 Well, very good morning to you. Welcome back. This is why in the morning it is a pleasure being with you today on this particular Monday morning You're just in time for the next conversation of the day and it's all about goal-setting and dream alignment How can you set the right goal for you for yourself? How can you best align your dream with what you desire and what are the Determinologies that we are looking at here. How do you know how can you differentiate between the short-term goals the long-term goals and Dream we well they say all dreams are valid. Yes But then at the end of the day, how can you align yourself with the right dream? Well, ladies and gentlemen today I am with a sefunjo Vanessa a war. She is a from Japan get the Djenga youth Nairobi She's the chapter lead caribs Anna Vanessa. Thank you very much. How are you? I'm fine. Thank you. You look lovely Thank you so much. You're well. Yes. I'm well. Yes, now. Yes Now remember we are coming to you laugh from the broadcasting house here in Nairobi, Kenya It's all about youth and career talk and as you continue with this conversation Remember we are so streaming live through our website www.kbc.co.ke Fourslash Y 254 that is www.kbc.co.ke Fourslash Y 254 engage with us. The hashtag is why in the morning ask your questions when it comes to setting the right goals Ask because this will help you in your career The hashtag is why in the morning tag me at Ram Aguko and that Y 254 channel is where you can be able to engage with There's also let us know where you're watching us from. Okay, even as go as you ask your questions, Vanessa is here to answer them Cindy or absolutely now let's first of all start Why is goal setting important? What what makes it so significant in the life of a youth right now, especially this agent time I think at this age and time For I use like myself and the rest of you know the people in my bandwagon I think it's important because it gets to a point where you realize that hey We're not just here for games and fun as you get to a point where by there's so much pressure And you start asking yourself. Why is my life headed to what am I going to do in the next five years? And everyone you meet is asking you Where do you see yourself in the next five ten years and most of the time you realize you might not even have an answer for that Why is that maybe because you have not had that thought process and you have not put your thought in order to see Like hey Vanessa, what would you want to do five years from now? What do you want to do next week? What do you want to do tomorrow to make a difference between who you are today and who you are tomorrow? So I think it's important to give you that perspective to give you a clear vision of where your life is headed to And where you're going as a youth As a youth, that question it has reminded me of a conversation many people always have I don't know if some have it, people who have just started dating and they ask themselves Where do you see each other in the next five years? And that's when things get tricky Because now your partner is asking you a question where they see themselves in the next five years Or is asking you where you see yourself in the next five years And you don't know whether it's a trick question You don't know whether it's a trap or not But it's important because when you set your goals right you can go to predict how far you can go Absolutely In a few years time That's so Now let's get to know this When it comes to goal setting What are some of the tips that we need to have just briefly The tips we need to have that can help us to set the right goals for ourselves Like those guidelines that we can have so that we don't end up mixing one thing with another Right, like I'd say when you're setting your goal first of all you need to know yourself You find yourself entangled between You find yourself in a conundrum whereby you're trying to look at your neighbor or your best friend Or even your boyfriend or your girlfriend at that point in time And you're trying to look at where they are And you're trying to be in that competition and you don't realize that you're in your own lane So the moment you are very mixed up You will find yourself borrowing goals from other people And at the end of the day as you seek to fulfill them You will not find that satisfaction because it's not what you wanted to begin with Because you're copy pasting someone else's dreams Yes, and that is very common So is it bad to say that I would like to be like somebody? No, so that's different because now that's a point of inspiration You know the entire haze on social media right now and everyone is like Social media is fake and it's leading to depression And it's leading to you downgrade yourself as an individual It's because you're not looking at the other person as an inspiration You are looking at them, you want to be like them One of my very hard say someone I look up to in the social media space She says, look I'm not perfect, there are things you can borrow But borrow them and in the meantime remember to be yourself even as you borrow those So it's basically really important for you to It's really important for you to Even as you seek to look for inspiration from other people Remember to be yourself as you set your goals That's the first thing, very important And then after that That's when after you realize who you are and what you want out of life It's easy to pen them down Remember you're told it's easier for you to write your goals down It's easier for you to track them You can see last week you wrote this and you did not actually get to fulfill it So you can actually track your So write them down Absolutely, write them down Now where do you write them? You know some people write these goals in sticky notes And then they stick them on their wall Some have them in notebooks Others have them maybe somewhere near their bed Where do you write? Is there a particular place that is good? Because you don't want to also lose your paper Your piece of paper Yes, I'd not say this is a specific formula for that However, I'd recommend a few tips here and there What is taking over our current U3M right now Is something called a vision board It's something I have, it's something my friends have And it's something that has proven to work over the years So a vision board is one where you can put your goals down The only difference between putting your goals down in a vision board And putting your goals down in a journal Is that a vision board is more visionary You can actually see what you want to get at the end of the day So when I say at the end of, for example By the end of this year I want to have graduated, right? So a vision board actually has a picture of maybe a graduation gown So you can actually see it And you can put it on your wall Others prefer to journal and it's okay Others have a diary where they put it down and it's okay The sticky note group, it's also okay As long as you can be able to actually store them And be able to trace them, sit down one day and say Okay, let me see my progress since January So what have I done, what have I not done Whether it's long term or a short term goal So you get a vision board Yes And how can you make it? Because now people come from different backgrounds Is it possible to get a vision board from the comfort of your home How can you make your own regardless of where you come from Yes, a vision board You can actually do it yourself It's very budget friendly You just did a cardboard And for those who can't afford a cardboard You can use a box So what you do is You just cut out a box Whichever size fits you And your goals Depending on how many goals you have And then you can go online Download the pictures you want That are relevant to those goals that you have So if it's graduating Get a graduation gown If it's traveling on a plane For those who want to get on the plane for the first time Get a picture Get a picture of a plane You stick it there Yeah, just stick it there And just put it on your wall And every day in the morning you wake up And you remind yourself Okay, this is the goal This is the prize For the year, for the month, for the week But the problem is now Every day you wake up And you see that and this discourages you Does it mean you set the wrong goals for yourself? Perhaps if you feel discouraged Okay, it's two ways You might feel discouraged Because maybe you set the wrong goal And you should go back and retrospect into that Or you could also check your mindset Because sometimes it's all about the mindset You feel discouraged Not because you cannot do it But because you feel like you're not enough And you're not worthy That goes back to who you are as a person And how you feel about yourself And that's what I said in the beginning You have to know what you really want And not depend on what other people think you want So that way you cannot in your own capacity This is what I can get Your parents might want you to come back home With a first class But you know your struggle And you know how you cope in school So your vision board The moment it reads first class And you know very well It's a struggle for you And you know your capability As you know like who you are Then it becomes a problem That's when you feel discouraged So sometimes it's basically You describe it because you know very well It's not something that has come from within you It's something that you have borrowed Or society has put pressure on you Like proposed to her before 30 Get a wife before 30 It's not something you'd want, you know But perhaps because society has said so And now it's on your goal Or it's on your vision board You won't even want You won't even love this wife It's just because you know Society has said so The moment it's something that you want from within I think it becomes easier And the issue of downplaying yourself Becomes a history Because now you've brought in A very important point here You do something because Somebody else wants you to do them Many are doing courses that They didn't plan on doing Somebody chose their course for them And of course the question is How does that How deep can that affect Someone's own personal goals Because now you want me to do this course But I don't want to do that course How deep can that affect That someone's goal And as you answer that You'll also let us know For those who started doing something Because someone else forced them Or they were obliged Because of circumstances to do that Is it possible for them to still Realize themselves into their own goals Later on Yes, I'd say absolutely Okay, first of all I feel like the concept of People kind of choking down What they think is best for you Down your throat It's very destructive This is why You find that you had a goal You want to be a chef You want to be a chef for example You want to spend your first four years In campus doing a course for your parents Right After you take the degree back home That's when you say Okay, now I can proceed to do what I wanted To do in the first place So first of all there's an issue of time lapse There So you find that you've spent so much time Doing something that you would not necessarily Have wanted to do If it was up to you Right So there's that There's that heat You find that You even blossom later Compared to your peers Because now you start Your journey starting after everybody else Has kind of finished Yeah But I'd say it's totally okay To realign yourself It's never too late It's never too late Again the issue of timelines I think it's just a blur The society has created To put pressure on people This thing of someone saying Ah When zaku ame wo ame When zaku ame wo lewa Whom I find it Did you set the right goal For yourself Yeah You can even attest the fact That the people who are usually Forced into Let's say A good example Because I've seen the consequences Marriage You find that You know When ame wo lewa And everybody's pressuring you But the moment you get into that Marriage Are you even happy No you're not Okay ten years down the line You're divorced You have to Go back to square one So it's It's a concept I've always had an issue With Because I feel like It's derailing most people And it's fairly they use Because the pressure begins The moment you hit 18 Okay What's going on Why do you see yourself So it's It's highly most likely That there'll be that pressure And that pressure will lead To someone doing something That you want to do in the first place The consequence of this Is that this person Will be dragged down by society By the time they're Realigning themselves It might be It might be I don't say let It might be They might have taken some time But I feel like It's still okay to go back And realign yourself At the end of the day Self-realization is the goal Even if you're 40 50 So long as you Get that point Where you realize who you are And what you actually want Out of life And I think that's The most fulfilling thing I don't even I don't even know I don't even know Why their time Stumps to that But I think the moment You have that Value of self-realization You'll be good to go No matter the time And It's still going to be possible For you to realign Your dreams Well Regardless of the time Absolutely Now How can you rate success? How can you say that I have been successful in my goals? You know When do you say That you are successful? Because now many have Set goals for themselves But You know Some are achieved Others are not achieved At what point Should I say that I'm a successful person In your view In my humble opinion In my opinion Honestly And how I usually Operate as an individual And this has kept me going It has kept me from Getting into depression It has kept me from Self-degrading myself Or devailing myself Because I haven't fulfilled ABC I feel like I rate success Even with that one thing That I said I'd do And I have done I might have had A to-do list of ten things Yes But if I managed to Tick even just one I pat myself on the back I mean We live in a society Where by It's very hard to get Even a compliment Of hey you're doing great I love what you're doing Keep doing what you're doing So you're your only Cheer person If you have others You're pretty lucky But you realize that You are your cheer person If you do not pat yourself On the back No one else You pat your back For you So for me Success is Even that one thing I said yesterday I'm going to do it And I've done it I'm going to say good job Vanessa You have done well for yourself I should not say that Because I've not achieved this Okay If you have ten goals You've achieved one Yes Are you successful As opposed to somebody Who has achieved nine And failed in one Again the issue of self comparison Comes in there Because you realize Instead of looking at Okay this is what I've done You're like Okay what has he done And you get so demoralized Because If we start sitting down And comparing Your mates Who are even in campus right now I know we're still in school But you find someone is working Someone has a side hustle Someone is getting money So the moment you sit down And you try to like compare yourself It becomes a problem So that's why it's very important To just Realign yourself And focus on what you are doing It's good to be challenged Don't misinterpret what I'm saying It's good to be challenged By other people But don't let it get into your head In such a manner that now It's an issue of I'm not good enough He is better Or she is better So for me Even that one thing I consider it a success And the rest We'll figure it out We're all figuring it out So do not feel the urge Of feeling less worthy Just because you're not On that path yet Yeah And now For many people who have Now started Let's say they Planned to achieve something And then at some point They had to change Their plans Their dream was to be Ex But now at some point Because of life Life happens And Nairobi can treat you Now you leave that dream You had initially And do something else How should this person Understand This particular conversation That we're having here today How can we bring in that individual Who had to leave one goal For another Because life happened Yeah So I think From a realist point of view Because you know Goals are beautiful Just like laws Laws are beautiful on paper Statutes are beautiful But the implementation It becomes a problem Right So I feel like The goals are nice To keep you on track And to make you not forget Where you are headed to Who you are in the first place However If it comes to a point Where you realize You're going like I planned There's no working for me And I have to survive So I have to adapt I have nothing against that Like honestly I believe I honestly subscribe To the school of thought That you do what is required You make hay where the sun shines At that point in time If it's required of you To do that thing And it's illogical for you To keep holding on to a goal That is probably Impossible to keep Roll with it Whatever floats you As long as You do not forget The real purpose You might A goal might be postponed But do not cancel it You can postpone it But don't cancel it For anything Don't cancel it So it's okay to postpone And say Okay I will achieve this later Start doing something else But if possible Go back to your original goal If possible yes If possible Yes Now when it comes To that particular aspect What would be your piece of advice To that person Who is watching you today And they are about to Today people are We are starting the journey Of the KCPE Yes I remember sitting by KCPE It was It was Yeah But there is Somebody There is a young person Who is watching you today And they have Finished They are done with the examinations They are now at home And they are standing They don't know what next They don't know which course to choose Yes They don't know which career To align themselves in They don't know how to set their goals right What would be your piece of advice To that particular youth I'd say I'd answer that question As I reflect back to Who I was at that point in time And I tell you There was so much pressure And you think This is the end If I can't choose a course This is the end of my life And I'm not going anywhere after this And even if you said Okay it's 400 In international school And you get 370 And now you have to go to provincial school You feel like your life is going to end But for that particular group I'd honestly say Like from experience What I'd tell a 13, 14, 15-year-old me Is like It's okay Take it easy on yourself You might not be able to achieve All these things You're only 15 honey You're only 13 It's okay not to have it all figured out I'm 22 I can tell you I don't have it all figured out And at that time I did not have it figured out So it's totally okay for you To be in that kind of confusion Do not beat yourself down You will figure it out with time And as for those who are selecting courses It's a conundrum I know I was there I've been there However if you know what you want To go for it If you do not consult There are people who see you And they can actually tell you Like hey you can do this And you have not thought about it But the moment they pitch that idea to you You start thinking about that And along that line So be open Be open to ideas and suggestions If you do not know where you're headed to And if you do Kindly go for it Run with it Run with it But at the end of the day Just don't be hard on yourself We don't all have it figured out Wonderful I want us to bring this to a close But before we do that Gijenge Yes Let's talk about the Gijenge What is Gijenge all about? Gijenge Youth Organization It's a CBO And it's also a YBO It's a community-based organization It's a youth-based organization So Gijenge's main aim I'll just summarize It's to make society a better place So you find that the programs we indulge in Are majorly aimed at Helping Either the less fortunate Helping those in need Or helping those who do not have a voice for themselves When I talk about Gijenge You'll hear programs like Gender-based violence You'll hear programs like Mental health Which is now a conversation that is emerging And I'm so happy about it You'll even hear about street kids We will ask other organizations To help them out of that situation Out of the streets And even if we can Even get them into the entrepreneurship Line of thought Or line of life So Gijenge is all about We are all inclusive We have a girls program And we have the boys program as well So we are focused Everything around SGB Everything around menstrual health Everything about sexual and reproductive education Everything about mental health And also we do some bit of environmental work So we plant trees We clean the streets Can you just give me just a brief A glimpse of the girls program And the boys program So they are taught separately Yes, they are taught separately But they are taught separately So they take all of them together Yes, absolutely But something like menstrual health Because it's majorly It's majorly affecting the girls You find that we focus mainly on The girls when we are delivering on that program Issues of sexual and reproductive health Of course it's both But we teach them separately Because sexual and reproductive health for girls Is a tad bit different From sexual and reproductive health for boys But of course in some aspects We do bring them together Because in matters of sexual and reproductive health Is something that's common to every single person And then the boys program Majorly we We implemented the streets program for the boys Because we realized in Kisumu Because Kisumu is the motherland for the program There are so many street kids and their boys So that program was majorly brought in for them And of course the program around Entrepreneurial skills whereby we train Them We find maybe experts or professionals In that field who can volunteer To train them And then they can be brought into the entrepreneurial Space so that they can be able to find That financial freedom they need to get out of the streets Something along those lines, yes Vanessa, you're doing a good job Thank you How can we find you on social media Because now you've talked to the youth And you've engaged with them And they want to get a hold of you Yeah, we're on Instagram as Djenga Youth Organization We are on Facebook as Djenga Youth as well And we also have a YouTube channel It's called Djenga TV Yes Djenga TV Yes Thank you so much for coming Thank you I wish you the best Thank you And I love the fact that you talk about Gold setting And from today I believe that from home You're going to set up your goals Vanessa Messema It should be personalized Exactly It should be personalized You said we'll write it down Yes You said we also do what? We put it on Give it timelines, yes Give it timelines Don't let it be vague, you know There's something you said Before you said give it timelines That's a board Oh yeah, put it on a vision board Yes, that's what I was looking for A vision board And of course you said give it a timeline Yes You said that in case you leave one goal For another Don't drop that one Go back to it later on Post-poll it Don't cancel it Post-poll and don't cancel Yes I'm looking for a part two for this We should talk about this Thank you for coming Vanessa Thank you so much Asante Yes That was just to the end of this Particular conversation Writing on why in the morning But we still have more Lined up for you Coming up in a bit Keep it Y254