 Let's go. Yeah, man, let's do it. Check it, check it, check it. It's a unique hustle. It's your boy, E.C.O. and I'm here with the lovely, amazing official, Mr. Mako. What's going on? Not, not, you know, my dad will walk on. Man, y'all already know what time it is, man. My guy's here, man. It's going down, man. I ain't going to play with y'all, man. Y'all know what it is, man. T-Rail is in the building. I'm in her. Man, it's good to see you, man. Man, why you be so damn busy, man? Boy, you something else, man. Always moving. Well, listen, man, last time I hit him up, he was, he was down for the count. The leg, he was, I said, what's going on the nigga leg up? I told you, I said, we better call him. I called the nigga right then. He answered, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I messed up, man. What happened? I bust my ass at the casino. At the casinos. They had some oil on the ground. I was going to get some crab legs. Who puts all this was in the cafe, in the buffet? Like, I was going, I want some crab legs. So I was like, let's go to the casino there. All you can eat. Right. Which one, which, which casino are you at? Uh, I don't remember which casino it was. Oh, okay. Yeah. But we was in, we was in Biloxi, Mississippi. And we was walking into the entrance area. It was, I was walking, I was on my phone. Often I slipped and fell on my knee. Boom. Damn. Me. Right straight on it. Like right off the, right off the top of it. Frasher must be. Damn boy. I said, man, we feel to be down. You know, I'm thinking crazy, nigga ain't going to get to perform, man. Right now I'm upset. I'm trying to figure it out. All right. I don't, I don't know the scooter to go performing. I'm giving my money. Did you have any performances scheduled at that time? I had a show the next day. And you couldn't make it? Uh-uh, couldn't do it. Had to cancel. Had to cancel. Wow. I can imagine how the people from the casinos was running to your attention. Man. They didn't? No, no. Oh yeah. They didn't get it here. Yeah, they did. They went, they, they came to my attention. I was security in there. I was about to say. But there's a lot of fans taking pictures of me. Why you was down there? I'm talking about on the ground, pictures. They's getting video. Somebody, I'm, I'm trying to talk to the paramedic, people asking for pictures. Can I get a PNG team on everything I love asking for pictures? Don't you hate that? Yeah, I'm like, come on. I hear about stuff like that, but nothing that has ever happened to you before, right? Where you've been caught in a situation like that. And that happened. Not, not to that extent, no. But how did that make you feel? Well, it made me feel like I'm doing my job right. Yeah, yeah. I'm getting to a point where they demanding these pictures. They don't care if I'm leg broke, leg hurt. They don't care if we want this picture. So I'm doing something right. But I can understand somewhat where some celebrities feel like you're just a piece of meat. Like they don't really, they act like they care, but they really don't care if that's what, you know, you're hurt. Yeah, rather than that, you're a brand. You're a brand. You're a brand when you put yourself on a table like that, you're a brand. Yeah, but when you walking through, you walking fast or slow when this happened? I was just walking the regular pace. On his phone. So I was on my phone, right? I was on my phone. So yeah, looking and slip or straight on. Did you feel some pop? Now, I just feel straight on my kneecap, straight on. You kept straight on top. And when you when that when you went down, who seen you first, you say? Carlos, he was with you. Yeah, what do you say? Uh, later, later. Don't try to move, man. Don't move. Don't move this later. And when you land there and you thinking, hang man, this is bad. So I knew it was bad when I had to call the ambulance. So you couldn't get up. I couldn't get up. So when they and as you sit in it, as you land there, somebody come up and act all you had to set up. And then they say, man, let me get a picture. Yeah, I got up. They put me in a golf cart. Yeah, yeah. And you sitting on the back of the golf cart. And they said, that's, oh, man, T-Rail. Recognize you. I can see no new office famous real quick. They started trying to figure it out. Who is this? Why y'all want pictures of me? Why y'all want to take pictures? Man. And so how long did it take them to get you out of there and to the hospital? They got me to hospital really fast. Pretty fast? Yeah, it was a good process, fast. Wow, that's crazy. I was just mad I missed that show. Really want to perform in Mississippi. Y'all had a show in Mississippi. Did it have it rescheduled? It's been rescheduled, yeah. OK. And how did you get the word to them that you wasn't going to be there? I just called the promoters. They do everything. I can't help a leg. Now you didn't do nothing to cause it. So that's the cold part about it. Things just happen. Things happen. Sometimes things happen. And that's one of the things that I just was like, what the heck is going on? Another what the heck is going on moment was the elevator, right? That happened like two days ago. That was two days ago. Don't have it yesterday. Yesterday. Boy, y'all quicker. Y'all quicker. I know what's going on. Amen, so do we. And I'm thinking these niggas is why they coming out. I thought y'all was doing a movie for a second. And then I was like, this nigga doing a movie. And some people, I was reading the comments. And some people even said, oh, y'all put everything on Instagram or on social media like y'all post that. People say that all the time, but people need to know what's going on. Yeah, that's smart. To be honest with you, the people that really fans like me, nigga, I'm happy to see all you got out safe. Yeah. Yeah, nigga, I'm with you. Nigga, I'm out. Yeah, I'm with you. Man, I told you, I was chilling. You know, I was smoking my hooker. And then Carlos called me. He said, hey, man, I'm in the lobby. Come let me in. I go downstairs and I let him in. We go to the elevator. This is Atlanta, right? Yeah, we in Atlanta, my condo. Oh, OK. So we press the button. We go up like it's like, but we go up like three floors and it stops. It just stops. It gets real hot in there. Me, I'm both of you are in there. I'm crazy in an old white dude stormy in there. We going crazy. I'm just I'm like, what the hell going on? What's going on? Y'all had signal. Man, I'm tech. I'm looking on my phone. I'm trying to figure out what to do in the case of you stuck in the elevator. You're going to Google it. That's what I'm doing. I was Googling like a fool. Oh, white dude, he was on the floor. He was like, they're not coming to say. Oh, he did not say it. He was talking crazy to the police on the phone. He was like, stop telling me you're sorry. Just get here and save us already. I'm like, bro, this boy, he's going to make it. They don't want to come save us. We're going to have to beat him up. But did you did? How long did y'all stay in there? Man, about an hour and a half. How long? I'd have been tripping. You should have been hot. You should have been hot. The walls were steaming. Like the walls were like, we're wetting. You got all the breathing in there. You breathing in, you know. You'd be like, please don't talk. Don't talk. Let's conserve this oxygen in here. Man, bro, he was trying to figure out everything. What was irritating me the most is my manager got a bald head and he was just sweating. I'm like, bro, you're just making me hot. You got to help me. You know me, I watch movies, right? And then the movies, when the elevator gets stuck or if you feel like some danger down at the bottom, you get, you open it up, you stop it, open it up. And then you got to crawl to the top. Man, ain't nothing like that. You know how hard them doors are to pry open? Yeah. The fire department was prying the door open. Oh, they like the movies. No, then you don't want to just jump out because that, what if that thing drops? You cut your legs off. Oh, your body and head, you dead. You dead, it's over. So you telling me that you, when you was in there, you basically couldn't do nothing, ain't no opening the door, did anybody try to open the door beyond? Man, I tried. Yeah. You know, I was like, I watch the movies, I'm like, I'm gonna try to open this, I'm gonna try to slide it. Carlos pressing the button, fat, I'm like, it ain't gonna work. It ain't working. We stuck. And you weren't claustrophobic. Me, I didn't get claustrophobic to my phone died. Oh, hell yeah. That's a problem. My phone died and I started tripping. I started singing by the door. Wow. I was trying to figure other things out to do, you know what I'm saying? So when they came to rescue y'all, of course I saw when you climbed up through the top, what did they do? Open it up and it's like, are y'all okay? Did you hear them coming? I heard them, I heard them drilling or doing something they was trying to pry it open. First I heard the sirens, so I said, okay, fire up our mirror. Then I was like, I heard them tingle on the door then they opened it up. We were probably like a four foot under the door entrance. Oh, okay. You know what I'm saying? So we had to throw a ladder in there. That's crazy. So we can crawl out of it. And that's your first time getting stuck in elevating like that? Yeah, but that's trying to. I never been in that. I never been in that. I never done. Thank God. Have you been in the elevator since that? Yeah, I roll. I don't even scare. I'm like, where's the stairs? I roll, I took the steps the rest of the way up. Yeah, I was about to say it. Yeah, it was like, hell no. I was tripping. I bet. I mean, that's the crazy part because I ain't never got stuck in one, but I see a lot of moves and I've been in a lot of them. And in my mind, I'm like, sometimes you get in them, they ride rough. Did they ride smooth or did it? It rolls smooth. It just stopped. So it was no, no warning signs. It just stopped. Just stopped. It stopped on three. That was stopped on three. Right on three. And you were like, we ain't stopped. We don't post stuff on three. I'm on six. What the hell going on? What the hell going on? Did management say anything to you after? We sorry, man. What did they say? We sorry. That's it? I said, can I give some discount? Yes, I'm. We sorry. No, I'm like, I'm just traumatized now. I'm like, I need counseling. No, we sorry. We sorry. That's it. You got, what else you need, bro? You got to go now. That's the way they do it. But it's just, thank God that it didn't get worse because what if it just started going down? You know, see that in the movie too. I was shaking myself. Oh yeah, you did at that point, I think. It's over. I'll just say my prayers. They post, yeah man. But I kind of did my own research on elevators before. I'm one of them weird dudes. Like I watched like a what if on YouTube. You're on if you're watching what if. Yeah, I've heard of that one before. I have. I watched it. I watched the shit out of what if on YouTube. You tell you, all the crazy stuff. All the crazy shit you never think of, you see it. What to do if that happened and what to do. Yeah, that's a great YouTube channel. I watch it all the time, but elevators got breaks on them. They got mercy breaks and other breaks. So you wouldn't really crashed on the ground. Okay, but you see that if the airplane, the day you probably was traveling when this happened. I was just thinking about that. When you were talking about the airplane hit right over here on 67. I seen it on when I got the plane. The news. It was warcrafts, old warplanes. Because Veteran Day they're doing like a show. I didn't realize Veteran Day was yesterday. I didn't know that. Yeah, they crashing to each other. I don't know how that happened though. It was commercial planes, it was warplanes, but still somebody lost their life probably in that thing. Couple of people. Two or three, two, one, yeah. We don't know how many people were in each plane though. But did you see the video? Yeah, it was crazy. God bless their family. I know. That's God bless their family. And how many people was sitting there watching this show and affected them? Be like, I'm never going on a plane again. Oh yeah. I ain't gonna owe it to you. I was like, man, but it happened in Dallas. I was so happy to land in Dallas. I'm like, man, what are we doing? Man. I just got off a plane. What? Nigga ain't trying to hear it, bro. I'm already nervous. I get on that thing, bro. I ain't gonna lie to you. I pray. I ride first class so I can drink all the alcohol I want. Man, I pray. Listen to me. I pray. And then I get on there and I be like, wow. Oh, I got like a set prayer I do before we fly. But I say wow too, like. It's the same prayer. Every time. Every time. And when it first take off, they say that's the most dangerous part, taking off and landing. But when that thing take off, I just be sitting there, boy. Say, nigga be sitting back like, ooh, Lord Jesus. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I got issues with that. But I'm still going. Yeah. I got to go. That's the worst part. The worst part is when you go through turbulence. That's the worst part for me. Oh, you put that plane to drop. No, like, it's bad weather and all these feelings. The turbulence don't bother me. Turbulence is what kills me. It's the part where it drop a little bit. Then it come back up. And you can feel your stomach just drop. I'm like, what the fuck is going on? I started looking around people. That was hell going on. The turbulence is what kills me a lot too. I'm going to play there the other day. I know. I got to say this though. You pull that off them rollers for your hollow. That picture was like, oh my God. You pull that off. I see you don't have face on there. Yeah, you should tag him in that photo. I'm not the face on that, my boy. Me and face aren't cool, man. Did you send it to him? I told him I'll be a little worm. We do a move together, big worm, I'll be a son. Man, listen, man, shout out to him, man. We went out there and hung out with my boy, man. Face on is a good dude, man. He a great guy. A great guy, man. Help me laugh. And this dude is not. Very knowledgeable and very hilarious. Hilarious, bro. I cannot, man, I love it, bro. We be going back and forth. I be having such a good time listening to this nigga live. Woo, he gonna come with some good ones. He plays. Oh, man. The history. This nigga told me some stuff. I don't even know if I repeat it. You know about Whitney Houston and everybody. This dude here had some stories, bro. You know, he go way back. He definitely got those stories, man. That's face on, man. He been in so many movies. My favorite one when he grabbed Chris Tucker was like, did he hug you like this? You know the one I like when he basically was on Cuffer's Retreat, man. Cuffer's Retreat, man. That was hard, man. Like he has been on a lot of good ones and they have back and forths on here. This platform about residuals, me and him talking about that all the time. Because the new comedians are getting their money a different way than the old comedians. I get my money just like the new comedians do. Through the internet? Yeah, you guess how you get your brain. I mean, you get it with the reels. You get it, I'm not just an artist. Yeah. You're a brand. You're a brand. I'm an influencer. Right. All the Walmart videos I do is hard. I do millions of views on those, bro. That's a check. As you talk about that, has Walmart ever reached out to you? Because the way how you always push Walmart, I'm like, you need to be an ambassador for Walmart. Well, Walmart just did this deal. Now we're starting 2023. They're letting influencers get paid from what they promote at Walmart. Oh. You have to sign up through the site. I think I've had a big deal with that. They physically hit me up about it. But I feel with all the stuff that I do with their clothing, they have to see that that influencers are making a lot of money at Walmart. How many people became famous at Walmart? You, Bunny Marco? Yeah, Gerald Houston. Yeah. Not like a whole lot of people, though. Yeah, the new guy who be doing, you heard what I said? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he tripping. Yeah. Boy, give me that thing right there. You seen that? What's your mark? It's a white guy. Boy, I said, give me that. Oh, yeah, boy, give me that. Yeah. Ooh. I'm like, I hope he run into the right one, boy. Ooh, then they go right to the right one. I'll be wearing this. I'll be wearing this. He's gonna get it. Yeah, but it's an influencer, bro. You come an influencer like that. You can use the rails in order to get money. Right. Another thing that I see people hitting people in there, it's like, they think it's tripping in there. Like, I'll be like, oh, what is this? And Walmart see that? Mm-hmm. You see, they see that. That's why they opened that new influencer thing up. Wow. That's dope, though. I don't know if a lot of people even know about that. No, I'm glad you said it, because you're helping people to understand it on Boss Talk 101. So, like, if you, whatever you promote within Walmart, you'll get money for it, especially when fans go buy more of it. But you just gotta sign up. You gotta go to the website and fill it out and stuff like that. They got a lot of stuff at Walmart, too. Walmart ain't no pump. Yeah, you can come out and get anything. I can hang a lot. I can make more money doing Walmart videos than them singing. Wow. Are you serious? When I can do Walmart videos all day and just run rails, I do millions of views on rails all day. I'm nobody's bigger than me on rails when it comes to Walmart videos. Walmart stuff. When it comes to those clothes and stuff like that, I did 12 million on one. I did nine million on one. I did five million on one. One week, I did two to three million per video. Go look at my TikTok. So, that's crazy because I know it worked. Jordan Jackson came on here and when he was talking about it on here, one of the comedians to be with country Wayne, he was talking about the way that the world works. You say he posts about, what, 20 times a day on different platforms. He not playing no games with it. I just left your mall and somebody, I was buying a sweater from Will Locker. He had a phone in my face. He said, man, I'm just getting recorded because he's supposed to be at Walmart. That's so funny. I said, damn, the Nike sweaters is two for one, you know what I'm saying? Now, he ain't trying to hear it. You know what I'm saying? See, everybody know you for that. You know what I'm saying? So, they really want to see that. That's horrible. I get a lot of that. The fan base is diverse. But you put them office together, like really dope though, because the last one I saw was you in that black and white shirt with a black pants and you said you just got, I'm like, hold up, I ain't never seen that outfit at Walmart. Which Walmart? He want to find that. I got everybody want to shop at Walmart. Everybody got, I'm starting a podcast for hate the clothes is the man in them where I'm getting celebrities dressed up. That's horrible. I already been started, already started shooting. I got a lot of celebrities come in. I'm getting them dressed up. Boy, and that's another podcast. That's another. And it's affordable clothing. That's what I like. It's not like it's anything that's out of people's reach where they can't go and buy these outfits. And then the day what you're gonna do is you're gonna save, you're gonna save these pairs. You're gonna save these kids. There's a lot of kids. I was one of them kids, they got clown every day because I had to wear one of my clothes. I was raised by my grandma. She ain't taking me to buy no footlocked clothes. She ain't taking me to dealers. She ain't taking me nowhere to buy no upscale clothes. I had to wear one of my clothes. I got clowned about it. But if you see your favorite rappers, just put on some one more clothes every now and then. And I say it every day, but every now and then, bro, you will help these parents out. But it's how you put things together too. When you teach these kids that it's how you pair it together to make it look good. It's not how, you know, it's not a, you weren't, people that go inside your clothes and be like, let me see what you have on. Come on, man. Ain't the clothes it's personal. You can have, you can have all, all you want on, bro. I'm trying to let you know that I'm a big dude. I could pull, I could pull a female fast. And anybody wants to go in the Walmart tee. I do it every day. Do it every day. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I love it. Well, it gets you in the building, man. You just gotta feel confident in what you wear. I love it. So the kids need to know that when they go into school and they getting clowned on, they see T-Rail doing it and I'm rocking it too. And I get a lot of feedback from a lot of parents. That's good. And a lot of teenagers that can't afford Jordans. Man. And their quality isn't bad. Walmart is the stuff you should be. Well, Jord is the hell of a brand. George T-shirts and George, they have, it's the hell of a brand. Yeah. Yeah. And it's crazy because, you know, a lot of people don't pay attention to details, but you make them pay attention to details. That George is a, that's a good brand. I think it's not bad either though. I'm working on getting my own shirt inside. Sam's collab right now in my hometown, my first, I'll be getting my first store. Man. Or even your own brand in Walmart. Yeah. But you gotta start somewhere. Sam's. I watch a lot of Shark Tank. And I see a lot of entrepreneurs, they start in one or two stores and they work from two to five stores, five stores to 20 stores. I'm going to work with this one store that I've been talking to the general manager about. And you say you can do it. Yeah. And it's my hometown. I'm going to, it's going to be crazy in there. Is it be all sizes? Oh yeah. Boys, girls, adults, everybody. I'm going to do the whole range. The whole range. I can't see how I'm going to sell out the first, first week. Of course. Cause you going to be the one putting it on and putting it out there. It's going to be gone. The website is going to be online too? Oh yeah. As long as it's online, I can try to order it. Come on. Man, Shaq, Shaq opening up some stores here in Texas to some restaurants. People laugh at Shaq, but you say he may throw 300 million and some shoes along? Shoes along. Come on. Aren't you funny? Newers, man. You know what I'm saying? I love the way the game has changed. And our brother's a lot of pulling up entrepreneurs doing things, changing the game. I love it, bro. I love it. You know what I'm just saying? You gotta step outside of that. You gotta make some money outside of that. What I love about what you're doing too, whereas even the clothing or even the brands start Walmart, because we've been in the clothing business for over 16 years. And one thing I noticed about brands, brands that start up here, high dollar, whatever, and after the brand die, it starts to trickle down to your Walmart, your Ross, your Marshals and whatever. So people look at, that's the reason why people look at those stores as like, I'm not shopping there because that's like the bottom of the clothing line. You know what I mean? But I love the fact that you're starting from here and you're bringing them up and showing people, no, it's not. Yeah, that's hard. The reason I'm winning, because you understand this, there's more middle class people than rich. Yeah. I got more people to promote to. Yeah, yeah. I got more people that's relatable to what I'm doing. Wow. That's hard, man. When I think about, well, no, you were here, then you got this new car. Yeah, just about to say that. Yeah. Yeah. Treated yourself to it. Treated my son. Congratulations. My son in remission. My kid is in remission. I mean, he ain't cancer free. Yeah. That means all the money that I had to spend on his chemotherapy, I don't gotta spend that no more. Wow. So it's my turn to ball out. Man, so how was that? How did it feel? It felt good to go buy what I want. Man. You know, I didn't get to do that. So people thought I was broke. Like I told you before, people thought I was broke. I wasn't broke. I was just spending my money in the right place, saving my kid's life. So now, I get to buy what I want to. That's hard. I want a car. I go buy. I want some land. I go buy it. But you're still saving and investing. But I'm still saving and investing. Yes. I'm very smart with my money. I just want to make them know that. Because it ain't forever. Money, the rap ain't forever. You know what I'm saying? You got to get multiple businesses. You got to be a boss. You got to have your hands in everything you can. So how did you pick what you wanted? What, you been looking at that car or what? Yeah, I had dream cars. You've been dreaming about that car. I got dream cars. And my fans ain't mad that I got it. They happy I got it. Of course. Because you do what I do and you're humble like that. Your fans feel it. I love your fans. I'll be in your comments, reading every single one of your comments. I'm like, I just love the love that they give you. I love it. They see my accomplishment as theirs. Right. When I bought a car, they feel like they got a car. That's real. When I got a bus, they feel like they got a bus. You know what I'm saying? It ain't like all he boasts in a bra. Most artists, when they get a new chain or they get something, it feel like they bragging in front of you. You feel like they just dangling in front of your face. When I get something, it's like, man, he finally got it. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. That boy got it. But the people who, to me, that would not understand it are the people that new fans are just coming on that's seeing you now when you just buy that. People who haven't been following you and see your journey and see what you were doing before. They're the ones who are not gonna understand unless they go back and do the research. I took the slow route. I took the slow route instead of fast route. I built the platform. So my fans educate. You ever seen them being in my comments? They be like, man, you ain't seen it. That's what good fans come into. You got the real people that really been following you for years. They'll defend you. They'll defend you fast. Last time I was, you left, I believe it was Raymwater talked about Mode 3. He was saying that he can't come to your shows because you show so much love to Mode 3. Yeah. It make him think about it so much. And I think he said, did come. And one dude was like, man, I got on Mode 3 shirt and stuff like that when he came. I think he went to yours or either Kevin get one of y'all's. You know what I mean? It just, in that place, it was my birthday rain came to my show. It was my birthday rain came to see me. But he said, he talked about that here on this show. But then he was like, it's tough on him because of where it puts him at. It puts him back in that place because you show so much love to him. I thought that was hard. Well, I believe people deserve their flowers. Yeah. A person like Mode 3 would put me on stages with him. Why wouldn't I show love? Yeah. Why wouldn't I show love? That's, why wouldn't you show love? That's what people got a problem with these days. People were afraid to get somebody they flowers. I did with a death really bad. Now I flipped in the car five times. I watched my brother fly off a windshield. Yeah. And I watched him laying on the ground. I'm in an ambulance and I got flown in helicopters. And I laid on a couch in my mama house addicted to pain pills because I couldn't deal with it. I had PTSD. So when I get close to somebody, when I become a friend with somebody, you don't gotta hang with you every day. But when I be a friend with you and I'm close to you, or I talk to you and I can tell you about my feelings or I can tell you about something that's going on with me. Or you check on me or I check on you. You become close to me. That's hard. You feel what I'm saying? So it hurts. I deal with loss very bad. Yeah. Even still today? Until today, till this day I deal with loss bad. I can have a friend and he can just go somewhere and I talk to him for a while and I have an issue with it. Yeah. You know, so yeah. I believe Mo3 deserves his flowers. You know, and nobody on Scream is named on stage. I will and I'm on a big stage. It was just his anniversary. It was yesterday or the day before yesterday. Cause I saw you posted like about four different pictures of him. Oh yeah, oh yeah. We used to clown all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Boy, he got everybody in the goddamn world saying, I gotta show the pass and play football. I don't even play basketball. Boy, he roasted me for an hour on live, on Facebook. I couldn't even keep up. You had me cracking up when you, what you call him? Pillsbury, no, it wasn't Pillsbury though. Michelin Man. Michelin Man with a big head or something like that. You got a fat ass head. Yeah, I was cracking up laughing the way you're talking about him. I think that's hard that you keeping his name alive. I'm forever doing it. I think that's the whole game. Like, and that's the whole game even on this show. Like a lot of times I mention or bring him up or put his music up. I'm always do that. And I'm always rock with everybody. PMC? PMC, I do that a lot. Like that's what I do. That's what makes this show different. Sing the hell out of this song. Oh, you be on it, man. I sing the hell out of this song. Yeah, man. What's your favorite song to sing? You know that one. I know which one it is. Hold on, don't say it. Let me see what he gonna say. What's my favorite Mode 3 song to sing? Yeah. I love it. I like Outside. I do it. I do it. I do it. I knew that song. Or And I. Man, you see Bumpett Johnson wasn't him. Yeah, he came with his song. How would you hit that? I got to get that one. I'm waiting for Rain. He's probably be sending me a few records that I've been asking for. He gonna refage and start stuttering and shit. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I'm gonna send it to you, T-Rabber, send it to you. Man, give me a little bit of that And I, man. Come on, man. You want that? Yeah, let's go. I know you can sing, nigga. So I'm gonna play with you. I'ma keep it case to till the day I die. Man. And I can never be a snitch when I'm on paperwork. They tell the lies, nigga, this time. Man, y'all can sing all that. Man, that's hard, man. I just love the fact, man. You know, and when I got on him, really got on him, he had passed away. Now my brother had tried to put me on him early. I wasn't on him, but my brother was on him. My older brother, he was like, man, man, you got, I said, all right, you know me, I'm a hard, I'm hard on everybody, bro. You call me that, I'm hard on everybody. You can be hard on, on a, on a. This was early on. He had just came out with the song where he was at the month, before he came with the month, taking the church, that part. When he first was coming. Like hold your tongue and stuff like that. Yeah, that part, during that era, that's where I'm talking about. Not even when the music got more and more intense, everybody, man, when he and Boosie did that one, or you know, y'all, you know, you couldn't deny those songs. But at the end of the day, at the first, I'm just talking about the first come up, I was talking to my boy, I said, he's both talent, that I've ever heard, out of Dallas to me. That's how I even buy it. If I was just a regular person walking through her, and I listened to some music from Dallas, boy can sing rap, rap fast, chop. He goes slow, his riffs is hard, his vocals, it's raw. See, and I'm not even into rap as much, but I fell in love with him, whenever I was on Instagram one day, and I heard him singing in his kitchen, and that's what made me. I was singing in the kitchen. I love the, I love R&B. You watched my I Love 3 video? The one I did the whole time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I did a scene in the kitchen like that. I know it, I seen it. I was on him. That was hard, man. Yeah. And you were like, I'ma do it in the kitchen. I know that's what he would do. Yeah, right in the kitchen. God, that's when I fell in love with his voice. I'm like, I went into him and I was like, baby, he can sing, he can really sing. I was shocked. I didn't know. That outside, man, I went up to, I was in LA and me and Compton Menace was together when we interviewed him, and he wanted me to take me downstairs to see his Harley, because he got to deal with Harley. Like, he's one of the... Ambassador. Ambassador for Harley, Harley-Davidson motorcycle. Okay. And he took me downstairs, and he had about three, three bikes down there, and he was like, he turned that music, I don't get what he turned on. They scared to come outside. And there wasn't no blue phase version either. This was mode three, and I asked him, I said, which one's the hardest? Right though, he's like... Come on, man. Because he's in LA. I'm talking about, yeah, but we're in LA. Man, I go, I travel everywhere. I'm talking about, I'm all over the United States. I ain't never heard of blue phase first. Never. Never. I already know how to sound. I always hear it. I have to though, because I had to go listen to it. All I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was all your work up. Man, when you first heard that, where were you at when you first heard that song? The crib, I seen him do it on the... What did you say? Because you're a singer. I know you was like, what the hell? I always, my mode three's vocal ability, all your sings, and kind of got me where I, helped me learn how to do runs. Yeah. You know, I'm a singer. I sing, but I was always terrible at runs. I'm like, what can run? Like a motherfucker is it? And I always learn about listening. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I'm practicing. Yeah, I'm practicing. You know what I'm saying? So I always admire his vocal ability. Which one are you going to redo on his songs or anything here in the near future? Working on that. I'm going to talk to Ray once, see if we get the shit going. Because everybody waiting on Ray to drop his song. Drop mode three, the rest of his new... The new, the new. Jay, you got three. You say you got three, bro. You know, they ain't going to tell me nothing. You say you got three more albums. He keeps teasing everybody online. I see it every time I talk. Yeah, he got about three more albums. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to drop it, but I just got some new gang to drop it. This is a good talk, man. Got a new song with Obama coming out. Yeah. So you... Ray War to celebrity himself, huh? Yeah, Ray won't get... I don't need to come out with a record. I don't think, I think he just, he just doing something that I think other managers, because a lot of people will be like, managers don't need to really be out like that. Why not? But this, like you just said, this is a different world. Different world. He'd be like the same world, bro. He'll be in there doing his rap and managing. I see them do it. I see them do it. I see them in the studio with Seven before. He ran it definitely. No, he ain't a rapper. Oh, okay. But he know what to say. Or you know what's trending. He know what to capitalize. That's one of my biggest things with Ray War. He know how to capitalize. So is he one of the guys you can pick up the phone to and call when you got something that you want to... Yeah, he'll tell me all the kind of stuff. He'll tell me when I'm fucking up or some shit or... I mean, you're tripping, man. You need to see about your life. You need to see about what you're going through. All right, I'll do a song. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about like that. All right, you tripping. You charge too low. You need to get you all high. So you value his opinion. Yeah, I do. That's hard. I'll fuck with him. That's hard because it's hard to find people that really genuinely tell you the truth. He's smart. He knows music. He knows things. Yeah. He's smart. A lot of people think he's crazy. He's smart. Talk fast. You gotta understand him. Yeah, he's smart, though. I learned to respect him and what he is by doing interviews with everybody around here. You know, I did, right? At first I was like, this nigga, no, I am. This nigga crazy. I ain't never interviewing this nigga. When I first started out, I'm nah, man, it ain't nah. I called a nigga one day, I was so hyped, I ain't gonna hold you. I was like, man, dawg, I just got four anti-handlers, man, you know what I'm saying? I'm an R&B lover. I love R&B. Anything R&B. Anything I love R&B. I grew up R&B. I mean, I got, man, I don't talk after that, man. Who that? Yo, I don't know. Oh, shit. That's my boy. I know. He's gonna do it. Yes, he is. He's gonna do it. I said, man. He didn't know who that is. He knew who he was. But he would say, you need to do something with Toy Lanz or something like new. Something like that. Which I know that. But I was calling him on a friend level to say, hey, man, look at all this, look at all that I leaked out with this nigga. This is, I've looked up this nigga. I like these, I like old R&B because there ain't much that shit left. His mind always staying in work mode. Yeah, I had to get on a few of my people like that before. Sometimes when I hit people up, it ain't always work. It's just sometimes I really just fuck with you. That's real. That's real. I just really fuck with you. I used to call him on three the same way. Call him, all kinds of bullshit. I sent him a song. Last time I sent him on three, he was a fast record. He called me back and said, bitch, he finally made some fast shit. You always doing some slow music. Like it was just, I don't know, but I always just bullshit. If I call you, hey, man, you see the Cowboys there. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? No, it was a friend. Yeah. What I'm gonna do. Tau. I'll call you, man. I believe in friendship, bro. This music shit is stressful as it is sometimes. Yeah, man, sometimes you just want a regular conversation. Yeah, yeah, but one thing about him in the music that you do is something else and people, they long for that, bro. So you got to keep that going. You redo these songs. You make the one you did with Ray J. Ray J, give me the day. Really? One wish. Give me the day. You hit that hole. How he done? I know you were gonna hit it when I seen it. I said, he gonna hit that hole. Yeah. Yeah, give me the day. I'm so excited, man. What was that about? He cleared the song off. We gonna work on it right now. He really liked it. He liked it. He followed me and stuff. I'm gonna wake up and show him the finished record. That's hard. That's hard because it seemed like you doing things to be that again bridge instead of a wall. You helping me and even the genuine, even the anything that you're doing is things that's connecting the older with the younger too. Yeah. The music that I already went is coming back into, cause it always did. Every 10 years it comes back. Like you connected with him. I'm helping it to come back even quicker. To talk as fast. But the way that you're doing it is really, it's a relationship. To see you and Tank together and then to see, we love Tank. Yeah. But then to see you with him, we love you. Yeah. And it's just that chemistry then y'all get together and y'all having a good time. Yeah. That's good vibes, bro. Straight up. That's what people want to need because the internet got so much stuff going on where you might see a man bleed out. On number 30, 39 on the radio if they take record. You see what I'm saying? You might see a kid get shot at anything. 35. So at the end of the day, we gotta have this stuff, these moments, these memorable moments where people can see things that average up to where people can see that they're not just bad things happening, bro. Because they will push that bad thing like over and over again. Yeah, bro. But when I've seen you and Tank do that, I've seen that so many times. So I want to thank you, bro. Because that helps to, we got to even the playing field. That's what boss talk about. Trying to bring the playing field to where people can see something other than. Yeah. Because you know. So I love y'all platform. They doing stuff on the internet to where, even when recently when take off RIP, when you see how they did that, bro. This is getting more and more aggressive. Every time somebody, we lose somebody. It ain't, when it was PMB Rock, when it was Nipsey Hustle, these things are being, they're so in your face, a mode three. It's so in your face, we gotta have guys like you. Yeah. I'm being real, bro. Yeah, I appreciate that. To help us to level off the playing field with this internet. Because hopefully it'll bring change because it always takes one person going through, being different from everybody else. And you have to do it for a while before everybody else catch on. People look at you and be like, are you ahead of your time? But it's really, it's starting a new change. That's all it is. Hopefully everybody else catch on and really try to deal with positivity instead of all this negative stuff that's everywhere. I mean, this world is hard not to be negative because you deal with so much negative, but I try to keep a positive foot on what are on the daily basis. Where we, it's a struggle sometimes. Yeah. But you feed negative, you're positive, you're gonna outcome firing these air to breathe. It just takes time. It just takes time. Yeah. And faith. Yeah. And I love the way how you celebrate even the small stuff, because what some people might look at as small is huge to you. You know what I mean? Because even when you just mentioned about, you know, your song, I remember when you posted that and it's on here, it's like, it's not number one, it's not number, but I'm happy about it. And I love the fact because it makes everybody celebrate it with you and show that, you know. Yeah, I remember the day I wasn't on a list. Exactly. And I love, you said that. Yeah. You said that, and I loved it. I wasn't. I don't care if I was, if we was on the top 200, I was 200. I'm gonna celebrate like. We're gonna celebrate. Well, I ain't never made a list of my four in my life. Now I'm on a list. You want me not to celebrate because I'm not one. No. Because some people out there like that though. I was on my small town called Topeka. We don't got nothing. We ain't never had no OGs to look up to or radio stations or big rappers or clubs, shit like that. We didn't have none of that. So to make any kind of list, I'm. It's hard. It's hard. Don't ever change. It's hard. Don't ever change, T-Reo. We love you, man. You gotta be humble about your gift from God. Man. You ain't giving them to you. You gonna wonder what's going on. That's really. Cause you ain't humble. Your heart ain't humble. He knows your every step. I got it. Make a plan, tell God, watch him laugh. I got to ask you about take off. Where was you at when you heard that? And just when you heard that he had gotten killed. Where were you? I was in Vegas. And you basically, you couldn't believe it either. I couldn't either. I couldn't at all. I got a call. I was just watching this music video. Have you met him before? Yeah. At Quavo's football game. How was he? He was cool. He was chill. He was more, Quavo's more outgoing. Take off more in the back chilling with this. Everybody said that. Everybody said that. He more chill, quiet. Say he quiet, he real quiet. You say he was up to him, he was up. He's just real chill. Wow. And so you, what did you think? Like it wasn't real? Yeah. You like, this can't be real. This can't be real. I always get that feeling. I always get like a real bad feeling when stuff like that happens. Cause I was actually, I talked to PNB Rocket Dave before he passed away. Really? Yeah. I got taken into my phone. We was talking. We both work on the record. He was like, he said, he was like, I'm not none of these. I'll tell you, I'll tell you what he said. I was mad. I was like, this is crazy with PNB. Yeah. Nothing else because of the fact of how close it be, man. Man. It be close. These conversations be so close to, he said, man, I done been through the mud, made it out just to think I was coming into some real shit. This industry fake as fuck, bro. LOL. Been through so many different situations with these rap niggas. Wow. It was, it was like you and the, he said, he said, hell yeah, my nigga see you on that wave. He said, I love what you doing, brother. And hell yeah, whenever you and the agents hit me. Man, man. And then next day he was dead. Yeah, I'm tripping out. See that's the type of shit to be fucking with my head. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause you just was talking to this guy a day before. A day before. This stuff is happening in real time. But you know how I look on stuff like this though? And honestly, I know that it, this is me personally. I feel like everything happens for a reason. Our lives are predestined. And I'm like, okay, it's sad what everything happened, but how can I learn from this situation? Because the lesson that somebody needs to need to learn whether you see how takeoff is and he's quiet. He don't get in no trouble and anything like that. And something that can happen to him. Everybody needs to move a certain way. You understand this can happen to anybody. You don't have to be that person who's starting something. You just wrong place, wrong time. Watch your surroundings. Don't put yourself out there. There's different things. How do I need to learn? How do I need to switch up how I move? Because of that. It would change everything with people showing more love. If it just changed one person. If more love was shown, it would change homes. If, you know, a lot of these young men grow up in homes where they're not getting love because mom is forced to work and daddy is gone and nobody is there to love them. It's shown that they can be compassionate. Does the streets raise them? Yeah, the streets raise them. And men get looked bad at when they show feelings. You can look crazy at when you when you when you're expressive of your heart. So that's changing now, though. Don't you think it's not a little bit right? It's not as hard as it used to be. It's still hard. This is where you go on. It's still tough. People on that's why songs I make. I'm more vulnerable than when the vulnerable person is vulnerable. When you open your heart up and you really let people why you think there is a railway? I think there is a most three of the resin shine because they're vulnerable and that's rare. Nobody everybody's bragging about what they got. That's why when I do songs with Boosie, I make I do pain, hurt songs with him. I don't do flashy songs. I like little Boosie. I like when he's when he's talking about what he went through. Yeah, and he went through a lot. You know what I'm saying? I want to paint, bro. I want to know what you're going through. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Do you you have you still talk to Boosie every every one there? When the next time you're going to do a project, the other you working on that yet? I haven't really worked on one. No project. We talk about his movies. You want me to see what you get in that movie? That he's big into his movie. So are you coming? Are you going to start acting? Yeah, I'm actually doing T-Rail, My Dog, the movie. Oh, yeah. You got the one with your son? It's going to be about my son and my brother. Yeah. Can you tell us a little bit about it? Yeah, it's about a father who takes care of his kid instead of the flashy life of the music. And when is it coming out? It's going to come out summer 2023. Summer. Have you all started filming? I actually got this full script done. I start auditions on the first week of December. In Atlanta. I'm doing Atlanta. I'm doing Kansas City. I'm going to do. Oh, that's dope. And Topeka where I'm from. That's all right. Maybe your son is going to be in there. Got to come to Boss Talk. Come on, maybe we could do some. Boss Talk 101 is the perfect place to come through and get you a little cam and yo. Just something you would. Yeah, we want to be in there. We here for you. Yeah, you're my boy. We are by you, baby. We don't we don't whatever we are. We're going to be a big movie because my dog is my most classic most. No, it's a hard song. It's my biggest record that everybody knows. And then I'm going to go put it out there. You son going to be in there? Yeah, he's actually going to play himself. I was about to say. I got him in acting classes right now. Yeah. How is that going? He's he's. Man, so, man, so you when you think about like, you know, Dorez, I interviewed Dorez Deshaun. And Dorez Deshaun said that he, you know, he said that you posed to think like that, you know, that you was the first one. And I did go back and look and say, you see, I play some of his old songs when I mixed y'all in there. And so y'all both started early, man. Dorez just said that he wasn't known. That's known yet when he was. He said he wasn't known. So he wasn't. So he was the name of the game is who's known for it first. Right. The name of the game is who's known for it first. He said he was doing and had a music out of his wasn't well known. So if you go back and look at the name was different to it, his name was different. It wasn't Dorez. Yeah. But if you look at the times and dates and you know, who made it pop in first? It was T-Rail. It was T-Rail. Look at the dates. T-Rail's part of it came out when. Oh, it came out. That was a lot later. It was it was later later. So I was before I was I was first. I came out with them records. I came up with the records first. T-Rail, my dog, a boosty. T-Rail, I got to a boosty skirt. I was my whole verse mixtape. The all the numbers I got some in power first. I was in power for a long ass time. Wow. You don't say so. The pain music is you can't lie with times and dates. I watched the interview when he said. What did you think about it? I started laughing because he because he he gave y'all the answer. He was like, I wasn't popping for a first. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So who's popping for a first? No, I didn't. Did you and him talk? I know y'all talk all the time. Yeah, I was just I just went to his as a little conference he had in Atlanta. Yeah, I love that. That's my brother. Yeah. Yeah. We love he's another genuine person that you you hit up. He's there. We always talking. He's he's somebody I can have a real genuine conversation with. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You'll write me what you up to. You all right? What's going on? What's going on? We send a call on his talk. That's my that's my partner because he knows that mental illness is so real in this industry and this day and time. It is. So that's one thing we always talk about. Every time I get around him, I always talk about stuff like that. I advise people go to therapists. If you are artists, I feel like you need one. Yeah. Yeah. You need a therapist. Do you have one? Yes, I do. Yes. Has it helped you? Oh, it is. Yes. A lot. Somebody that you can just call when you you overthink it. You can do them on virtual now on computers. Yeah. Is that better? Yeah. This is some person who listen to you and they're not they're not going to tell you business. Legally, they can't. They can't. You know, so that's the that's the that's the best thing you can do when you an entertainer, a business person, a period, whatever you're doing in life, I advise it just to anybody during these to our times of the day. But I don't want to go too far. He said you was on his new project that's going to come out and he might be on there about three times. Yeah, I made his album. Yeah, it's got perfect timing. Yeah, he said he said you gonna be on there, man. And and I thought that was a lie, man. We had a good time talking about the show. A lot of love to you. You know, I've been holding back. I don't be want to give them everything. But I got I still got some more of that video that it's some it's some core moments in there, man. Just there is a good interview, just like you, you know, you guys are singing a type of music that I feel is needed. You know, we talked to the boy Keef Stewart in LA and I compared him with them too about, cause he sings R&B, the traditional R&B. Traditional R&B. And we was like, is that ever gonna just come back full fledged, you know, cause nigga like slow dance. And they left. Women are holding it down. Women are holding it down. Women are holding R&B, that classic R&B down. I think that's all I listen to. Yeah, you can still, all men though. You don't believe, I told you one day when I played all women, I played all women one day on my play. I don't realize that I do that. I say, you listen to all men. I said, I'm gonna switch it today. And I turn on all them, you know, I went from bed right all the way up. I don't really. Clean up women all the way to no pain, no gain. How does this mean to me? All the way up to Beyoncé. But I mean, I love the, the women can go too. They got some hardcore. They force men to go fast records. Yeah. They force us. It ain't popping. Faith Evans. But the women can slow it down. What's the other one name? The one that went up on. Kiki. Go home. Okay. They can stop playing. Y'all don't want to go. The women, you playing. We can have a versus with the women versus the men. Okay. I'll do it. Are we talking about older? Older. Older. Yeah. Older. If you listen older, your arm be the man, boy. Thank you. They don't go harder. Thank you. Definitely Meals. Don't make me keep naming them. You got some. We got some. We got some. We got some. You talking about the ushers and the men. You talking about the ushers and the men. I got some. I got some. I got some. I got some. I love my time in Wilson. I do not know what niggas, you know what I'm talking about. I love my boys to men. Are we talking about 80s or 90s or 2000s? 80s, 90s, 2000s. All the series listen to older though, like 80s and 90s. I'm going 90s and 2000s. 90s and 2000s. I go back. Yeah, me and this and y'all got. I don't like mint condition. Why? You too much of their country. I didn't really love it. No man, I love it. And that lead singer was pretty good. He pretty good. He just did the good that night. He just did the good that night. So what's going on? What we doing, man? Cause you here for a show? Yeah, concert. So you, you, you working, man. You are always working, bro. Vegas tomorrow with Tink. You in Vegas tomorrow with Tink. You don't get tired of traveling? No, I love traveling. You love it? I get tired of being at home. Really? I don't want to be home on me on the road. Tell a nigga Tink. I told some artists, I said when you at home, that's when you got a problem. Tell a nigga Tink. I deserve a nigga. Let the nigga know. Yeah. He needed to deserve to be on ball talk. What a one when I, well, if I come now late, nigga. Yeah. Come on. I talk to him. No, it's all love, man. We just got, I keep working. I always say that I enjoy the working. I love the, you know, let me get, keep going. Let me hustle. I like that. I'm like you, like the road thing is cool. Cause then you get to meet more people. People get to see this show. I love all that, that part too. Yeah, I just told him earlier today. I said we been home too long. Yeah, she just said that. Time to hit the road again. I got, when I go back to Kansas, I got a two day limit Atlanta. I get about four, five day. You get tired. You ready to go? I'm ready to go somewhere. I'm ready to go do something. Man, that's hard. Do you ever just go travel without performing? Like just take a vacation? Not vacation, but I go travel, just do something else. Where is a place that you haven't been yet that you would love to go? In America? Anywhere. Oh, anywhere. I want to go Paris friends. Paris friends? Yeah. I'm thinking about going there for my birthday. Man. March 26th. Okay. I think, I think we're about covered everything. I just want, I think you, you did a freestyle like a video I seen where you were just singing hard too. I can't remember. It was an old song too. About three months ago you did it. I didn't see that one. What song? I'm like, I'm like, that one missing me. Yeah. No, I seen it. It was so, I just, it was jamming too. That whole jamming too. I already, I can go right back to it. I ain't gonna lie to you because I be watching you. I'm watching what's going on. Nigga, I know what's going on. I ain't crazy. I'll be like, oh, this nigga right here, he be working. Do you get stalkers? Whoa. Do I get stalkers? Yes. Like in your inbox, like crazy fans. Plenty. Really? My inbox boy. What's the craziest thing a fan has ever said or done? I had a fan ask me to have sex with his wife. What? No. Yeah. He niggas are doing it. He said pictures are everything. Okay. I can't, I was like wow. And that's hard. The light work is just a touchly in there, right? She was winning, he was like, well, this is crazy. What was your response? I just started laughing. Like these niggas is off the channel. They did that in your inbox. They didn't say it face to face, right? In my inbox. Oh, okay. That inbox crazy. Inboxes, you never know what you get in the inbox. I got texts yesterday. Remember I sent it to you? I said, here, look at this. They just sending them. He hurried up and showed me. And I said nasty a lot. No, cause I'm like, I don't want to see you. I really, you know what I'm saying? I'm an old nigga now. You just, you the cop might buy 22. It's over with. Niggas jumped on the car, on top of the car. Niggas slid in through the back door. Drove that hood up on you. I can't be trusted, I can't trust it. I'll be feeling like everybody trying to get something. They're going to film everything. They're going to try to do so. It's going to be on the social media and a heartbeat. I feel like everybody trying to get over on me or something. No, you ain't right. You got to be careful. You got to move in a certain way when you have a certain status. Because nowadays everybody is about getting clapped. Everybody is about, you might try to do something on the cover and then they start filming it. By the time you leave, think you good. You can trust that person. It's out there. I knew sex tape. T-Rail sex tape. Oh no. We're going to make some money there. We're going to make some money there. Nah, I ain't doing that. Nah, they don't catch me slipping. Nah man, I'm going to be real man. You definitely man. Thank you for coming on the show again. We're going to do it again and again and again. It was. It was juvenile. Oh, tell us about that. He said something about juvenile. Yes. You got something new going to come with juvenile? Yeah, I got something coming with juvenile. Juvenile, let me redo Rodeo. Really? Yeah, I went to New Orleans. Thanks for that. Yeah, Juvenile, thank you man. Appreciate that. I think they're both talking exclusive. Really? Yeah, I went to New Orleans and did a video and a song with Juvi. He let me redo Rodeo. I just tell you. I was wondering what song are you going to do next? Because for some reason, every single time, like the last time when you left, we didn't talk about Ray J, then all of a sudden, that's when you came out with Ray J. The reason I ain't saying nothing, because RainWard told me I play my hand too fast, I show it too quick. So he said I got shut up and just get four or five of them before I say something. Yeah. That's all. So now I got about four or five of them, so it gets cool when you say something. Okay, so what else do you have then? I can't say no more. You just say it. So you went down to New Orleans, you eating that good food down there because they got the good food down there. Yeah, gumbo is my all I want. Is that your favorite? I love gumbo. How do you go when you go down there to eat gumbo? How do I go? Where do you go? All my name restaurant, Juvenile is something to go to this place. And you went over there? I went smooth over there. I ate two bowls. It was that good? It was that good, and left with it to go. How was it working with Juvenile though? What, like, how was it? Juvi fun, man. It's different what I thought it was going to be like. What you thought it was going to be like? Oh, these Juveniles more, I thought it was more a little harder, you know what I'm saying? Juvi Tuesday. All that going down there. Oh, with the Juvi Tuesday, that shit was funny. No, oh, that shit was funny. What is Juvi Tuesday? I don't know about you. Yeah, Juvi Tuesday. You got to go to Juvi Tuesday. You got to go to Juvi Tuesday. What is it? It's his big ass party. He throw every Tuesday. Every Tuesday. Really? He walk around, he ain't bougie. Walk around, he talking. And he's there every Tuesday. Every Tuesday. You know, and that's, Burman came Tuesday after I left. Dang, they were hanging out. Kicking it. Juvi Tuesday. Hey, I'm talking about, he got an inside club. He got an outside. The inside popping, the outside popping. All the good foods you want. Everything right there. People come to eat to get, they do the crab legs, all the crab. We got to go to Juvi Tuesday. Mm-hmm. We going back down there. We going for Juvi Tuesday to interview him. You know, I'm plugged in. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out to my boy, little soldier Slim. He was here the day too. And me and him be talking about Juvi Tuesday. I'll be excited about it. You got to be ready to check though. Cause Juvi, he liked the clown. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He did too. He fired my cannon man ass up, boy. Uh-uh. Uh-uh. Fired his ass up. You know what, that's what I like. I love it. That's what he does. Yeah, we all have a good time, you know that? Yeah. Man, you know, that's the whole game, man. Like you, you pour the beer and then you're like, yeah, yeah, if you pour the beer, you going to be in an Amazon situation. Yeah, and I'll gift it. I'll gift it to you. So when is that coming out? Oh, I don't know yet. You don't know yet? I don't know yet. Man, that's hard, man. So I definitely, man, hey man. It's coming though. That must be nice was the song I was talking about you did. Oh, it was like Janice? Yeah. Oh yeah, you did show that to me. I did, I told you, I liked it when you hit that, man. I'll wait and I'll say, I'm going to spin this, you know, now it's a thing. I learned something. I write better on those beats. So now I just write on them and I just send the acapella to the producers and put a new beat under it. Oh, okay. That's hard. Something about these new producers don't be making those classic R&B beats like those. And I can get on some real street painful shit on the old R&B beats. So I had to dig in the crate, like find some old R&B producers. Like you want to go to them JD's or the Bramah Cox's or them drummer boys, people who made those old R&B beats. You forget about them producers sometimes. You go back to them if you want that sound. Wow. You know that the thing about you, you know, when you said that about the pain, zero came up, Jairu came up, all type of niggas came up, bro. They was like, yeah, but we talking about now doing it now. You know what I mean? I know Jairu, I was talking about fat niggas singing pain niggas. I used some bells. For real, I was just wondering who's fat singing pain niggas. Boy, you am. What day was that? No, you got a style and a sound, a unique sound and the way that you're talking about it and the cadences that you're using is what's causing it to be something different. That's the whole game for me. And it's hard and we need it because the niggas ain't really just rocking R&B like they, we need something nigga, y'all niggas need something. You saving a lot of niggas that don't even realize. Cause all you can hear all day long is this drill music. Drill music, anything. And we don't like that. Man, my PM and empire, he's from New York. So he jammed his drill music. I'm like, bro, you know I'm not from there. You and me, yeah, yeah. You don't want to share it. He's a brother drill music. Man, amen. Say, man, how can people get a hold to you? I got to ask you that. I know you T-Rail, but yeah, you got to say it. It was T-Rail 785. All right, all right. Check it, man. Hey man, appreciate you. We love you T-Rail, man. Hey man, it's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101, where the boss is talking. And we out.