 Welcome to off topic Tuesday off topic Tuesday. I made it think he was gonna say and he started saying he didn't say it I didn't I didn't say quick enough. We are going to keep it random because it's off topic Tuesday Yeah, so I'm gonna trip him up. He already forgot it was to see last time. I forgot Tuesday this time He forgot Tuesday. That's why his laptop's missing. Well, yeah I got no better excuse and we are experimenting to his studio you have to tell us well We know we look better in the dark completely. Absolutely, but our wives both tell us that yes We are I see one of them fell a little bit, but I'm not I'm not addressing it. No, I'm gonna keep recording It's all good. It's just a little out of frame. We're working on these lights They actually came in like in 10 minutes before we press the record button. We pinned them up here real quick We're playing around with them. There's two different sets of lights That's that's a work in progress. Tell us what you think of them Love them hate them or you love or hate us Comments below. We'll take it all thick skin dang it with thick skin Or you may go join our facebook forums because I did a rant on youtube youtube comments and why they suck All right, so let's get off topic Because we're way off topic. We're on topic. We're on topic of topic to be off topic So, um, hey actually before we start, you know what's special about today tom? I don't know I started working here one year ago today one year ago today one year ago. Holy crap today Cheers cheers. Look at this cheers so that clink is one year anniversary one year anniversary. I get a A Gold watch or something. I think I get one of those candy necklaces. You get to continue working here Tom's like, what do you get a paycheck on friday now shut up? Just like all the other that's 52 fridays up to your hole. That sure is. Yep. So yeah one year Very happy about that. So yeah, we're happy to share. Yes. We love sharing. That's why we're here Because sharing is caring Netflix tweeted please stop calling our customer service hotline and asking if we have the gorilla channel Turns out they don't This this always presents lots of humor to me apparently I don't even know I'm not going to bother with the source because it's just amusing that it went all the way to Netflix they tweeted about it and then came to our customer talking about it Apparently in the the new book about the president of the united states. There's uh a comment made. It's not real An excerpt from the book that said there was a he watched the gorilla channel obsessively some satire posted this Well, I think I think that site they they made they totally made it up. Yeah, they were saying like this is an excerpt from the book It's not in the book at all. Right. They just they totally made it up and but everybody bought it This is just funny because so many people And I I used the phrase a lot like a sign agency to things because they just are assuming there's a conspiracy They're duping like no, no it started as a joke that just went too far It's uh, yeah, and we should probably be clear just for people who don't know the book We're referring to is the fire and fury fire in theory. I think it was the the book about uh, president trump's administration and everything and so Yeah, the the quote was that he was watching this gorilla channel all the time and like rooting for the big silverbacks Look at how he hit that guy and and the problem we really have and why these things become almost more believable Is if you and I don't if you're on the left or right, it doesn't matter read his twitter And I you're always like, okay The president of the United States just said like i'm very smart It's like like like i'm just saying the guy there's so many absurd things going on that you can't believe sometimes you're like, okay Um, I guess this could be true, too Yeah, well because he he kind of fell for it too and tweeted that he didn't watch the gorilla channel. So it's so So he's not responding to the center. He didn't watch the gorilla channel. I mean, this is just Yeah, yeah, I mean, I guess I suppose in his defense. I mean if somebody said that I spent all day watching the gorilla channel I would probably say no, I don't I would I wouldn't necessarily immediately look to see if there was a gorilla channel It's just it's just amusing does it's it's um, it caught me off Uh, we really started laughing about this because this is actually a big problem in general because we laughed because all of the news outlets Are awful like all I don't know anyone who can stand watching Any of them and i'm not saying oh cnn's good or mspc's good or fox is good They're all terrible sometimes are terrible for different reasons But I mean I sometimes find the articles on there absurdly bad And i'm like how do they even the the narrative both sides one's gonna pitch to one side one's gonna pitch the other And you're both doing it horribly like anyone who leaves those on all the time I I understand how you become so misinformed and this is both sides. I am not pointing left to right This is a horrible the news outlets are uh designed to keep your eyeballs glued to them So I mean just keep cranking out crap full disclosure last week. We talked about the article of uh Cards against humanity buying the yeah rights to the ballpark now and someone pointed out that we found that in Four different legitimate news sources that reported it as real They're generally acceptable legitimate someone pointed out that I guess they didn't buy someone from the area One of our fans here did I'm sorry that I can't recall your name right now, but you'll probably comment again on it But yeah, these are the this is becoming and it's because these major news outlets are uh strat for cash and the monetization model is Dill the airwaves of crap and you it on here. So it's it's be first not be right Be first but not be right That's definitely the thing you can always correct later because my pages are dynamic because you didn't print it There's a different concept immediately. It's true used to be Uh, so they're they care less about being right because they can just delete the page delete the tweet I didn't say that never happened. Yeah, someone screenshot it or anything But I give I give major kudos to whoever is running uh netflix social Yeah for putting that uh police stop calling our customer service hotline so we actually covered this about a year ago in uh the Vlog Thursdays with the teddy bears. Ah, yes. Yes. You remember the teddy bears They can spy on your children. That's right. Yeah, so after breach exposing millions of parents and kids toy maker v-tech handed a $650,000 fine by the federal trade commission I'm shocked that they were able to actually find them The federal trade commission by the way is going after netgear for putting the word secure on their boxes of wifi routers What they don't know how to prosecute them for actually being insecure So they're also going after them for putting the word secure on things because it has they actually see it has no right to Put secure on anything and the security reaches they have I agree So this is uh, this is another topic though the kids toys spying on your kids It's weird because they when we cover this in the teddy bear incident. Um, maybe I'll dig up the article from that too and throw it in the links but the uh problem really comes down to some of these devices are Designed with only the thought of how cheap could we because a lot of kids toys are cheap How cheap can we make something electronic that the kids can play with that? It seems harmless on the surface until You dig into it and go wait a minute All of a sudden anyone within range can pick these up or they use a really simple algorithm to post the stuff online And now anyone can just be inside and watch your kids videos and things like that And that was the case of teddy bears other people could log in And I believe once again, it seems like it was netgear and I can't remember one of the other Big companies it turns out they serialize all the numbers all you had to have the serial number And the nanny cams that you put to watch your children. You could easily access anyone else. It's just by changing the numbers in the header Yeah, yeah, so Yeah, it was kind of uh Interesting. Yeah, some of these companies handle it. So, uh, we just want you to be aware be secure And this is also why they you won't find a bunch of iot stuff at tom's house Um, just what around here at the office. I I post a lot people like oh, but you use facebook I do I use all these things. I'm controlling the narrative because when I turn it off and I close it and I turn the phone off That means I'm doing something that I didn't want to share So yeah, well in this one with this camera and was it was it the camera that was insecure? Yeah And because I think they weren't they like they were they you could create the parents could create like a profile I think on the website or something and so Like not only could you get like whatever pictures you could get whatever data they put in creating that Profile. Yes. I don't know what all it doesn't really say what all they ask for but I mean, you know Yes is a violation of the uh copa which is the Children's Protection Act and things like that which if you watch did you watch last season silicon valley? Yeah, yeah, do you remember the copa? Oh, that's right. That's what screwed up their company. That's right And it's funny because these are playing out in real life Like how did so the silicon valley the fictional you know startup company get themselves in the trouble Exactly the same way the real life company just got themselves in trouble So real life. Yeah, is it satires at real life? Silicon valley is great because it's so damn accurate. It really is And it writes itself. That's the whole it does tom and I are still very upset that our door is open like this And not like this like this Yeah, we watch that clip right here. Yeah For those of you watch the show you'll get that doors open like this. These are not the doors of a billionaires These are not the doors of a billionaires Richard. They're not the doors of someone in three comma club. That's right I'd be happy just to be in the comma club Yeah, it seems I feel as though it's unlikely because my my pursuits are not for wealth I want a car that goes like this, but I don't want money as much as I Oh, I want money, but I don't want I don't know that's why I want the tesla suv It has the front doors that go like this and the back doors that go like this It's the best of both worlds the best of both worlds Now this this is in the telegraph, which is a I think critical So suicide At chinese iphone factory really nice concerns over working conditions Now This is tragic and they if you remember fox con they're one of the largest manufacturers and they're opening up places here in the us But they're more robots Here they've there comes a point of you replace the humans with the robots to get the job done And because they're cheap enough, but in china right now labor's cheaper america. It's labor's more expensive So that's why they are building with the robots here And it is a problem the working conditions are bad But as I read the article this is where the news sometimes i'm not going to say they twist anything It's tragic every is uh suicide or tragic things like that But someone's pointed out it has a lower suicide rate than the us overall and then someone on reddit pointed out as well It has a lower suicide rate than cornell university from a university student that ended up the suicide trip wow compared to them So I said Wow So as much as this article is uh heart grabbing you also go What are we doing wrong here? Yeah, right like that's a little too much pressure to be putting on cornell students. I think yeah Wow Yeah, so where's the real sweatshop? Is it cornell university or is it fox? Oh, and I'll see that's the question. It's just a question. It's a different kind of product They're churning out at cornell. Yeah different type of product Sorry a little off topic, but the uh it is tragic The I don't know if this I never got a clear answer on this either is uh, whether or not the suicide nets Which we've seen pictures of but was it really that or it was it for some other purpose? Because yeah, there was a guy that got in a lot of trouble at npr He did that whole investigation into fox con and turned out he was controlling a narrative and not really being truthful about it Maybe that happened like around five or six years ago He exaggerated a lot of things but he was at the time was reputable port and somehow thought he wouldn't get caught So trying to uncover some of what goes on there. So it's interesting. It's tragic. It's um, well, I think this article on the telegraph It says that that the nets were put there. Yeah to quell suicide, but you know, it's really interesting because china is such a They are very because of the way the state sponsored media. They're very controlling about what information does or doesn't come out We actually have clients that used to have china factories and then didn't in the story Actually, it's interesting what people and people who've studied this know But if you try to open a business in china, you don't open a business in china You get a government partner for any business you open So you end up with a a lot of control over things in there So a lot of people choose just to source things from china but not actually get involved in the manufacture in china So it's kind of interesting They have a very different business model because you want to think of them as socialist or As a different structures are not exactly capitalist But they they have a government that acts in a capitalist way and it's very it's a very interesting hybrid Because they don't choose by the people they choose for the greater good of the people versus respecting individual rights That's what makes china such a different place. Um Yeah, watch the three gorgeous dam the building of that fascinating documentary Learn a lot about china So Backdoors You went into a party for that, right? I'm just I'm not just saying So, um Thanks Wd my cloud nas I am a massive as anyone who spent any time on his channel And if you're first getting here, I'm let you know huge open source guy. Why? This doesn't happen in the open source community like this They hard-coded backdoors into the Wd my cloud hard drive. So a lot of people use these probably a lot of youtubers use it You need to back up all your data you get a my cloud. I can access it anywhere So can other people it turns out they hard-coded and there's an entire we'll leave the link to the register Here a back door with my d-link br capital br i o n y g with the password abc 1 2 3 4 5 cba The reversing way more secure. Yeah, way more. Yeah, except for the fact This is in all of them once you know the password to one my cloud, you know all the my cloud passwords I I don't know what occurred in this. This is one of the reasons I really like things in we're gonna go with free nas for examples I'm a huge fan and we use their product if in the open source world because the source code is auditable You were too hard-coded password Someone would go why whether yeah, yeah, that's why You would someone point it out. I I don't know any large scale I'm sure it's happening in small scale because there's so many open source projects name We can start one but in any of the larger projects I've never known them to have hard-coded passwords We've seen this across a lot of devices and I like it the register to like this sort of thing Isn't that unusual in the small nas world? Cisco efforts for me by qnap similar. Uh, yeah, Cisco's efforts made by qnap with other oms who is secure uh bad Badging deals. So let me think. Um, they had I guess I thought they listed in here. I'd seen at the bottom. They don't list other ones I'm sure a short a short search will find you other devices that this has happened to I know in the firewall world At the high commercial level some of the companies I believe it was juniper 40 net had a hard-coded password So you're talking about very expensive devices not even ones that you consumer level devices So this is why I preach open source because this is how you can figure these things out because it's a mess It's a mess. I'm trying to figure out does that My dlink yeah, try to figure out how to say it brian e good My dlink brian e g brian e g brian e g. Thank you for this backdoor. Thanks brian e g. Maybe he works for the nsa Oh, that could be I won't rule it out He's an nsa plant working. So that's exactly what it is that could be it Now this is a little bit older of an article, but I It's I'll probably happen to a lot of people and the woman who posted selfie with barcode on melbourne cup ticket had 825 dealer 825 dollars winnings stolen now what this is is she won some money in a race And she's took a selfie with the ticket someone took the selfie seen the barcode used it and she printed it out By the way, this works for a lot of different things because barcodes on tickets taken with selfies It's a bad idea So yeah, and this lady I think kind of needs to re-evaluate who she associates with because they're pretty sure they got it off Her facebook page. So it was one of her friends that did it one of her friends If you win the lottery Good for you Yeah Don't post a selfie until actually you cashed it then you can do it if you plan to post a selfie with the ticket Do it after you've cashed out? But even that you get a problems or someone else could come in with a copy of that ticket and go No, they cashed out my winnings. You could just yeah, you could see what it's go Don't post a selfie with your winning ticket. Yeah bottom line bottom line Yeah, we should you know what we should do like a you know rules for posting selfies like always check behind you Like what's in the background because you don't want embarrassing things to pop up Oh, that's such a great thing is all the embarrassing things Oh gosh. Yeah. Oh take a quick selfie in the map. Anyway, yeah There's a jar of something behind you. You don't want people to know is there Yes Things back there. Yes, there's reasons. There's not a lot of photos outside of my living room My answer is always the same people like how do I avoid getting XYZ private thing not online I'm like never take a picture of it with your phone or other devices that sink to cloud things This is the best way to avoid it. Yeah, I'm just saying and simple by a point and shoot Don't connect it to the internet only put things exactly where you want them I mean, this is the the most secure way to do it because this happens a lot a lot of celebrities and everything else Now the last thing me and marvin debated about talking about what we've talked for eight minutes So we'll only briefly ask this question because we may cover it in another separate video So I see and I Disagree wholeheartedly with a lot of his behaviors and I see a lot of other youtubers coming out and I've been speaking with other youtube friends. I haven't been called the logan pocalypse Well, that's what I've been calling it. I like I like logan pocalypse logan pocalypse logan pocalypse So any of you who uh Have the misfortune of knowing who he is or I've decided to google who logan paul is He is managed to bring himself to the news. Now the problem is youtube Promoting him so youtube We got our videos demonetized when i'm talking about some of the most like doing a tutorial on something I've had demonetized by youtube and I have to go through the review process The one of the bigger incidents recently was the suicide force in japan where he was extremely disrespectful and showed a body Hanging there. He does it for the views and he doesn't sell the merch He's just He does a lot of these shenanigans. He's the if you want to call it like in maybe our earlier era We had to have said like howard stern was a shock So he had the howard stern area era that was in the 80s, right? Yeah, 80s, maybe in the 90s really 90s And he once everyone got over the fact that he said really absurd things on a radio And it was all to get views and listeners at the time Views today listeners back then then we had jackass Yeah, which was probably more me me and marvin's era and we were trying to decide I mean, we know they did some pretty awful things, but we really feel howard stern Not really a fan of the guy at all. I really disagree with a lot of things he said Jackass I said a little bit more he grew up with we see I'm trying to look back and I have my own Humor I laughed at with jackass, but was it uh, and we try to think about this I think they only really focused on harming each other like their pranks were focused on each other And they were all participating at some level in the prank. Yeah, like band margeron his dad and everything else Yes, he was not nice to him And maybe you shouldn't have in his childish laugh and I I understand that some reasonability because jake paul being very young but I also like I don't like the fact that youtube's morning I see is more of a problem because all right we get it your his behavior is awful Then why is he on the front page of youtube youtube has control over That why would you keep monetizing it because you're almost incentivizing it going? Yeah, just monetize that video of the guy hanging in the forest and he's going to keep making money off that I don't know Can you tell us and is it through our rose shaded glasses of the past was awesome? And we know the past was not awesome. Uh, things are better now than they were A long time ago Was jackass that bad and I don't really know enough about howard stern to say what awful things he did But I know he said a lot of not nice or not true things about people. Yeah I know he at one time he went to making fun of disabled people, which I I think he took it out of Being a joke and took it just too far a couple times. Yeah. I remember there's a couple real big cultural things Um, and at some point the radio stations were kind they kind of getting got against him on that Well, and for me where the big difference comes in is like howard stern even jackass is it comes down to people emulating it If you wanted to emulate howard stern well then back then you had to go through the trouble of getting on the radio Like you know what I mean? Like it was no easy thing to to become a disc jockey and say shocking things Well with youtube or anything like that I can be like logan paul and have my own youtube channel and immediately start doing these things And emulating that and that to me is the problem Or a large part of the problem Not only do you get to emulate being an obnoxious person and an obnoxious human being you make money on it Matter of fact, yes The more obnoxious you are the more chances you want to get views and do this And this actually led to and you know, well, I'll throw a link in here because they just sentenced her They had a girl that it's a tragic story. It's horrible They were trying to build up views on youtube and things like that And one of the things that they had done was they decided to shoot a gun She shot a gun at her husband her boyfriend He had a boyfriend at the time Well, he died so definitely whatever he was that was where he ceased but I'm sorry I shouldn't laugh That was where he ceased that's where he ceased to exist It was it's horrible and they they did this awful watching youtube videos and things like that and trying to get views and trying to make money Off it and I'm like wow and um, they thought a book would stop a 50 caliber Yeah, yeah If you spend any time on youtube and type in 50 caliber book You'll realize the 50 caliber gun will go through it doesn't take a lot of youtube research But they convicted her and she's facing time For her participation and it's a tragic story. There's no winners in this story. He died. She's going to jail I believe they have children together. So there's like nothing about this and they did it for youtube views and that's where Um, hey, this is the cool rock star lifestyle. Look at logan paul man. I got a lambo I got these fast cars I live in a mansion because I make all this money off youtube and you're like But in a youtube, of course, they're supporting lifestyle and then he has fans There's always going to be people want to watch the crazy crap that's going on and yeah So are wondering on this of some of your thoughts feels free to share them We've seen a lot of other youtubers come out against them saying that's not what they prefer. So it's a uh It's something we just want to address a little bit. It's not it's a way off topic for us Actually, but uh because i'm in the youtube ecosystem and i'm meeting more people on youtube And i'm really enjoying the platform, but i'm not trying to Create my channel by doing shocking things But of course you can't help but bump into other people who do so So i'll probably go to vidcon this year and you know meet some other youtubers That controversy is gonna gonna keep following. So it's kind of interesting. Yeah. Yeah, so let's know what you think Let's what you think on that other than that. We're gonna go back to being uh off topic And we got a lot of work to do today, unfortunately Well, unfortunately because that way he can catch his check on friday. Yeah And can then hopefully work for another year. Yes, but i love doing youtube It's uh actually today is uh gonna be a youtube project Because i'm gonna film some stuff that we got going on on projects that could be why my phone's going off over there Ah, maybe so we'll let this slide my phone over here Who's got a bigger button on her desk? Is it well yours? Yeah, yours is on the back Mine's in the back there. So that's button. We'll be pressing the buttons Neither one of them are red though. No, they're not and i have and i have very large hands It's got big hands big hands. Thanks. See you next week