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Say it, man, listen, man. Hey, the song did crazy numbers, man. Then you came back with another song, didn't you? Yeah, it's lower. And the cadence was, it sound good. It sound good. Like, I mean, you know, when you think about it coming behind a big hit like you had with that Lizzo, how did you feel about, you know, coming out with anything else behind it? Well, I feel like the same way I created Lizzo, which was naturally had to keep doing everything the same exact way. Because if you're going to a studio with the idea of I'm about to try to outdo this or try to knock your for when you set yourself up for failure. Yeah. The music is not creating itself organically the way that it was initially. Like the same way what I did is you just go back in there and let the music write itself, you know, catch the vibe and keep it going, you know. Yeah. What part of Florida are you in? We about to come down there, man. Miami. Yes, lord. You gonna come see me down there? Man, come on, man. You gotta pull up. Yes, lord, yes, lord. Man, I'm supposed to be down there. I'm gonna tell you about what. Very soon. Cool, cool. Very soon. Yo, yo, yo, man. So, you know, a lot of people, you know, my girls was here today on the come up and they had issues with you. Might you come here for a second, please? I'm pulling that. Reality TV, come here for a second. I want you to get in on this one. Yeah, we got one here right now. Oh, look at how she come through with them heels. Fix the camera. Look how nice she looking. Yeah. How are you? I'm good, I'm good. So, you heard the song, of course. And you've been, you jammed it. Of course. But you kinda... Feel something, feel something on the way. Yeah, but you kinda, you kinda was like, okay, when you heard this lyrics and just the way that the reality TV is in the building, y'all. He didn't say this though. He never said he didn't like getting women. Let me say that though. He didn't say that. He didn't say that. Not at all. So, I don't wanna say that. What did he say? She's got a little bit of something, but that's okay. Mm-hmm. She gonna let a real nigga. Yes, lord. Yes, lord. Do that cancel out the people with no stomach? Well, the song was created to show those women that us men are open to loving them openly as well. See, there never had to have been a song made for smaller women or, you know, women that's on the smaller side. So, there was a void there when I created Lizzo. There was never a void when it came down to the smaller one. I don't know, because Lizzo will be putting on those. Yes, she do. Yes, she do. Yes, lord. Yes, lord. She's a proud representative of Texas, too. That's where it right. So, how do you feel about women getting surgery then? I feel like you do what you love. Whatever makes you happy inside, that's what you need to do. Would you prefer that? Well, Jimmy, I prefer a woman who had surgery. I would prefer my woman to do whatever she feels as though it's going to make her happy, because when she's happy and smiling, I'm happy and smiling, and she's happy and smiling. Hand in wife's happy life. Yes, lord. Yes, lord. I'm not opposed to it. I feel like, you know, everybody has things that they want to change. They say, if your teeth are out of space between, you might want to get braces. You know what I mean? If you got acne on your face, you want to... You know what I mean? You want to do everything you feel as though it's going to improve you, even if in the eyes of somebody else, you might not be improving, but to you, it makes you feel better. But some men love it because they want that perfect-looking woman, some men love the more natural-looking woman. But then, and you have the other spectrum who would be saying, you can make those minor alterations as long as it's not life-threatening. You know what I mean? Because if you go under the knife, anything simple or not, anything can happen. But if you use an acne cream or anything like that, yes, you can have an allergic reaction, but it's not, you know, but some things can be taken in a different way. So some men be like, you know what? I prefer for you to be here. So I prefer you natural, because I'm not going to have you take that risk. We have kids, we have whatever. I can't do without you. Yeah, love is strong. Like, you know, I can't see myself being without you. You was to go under the knife and this was to happen. Right. But happiness starts from within. A man could do whatever he wants to do in his power in order to try to make a woman happy. But if she's not happy within herself, everything you just did was for no reason. Right. So in order for her, if she feel like making herself happy was to go get a tummy tuck or what they call a mommy makeover or whatever they call it. We can't stand in the way of that. You know what I'm saying? The best thing for us to do is support our woman and whatever make her happy. We can share our opinion. We're just an opinion at the end of the day. You know what I mean? Right. I would like to say I'm 35 and no surgeries. She just felt like she wanted to put that out there. I just want to say that. 35. He said no surgeries, so you would never do a surgery? No. Ever? No. No. No boob job? No, none of that stuff? And you don't need it. You look great. I love myself. God made it. God did. I feel like you got to work on yourself from within. Ooh. And in a show. Forced. On the outside. Reality TV and the building. Yes, the realest period. You just heard it from reality TV that you need to be built up on the inside in order to understand the outside anyway. True. True because you can go out there and spend all the money you want to if you still need to be inside. And you're still not going to be happy. We see it all the time. That's why they're so addicted. Going back and going back. Right, they're addicted to perfection. Anybody see that latest picture of Lil Keel? She got another surgery? I don't know. Don't tell me. Please don't tell me. I don't know. Just go check the picture out. Whatever she want to do to make her happy. You're happy Lil Keel. You know what I'm saying? Would you ever do a song about that? The way how society is right now searching for perfection. I think Lizzo was kind of that. You know to show that. That it's okay. Yeah, that you don't have to be perfect. You know what I mean? What you see yourself in the mirror there is a man that's going to find it perfect. You know what I mean? So yeah. I think if I wasn't going there like I want to make a song like this I don't think it probably would come out right. Because I'll be trying. You know what I'm saying? So you need something to motivate you to make your music? It has to touch it. It has to be close to the heart. It has to be organic. You know what I mean? Something to happen naturally. I got you. So what's the next banger that you have coming out? Right now I'm working on my single work. I also have a single call. She Wanna, but you know. Really? Which one is hotter? Which one is hotter? Both of them dope. She Wanna Fuck has one right now over five million streams on it. She Wanna What? She Wanna Fuck. It's for grown women. It's for the women who knows, you know that conversation don't have to be heck. Give me a verse out of it. The hottest verse. The hottest verse? The hottest verse. We can't do that. We can't do that. I was telling you. We can't do that. We can't do that. But on one part of the song it's like you know, just explaining like what it is that a woman want. You don't want to play no games with it. You know what I mean? You don't want no four play. You don't want to do all the kissing. You know what I mean? You just want to get straight to it. You want to get straight to it. You know what I mean? In the song work it's kind of like it's basically explaining to kind of woman that you have to be in order to deal with a guy like me. Basically saying that if you want to deal with somebody like me, you have to be on the same page. You want to go out here and go get it. You can't not be at the house. Sit down being lazy. You got to have go get it mentality yourself. You got to have the opportunity. Like my opportunity should be able to feed your opportunity. Your opportunity should be able to feed my opportunity. You know what I'm saying? And that song is real to your life. Real to my life. As far as like the entrepreneurship. Like I didn't go to school for none of this but I know how to go get a bag. You didn't go to school for this. You know how to go get a bag. We finna figure this out together. You know what I mean? That type of vibe. You understand what I'm saying? Okay. Do you have that special someone? Yes, Loa. So she fulfilled all of that? Yes, Loa. The same thing. Like the same way. Like I'm on the road. Like traveling and doing my thing. She's on the road traveling and doing her thing as well. That's awesome. We love it. How long y'all been together? Six. Six years. Yes. Okay. People in the, in this entertainment industry trying to hold down a steady relationship and you've been into this for six years. How would you advise them how to move and what to do to try to, you know, hold it together? Because it's hard for you to be on the road all the time. And I've heard so many times being able to trust a woman being at home by herself or even being able to take her with you on the road. And, you know, she understands that some of these female fans are going to try to come at me and you can't be trying to be jealous, trying to fight these fans. And, you know, certain things like that. Well, for the C-Fans is from the person who's, let's see if it's like myself, right? Mm-hmm. If the artist is out there going to do this thing, you know what I mean? If you are the significant other, you have to understand that this has been that person's dream before you even came into play. Mm-hmm. So as far as the being on the road, as far as what comes along with it, as far as like groupies and things like that, you have to, that comes with it. Mm-hmm. If you have a foundation at the house and you know that your foundation is solid, you have absolutely nothing to worry about. But if you already, before a person even gets to that level, you already are going to have a rocking situation. You know what I'm saying? So that foundation has to be laid before y'all even step foot into that world. And that foundation has to be laid through communication. Yes, Lord. Yes, Lord. Not only communication because sometimes people can talk, but don't actually follow through with action. Right. So it has to, the action has to be able to back up, you know, to talk. Right, right. Because, you know, you can talk and say this, but then you'd be out here doing stuff and you know what I mean? Right, right. So you have to be able to make that person feel like they are number one, that they're most important. Absolutely. Absolutely. Okay. So this past, yeah. So this past weekend, Cardi B was on the stage performing in Las Vegas. And she got something thrown on her. They said a liquid. Nobody said exactly what kind of liquid or whatever. But when thinking about it, I'm like, somebody who really don't like you as a performer could have something more than just a drink in their cup. It could be acid. It could be their jealousy or whatever. And just throw that on you because you're performing there, they're right there in front of the stage, whatever, they don't care to go to jail or whatever, they're just trying to mess you up. I'm like, how dangerous is it being that performer on stage knowing that, you know, you can be vulnerable because yeah, you have security, but security can't be there that quick. You know how safe it is like you guys are married, right? When you guys go out to restaurants, like you guys are like super extra cautious. He sits with his back to the wall so he can make sure his eyes is on the door and stuff like that. So imagine being a grown man getting into this industry where you know that you have an event or a club or something like that B2 and everywhere that you're going to be, that information is on that flyer. You understand what I'm saying? So if a person don't like you, just like, oh, I don't rock with dude. He's going to be here such and such and such on Thursday. So you always have to have your guard up at all times when they come to this stuff. Like just not on a dolo when you solo by yourself, but when you out in the open most definitely you have your eyes have to be like, you also have to have people that's looking around for you as well was crazy about that. The first time somebody ever happened to me was the other day in, not in Magnolia in Texarkana. That happened? No, no one threw nothing at me, but somebody came on stage while I was performing. Like, I'm like, I'm performing in this girl. Oh girl. Yeah, this lady, she was like under the influence or whatever. Right. But in the middle of me performing, she just walked on stage like, you know, stumbling all around like performing. What did you do? She was like performing Lizzo. Wow. The security got up out and I had to grab to get off the stage. Like, cause he was like, the security was like on stage too, but that was the first time it ever happened to me. Wow. Yeah. Perform Lizzo. I'm like, I don't try to perform. Alright, I got you. It's next. He's coming up. Cause I see things like that where men and men usually like play it off. They usually either start trying to dance with a girl or do something and then wait for security to come and take them off or something like that. It'd be so funny the way how you have to play it off because you can't just stop and be like, unless you're like Cardi B where somebody actually throws something at you, she took that mic and threw it right back. Yeah, at that point it's self-defense. It is. Cause even with the Kevin Gates, Kevin Gates did something like that where a long time ago. Yeah. He was a little more flavor though. Uh, the lady, he said that the lady tried to grab him. They never did show that boy. I don't, I don't. They never did show that boy. That's neither here or there, but if you on stage and a woman try to grab you. Oh, I'm going to get pissed. Yeah. Some man, some man going to love. No, no, not that. In the day, I used to see R. Kelly and Keith Swift. Kevin, Kevin, Kevin are like that. When he talk about eating booty and stuff. But that's, that's at the right time. I'll talk about sprinting and all these other stuff like that. That don't mean come on stage and grab on me. I don't mean you just come up there and just start grabbing somebody. Do men, do men feel like defiled when something right now? Hell yeah. I mean, yeah. You know, because you know, men are like, oh, you're going to love that type of thing. For one, like, you always have to think about what's after this. You know what I'm saying? Because there's a lot of women that come up to me like, of course, you don't want to picture stuff like that. But some of the women they want to put their arms around me and pull me closer like, we can't do all that because you can take this picture from here and do whatever you want to do with this picture. So you gotta be smart about stuff like that. Especially if you have a significant impact on me, man. And then you make up this whole world in your head. Like, no, we're not going to do that. See, I got a question about that, too. As in, like, we're taking pictures. There's one thing I've always wondered because, like, for me personally, if I see a celebrity back then that I would go to and say, hey, I want a picture. I'm going to walk up to you, hey, you know, can I get a picture? Take a picture. Thank you. And I'm gone. I'm not holding no conversation with you. I'm not trying all of that. So I just come to you and say, hey, I want a picture. OK, thank you. And I'm gone. Do you feel some sort of way with a person does not stop to have a conversation saying, who, I love your craft, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Or they feel like, you know, you just used me for a picture. Like, dang, I'm a human being, too, type of thing. No, I never felt like that. And also, like, when it comes out to the conversation, it all depends on the vibe and the environment and stuff like that. Sometimes, of course, thank you for taking that picture. It just, you know what I mean? Because sometimes a person to take a picture with you and then start telling you their whole life story. They'd be like, bro, what am I supposed to do with this information? Like, did you just gave me, like, one dude was like, yeah, bro, my last name, Walker. It was like, like we related or something. Like, what am I supposed to do with that information that you just told me that. But it all depends on the situation. I just don't want to feel like I'm bothering you. I don't want you to feel like a groupie type of thing and all of that. That's my question. I'm going to go right back on to Cardi B because she was, again, I saw another article talking about her and that lady. Tasha Kay. Tasha Kay. Because, you know, that lawsuit and everything, and yes, Cardi B won the lawsuit and she was supposed to pay her the money, but she didn't pay her the money yet because she said, she even did a tweet or Instagram post and said, sis, when I got it, you got it. Don't worry. When I'm up, you're up. But Cardi B wasn't happy going after her personal property about the whole situation. What do you feel about that? You think Cardi B should have sit down and wait? No. No. Tell me about it. I feel like, I feel like God said how and he looked low, right? Mm-hmm. I feel like if you try to cause harm to me because words hurt. Yeah. It's like safe and it's right if somebody with a platform was to say something negative about somebody with an image. Mm-hmm. Those words can go so far and mess up so much. Mm-hmm. You understand what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. You could have ruined my life with some of the things that you have said. Right. But now you want me to have empathy for your life? Mm-hmm. Really, what we do that at? Like, nah, we're not going to do that. If you're going to try, if you could say something that could damage not only my life, my career and the money that I make from this point moving forward, I don't have no empathy for you. Mm-hmm. Yeah, but what would you say? Do you have the proof? Because that's the first thing. I'm like, why would you say things and you don't have the proof unless it was somebody else like a guest or somebody who's on your platform saying certain things that you, you know, you check the guest like, okay, where's the... But she was the one saying all of this stuff. Right. I don't know the whole crop. I don't know what was going on with that. I'm going to be real with you. I don't just know what all happened. I'm a Cardi B fan for sure. I don't really know what I have watched a few of her shows and some of the things she have spoken on, I do agree with. I ain't going to lie. I've seen her do some good shows. I don't know her. But then I've seen her do some bad shows. She's like the Wendy William of podcasting, right? Well, I don't know. I don't know her. I don't know exactly what it was that she said. You haven't seen her. You've never seen her. I know she lost the court. Yeah. She didn't lose the court. She didn't lose the court. If you lost the court, what they said you did? You did. They ain't on their service. You... Comments and stuff. We talking about words and stuff like that. It's not a crime. It's not a crime. Yeah. You going to Swiss town to call black folks in there? No, he didn't. Bro, trust me. Boy, when I say man, I don't have to get some stuff up off me as a young in that I know I have no issues with. Trust me, I know. But when you come out of the comments, you putting something print on line and stuff like that, we know that you said this, man. And these things that you said is not true. Do you think she'll stop or do you think she learned her lesson? Honestly, I'm not really familiar. I just know that what she said, she lost a quote about it. But as far as like her stopping to continue, I don't know her path. You know what I mean? They got to be lucrative if she's still doing it though. Oh, she's got over a million, million subscribers. She up there. And she must have that money because for them to say that she have to pay this much money back in, you know, restitution or whatever, then she must have that money. They see how much money she has. No, they also calculate the damages that you could have caused too. Yeah. But then if I'm broke and you're going to tell me I need to pay it, I mean, how am I going to pay it? Get it in the blood, basically. You got to get it in the blood, man. Let me ask you something, man. The song that I've seen, I want to, you know, I want to, she want to, yeah, all that. But I mean, she want to, how did you come up with this? It says it all. Is this talking about a big girl or small girl? No, I'm just saying. He already broke that. Yeah, we talked about that. We broke it down. We already did that. We already did that. But then what is, what the title is. I'm talking about this song. Yeah, that's what we talked about. Yeah, it's not about the title. It's not about this effort. Okay, what is it about? She said, yeah, he said no foreplay, no none, that's all. Just a woman standing on what it is that she want, you know, not playing around with it. She ain't trying to like do the rose petals and the champagne, none of that. He's like, yo, look, it doesn't have to be a one night stand type of thing. It just, save it like, you know, when you're in a relationship, you married anything like that, you don't always have to be the slow kids in the start on. Let's just get to it. You know, you've been in the house with somebody for a long time, you walk by your old lady's back on the edge real quick. That turns into something else like, did you didn't know it was going to turn into? But that's a foreplay though. I guess you can say that. Yes, Macon, that's foreplay. No, that's the wife tax. When you pass by, you know, don't pass by me, man. If you're not trying to get slapped on the head, it's like, well, I mean, when you look at the music today, man, coming out of Miami, like what are you, what are you, what are you seeing that's that that you liking that's coming out of Miami, the new sound? I like myself. That's it? No, you're wrong, man. There's a lot of artists that's coming out of Miami. Show something about it through love. DB, Breeze, Shawnee, Swain, Soldier, Maze and Artist, got new music coming, a new project coming from them. That's under my label. There's also some other artists from out of Miami that's doing their thing as well. I like Major Nine, he's a producer, Mike Smith is dope. There's a lot of dope people from out of Miami doing their thing. Wow. And in the scenery, man, like you guys supposed to have a live this video with all that water down there. Man, we don't go over about that water. Why? Man, that's like Disney World in Orlando. That's a tourist attraction. We do both stuff whenever we feel like doing something on a regular. Hell nah. Like I tell people all the time it look good, that's some part of Miami but that ain't Miami. But do it still rain when I can't have it rain for five minutes and then it stops. Miami, Miami Brother is by pole. Five minutes. You wake up in the morning, it could be super cool by the afternoon, it's hot by mid-afternoon, it's raining. Yeah. You don't know how to dress Miami. Well, I know one of my work people that be with me, she went down to Miami. I seen some pictures that came up online. I ain't gonna put her out there but she definitely be in Miami. Yes, lord. It's really going down with her because she and her Instagram be popping. Yeah, she was out there in Miami looking for the Hootya Daddy's. I don't think she was looking for the Hootya Daddy's. No, she was looking for the Hootya Daddy's. She done got caught up for a little bit but she bagged it out. She bagged it out. So, man, like what do you think about like, like, like, like, like, like, what do you think about, like, like, OK, you see people, they're getting in relationships now, some people get divorced. Is the divorce rate up? Low? Or is it high? Do you feel like relationships are a big thing? High is social media affecting relationships in your life? I don't think with like with all percentages all percentages is already going to be like the way that you want to see the percentage. So we say like, okay, I hundred percent out of hundred percent of people of people 60 percent of relationships fail because of social media. 60% of the day want you to see, you know what I'm saying? I don't think social media plays a part in grown relationships. Social media play a part in relationships with people who are insecure or people who, say if you ain't got nothing going on, just nothing but a bunch of time on your hand to be sitting there letting things fester and build up in your mind. Like that's the only time social media play a part of your life. You ever met a girl on Facebook? I met my old lady on Instagram. Yeah, met my old lady on Instagram. You got an idea. Yeah, but it was on some business, on some business too. That's his way, that's his way of getting in. That's how he started off. I'm gonna tell you straight up. My old lady, she has the largest plus size model management company in Florida. Well in the South, period. Oh really? Yeah, she put women on billboards all over the country and stuff like that. So when I, when her and I met, cause I was shooting like music videos and stuff, I couldn't have nobody shoot my own music video so I started shooting like for myself. I needed the models. Yeah, well I was like networking and they went from us networking, being on the cool, to us having conversations every day to, turn into something, yeah. That's tough. Yeah, it's compatible. Yeah. What was it about her that stood out to you the most? She had the same type of mindset I had. Like I was going out there to go get it. It was like by any means, with or without a job. And she had that same mindset. That's tough. Let's just break down a little bit of verse. I always do this. Break down the verses on, you know, she wanna, you know what. She asked me to do the same. No, each, I mean not talk, I mean I really want to, I'm gonna go down through there, just give me the first verse and then kind of break it down. Go ahead. Diversa, girl you wanna be licked from the front to the rear. Girl I love when you talking your shit. You wanna be choked while I'm dogging your shit from the back, so you coming all over my dick. Okay. You wanna be fucked on the edge of the bed while the niggas stand up in the pussy. Okay. Come ride my face baby, put it in gear, tell you to sit that shit right on my beard. Now this is where his mind is at. Niggas really on your beard, huh? That's where you wanted it. No, he know them girls are nasty, them girls want it, girls want that. Sometimes, sometimes that being behind the bullshit just don't resonate with someone. Girls love that, yeah. Nah. Okay, now go, okay that's the first verse, what the hook like? What's the hook like? Both legs over like jump man. That's the hook. So we like. Both legs over like jump man, yeah, so yeah. But you know what, when I think about the song you think about what you're saying, I'm like some girls gonna be like, okay we gonna play this and we gonna do every single thing what the song is saying. You know what I'm saying? Like that position, that everything. All right, we gonna get to that. What's the name of the song? So that's it. What did I say after that one? Yeah, you gotta come on with it. Oh baby, you like that nasty shit. You want a nigga to give you that word, want me to suck on that pussy with two fingers in it like I'm trying to see if you squirre. Why is she want to read it hard? You be writing man, you did the Lizzo, you went from Lizzo to this? Man, the beat, I ain't writing the song, the beat broke the song itself. I put the beat from Lizzo to this, nigga. I put the beat on and then she start to write itself. I just put the beat on and then did it on this song. You that went from Lizzo to this, I am what's going on? You are out there bad. You at the strip club with this song? What we doing this way? They going crazy with it right now. They got the beat. How many more women in your DM just because of this song? Be able to, I don't count. He don't look in there either too much, he can't. It's kind of hard to really keep up with the DMs now. I can imagine. But because of the type of song it is, I'm thinking like there'll be like even more. I mean, I get like the, like you know how you click on the DM, it might be a video, you click on the DM, it might be a picture or something like that. Yeah, what about the big girls like when you did Lizzo, like how many of the big girls was really like stretching out, you know, come and see you. Come here. Oh, I love you. The big girls want to get to you. You know, I had a few big girls trying to get to you the other day. No, you were trying. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. No, but the love, like as far as like from the plus size women from like either on down to the smaller women, it's been like the same all the way across the board. Like, you know what I mean? Like say if you're like you'll see in the comments, smaller women say stuff like, oh, I'm not plus size at all, but I feel like you made this song for B2. You know what I mean? So the love has been like the same across the board. Why? That's hard, man. I mean, like I said, man, you, I seen you in that video, I seen you and Goddard, then you and Goddard TV do a video together. I seen him in that video. On my way. Yeah, on my way. What was going on with that? Shut it down here in Dallas. You in Dallas? Yes, Lord, I shot that down here in Dallas. Okay. Matter of fact, you know what's crazy? I shot that video the same day we did the last interview here. And y'all finish shooting another one a day more than life. That's what y'all do. Y'all pivot here. And then that's how we making these free throws, nigga around the zone. Yes, Lord. Yeah. What's the song you gon' do the video for today? Honestly, don't know. We ain't know what video we're shooting for that day. But if you look at the interview I did, which I have on that same exact, Lakers job. Yeah, Lakers job was hard too. We left from here. I appreciate that. I went straight. We left from here and went straight there and did it. Wow. Wow, that's crazy because I'm gonna be real with you. You gotta, that work ethic is something else. Like you guys don't plan, y'all just go and do. Yes, Lord. I think that's important. You know what I'm saying? I really do because the more you work, the more opportunity there is the, you know what I mean? Because visuals are so important. How important are visuals when it comes to projects these days? Man, you got to. I don't know if you seen it earlier. I'm walking around with this. I see you, I see you. I'm trying to do my own blog and this stuff. That's the way you gotta be, bro. You got to, man. Gotta be on me like, bro, look here, man. You gotta make your presence felt. You gotta be online and make sure that these people see you. Hearing your voice is cool, but they wanna connect with you and be able to see you when they wanna see you. So yeah, it's super important. Yeah, but when you blogging and you're doing all that filming, you're not posting it right away, are you? It depends on what it is that I'm on. If I'm at a club, no. I'm posting that when I'm gone, like, you know what I mean? That's when I post that. But a lot of stuff, because I do a lot of editing stuff myself. Like if you watched the She Want to Fuck video at the end of it, say edited by Moon Walker. Oh, you edited yourself? Yeah. I know the actual, the original video for Lizzo, I shot and edited that video myself. Really? Yeah. So, you know what I mean? But with that, you gotta be hands-on to come down to social media. You gotta know how to create this content and be able to turn it out. Because not only you, you can't just be an artist no more. You just can't just create some dope music and just put it out and expect people to just rock with it. Like, no. But people say, the bigger you get and you can't do everything yourself, you have to outsource, you know, a lot of it. You have to, yeah. But when you on the independent level, either you do it on your own or you're not gonna be able to keep up. Because the people that's on the major label, they already have people, they have like these, you know, kids that went to school for stuff, they sitting there creating all type of memes and TikToks for the artist. Just passing it over to him or here and post this, post that, da-da-da-da-da. But when you independent, you gotta know how to shoot a video. You gotta know how to edit. You gotta know how to create your reals. You gotta know how to engage with people, you know what I'm saying? Because you ain't got no label to do it for you. Right. And I always tell people the main reason for doing it is because when you do hire people to do it for you, you can't trust everybody. And sometimes people leave you high and dry. And then if you don't know how to do it, then your career is over. By the time they leave you, you don't know what to do. Right. And you gotta be willing to invest in yourself, no matter how much it is, be it small or a lot, you gotta be willing to make that investment because I'm not gonna invest in you if you're not willing to invest in yourself. That you gotta have that mindset when you're going to even have a conversation with somebody. Like they wanna see what you did to invest in yourself. Right. Well, the thing I gotta really, really focus in on is that if you do the video and you do something that's totally different, show some kind of way of you directing and shooting your own video while being in the video. Let's take this whole game to another level. That's dope. Look at you, man. That's dope. Right here. That's a bad right here, nigga. I should be in a movie telling these things. But I think that would be a dope video that nobody hasn't done anything like that. Real creative, because you always can create two of you and you've seen this done before. It'll be hard. It'll be dope. You gotta take your time, take a little more time, but it is definitely doable. You gonna have him go figure out how to do it? You gotta do it. You know it's hard. I don't know figure out how to shoot myself either. I just gotta figure that part out. Now you gotta be standing here, right? We gotta get somebody with braids. I know how to see them do it. You know in movies they shoot up from the back? We gotta get somebody with dreads in there. Somebody has to shoot from the back. We're in the same thing, yeah? Yeah, you're right. That'll be dope though. We gonna kill him. We gonna kill him, gotta see him eat. Put my name on the paperwork, nigga. Stop playing. Yes, Lord. I need mine. I got something over here. Hey, Lord, something, nigga, I'm in there. Look at that. Yes, Lord. How did you meet Gutter TV? Like how did you guys come together? And how do you guys keep such a great chemistry every time I see you? I think you told a story last time you was on here. Man, it was dope. But the chemistry is dope. It was God. That's hard. God wanted me to know Gutter. You know what I mean? Like true be told, like I was a fan of Gutter before God even knew I existed. Wow. You know what I'm saying? Like for years being able to watch his videos and stuff like that, like one day I was like, I was getting a bunch of calls and stuff from record labels and stuff like that. But it's like, I don't have no representative. And I would tell him over later, I'm like, I don't have a representative like for none of this. And like next day, my initial first manager, Drew, he hit me up with like, yo, I'm rocking with you. This and that, da, da, da, da, da. So Drew came into play. Boom, we rocking. Yo, my boy Gutter, he wanna check you out. Da, da, da, da. Gutter came into play now. Gutter and Drew. Wow. But it was God, man. Like God wanted that to happen because I spoke it. Like I was like, man, I don't have a manager. And next to you know, like a couple of days later, I have a management team. That's the way it go. Shout out to Gutter. That power went into her life. It's long. All that. It's long. You know, the thing I look at is just, you gotta have a structured team. I keep talking about structure lately to have the right group of people around you for the way it needs to go, for everything, for you to get that to conquer what you're trying to accomplish. Right. Chemistry and a team and a structure. I got reality TV and I got Terry Cherry, Miss Jamaica, Money Moses. That's the team. Right. That's it. You know what I'm saying? But you gotta have a structure around, you know, low so come in every 90 and different people, you know, but the core team is always around me. And then to make your worst person, your best worst person, that's big. Right, right. And then if people give up on people, instead of making your worst person, your best worst person. Right. Do you think that's a thing or what? Do you know about team? I think you had to play as a person in strength, but also too, like you say fans is right, you may not know what your value is, you know what I'm saying? Let a lot of person to put you where they feel like, you know what I mean? Where they feel like you might be valuated. If you know, you're not valuated, bro. This is not, you know what I'm saying? Find something else for me to do. But also at the same time, like if you see that your friend got some motion, pick up something and do something. Don't just expect for somebody to just pick you up and just take you with them. Like nah, like if you know that you don't know nothing about t-shirts or whatever, start looking into it. So that you could be the go-to guy when you got to get the merchant stuff like that. Know what I mean? Somebody else, okay, cool. We got to carry crates. We got to carry bags. Carry bags, you know what I'm saying? But do something. Don't just sit around somebody and just expect for that opportunity to just be given to you, nah. That's real. Look, how important is it? I see you got like 80,000 and some subscribers on the YouTube. How important is it for you to establish your own brand and your own YouTube and your own, you know what I mean? Just your own social media and knowing how to work and maneuver inside of those tools. Well, I tell people all the time, things like YouTube, for one, YouTube is like having your own TV channel. Know what I'm saying? Yeah, your views are going to be big. They're going to watch everything that you put on this platform. Know what I'm saying? The same thing with social media. What I'm saying is like super important because back in the day, in order to have your video shown, you had to go to like world star. Know what I'm saying? You couldn't go to YouTube and just hit the upload button and upload it yourself. Know what I'm saying? If we didn't have, like right now you can upload a whole music video on Instagram. You can upload a whole music video on Facebook. Back in the day, those options wasn't available. Know what I'm saying? So now that you do got these options, fully take advantage of it. Know what I'm saying? Wow. There's things that happen like, like you see the good things that YouTube has shorts, right, not shorts, but have story. They took that away. Who else had some? Instagram had IGTV. And then they took that away, right? Things are always changing. How important is it to stay up on your tools? What's the most relevant? Your reels, whatever it may be, whatever they're trying to do, the way they're trying to maneuver. How important is it to stay? And I'm giving game, y'all. So y'all better understand right now I'm giving it to you. Super important. Cause there's a lot of people that stuck in their old methods of doing things those old methods aren't working. Like I'll be straight up and down with you. If I've known social media, like the way to use and really utilize it earlier, I probably would have been known a hell of a lot sooner. Like I didn't know TikTok like that. Like I told myself when I started to push Lizzo, I was gonna push Lizzo the song for a year. I was gonna be on Instagram for six months and I was gonna transfer over to TikTok and then do the six months. I didn't really know TikTok like that. Know what I'm saying? So when I got over to that platform, I really had to study it like, what is this button does? What is this? Who's going here? How do I get this out more? So I really had to study it in order for it to pop. It didn't take long. Cause like I thought I said, I got the month. It went off on TikTok. How did you like threads when they added it into Instagram? Threads. To be honest with you, I don't even know what threads look like. You haven't been out there yet. I'm not cause like I said, same thing with TikTok. I'm not one of them people that when a new social media platform comes out and that once again, if I was up on things like ahead of time and like moving with the times, I probably would have been known quicker. But I'm not one of them people that when a new social media platform comes out, I got to act like a part of the end crowd and jump on board. Like no, I'm gonna let y'all go figure that out first. And then y'all tell me what y'all rock it with. If you know what I mean, if it's something I should be rockin' with. I never like Snapchat either. I thought Snapchat was like stupid. Cause some people, some people say they don't like threads because it's attached to your Instagram. So if for some reason you do mess up on threads or whatever they try to block you, they'll block both your Instagram and your threads cause they're connected. Yeah, but like you can't delete your threads and count y'all delete your Instagram, that's what. Yeah, so you can't mess up on either one of them. They both got the same criteria. Right, they said a 360 deal. 360 deal, got a 360 deal. So do you think like, I mean, I don't know if I agree with that. I mean, you better make you a dummy thread or something just in case. So you can be on top of what you need to be on top of to understand if it pop off. You know what I mean? So I think learning those tools early is important because if it is something that's valued then you wanna be able to leverage soon as it's time. So you need to know those tools. I've tried to stay out of stuff. And a lot of times I got caught slipping and I lost my weight like you two. Certain things we need to be on top of. I was recording but not putting it there and not taking it serious. So we gotta do things in a way to where we least investigate it when it come out the door. To say, oh, it's this, oh, but it changed to that. It's just like if you were gonna buy real estate you wanna check on the market while the market is high so you know when it dropped what the value is of what you're trying to purchase. So it's the same thing. You just gotta know how to maneuver without inside the RAM not to expose yourself in a way to where it hurts your brand. Right. Well with Threads, it was a little different for me because Threads was initially supposed to be Twitter's replacement. So to me it was like, really? You about to take over Twitter. There ain't nobody for to leave Twitter. Like a Twitter been around with just words forever. Like you know what I'm saying? So I wasn't in a rush to rush over the Threads. If I didn't even know if Threads was leaving gold cause you know how many companies tried to take down Twitter tried to replace Twitter and it was just like, come on man. Yeah, but it wasn't marked though. It wasn't marked in China. It wasn't marked in China. You're right. That's a different picture. That's a different picture. A hundred million people. I was watching at the people that it was accumulating and that's it. Because you gotta understand that's your fan base. She got a little bit of something about that. They over there. So it's like your whole, you got people over there. Go to TV, you got people over there. Everybody got people over there and it's like that's your fan base. They there. So how do I make sure that they know that I'm everywhere they go? You might be absolutely right. You know what I'm saying? This is a hustle. Yeah, you're absolutely right when you couldn't have to make it that dummy account. Like say, I got a dummy moonwalk account that I was very involved in. Check it out. It's a fan page that can pitch whatever and just do the hustle. Yeah, look at that. Were you on a Twitter, were you a Twitter person? Were you on Twitter? I was never a Twitter person. I'm still trying to get the hang of Twitter right now. That's another reason you need to go over there though. You can take this in. It's a little bit easier. Might pop for you. Twitter, I'm gonna be able to last on Twitter. My page will get flagged on time. I don't know how they flagging your page where they naked and doing everything on that or no. Every time I go on Twitter is a different ass with my music. I'm like, y'all trying to get my page bad. Like what the hell going on? I'm telling you they off the chain on Twitter. Snapchat too. Snapchat too, Snapchat got a situation over there where they x-rated, your son probably being played over there in the overtime. I'm pretty sure it is. Twitter turned to porn, man. Yeah, it ain't just a porn site. I'm not gonna say that I'm boss talk on or what. Now we're not gonna do that, huh? But you was gonna call it. You got some nice ads and stuff rolling over there. You got some nice, you got nice, y'all it's nice over there, let's be real. You've seen some nice stuff over there, right? The ads is nice. Like, you got nice stuff being displayed over there. Stay on that thing, man. It's like, okay, Snapchat is like life. You got a good and you got a bad. It's just what you looking for. That's Instagram too. You see what I mean? But you know what, I look on social media whereas like Facebook and all of that, I look at it as like a big old bully because I remember I met this lady once, right? And she's a white woman and her name was Karen. So she said she used to have a Facebook page. Well, she said she had to disconnect her Facebook page because people under bullying her talking about you Karen and saying just all sorts of stuff to her. And she's an older white lady. They call her Karen. I'm like, that's her name but they was talking all sorts of stuff, bad stuff. She's a really nice, sweet lady. And I was like. I'm so messed up. And I was like, are you serious? Just catching a stray for no reason. She said some of them is strange but a lot of them is family too. That's messed up. Your family's too. Why is that? So I mean, when it boils down to it, man, like you come to Dallas, man, and you come by boss talk on the one. It's love, man. Every time. And it's like, I mean, when you come to Dallas though, how are you liking it out here? Cause you, this year, how many times have you been here now? I can't even call it. But you, so you know the calls, you kind of know the streets. That means that the love. You been in South Dallas, you been out clear. Man, gotta take me all the way to the world. Man, man, man, man. Gotta take me all the way to the world. Last night, my boy tried to take me to a taco spot, right? Is that down there in New York City? Yeah. You like, yeah, man, we gotta take you there. I'm like, bro, I been here. Like, what are you talking about? Like, you act like you put me up for something. I've been here already, bro, like. But yeah, the love is always, it's always big. It's always huge when I come in, man. I'm connected to a lot of dope artists that's here as well. Put Money Mose over here. I gotta give him some time over here. I need him. I need him. Come on, Money. Money Mose, come over here. I need you over here. And his Hawaiian shirt. I promise. Don't matter. That nigga just coming in on vacation. I got this, you know what I'm saying? Come on, Money Mose, just come on in the building, man. Stop playing, man. Money Mose has been on vacation. He was in Hawaii. This nigga been in Hawaii. Yeah, y'all don't understand. Moonwalkers in the building. He listened to the song and he know the song because he like girls that's got a little size on them, too. Okay. It had to switch. It had to switch. I don't think he would discriminate. I think he was saying something about BBLs or about all the different things that go on with these women when they change their body, too. You know, he's had experiences with that. No, they had no experience with that, bro. I think they just don't look at their kids when they doing it. How their kids body's gonna be. I thought you ain't never had a woman that had one. Never dated nobody that went through a surgery? Huh? No. No. No. I didn't know what you said. Have you ever dated somebody that went through surgery, BBLs? Huh? Huh? You say, oh. Well, yeah, that's the question. Ah! Ah! That was us. Huh? Huh? I was just worried that the way he should be. Yeah, though, that's not the problem, though. The problem is that they don't look at their kids like the body didn't change. So it wasn't no major change to it. So I'm not looking at them. I'm talking about the ones that got major changes to their bodies. Like, they go on from 300 pounds to 180. But it might be life-threat, man. I mean, that's understandable. If it's like a 30 day, you're supposed to go get it. He went all the way down to that. No, that's 120 pounds. That's not a lot of... Yeah, it is. That's a whole purse of youth, that's it. Literally. But, dang, that ain't crazy to develop. Man, that is crazy. That ain't right, right? It's crazy. Hold on. It's crazy when you're starting to do it when everybody else do it. Right, right. When you take the surgery, you take the surgery right. Yeah, you feel like they should have been dead. Don't wait till everybody else do it until they be accomplished. I seen this one girl with little pitted lead with a big old butt. I couldn't feel little pitted lead, big old butt. You know what I'm saying? It's on the social media. Well, it's a lot like that. I don't see it. I say, what the hell is going on? Like, I know she... They went to the bullet. It just don't look normal for like a lot of time. I know it's pressure on the leg. I don't know. I don't know. It'll be overdoing. Is it heavy? Different type of surgeries and stuff. Well, I don't know, but little pitted lead, big old butt. You know what I'm saying? It ain't good. Nah, nah, it's hard, man. So when you hear like different things going on, Money Mose, I mean, you've seen this show. You've been on this show numerous times. You are from another Hawaii. Where you been? Because you got this, you got this damn... What is going on with what you dressed in, man? It's really because it's hot outside. Aw, hell, you ain't never... You been on vacation, man. I ain't got no vacation. I ain't got no vacation. I just want to let you know I've been on vacation. Where you been? But I just came back to... You got that money, didn't you? Nah, I ain't got no money yet. Nah. I ain't got no money yet. Well, I'm gonna be real with you, man. Like, you definitely, man, a lot of people been asking in the comments, like, where you been at? Where at Money Mose? He be gone all the time. Tell me it's a real life struggle. Okay, okay. Last time you was on here with Chico Bean. Now you're on here with Moonwalkal. Let's go. This is my first time here with him. Ooh, Moonwalkal, Chico. You was on here last time. That's what I'm talking about again. Girl, I ain't been gone for a minute. He didn't go for a minute. Yes, Lord, yes, Lord. So, Brigham was on here last time, too. Yeah, Brigham was, too. So, we showed that man love last time. Yes, Lord. But that's hard, man. I like it when a player come together like the A-team run. It's all... You know what I'm talking about? Yes, Lord. Man, so, Terry, Terry, you was here last time. No? Come on up in the screen. We got to show Moonwalkal love, baby. Let's talk about it. Let her say... Watch my camera. Well, let her say... Come over in the middle of them. Come on, girl. I want to ask... Because you're going to ask some questions. Now, just in the middle right here. Uh-uh. Y'all both can't get a damn mic. Yeah, they can. They little enough. Yours ain't all, baby. Believe it or not. They can put them together. Turn it toward us. It's directional. She found a talent. Her voice loud enough. Yeah, let's go. I can't see her, but on that camera right there, maybe. Y'all already know what it is. Now, get in the middle. Shoot her over. Scoot over, sir. Not you. You're good. It's her. She didn't scoot at... Watch out. What the hell you want me to do? I'm about to knock that man like you down. There we go. Can y'all see me? Now, her face blocked on this side. Well, it's cool. It's good. It'll work. Let me turn this camera. I'm scooting in. Hey. I always know what it is, Terri. Motherfucking Terri. Terri, you here with Moonwalk. Moonwalk, are you all right over there? Or they didn't push you out the way? No, we good. You know, they aggressive. Hey, what was Moonwalk? They're a little bit of a mountain out there. They just y'all love aggressive. Hey, man, I already seen it. You heard the lyrics to it, sir. You were sitting back. Moonwalk just performed in our hometown, Friday. What? Yeah. You was there. Ask me, you fire us out right now until it's counter-strengths. You know, until it's counter-strengths. Oh, damn. East Texas? You still a lot of East Texas? Man, yes, Lord, I had to pull up, man. Man, that's hard as hell. You don't want me out of me, bro. Yeah, I thought Kyle was me. And that's why the girl got on the stage with you. Man. Shout to the dapper. Oh! That was dapper, you hear me? Yes, Lord, it was at the dapper. Yeah, I know. Yes, Lord. Man, how you know all this, Terri? You know I know everything. But she tapped in. You hear me? So let me ask you this, Terri, Terri. So when you heard this song, did you, how did you feel about the lyrics? Here we go. She got a little bit of a stomach. That's okay. Wait a minute, wait a minute. When you heard the song, did you feel like, okay, this song left me out? Or did you feel like this song was all about me and I loved it? Let's be real for a minute. Now, I love the song, because I mean, that survived. Like, everybody don't sing them up for it. Like, you know, like, Terri got a song. I appreciate it. Something like that. You know what I'm saying? But you know what? You could have put out a little thicker thigh. Because you just said, now I'm about to get a girl, you said she got a little bit of cake. And you can tell, I ain't got no cake. But I got a little, no, I got pancakes. You feel it? Well, you know, it's the song. But it don't matter. With Bumble, I'm jigging in, a little bit of pancake, that's okay. She'll let me, you know what I'm saying? I would have felt like that. Those are the words. But you know. But it would have been Carl Lizzo if he would have did it. He said cake, pancake. Hey, the song wasn't for you though. You know what I'm saying? The song wasn't for you. I got songs for you. The song was about body positivity, body positivity and appreciation as a whole. I love it anyway, you know. I made a couple videos here, songs. Oh yeah? Yeah. I appreciate it. You danced on it. Some skinny girls got stomachs too now. You said what? Some skinny girls got stomachs too. Now look, we're trying to figure it out. We ain't got enough money to go get B-B-W-S. You don't have to. What are you doing? What are you doing? Get a what? B-B-W-S. What's that stand for? I'm like, really just kind of made it good. You know what I'm saying? B-B-W-S. Hey, just took it. Yeah, just took it. Yeah, like the big guy right there. Just took it. Some skinny girls on the thing. We were about to just open me a pack. We were about to try and took them in. Exactly. Man, hold up. Open me a pack. Move on. Move on. Move on. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Tell us. How can people get a hold to you? Because these niggas them took over the show. Man, moon.walk on Instagram and also all social media platforms. And I'm also on all your streaming platforms as well. Let me tell you something. It's going down over at Boss Talk 101. We have people like Moon Walker, Pull Up, Show Us Love out of Miami. He flew in just for the interview just so y'all know that. Me too. He rocked with us, man. And Money Moses came back from Hawaii. He didn't even know it. He came from somewhere, but I don't know what was going on. Thank you. Hold on. Before we go, I have a quick question. Is it, why are you growing your hair that long? It's been too long? Why do I? Nah. Nah, this is, you can tell. So you just been growing it? Yeah, initially, yeah, it's all mine. Initially when I first started growing my hair it's because like my mom had planted my hair like right before she had passed away. So the plants I had in my hair, I just let it lock and grow. Okay. And I had like a little issue with the police and stuff like that. So to go to court, I cut all my hair off and started all over. Oh really? It's just, yeah. Well, I'm trying to grow mine out like this. It might take a couple years, so I'm using brains. I got a question. It ain't been that long. I'm asking all these trips. So you're from Miami. Are you a Miami Heat fan? Yes, Lord. I'm a Miami Heat supporter. Not a fan. Anything that's like from Miami, I'm like, this is in me. I'm not like no down heart like yeah, like D-Way, Bosh, da, da, da, like that. I'm a Lakers fan. But, and it come down, just Lord. But when it come down to the Heat, if they play against anybody in the world, team heat all day, just Lord. Wow. Hey man, thank you for coming on the show man. Hey man, money most appreciate you for pulling back up man. You been in, where was you at? I got, I don't worry about that. I got some fun though, but it's off the show. Oh, okay. It's gonna get you love from both girls. Damn, he got a song. He wanted to try to mix you. At the same time. What girls? Whatever girls he wants. He's talking about the big girls. There you go. No, listen, listen, he's talking about the big girls we get, I mean the little girls, we get mad at them because of some of these men. It's like, hold on, it don't, I'm finna put it together with them, I get mad at all. Then come together. Okay, go. Wow. All right then, man. It's been aight man, listen man, Boss Talk 101 makes you guys like and subscribe. Been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. What a boss this dog. Yes Lord. We out.