 Good morning. Welcome to Y254. This is why in the morning this is actually Tuesday interpreneurship And we have just had a wonderful interview from Mr. Barry who was talking to a lady who helps ladies Who helps ladies get empowerment through soft skills and right now? We've got another guest that we'd like to hear from another interpreneur. She's not just an interpreneur She's actually a serial interpreneur and I'll explain to you exactly why we call her that She goes by the name of Sarah Mooney and before we get to meet her I'd like to tell you how you can reach us on our social media pages in case you get piqued or your interests gets piqued by Anything that Sarah shares the way you can do that is through our Facebook that is Y254 channel and on Twitter you can find us on Y254 channel as well and you can also find us on Instagram That is Y254 underscore channel. I'll be on joy underscore more chaché and if you'd like to watch this interview later You can do that on YouTube and we also have a repeat on DSTV on channel 376 at around 2 p.m. Karibu Nisana. Welcome Sarah. Thank you for having me joy. I'm so happy to have you. Thank you So serial interpreneur in case people don't know what a serial interpreneur is It's basically someone who does An interpreneur who runs several businesses all at once as opposed to the typical interpreneur Who runs maybe just one business one idea and one of the things that you do actually Not only that you're a life coach. Yes, and on top of that you're actually the founding director of blue diamond consultants We shall talk a little bit about that and your founder and principal of change to excellence Academy. Hey my friend We're not done. She's also the national chairperson of global business roundtable future leaders and Last but not least she also programs director women in Africa Kenya the chapter of a pan African Organization that focuses on girl childs and women's empowerment. Do you have time to sleep and make friends? I have time for a life Jesus, that's my life. You see, that's my life. Yes. Wow. It's just about how you manage your time Yes, so that you know what you do when we're supposed to be doing when yeah But actually we have people who have companies like 40 companies. They have a group of companies. I mean a hundred companies I speak of somebody like this guy of virgin Atlantic I mean he has yes, how many companies has he of hundreds bill gates hundreds of companies and how do they manage? So number one you have to be able to work with people be able to delegate be able to empower people so that they can take Responsibilities and so for you just take an oversight role. Yes, otherwise you can do all those things at the same time You cannot manage you do that through our investing in other people who are able to take up those responsibility And then you just go to just check checks and balances here and then you can manage that. So it's very possible It's very possible. It's very possible. Oh my goodness And you you know you are also a youth and this is a youth channel And I am hoping that someone is actually getting interested in opening a business because employment is not exactly the best thing right now And let's talk about our first and foremost your blue diamond consultants. Yes, what do they do exactly? What do you people do? What do you focus on doing? So basically blue diamond consultants is a is a is a capacity building Company what we do is that we offer trainings to organizations and to companies in terms of change management leadership personal developments people skills Team building anything to build a team cells and customer service anything to build a team Yeah, because the most important ascent you have as a business are the people You have your data. Yeah, you need the data very much like think of a bank What do you think is the most important thing? I said that I have one is the data You don't want to lose the data but also very important other people because if you empower the people if the people have been Their capacity has been developed then they'll be able to take care of your data They would be able to take care of their customers and they'll be able to grow the business So our tagline is actually build the people build the business build the people build the business That's your tagline your mission statement everything Yes, we build people we even business of building people. Yes, because the people are the ones who build our businesses that run the country then The people build their businesses which build the country which built the continent that is true So bottom line we really need to have a conversation about people development And I'm seeing a very many entrepreneurs and very many business people actually starting to invest in people in terms of Even personal development because the better you are as a person the better your your business The better your career the better your your work the better Environment around you the better you are as a person and that has to do with personal development So if there is something that you can invest in today If you have a small business you're just starting out invest first of all in yourself But then also if you have some you know a small team like five people ten people Investing those people in terms of growing their mind developing their mind the way they think And then they will even show you ideas that you you you didn't even have that will help you grow your business So that's why we started the blue diamond consulting Consultant company, right? Yeah. Oh my goodness that that does a lot And I most of the things that you're doing and also according to what you've said focuses on Building people personal development as well as building other people And you've tapped on something because we're talking about entrepreneurship You've tapped on something Something I think even not every business person knows that what makes a business successful are the people Yes, the people. Yes, you mean the staff the ones who have been hired to work, right? Yes What impact do they tend to have on a business because I would think oh, maybe the CEO Maybe the finance person has all you know, but I would just think everyone else just comes to work That's their part What exactly can you say to make people understand the importance of the importance of Building people so that the business Succeeds as you said. Oh, it is everything because let me tell you something. There's a tab that's in business in the business world that people buy Organizations pay right and the first thing that people buy about you Whether you're an entrepreneur or you're employed somewhere the first thing that people buy about you is you So if you're coming if for example, you're selling a product and you're coming to me you're selling Maybe it's insurance or whatever it is and you're coming to me Our first of all want to believe you see. Are you believable? Can I trust you? Do you look like the kind of confidence that you that you showed is it believable before I come to your product? So if I don't really trust you if I don't quite believe you because of how you present yourself how you look Then it would be a bit difficult for me to come to your product to come and buy your product So that's why developing the people Becomes very it's non-negotiable Non-negotiable. It's that paramount. It is that paramount. It's non-negotiable It is people who build the businesses and if you and that's why it's very important Sometimes you just look at them. You know, I'm paying you your money and pay you have a salary. So You work Yeah, but then it's more than that and companies that you find are doing very well even today The outstanding companies because you're not What do you call them these companies that you're not a monopoly Right in in any field that you are whether you intel come like like like this Whether you intel come or whatever area you are in you're not Monopoly there you have competition. You have other people with the same Products. So how exactly do you stand out? You stand out through empowering your staff the people who are representing you They are the face of your company and your products out there You first of all empower them then from there they are believable and people will come to your company people will buy from you You stand out by empowering your your your staff To to be able to to speak about your your products confidently and they grow your company, right? Yeah Last year you did something Actually at the global business round table summit. Yes, I would like for you to touch on what happened there because we are Once again talking business and entrepreneurship and then also I'd like to maybe read some of the inspirational things I have seen on your page By all means. Yes, but first of all kindly let's talk about the global business Round table summit. Yes. So actually we hosted last year. We hosted a global youth summit Which where we heard about I think over 10 Countries young people young people Entrepreneurs young people entrepreneurs from different countries in Africa and we were basically asking us if we have common challenges as countries Do you have common solutions? And you see one of the things that stands out in Africa when we're discussing youth when we're speaking about youth Is unemployment? So what are some of the solutions that we have to problems that affect youth in Africa? And one of them we said is innovative entrepreneurship Yes, and we started looking and we really You know had a lot of insights. How can we innovate in education? How can we innovate in mining in the mining industry? How can we innovate in telecoms? How can we invite in all the sectors that make up an economy in agriculture? All the sectors that make up an economy and you know right now we are speaking about in in the country speaking about drought and I mean In food insecurity, how can we be how can we as young people start innovative agricultural projects? That will be able to feed provide food security to our countries and our societies So we were having the such kind of conversation and it was very very clear that Employment is good We're not saying that it is bad. It is good because you go and get the experience which is very good But you know how America has been built And all these countries all this japan what it was not built by just Employees you're working somewhere as an employee. It was built by people who thought innovatively And they started all those companies that is why you find that some of the opportunities out there because there are very many Innovative thinkers entrepreneurs. They start entities. They have innovative ideas that bring Bring people from all over the world to those countries and that is the same that we need in Africa because we Because this is what happens. I don't get a job. I have I have a degree I mean like most people and then you don't get a job and then you start saying, okay. Well, I'll go and work in Qatar If somebody start a business in Qatar or in Saudi or in us or in australia, where would you go? And why can't we create the same opportunities here in Africa? So that's the conversation that we were having and it was really very It's brought out very very liberating very liberating thoughts and discussions with we need to continue to have this african youth Actually when last week I just came from a conference in rand and we were discussing the same things Yes, how can we build? You know lasting lasting companies lasting entrepreneurial entities, you know as youth because we are the future of the continent Exactly. Yes. The trustees of any society any nation is its youth and that's why we need to have this such kind of Conversations as african youth All right. Yes You know, you've said something a lot of important things In everything that you've said and what I love is that you brought in the fact of food insecurity And also the fact that just recently we're hearing news of people Literally lacking food You've also brought in the fact that a lot of our people tend to leave the country to look for work Instead of instead of bringing in innovative Ideas and starting innovative businesses so that we don't have to keep leaving I love the work that you're doing and I have to ask If I could read something you wrote here that says dear entrepreneur This is a growth tip and it says be slow to hire and quick to fire Don't keep dead wood and don't rush hiring decisions now Why I'm reading this one because we want to tie in the fact that People that work for corporations Wherever it is even the ones that people keep flying out of the country to go to all those people that are working there that have been hired We don't necessarily especially here in kenya. We have a problem with what we call nepotism There is a hiring problem. I don't even know how many places don't even have hiring processes. There's a hiring process Yes, but then process is a person. Yes, and then the process is the person it goes In another way And these are some of the things we need to work on because we're also putting Wrong people people who are unqualified people who don't have the competence to do certain kinds of jobs And then those who keep applying the people who've studied certain things are the ones who Don't get the work. And so they happen to leave the country When you go out and you do your talks when you're encouraging people about innovative business and how to hire people Maybe who are competent and how to build those people to make that business become successful What are some of the tips you would say especially to somebody who Is starting a new company And is having a hard time trying to figure out what are the good qualities in which to hire a person Yeah, yes number one you need to you hire skills You hire a skill. You see you are employed for what you know, but you are paid for doing what you know And doing what you know requires a skill. So you're looking for a skill and that's why you know when you go for an interview Anyway, I'm sure many people you've you've heard this you'll be asked. Uh, what can you do? Okay papers aside You're doing well on paper. So paper says what can you do? And basically I want to know what can you actually do? What what is it that you can what skill do you have? And that's why our education system has There needs to be a change There needs to be a chance that we now start advocating for for skills based education Yeah, because I mean when you come most most of the graduates that usually are turning from these Universities you find you can just do management. What are you managing? And you don't have any skill. You don't have any Where are you managing? So we need the skills and that's why the tivets I think I would I'll congratulate the government for really coming up with the tivets and so that young people can get skills So as you go out there, there's something that you can actually do You can even start your own business whether it is welding or whatever But a skill so as if you're hiring somebody you are hiring a skill You're hiring you're not hiring anything else forget. We know each other forget You know someone who knows forget that you're hiring the skill forget my trade or what I need somebody who can actually work And I don't have to be there because I'm very busy also looking for business out there I need somebody who can actually be in the office technical Pass on handling the work Someone you can trust because without that then actually the business can fall apart It falls apart and it falls apart on what tribal lines? Why should I be losing my business because it's I brought my brother because I have to I have to give them As an entrepreneur you don't think like that as an entrepreneur that is not the thinking And if that's the thinking that you know, I need to hire my uncle I need to go to bring your whole village here. So they see you're doing very well very soon. You'll be crumbling That's very true. Yes, you need and that's what's happening to african society We're falling apart because we're hiring people that don't know what they're doing They don't know what they're doing is just about is my people is my person is my what it's that I mean, that's how that's how you bring down. That's how you bring down an economy And also when you go out there like we go to us most people want to go to us Australia, Canada, whatever they hire you for the skills and people who do them the plumbing jobs They're paid very highly Even drivers drivers bus drivers are paid highly live in wonderful apartments. It's But now here I think we're just I think in the illusion that you know when you manage when you have a degree Manage business management and what then now that sounds nice, you know, it sounds nice looks good on paper But when it comes to actually the actual work the rubber meat road, they're nowhere, right? Yeah, that we don't need that in Africa. That's why we don't need to think innovatively Develop skills make sure you have a skill and sometimes we even have gifts as a young person The three things that you have you have Dream as a young person you have dreams. You have an idea. You have a vision This is what I want to see for myself. We all have that Then the other thing you have is energy You have the energy and you have the time to actually pursue them Now the combination of those three things will bring in the money It will bring in the money could you repeat those three things? Yes Just in case someone is yes number one you have a dream a dream as they are people we have dreams We have dreams to you have the energy You have the energy. These are your haters. These are your prime years go for your dreams And then you actually have the time to actualize those dreams. Yes, you have the time Because you're young you don't have a family. Maybe you don't have children to attend after you try to take care of There's a lot of time on your hands. You have time So and then now when you have that coupled with will you have the will to actually just follow to the end It will bring in the money it will draw the money and you will achieve your dreams And you will become a resource to the society in the resource to the world And that is what we want to build in Kenya. That is what you want to build in Africa That's how that's how those those economies that we look up to have been built Yes, that's true. And I feel like Saramuyi you don't get enough How can I say cloud is not the right way? You don't get enough recognition for what you're doing in my opinion because what you're doing is rather big And by the time people and that's why I've taken different angles because I'd like for people to understand the importance of What you're doing and how it's going to actually impact this whole continent as a whole If other people pick up on what you're doing and also start to do the same thing in different countries that are suffering economically And also when it comes to employment This is what is going to help us. Yes, and let's go back to talking about And actually those sorry my directors are telling me that they're going to put up some photographs as we wait for them to do that We shall continue to talk about innovative business I'm really into this idea of innovative business and um A lot of the things in Kenya or in Africa a lot of the many markets are untapped Just recently. Yes. Just recently. We never had What do you call them life coaches and people who come even motivational speakers? That was an untapped market. Yes, and once people realize the importance and how much our youth are actually dying for that wide of encouragement When people realize that is when people started tapping into the market and then people realize the importance of it Here you are and I can see something there that says embassy of the united states. Yes Please tell us what you were doing there Yes, so this is what I was speaking about. It was something I was doing with change to excellence academy Yeah, because I have a personal development academy. Yes, and I was speaking about basically personal branding how you present yourself Yes, at american space there. That's what you're seeing the embassy of the united, it's an american corner So you're seeing the the they are the embassy of the united states and it was basically Empowering professionals and entrepreneurs about being more keen on their outlook Yes, because as I was saying the first thing that people will buy about you is you So how do you present yourself in a way that you are memorable? Yes, in in a way that you are memorable. So that's basically what I was doing there. That's what you were teaching them there Yes, also personal branding. Okay. Yes, and now that we're talking about personal branding and other We're now walking into the other side of ceremony. Which is a life coach. Yes Let's now touch on that just a little bit as a life coach. I know that it takes Oh, oh my goodness So I was being awarded a certificate there But but this is our national chair person for global business round table. They're sarah kareenge That was this meeting a personal branding mogul in um in in us. Okay. Yes in miami. She lives in miami Right. Yeah Yeah, so they were hugged they had a meeting here. They had a meeting here in arab. So I I just met them at the intercontinental Yes That's one of my hobbies. I love hiking We can get along Because that's my scene. Yes. Yes. Yes. So I love this one I come from kirinara county and one of the things I'm promoting there is tourism So I just took um time when and went 20 into one of the forts there near very near Mount kenya. This is actually in the forest of the mount kenya forest in kirinara county. Yeah, and Very very beautiful lovely sceneries there. Yeah, so it's I was just hiking right there. Yeah And you know, it seems like you have a very interesting diverse life you're into a lot of things And um, I would also like to think that's someone like you has a lot of friends one of yes Because you have something about you that just draws You know like because then again when you keep speaking positive words and you keep building people up It just automatically draws people to you. That's very true. Yeah, very true So and actually one of my hobbies is hiking Okay, one of my hobbies is hiking and one of my goals is to be at the top of africa By end of this year and that would be who to pick at kirimanjaro You're trying I made it to the top of mount kenya. Oh, I have actually made it to the top of mount kenya I'm not gonna do it again It was that bad. You need a bigger challenge. You need a bigger challenge. Yes, I do. I might need a bigger challenge But for now, I'm just happy actually just talking to you getting to know the work that you do And going back to the life coach Now I want us to talk to our youth directly and as we end the segment I'm going to ask you to share your social media handles because what you're saying is some powerful stuff And I know you've touched a few young souls and they're going to reach out to you at some point And before you share them Do you mind to give a word of encouragement as a life coach? Yes I would say this number because we're not on a entrepreneurship show number one if you Have a summer you want to get into business or you're already into business. There's several things you need to ask yourself Number one. Why are you in business? Why do you want to get into business? That one you have to answer that because for me the drive I didn't know if I shared this with you the drive was that I needed to do something purposeful I wanted to leave my life purpose. I wanted to do something that makes me happy and gives me fulfillment in life And then from there I look of how I can be able to earn from it So why are you getting into business and most people who are in employment? And by the way, if you go and speak to somebody anyway, even someone who is in employment If they're not into business, they have a business idea If they're not moonlighting they're about to start. Yes. Yeah, that's so true. They're about to start Yeah, so Why are you getting into business? Most of the time people will say that uh, you know I had to be my own boss or to run away from my boss because he's like this and like that There are all those reasons that you'll give I want more time. I want more freedom Those are wrong motives because number one, there's a lot of pressure You don't want to program ship is pressure time stand. So what is uh, why are you getting into business? Because if you're getting in it for the money Then you'll be out of that business in in two years because any business as you're starting it doesn't really You know, it will it may not necessarily give you what you want You can take even a minimum of three years or two years for it to really pick So even in it you're going in it for to get more money. My friend, you have a problem Two if you're going because uh, you have a boss that gives you pressure This is pressure a lot of pressure in employment And then also the other thing is that to be my own boss you realize when you get out and you have clients They become your bosses and now you have many bosses who have demands So you you have to meet all of those demands. So it is more demanding So make sure you're going to the business for the right reasons. You want to grow yourself You want to develop let that be very clear for yourself. It will give you focus You will not so that when you don't get into business then two years You say, ah, this is not working. Which other one is working bitcoin who go up on a ruka? Hi, you you don't get the money you go to the other one You don't when you focus, you know what it is that you want in your focus. I am in this For I am in this business for one two three And I will do whatever it takes for me to grow this business Then you find things starting to fall into place. So number one is the reason why the number two it is action You can we can speak here all day. Yeah, we can speak here all day. Most people are very good talkers and speakers But until you actually rubber meets road you go and register that company You know, you just for the last five years. I'm starting a business You're never registered a company Go and register a company. Yes. So action the difference between where you are today and where you want to be is simply action Yeah, and then and then now of course you have a vision for yourself because you can't achieve something You can't achieve a target. You don't have you can't hit Arrived to a destination that you don't have what is your vision for that business Where do you see yourself in the next five years in the next 10 years? And that's a question many people are not able to ask even when you ask to meet that is very true Yes, where do you see your business in the next five years? Even if you shorten two years even two years someone has no idea Actually, even two years even do I wrote my I usually encourage people in my academy and tell them, you know What I want you to do a life plan I want you to do a life plan for the next five years where you see yourself you write down For the next the other five years like that until put until when you want to live in this world You can put up to a hundred or wherever and you know what happens God even can actually just look at your plan and your your desire and he says You know make your desires known unto me and he actually gives you life up to those up to all those years Yeah, so put your life plan. This is where I see myself in that this is where I see myself This is where I see myself at 80. This is where I see myself at 120 put that When you have that now you'll be able to focus and you you know, you even have a prayer point You know most time you go to pray and you don't even know what you're praying You have a prayer point to a lord. I want to be this in the next five years I want to build this for myself for my country for my continent for the world in the next 10 years Let me tell you big dreams. Oh my god dreams There's so much to learn. There's so much to learn and I just wish we had more time And I you know, um, I'd like for you to now share your social media handles Yes, I feel like I should pick my phone right now. So because believe me I am going to contact you at some point. Thank you. So kindly Please share your social media handles Because you know, we don't go online. We live online. You live online. Yes. Okay On facebook, I have a page Saramuni the life coach. You just see my face Yes, you can like my page and then on youtube. I'm very vocal on youtube. I have a youtube channel Saramuni I think you just see my videos. Yes, I have watched some of you Thank you. Thank you. And then there's uh, twitter at saramuni i g At um saramuni as well i g saramuni and then uh, my whatsapp. Can I say my whatsapp? If you like my way as my whatsapp is like yes, my whatsapp is oh seven two three five five seven zero four eight Yes, and let's continue with this conversation. Let's continue empowering each other. Yes, please repeat that The number yes, the the the my whatsapp is oh seven two three five five seven zero four eight That's my whatsapp number. Yeah. Yeah, so please feel free to contact me Yeah, I'll be very happy to to engage and to just empower each other. That's the least you can do for anybody. Yeah Wow, this is just amazing. You guys you've heard on how you can find miss mooney She's a wonderful lady and trust me if you're looking for some kind of direction This is a one to go to and if you've got some kind of a dream on some kind of a skill You know, I'd love for you guys to reach out to miss saramuni. She's really really amazing And not only she a serial entrepreneur. She's actually a life coach That means that's somebody who actually guides you as you go through life Thank you so much for tuning in. This has been why in the morning. Hilda is coming up next with another interview My name is joy muchache. I have been so so so so blessed to have you here on set Thank you. Thank you so much where you can invite me again, you know Yeah, exactly. Yeah, we look into that. Thank you. Yeah