort of the HPC since human rights relations are the key drivers of the human rights needs in the WT this is also very much at the forefront of the analysis that we do in the HNO and which includes using you know information data and trends analysis again from also from our colleagues in the OHSR and this means that we continue to prioritize we have sort of monitoring documentation advocacy is a key eligible action in our HRP which includes a focus on monitoring documenting violations of international human rights law of course and in addition to IHL or conflict related violence and cellular related activities which is more specific to the WT and protection issues affecting human rights defenders and also monitoring of of grave human rights relations against children so all that is is eligible eligible activities under the protection cluster in the HRP. We also encourage partners to to continue monitoring and then sort of this comes also from the analysis done in HNO but to continue monitoring reporting in the reducing preventing human rights relations related to COVID-19 and and of course also then to have rights-based advocacy work orientated towards this sort of accountability and respect for international human rights law. Then just on the next slide to talk more a bit more of the protection analysis updates that we have done so far so we have so far published one in October which Kotoba last year which focused mostly on the escalation of violence which we saw in May 2021 particularly hostilities in Gaza but of course human rights analysis was again a very integral part of that process of developing that update in addition to having sort of assessment of the threats and impacts and capacities using secondary data from partners and assessments and puts in AORs. We also relied a lot on reporting and analysis from OHHR when it came to sort of key data and figures during the hostilities of course for example OHHR tracks and verifies all fatalities during hostilities for example we used a lot of their data and also specific elements of their analysis of sort of the violations of IHL and human rights concerns, trends and GMR obligations of each of the of the actors involved. For our upcoming protection laws updates we'll be focused on women and girls protection issues and again we're using a lot of the human rights analysis that we that we for example did during an internal mapping on women's rights together with the OHHR office which we contributed to so we're addressing sort of multiple areas of protection to rights concerns for women and girls and so there again just to more specifically we are including when we have sort of human rights context analysis of different power structures, relevant national legal policy frameworks, international rights obligations of course commitments as well as highlighting some of the sort of underlying causes of gender equality. So that will be also sort of highlighted clearly. So there's a last point I also just want to mention the that we're looking more to information management systems to help support this analysis and these updates and especially sort of the joint information analysis with the human rights organizations so for that that includes a protection information management matrix which we've developed to sort of act as a repository to collect and store secondary data such as reports and surveys and assessments and other forms of information across the different AORs that we work with of course but then also having a sort of specific dedicated section on research and studies that's published specifically looking at the human rights situation and a different analysis released by partners and OHHR. I think that's that's all I wanted to just quickly give an overview of an overview of so much time but happy to answer the questions during the Q&A so that's that's it for me. Thanks so much. Thank you so much Katrin. This has been extremely interesting and you gave us a lot of examples. I see that we have online a lot of protection class coordinators so I'm sure this is quite inspiring. We know that the OPT situation is quite specific in terms of leadership but you managed to leverage really this partnership and to take advantage of it to use fully the human rights frameworks and to take it forward. If possible Katrin can you post the links to the documents that are publicly available also in the chat such as the first protection analysis update you mentioned that was released last year and others and I'm sure colleagues from the information management working group who are with us today can also further support other operations would be inspired by that. So thank you so much Katrin colleagues you can start posting your questions comments in the chat we will get to them and let me now invite colleagues from Syria please to come in. We will start with Samir, Samir Saran who is the protection cluster colleague for a whole of Syria response and we are looking forward to hearing the example from the whole of Syria from you over to you Samir. Thank you Valerie and colleagues and I was just listening to Katrin and it was very interesting for me as well and Katrin really covered a lot of ground. So before I talk about the examples I just want to emphasize that the kind of opportunities for clusters and coordinators for engaging with human rights issues and actors and human rights mechanisms can be in different forms so they can be bilateral, collective, institutional level and systematic engagement as opposed to ad hoc and case by case engagement. Now how these are used by us or by you depends on factors such as the individuals on the ground, the institutional priorities and the overall tone often that we see from the humanitarian sector leadership and since it relies on many of these factors often the engagement is most difficult or strained in contexts that require it the most. In my examples I'll try to focus more on the efforts today rather than the challenges to hopefully illustrate in addition to what Katrin mentioned as to how it's still possible even if in a limited manner to have this engagement even in the more constrained context. So the current context where I work the Syria humanitarian response as we know is heavily influenced by human rights violations and an environment that places a lot of pressure on this engagement between humanitarian and human rights actors. So some of the ways in which this engagement has worked have been primarily at bilateral level. The UN commission of inquiry on Syria is a key human rights entity in our context and over the years several coordinators and I have had frequent sustained bilateral engagement with them and these have been through in-person meetings during the during the commission inquiries visit to Amman and also through various calls on other occasions in addition to that we've helped facilitate safe bilateral contact between them and strategic humanitarian actors to support their work and in return we have had the opportunity to use their reports and information to reflect into our own work and analysis at times. We and GBB partners specifically also received case referrals from commission of inquiry for GBB GBB related assistance and these are cases that they come into contact with in relation to information that people are providing to them. GBB colleagues specifically engage with aspects of sexual and reproductive health rights such as access to sexual reproductive health services, bodily autonomy and addressing reproductive coercion as a link to gender-based violence within the human rights framework. In these they also engage with the OXCHR as an entity. Another example that I can I can put forward about this is the annual report of the UN secretary general on conflict related sexual violence and towards this the GBB AOR leads on inputs from Syria and these are often things that we are unable to mention in our HPC products but through this engagement we're able to put forward this information to be used in the right way for advocacy and for the action. UNICEF and child protection actors as we heard earlier from Catherine as well are key in collecting and verifying information of the different kinds of child rights violations within the framework of human rights under MRM or the monitoring and reporting mechanisms of grave child rights violations and then they also lead in providing response to to people who are survivors of these violations. Now some of the major human rights NGOs such as Human Rights Watch and Amnesty have produced many reports or targeted advocacy on issues relevant to Syria. So for example there was a report on conditions in Al-Hol which is the biggest camp for displaced people in Syria or about foreign fighters and their families languishing in detention across Syria or risks of losing cross-border humanitarian assistance and other reports. For these and other advocacy opportunities some of us coordinators and sector partners have had periodic bilateral contact with them to feed in the information and perspective which we have due to our presence either on the ground or within the humanitarian response and this helps us as humanitarian actors to then sometimes call out what needs to be called out in the words that it needs to be called out or reach audiences that are not traditionally accessible to us but are accessible to these partners. An additional benefit for us as the sector of this engagement is that it expands our information sources and enriches our analysis of protection issues because as humanitarian actors we are usually confined to thinking through the lens of quantitative data but by applying the human rights lens and engaging with human rights actors we are also able to incorporate the qualitative analysis that is crucial to underpin a lot of the protection response we provide and also prioritize our interventions more strategically towards the long-term mitigation of protection needs. Throughout last year I also had the opportunity to closely liaise with the human rights engagement task team and benefit from some of the tools that they've created that can provide guidance to our efforts on incorporating human rights into protection work and thinking of engaging with human rights mechanisms. So going forward the protection sector at full of Syria level is currently in conversation with the human rights engagement task team to develop further practical steps which we will then take to increase this engagement in 2022 especially into our H&O and HRP narratives and in guiding the leadership in Syria response. As a sector we are also trying to strengthen our engagement with the OSCHR human rights advisors to the three humanitarian coordinators that we have in Syria and one example of this is our joint work in creating an advocacy plan for the leadership. My colleague Elsa will elaborate more on our collaboration on some of these issues but I just want to end by saying that even if we often may not see direct results of engaging with human rights issues and actors there is value in the efforts we make since at minimum the awareness that we create through this helps to hold us and our leadership accountable in our humanitarian activities. So let me end there and hand it back to you Valerie and I hope I'm not exceeding my time. Thank you so much Samir for sharing this experience from a whole of Syria such a complex situation and how you still manage to reach out and use effectively and strategically the human rights systems being smart about it oftentimes on confidential basis as you mentioned so not necessarily to be there at the forefront but use them for the better protection. So this is again very inspirational and I also appreciate how you gave us examples from other subclusters child protection gender based violence and how you are bringing it together as a cluster as a whole so a lot out there I'm sure there are a lot of questions coming but as you mentioned you have initiated and strengthened over the years the collaboration with human rights advisors as well and a testimony to that is the fact that we have with us today Elsa who is the human rights advisors for a whole of Syria so we would like to hear from you Elsa please. Thanks very much Valerie and thanks to you and the and the global protection cluster for this new initiative and for this enthusiasm indeed and on the engagement with the OATHR and particularly since last year with us HRAs because I'm not the only human rights advisor we are actually two human rights advisors and my colleague Abdelaziz Abdelaziz is also online so just note that for the question and answers because he's just to say a word to start on the context in which we operate we as Samir mentioned we operate in what we call the whole of Syria structure which unlike another operation has three humanitarian coordinators with the one based in Damascus who is the resident coordinator humanitarian coordinator and my colleague Aziz is advising him and I'm advising the two other humanitarian coordinators based in Aman and Gaziantep but really just to say that it's good to deep dive into our experience and best practices through this different webinar since last year so well done on bringing field protection cluster coordinators and OATHR colleagues together again to discuss this and particularly on the on the call to action which is really really important so I'll try to be sure to be brief next slide please I just give you say a few words on on the sort of a unique context in which we HRAs and OATHR and the protection sector are operating in this in this bizarre whole of Syria response to say that OATHR is part of the UN response to the Syria crisis since 2011 despite not being in the country as the government of Syria has not granted OATHR any in-country presence despite repeated requests so our office has four main components which are the three of them being the traditional human rights components and in any country offices office sorry so first of course the monitoring and reporting we have one ruler flow and accountability unit and one civil society and technical cooperation and in addition to the three units we have since 2015 what we call the human rights in humanitarian action project which is this deployment of initially three but now we are two human rights advisors in the response so important to say here that human rights advisors are part of a larger OATHR package which includes this monitoring and reporting carried out from Beirut remotely as well as the advocacy and the legal tools that we produce with our legal advisor and our colleagues in addition to the to the provision of this easy access to human human rights mechanisms UN human rights mechanisms and the political support through the High Commissioner Public Advocacy on IHL and Human Rights and I'm just saying this because that's quite an innovative and unique model of embedding human rights advisors in the humanitarian operation which initially responded to a widely identified gap back in 2015 so I won't expand much on this but just to say that the need for such HRAs was backed by the findings of a comprehensive and much discussed whole of system review of protection in the context of humanitarian action back in in May 2015 that review was led by Nora Nieland. The method of work of human rights advisors very briefly or quite include of course first the provision of technical advice and support on IHL and human rights to the humanitarian leadership and and humanitarian partners the integration of human rights and international standards and analysis in the HPC in a humanitarian program as well as the the I mean all the efforts to build the capacity of humanitarian actors on IHL and human rights but here it's important to say that really all the work we do as HRAs is based on a thorough understanding of the IHL and human rights development on the ground which is made possible through this thematic remote but thematic and extensive extensive monitoring efforts from Beirut and here related to the cultural action it's important to end to end to the humanitarian program cycle to say that OHCHR largely contributes to the intersector protection of civilians chapter of the HNO with UNICEF MRM which regularly I mean annually provide this this reports and thorough documentation and civilian tracking system data. I'll just say just two more things before I go into the best practices and really I try to stick to two examples just to to be brief but just to say that that the sort of internal stock stock taking exercise that we OHCHR series have conducted since 2015 have led to a number of lessons learned and and recommendation to take forward which really shows how the human rights advisers to the humanitarian coordinators or complementary to existing interagency resources and do not overlap with pre-existing advocacy support to the RC and HC for example of course the protection cluster coordinators or the humanitarian protection lead agency and the the work of the protection cluster coordinators and UNHCR as the lead agency on protection is not duplicated by the current contribution of HRAs it's just a room for close partnership between between protection cluster coordinators UNHCR and OHCHR. Next slide please and here I'll just probably say a few words about the two first examples otherwise I'm sure we'll have time in the question and answers to go into the others but in terms of the good practices and the collaboration between humanitarian and human rights actors in Syria I will focus say a few words on two examples first is the work we've done with the protection cluster and the health sector on attacks on healthcare in Syria and the second is about the engagement that we as an office and human rights advisers had with Syrian humanitarian and human rights NGOs as well as with the commission of inquiry with the triple IM and other bodies in the framework of the human rights reference group the HRRG which was created in Gaziantep back in Gaziantep being one of the hubs in the whole of Syria in Turkey created back in 2015 and and I'm just flagging those two examples to show how this engagement between humanitarian and human rights actors have both contributed to an improved quality of the of the outputs and the processes throughout the HPC to produce a more robust protection analysis including gender analysis grounded on IHL and human rights and that was really the first reason why we had decided to create that so I'll just start very briefly on the on the issue of attacks on healthcare just to say that obviously the situation of attacks on medical units in Syria since 2016 and and clearly after the the involvement of Russia and in in in Syria with a systematic attacks on medical units really prompted the protection cluster the health cluster and human rights and the human rights office to work on the monitoring reporting and advocacy on on the issue to stop attacks on on medical units so we started engaging with a special rapporteur on the right to health Dr. Puras at that time that was in 2016 we had a number of public statements in which both humanitarian and human rights actors contributed in terms of data in terms of analysis then this led to an awareness building an advocacy mission to Geneva that was supported by the global protection cluster back in 2016 and then we finally organised a roundtable discussion on attacks also on mental health and on sexual and reproductive health back in Gaziantem just all this to say that that really provided the the the basis for some high-level advocacy that was also supported on the occasion of the EcoSoc community in the first segment in Geneva back in 2016 and it was really a good example of how we could bring together Syrian NGOs and international NGOs like PHR, SAMS and others to really improve the the the the analysis on on on IHL and human rights violations so this is really ongoing we are now engaging with the new special rapporteur Dr. Mofo Kang from South Africa on on this issue very much working with UNFPA and the GBV subcluster and others just few words I really tried to be brief but on the human rights reference group that was created in in Gaziantem I can actually share the link in the chat box after that there was a piece published on the global protection cluster website with ODI the paper on collaborative advocacy between humanity and human rights actors there's a page on the human rights reference group so you will have more but just also to say that this was created really at the request of Syrian NGOs human rights and humanitarian NGOs to improve not only the exchange on of information on IHL and human rights development but also to suggest a number of way forwards in terms of advocacy and how we could really encourage the humanitarian leadership in Gaziantem and and the rest to scale up the advocacy on IHL which was at that time not the case so this this has provided a more comprehensive analysis of protection of the protection situation that has also resulted in more information exchange and that really has enabled this group to serve as a platform for coordinating the strategic advocacy on on key protection issues I wanted to say something on the work we're doing indeed with UNFPA and the GBV subcluster on sexual reproductive health as Samir has mentioned but I'm just going to stop here by concluding on one thing that is important in terms of the call to action the we have offered recently to brief the SSG the SSG being the equivalent of the HCT in Syria so it's the co-chair by the two humanitarian coordinators Aman and Damaskis and OHCHR has offered to brief the SSG on the call to action and the agenda for protection so that really relates to what Sweden and other colleagues said about this country level engagement on the action on the call to action so we're very much look forward to keep you all posted on how this goes at the country level and how we can leverage the call to action at the country level as as Samir said also by supporting this protection advocacy plan that we have worked on together sorry we didn't have time to go into this but I'll stop here sorry that was a bit long thank you very over to you thank you so much Elsa there is a lot of good practices so thank you for sharing those and when I listen to you as I it always reminds me how little we are using the capacity of human rights advisors in the field and as protection clusters and humanitarian entities we can definitely strengthen our partnership with human rights advisors you mentioned different ways how we can do that including through capacity building that you can support with you and many other examples so it's also a reminder to all of us and our dear colleagues in the field that we have a strong potential partner out there an ally let us use them so thanks so much Elsa for giving us those concrete examples very good so let us now change the continent and thanks to colleagues who are putting questions in the chat we will hear from Juan Sebastian Diaz Perre the protection cluster coordinator in Colombia Juan will present in Spanish but don't worry we have bodies the lead of the information management working group under the global protection cluster who will translate any interpret for us after each slide so for those who are not fluent in Spanish you can still fully benefit Sebastian and also who got there after I would maybe like to ask you if you can also weave in some aspects I know you will already but reading the question that Alice posted in the chat if you can give concrete examples how this collaboration with OHTHR works in practice in terms of analysis in terms of sharing information advocacy etc very good I still be here and over to you please Sebastian thank you Valery thank you colleagues for this opportunity next bueno yo creo que es fundamental plantarles a ustedes desde la experiencia de colombia lo que ha sido para nosotros el análisis en el marco de puff en función de un elemento concreto y ha sido colombia soy una crisis de protección de múltiples variantes tenemos situaciones asociadas a desplazamiento forzado interno de carácter prolongado tenemos situaciones de impactos desproporcionales sobre comunidades indígenas afro colombianas y campesinas tenemos al mismo tiempo territorios en riesgo tenemos comunidades que viven bajo la emergencia recurrente de un desplazamiento forzado y un retorno acompañado y comunidades que dependen de la solución está el confluencia de problemas y dificultades genera para nosotros la necesidad de una priorización por aria y quisiera insistir en este elemento para nosotros es fundamental hoy en términos del análisis del link en función de derechos humanos a ser un enfoque de aria colombia no se puede entender toda de la misma manera tenemos situaciones particulares en territorios particulares y por lo mismo es muy importante este mapa que les presentamos que ha sido el resultado no para nosotros este año y es identificar territorios que están en severidades grado cinco la costa pacífica del país la frontera con venezuela y algunos otros departamentos en donde viven comunidades de especial protección constitucional ya mencionadas comunidades indígenas afro colombianas campesinas o comunidades que se han desplazado en múltiples ocasiones que viven en las periferias urbanas de grandes ciudades por lo mismo el primer elemento como experiencia aprendida y creemos exitosa e avanzar desde un enfoque de aria geográfica para interpretar desde allí las necesidades de protección thank you so much Sebastian and i will try to do it as well as you did but um which is almost uh something impossible no but uh uh Sebastian was mentioning you that one of the key aspects of the implementation of the protection analytical framework in colombia is about the multi-dimensional multi-reality of the different contexts of of the country and the need of making an area or a regional analysis of the process you cannot compare the situation in the so-called high land high lands to another areas like the coast of the pacific etc were considering the different realities particularly because colombia in terms of protection and link it with the with human rights is facing up that multi-dimensional which is characterized by the displacement but also the the impact on indigenous afro descendant farmers etc that they are uh facing in several in several levels the the impact of the of the conflict and another risk the presence of refugees and migrant population mixed movements uh towards the united states and extreme natural disasters but one of the things that uh Sebastian was highlighting it was the need that in order to have a proper protection analysis that includes the human rights uh lenses and the human rights perspective into the overall analysis is to have a focus at geographical area a focus that later on can have a direct and positive impact in how the coordination with the stakeholders and partners but also the coordination and the planning of the response can take place in an appropriate manner uh Sebastian the thank you Boris next please la complequidad que tenemos en colombia para referencia de ustedes existe la estructura tradicional del cluster de protección pero existe en colombia también una estructura que de respuesta para la población venezolana en esa lógica estamos trabajando cada vez más juntos cada vez más unidos en entender los conductores de crisis para estas poblaciones y entender cómo debería ser la respuesta institucional creo que colombia tiene una experiencia muy alta en materia de atención al desplazamiento for sado interno no es gratuito estos 20 años de desarrollos en marco normativo no obstante persiste en colombia un estado de cosas inconstitucional declarado por la corte constitucional y en esa lógica es necesario mantener los esquemas de monitoreo de la situación interna en función de ese enfoque de derechos humanos no podríamos perder el norte dado que el enfoque de derechos humanos nos genera el marco de referencia sobre el cual deberíamos estar activando nuestra de respuestas gracias hostia and i will pick one sentence that you say it is bad for having a wonderful overview about what it means protection and human rights no you were mentioning about vida libertad and security that which translated it means life freedom and security what what's a austin was mentioning is the different realities and the different legal frameworks that that also they make impact in the way that we are coordinating the two different responses that we have in the country from one side we have the internal armed conflict that is lasted for many years but it has a national a national legislation and a national approach in terms of how to approach the the national protections services and also have to have to have access to to legal support by the by the state and then what we have is all the current situation regarding the benedict and migration and you will see what he was defining the what he's showing in the in the slide at the different risk that both population groups they are facing at the moment also from the left side of the internal conflict we have the violence threats to retaliation recruitment confinement the typical ones the regretfully typical ones that the colombian population is facing for so many years already and then what we have is the the situation of the the migrants like uh facing the regularization of the migratory status sorry for that the trafficking and smuggling of migrants protection risk during the migrants route for us access into the colombian territory gender-based violence and the protection of migrants and refugee children. Over to you and Sebastian. Thank you for the last slide please. Um bueno y como como incluimos el análisis del protection analysis framework en nuestro trabajo yo creo lo primero es resaltar el hecho de que la construcción de estos análisis no los hacemos desde el nivel nacional los hacen mis colegas en los equipos sub nacionales del cluster de protección y a ellos todo el respeto por el conocimiento del contexto que tienen y por el relacionamiento que tienen no sólo con socios del cluster de protección tradicionales agencias del sistema y organizaciones internacionales sino también organizaciones y estructuras nacionales y locales de derechos humanos y en eso quiero relevar la experiencia de las personerías que son una especie de defensorías del pueblo en los territorios y la misma defensoría del pueblo el intercambio permanente entre los miembros de los equipos sub nacionales con esas autoridades de derechos humanos nos permiten un monitoreo del contexto con múltiples variado variables pero también nos permiten mantener la confianza en un escenario que soy tan inestable y tan complejo en materia de acceso a los territorios por lo mismo ese análisis basado en contexto riesgos capacidades y recomendaciones resulta rico en función de la experiencia local no necesariamente la reflexión nacional evidentemente nosotros en el nivel nacional complementamos algunos elementos pero es fundamental para nosotros la experiencia local nosotros con el apoyo de gpc logramos publicar en diciembre del año pasado dos protection analysis updates para norte de santander frontera con venezuela y para el departamento del choco con particularidades específicas el choco con ese enfoque étnico ese ese llamado de atención que queremos hacer sobre la desproporcionalidad de los efectos del desplazamiento forzado interno y el confinamiento sobre comunidades afroindígenas y en norte de santander esa mixtura de emergencias que está viviendo hoy este territorio de frontera pero quisiéramos relevar ese hecho de como nuestros socios y las redes locales que se tejen en los territorios terminan generando los análisis de contextos más e pertinentes para cada coyuntura y cara de territorio gracias a bastián in his last slide a sebastián was giving you an overview of the analysis the analysis updates that they have been the national team they have been producing a late last year and insisting on something that this is the analysis process is not a national level it shouldn't be something that happens at national coordination level but it has to happen at subnational level where the reality the reality the knowledge the access and also the interaction when we talk about the human rights and networks etc i will give you one specific example is critical in order to incorporate it into the analysis so more and more than anything else sebastián was highlighting about the importance to bring the analysis closer to the front line interventions and operations and to ensure in this way that we can make a proper analysis in terms of context risk capabilities and recommendations for sure later on at national level there is articulation with more strategic analysis where the engages with the humanitarian needs overview etc but again the question of the this subnational or area-based approach particularly he was highlighted the how useful it was this approach at subnational level for working with the person areas which is a specific pro institution for colombia at local level is a local ombudsman the interact and interaction of our subnational teams with these local person areas it has really ensured and facilitated first because of the level of trust the level of interaction and daily interaction but also to to bring into our analysis all the the risk but also the overall human rights analysis incorporated in the overall protection protection analysis with this album we finish but yes uh muchas gracias de nuevo sebastián participación aquí estamos muchísimas gracias sebastián y gracias a Boris también thank you so much for this very concrete and interesting presentation from colombia context which i believe responded a lot to alise question how it works in practice and the bottom up approach the area approach the relationship with the local institution so thank you so much sebastián if possible to put in the chat the link to your protection analysis update that you already produced i'm sure colleagues would appreciate and it also corresponds to pedros question in the chat who is asking about more examples about the data that we collect and how we share them and i am sure a body's maybe you can also post in the chat some examples to respond to pedros question and then add some elements after we hear from hugo and then to mention that abdema had also asked a question in the chat about a very specific topic child recruitment in colombia i would invite all colleagues to take this opportunity of our today's webinar to also connect bilaterally so abdema had please feel free to reach out to sebastián sebastián please if you can put your contact details also in the chat but it's valid for all of you if you feel inspired by some of the examples or would like to know more please do reach out to the panelists and dear panelists please put your contacts in the chat so that they are available very good i also know the question from schaista schaista has been interested in the intersectional analysis so it also links to the opening that dina gave us at the beginning of our today's webinar and i'm wondering elsa if there is a way to share the link you mentioned before so the way you worked with health cluster gbv colleagues on the intersectional analysis and the advocacy it resulted to i believe this would be very interesting example for schaista and other colleagues and please feel free to add any other elements also in the chat before we come back to you but let us now move to our last panelist but definitely not least hugo who will give us the perspective from mozambique so over to you hugo please thank you very much valerie um so i take very much into account to the questions of elis and also the reflection of dina in the beginning of this event you know and how can we be more intentional in our processes and i have a very small presentation as mentioned by kathryn i will not go into the context but just to say that um what i've been always reminding the hct and also the iccg here in mozambique is that um cyclones don't commit human rights violations right because we have a cluster system here that was born from the idai cyclone in 2019 and this is the cluster system that has maintained itself and it has been responding to the the increase displaced from the northern mozambique since 2020 as a result of conflict and human rights violations these are non-state armed groups as the media calls them terrorists who are um in conflict with the the mozambican military and who are displacing these large amounts of of idps of course through a series of human rights violations human rights being very much at the center of this emergency um so on that note some very practical example of what we've been starting this year and actually continuing from last year on how to include human rights in our humanitarian processes um one is that last year we've launched a strategic advisory group this is of course a best practice of protection clusters around the world and the recommendation of the gpc um within this context of mozambique where protection is very much a novelty and a humanitarian response right but human rights isn't everybody understands the language of human rights human rights integration into development programs that have been active in this country for decades um we saw as very important to have oachr colleague in our strategic advisory group as you know these are 12 um very um strategic handpicked members right who are part of this steering committee of the of the cluster and this is the forum where we turn to for strategic discussions strategic directions and also analysis of the context um for your information any reports any any advisory any position paper that we produced go through the 12 members of the strategic advisory group and we make sure that there's a consensus that they have seen they provide their edits this is why oachr is there to bring in that human rights lens um another thing that we've started last year and we are continuing this year is to have a very strong engagement with the national human rights commission of mozambique this is a commission that is very much embedded of course within the government structures of the country there's a representative of both parties um within the the national assembly there are representatives from the lawyers forum of mozambique um there's a number of very high level um individuals so we have we have been partnering with them since last year providing briefing on durable solutions this is a big keyword here in mozambique at the moment because as you know there are troops stationed in the north and the government has been overly optimistic inviting IDPs to return in areas previously controlled by non-siran groups however what we've seen unfortunately december and even over um the last few weeks of january has been the abduction the killing of many of these IDPs who have returned um linked to this is of course a participation of the national human rights commission in our protection cluster meetings um the national protection cluster meetings and mozambique have been converted to more or less a forum of exchange of information so we have the national human rights commission participating we have a number of human rights advocates working in the country we have also for example um donors participating so we've turned it more into a forum because we have three um sub regional clusters we have the protection cluster and cabo delgado we have two other protection working groups and they are dealing mostly with the with the micro um coordination of the response however at the national level our our our meeting is more a forum for briefing of analysis and of course with the national human rights commission participating they can get that in firsthand um as mentioned the strategic advisory group is the forum where we turn for technical advice so all of the protection monitoring tools that we are um preparing before missions we are also working on a protection incident monitoring system that some year might remember from yanmar for mozambique but that's still very at its embryonic stage but we discuss these within the strategic advisory group and we make sure that oachr not only looks at these tools but also provides the inputs um so a lot of the the reports that we've been producing um automatically um collects information on human rights violations we also have a partnership in 2022 with oachr um thanks to echo funding if they are connected we are very grateful um this has allowed us to partner um um through unit cr having a colleague funded through units with echo funding based in the field the colleague will be working very closely to my counterpart in cabo delgado and the mainstreaming of course uh human rights in the work but also supporting us in that endeavour of scaling up protection monitoring and putting into place this protection incident monitoring system that we really hope will get off paper and on the ground in early 2022 some of the things that we've been doing of course is including human rights language throughout the hr ph and o but also in our protection culture strategy that has its own small uh chapter on human rights and you'll see a draft of that gallery at some point if you don't leave us too soon um we are also working on a on a on a strategic advocacy um a protection a strategy for protection advocacy um and with that on that strategy we're working very closely with the pro cap and oachr why the pro cap because the pro cap is part of the rco's team i go back to what sfeta was saying the challenge of getting hcts and rchcs of understanding the issue of human rights so what we've done is that we we've we have also members of the rco and our strategic advisory group and the oachr colleagues so they can you know be in view of our human rights analysis and this can be then of course communicated across um and into the hct we are planning joint missions with the national human rights commission together with that oachr colleague in 2022 um and what i've said before in this forum in a different event was 2021 was actually a year for great opportunities for us because mozambique went through the universal periodic review um within the human rights council so we gathered a handful of willing embassies who are also sitting in the human rights council and briefed them on four main points that we wanted them to get across um and these were reflected then in the recommendations at the human rights council floor we also um prepared a a confidential well not so confidential now that i'm mentioning it but a confidential note to the iccpr review of mozambique um to the panel experts um with some again with some topics that we gathered from this forum right which is the protection cluster right we have 30 plus members ngos national ngos un's some work in the field some working at the strategic level of advocacy so it's really an ideal forum for gathering those issues and transmitting those onward for these human rights opportunities such as the upr and um treaty body reviews and that's it really of course the hno hrp has been reviewed by the oachr colleague with dinner sag um and our strategy as well um and that's it from my side over back to you valerie thank you so much hugo and i think you have really completed the very comprehensive uh overview of examples that have been given on uh how the engagement with human rights actors and on human rights issues complements the protection analysis efforts and feeds into the hpc related processes and uh you have gone even a step further in mozambique where you have then used this analysis information that has been uh done collectively for advocacy and getting uh use of the human rights mechanisms so thank you for sharing that with us as well it's definitely the next level as well and very very effective your relationship with oachr is also quite special and very uh very concrete and again going back to ali's question i think it provides a lot of uh uh elements very good colleagues we are uh at the end of our event nearly i think we reply to all of your comments and questions in the chat there was a question from julian or julian vatkinson that i found very interesting which is related uh to how we can bring visibility to the invisible or non-quarantifiable humanitarian impacts of living under the control of armed groups and uh linked to the advocacy efforts uh are there joint advocacy frameworks in place in other countries what we could learn and julian with the permission of the tasking colleagues and i am working group lead and other colleagues who are preparing those webinars i would actually suggest that we take this as a possible topic for our next webinar on how we can leverage the call to action for this type of situation uh looking at sweater as well and our advocacy task team uh colleagues who are with us carolina marie emily and ali son so we will take it forward and hopefully have a dedicated discussion on this uh going forward colleagues uh my dear panelists we have limited time but i'm going back to you has the discussion sparked uh any further inputs in you would like to share in one minute some key messages also taking into consideration sena's question which is now in the chat sveta can i turn towards you please yeah thanks so much for this excellent discussion and the really amazing and super inspiring examples actually from the field i was thinking that it'd be great to kind of find a way of linking these examples up to the work that is being done at headquarters because i think that our interagency working group is also thinking about different ways in which to engage and i think the very practical ways that you've pointed out would be of great value and interest to them as well so perhaps that's something we could set up like a mutual exchange or a briefing or something like that just to briefly touch on some of the points that sena had raised i think those are really interesting especially the first one um that you mentioned sena so one of the um things that we've been trying to do is to have like systematic briefings and discussions between the two system leads for the call to action so that's usg for kutur and as g is the prans keris who's um or chr with srsg's with se's so the special invoice um and with our chc's to really kind of open up i think the space for consideration because one of the things that we're noticing of course is that a number of the srsg's even say well oh human rights that doesn't really relate to my work or my mandate or whatever so it's sort of kind of opening up that box in a in an intimate conversation actually with those two senior leaders and then working out well where is it that there are the where is it that specific training in a way would be necessary and where is it that particular uh discussions still need to happen that then kind of have to trickle down to uh their technical staff and and sort of country level engagements i think in terms of training more broadly what we're thinking about is i mean valerie has been uh intimately involved in kind of mapping out human rights related training that are that is available already across the system and then making sure that people are aware of these various courses that exist and making sure that that just becomes part of the standard way of engaging so one of the things that we're also looking at is sort of um reviewing leadership compact and then finding ways in which to insert human rights almost as like an obligation so that there's a very clear priority that is set right from the way um your individual um engagement is assessed through to where it features in in your programming thank you so much sueta you have managed to respond to sena's questions and i i hope this was satisfactory and there is a lot of follow-up we will be doing again i think it would be worth actually to have a dedicated session maybe on the available capacity building supports and materials and what is out there what colleagues can use in which language so sena and colleagues if you find it useful please tell us and we can organize that um happily so um there is a reminder please for all panelists to share the contacts in the chat uh if you can um that would be much appreciated so i think this has been very fruitful uh we have heard a lot of examples from the field and i believe we have a better understanding all of us how all this links to the call to action what it means in practice we have also two suggestions for future topics of our engagement you have seen also boris's message in the chat that he is fully available on behalf of the information management working group to support you specifically on the analysis protection analysis updates boris so i take the liberty to repeat again that the resources are here to support you in the field please do reach out to the i am working group to the human rights engagement task team advocacy task team under the global protection cluster and others this is the first um um webinar in a series and we you can uh you will be hearing from us more i see boris so uh please take the floor over to you no no i just to thank you uh thank you you valery for the wonderful uh comments that you have yes sir uh yes to tell that yes uh as valery was mentioning this year that we are aiming at our objective as a pillar is to roll out the path including also the analysis on human rights we have a specific work stream uh as valery was mentioning which is the serve between the this task team and the information analysis working group and anyone that wants to initiate uh protection analysis update process we will be reaching you very shortly but at the same time don't need to wait and come back to us and we'll initiate the process anytime but thank you so much and i don't want to steal you more time i appreciate it valery thank you so much boris for all your support you are giving to the field and colleagues don't hesitate to reach out really and take advantage of this support and available resources so let me conclude um this is just the beginning or actually we have already started but you can also look forward next week through communication coming from the global protection cluster coordinator from william schemali who will be as some of you know already sharing a letter or a communication on how it is important why it is important for field protection cluster to engage with human rights systems and the key lines that are expected from all of us uh to uh to follow and to deliver on so this is coming your way and we look forward to unpacking it with you even more going forward making sure that we contribute to the implementation of the call to action on human rights and moving the system forward collectively so thanks to all of our panelists uh we will be sharing recordings and the presentations and summary notes uh in the upcoming few days with all of you and have a good rest of the day bye thank you so much take care thank you valery