 Are we on everybody ready? Welcome to the Essex Junction trustee meeting. Please join us for the pledge of allegiance Okay, looks like we have a full house ready to go First step Evan what do we have for we have a number of agenda additions? I'm sorry to say I saved them all for one night. I have a I believe four Yep, I have an agenda addition to six be a new business item to seek approval to sell a Fire truck We are new one is coming in and so we are going to move to sell this one. So I have that one The For the reading file we have the Chinton County Public hearing notice for Wednesday, July 18th at 6 p.m. At Canal Street 9d for the consent agenda. I believe this is the Bill's list And then we have an executive session item. This is a memo for that. Okay, that's 10 b Okay, do we hear motion? Any discussion all in favor? All right host, okay great So we don't have an audience here tonight But that's not going to stop us from having a public hearing Because we have a broader audience through channel 17 And so let's I think we can proceed right within to that Lauren wanted you do you want to take us through without sure So this is a hearing for the combined water wastewater and sanitation rates for FY 19 We're proposing that the total For all three will be point oh three one six per cubic foot fixed charge 7145 per quarter or 285 80 a year, which is an increase of 4.7 percent over less this current year and The cost to our average user be about four hundred seventy dollars three per sense a year or 3920 a month The water user rate is Which we went over a last meeting was is point oh one seven five per cubic foot fixed charge 25 or three per quarter or a hundred dollars a year six percent increase and that's Driven by an eight percent increase in the operating budget, which was primarily to increase our transfer to the capital reserve Which is in great need and then a three percent increase in the CWD wholesale rate The wastewater treatment user rate is proposed at point oh eight eight per cubic foot of water Metered and fixed charge of 23 56 quarter or 94 24 a year That's a six percent increase on that one as well cost to the average user of a hundred and forty five sixty three or twelve fourteen a month and In this budget fixed charges there's sixty five percent of the budget and The reason for the increase is that four point three percent increase in the operating budget a small increase in the village percentage of flow and then We have a drop in the anticipated village septic revenue that has to do with the leachate contracts that we can't cancel Village sanitation user rate is proposed at point oh five three per cubic feet foot foot Fixed charge of twenty two eighty six per quarter or ninety one forty four a year This is only a one percent increase It costs to the average users a hundred twenty two thirty nine a year at ten twenty a month and in this budget 75 percent of the budget is fixed charges. We have been increasing the Rate for sanitation each year because of the wastewater Upgrade debt we haven't quite got it so that we're collecting it all this year but each year but we've got enough to To get ourselves through what we just have to do that low increase every year And then we had a slight increase in the operating budget of two point five percent The large user rate large water user rate is proposed at point oh seven eight per thousand gallons of water And we only have one large user that's called global foundries And this is an increase of six point seven percent from last year Has a lot of that has to do with the fact that they have predicted a drop in their usage not not a big drop but a small drop and This this amount of money gets reconciled every year to our unaccounted water. So we never We don't lose. It's just a reconciliation. We either give them money back for they pay us. Yeah a little extra each year The wastewater treatment wholesale rate is proposed at two point nine eight three four thousand gallons with an increase of four point nine percent and that's there's an increase in the operating budget of four point eight percent and small in decrease in other revenues and that's the cause for them for the increase in the rate there That's those are our rates for for next year Questions We're still the lowest we're among I think because I looked at it. We're the one of the second lowest second lowest What just out of curiosity that always interests me what? What generally is accounts for the fact that other communities are higher than we are what are their costs? Are they infrastructure? Yeah, I'm sure they must be because I mean everybody gets the same CWD rate, right? So it's all it's the the distribution systems that must be costing them more money We also have the wastewater treatment facility All right that keeps because we can use our separate revenue Right against the rate it keeps that down a little bit than other communities We're pretty compact Right, right Okay, yeah, no, it's a it's an interesting thing in terms of the bigger picture Yeah, okay good things any other questions, okay so I Will make a motion that we close the public hearing and I think is this the last one we have going is this is the last Setting the rates tonight. We'll be setting the rates tonight So I'll make a motion that we close the public hearing Water and sewer rates second any further discussion all in favor. All right Okay And so now we will move on to all business And we will set those rates and I don't think there's any let blame me I'll read him one more time the cost That the the cost of the village resident using 120 gallons per day will increase by 4.7% or $21 and 19 cents per year the large user rate Is increasing that's for global foundries is increasing by 6.7% The wastewater treatment wholesale rate is increasing by 4.9% And I will make a motion that we approve the FY E 19 utility rates as stated above So who got the second Andrew sure any further discussion all in favor. All right opposed great. Thank you Let's go back and where are we now So we are now on to appointment to the planning commission and the bike walk advisory committee Evan We had our candidate a couple of weeks ago. Yeah We have since received no further candidates. So we are recommending approval Of Caitlyn Hayes, okay, but also I believe She's also looking to Serve on the bike walk advisory committee. Yeah, so we can maybe do a two-fer. Yeah, so if I can ask a question on that Yeah, anyone specifically ask her about now because we didn't talk about that. We didn't talk about that. We only talked about the planning Correct. I think it was Questions yeah, and I know it was in her letter Well, she was interested in that or any commission of bike walk or the zoning board, right? What's that she wants she specifically wants two seats one on each committee Yeah, that's what I've been told from staff But if you want to bring her in for that interview for by the law, I don't want to bring her for the interview We just didn't ask her the question. I think if you want to be on two boards, right? That's my questions. I say we offer it and and give her the out of one of she How often does the bike walk committee me once a month? I mean the planning commission is it is right? Make sure we're not, you know, yeah, that didn't come up at all when she came in. Yeah So pending her existence of it. I'm approving her to both. Okay So what if I so I'm sorry, I'm not understanding we appointing her or we gonna bring her in where we're going to point her to both Yeah, okay. Do I hear a motion? I Move that we appoint Caitlyn Hayes to serve in the planning commission for 6 30 20 20 and the bike walk advisory committee through Second and maybe subject to accepting the bike walk I mean these aren't we don't have the authority to force her to do it. Yeah, she wants to know what she can leave anytime Yes, it's a voluntary thing. Yes, so by accepting us. We're not sentencing sentencing sentencing her to this Okay, any further discussion all in favor I opposed all right Well, just for go ahead and the end for the record Anybody that's serving on any board is not held They choose to step down they can always step down so I just know that's just not right We wish we had that story sometimes, but we don't just say no you must do this Okay, we're moving along pretty fast So go ahead. Maybe just one of the items in your packet Oh, yes, we need to get to is our volunteer opportunities. Yeah, still have the list of open some open positions maybe you might want to Read those Why don't you go ahead? I don't have them We have One two-year term on the plan commission is still available. We have a zoning board of adjustment available We have one one-year term on the bike walk advisory and two three-year terms on the Bike walk advisory. We have one they can see on the capital program review committee and One they can see on the Brennell Library Board of Trustees Didn't we just change that tonight? I thought we I think the planning Commission when we just it's not filled I think that is the one yeah, I think we just had one and so one of the bike walks So we still have one of those capital three years right now and zoning Okay, so there are no positions right available on the planning Commission and just those interested could send me an email or a letter and That'll start the process right and I think we We advertise these on the village website after we frequently advertise one front porch for I've seen you on occasion. We want to do maybe we could do it again. Okay, okay So we are on to discuss goals and objectives for a subcommittee for governance and this is I guess me to discuss this I had recommended that we have this be a two-piece Item because I thought it would be important to be Instead of just appointing people we sort of talk about what we what we thought this was about and I you know Lane I maybe I watched the select board they came before us and they made their appointments already and they appointed Max and Irene And so do you want it like would you like would you mind like sort of quickly reviewing what they did and what their thoughts were? sure, so the View of the select board is that the committee's purpose is to investigate options for potential governance changes to compile Questions that both boards may have about what our options are and to research and consult with experts on the answers Okay, and then to come back to both boards and report their findings and possibly even some recommendations based on the research Okay, but it's not to make any decisions on behalf of both of the boards and anything that they come back with will not be a Foregone conclusion that would not go through a proper vetting process or two voters Okay, okay, I Had just my own thought in watching it and just over the last if you just take a minute here Is that one of the things that I? Had wanted to add to this was I Think it would be really important For us even though all nine of us have said we support consolidation I'm a little concerned that we've created an atmosphere where it's politically incorrect to say that you don't support consolidation And so I'm a little concerned that We might we were all saying we support consolidation, but Six months from now or nine months from now We may discover that someone has very strong feelings about particular things that aren't necessary that they necessarily don't want to say in public or they were not asked what I'm getting at is I Would like to know a little bit more about what's on the mind of each one of the elected officials all of us and every member of the select board and about it in terms of What what do they see consolidation doing? What are they willing to compromise on? What are some of the things that they may not be willing to compromise on for example? If some people feel that under no circumstances that they want to see the Essex Town Charter dissolved Then why have a discussion about dissolving the Essex Town Charter? If someone feels absolutely that they would never support that so I that would might be a good thing for someone to know Or for the rest of us to know if someone has very strong feelings about some particular Peace, but maybe not Dan I mean, I think you know we we did come to a consensus that we all support consolidation But what that is beyond I mean the we've support the consolidation yet here to Before whatever what we're we're planning so far, but beyond that this committee assume is what they're going to look at They've been governance and such beyond consolidation consolidation is really The whole change of governance. It's just Smalls it's it but I didn't look at the other thing is one member Is unhappy with something? I don't look at that is the end of the process I look at we were democracy the majority rules whether it's Opinion that I support or not I go with what the majority says and that's the way we do it We're looking for consensus where we're never going to get anywhere. I think it's it's gonna be very very slow Yeah, I hear you I wasn't quite saying I'll be I just want I wasn't saying okay We're gonna find out everything everyone wants, but I it seems like for the last few meetings when we've talked about it it's we've we've had this we've had a whole bunch of other things on the agenda and Most of our conversations about this are punctuated with public comment So that that dialogue never really gets to flow and I just feel that that that one meeting where we all Came to at the 81 means where we all said yeah, we support consolidation We see it going forward We all do but it I wish we could have kept that going for about just another 20 minutes You know I'm saying to get to get dig down a little bit deeper Not necessarily to say what are the roadblocks or otherwise if we don't resolve this we're not gonna go forward But just to get what what are some of the I keep going back to the my point Which is that I think the experts are sitting at the table right now I think the experts are on the select board and the trustees in terms of that That that's sort of the text that the technical inside things that we're concerned about and I'd like to just get those things Out on the table before we go much further Yeah, I hear what you're saying, but I think it's premature Okay, to ask all of us to step forward and say what we're not willing to do Because I think we've had that conversation multiple times first of all and it's on record of Our concerns about consolidation when we came to consensus on wanting to be consolidated Reservations were expressed. So I think we have some of that on record Also, I think even though there may be people who say I don't want to dissolve this charter or that charter Or this is what it really means to me I think we still need to do the research because we are the experts at the table here But the expert experts on the law are in my belly, and so I don't feel comfortable Continuing this conversation without their help because we just don't know what's legal and what's not legal Right, and the last thing I'd like to say is I don't want to set it up in Advance that someone's going to disagree about something. Yeah, I may be very set against a particular thing But then I might have my mind changed or something might come up where they were so we're told don't forget What if you do this you're going to have to do that and we all go oh my gosh That's we don't want that at all. So we don't even know what we don't know Well, I just maybe I expressed myself the wrong way I was just kind of thinking that one of the things that this group could do would be Within themselves and then with each other member just say just one-on-one insert interview though each person One of the things that you what why you why do you support consolidation? What do you think we should do your what's the most important thing you you want to get out of this and What are some of the concerns you have maybe not I said maybe he's saying roadblocks or non-negotiable things Maybe that's not the right question, but saying what are your concerns going forward? What are you afraid of losing so we sort of just get a sense We just get information doesn't mean we can't go forward and it doesn't mean it's going to stop But I just thought that that would be one of the tasks of this committee. That's all that I think is great Exploratory conversation with individual members. I think it's an excellent, right? I Do think that meeting that we had at 81 Main Street to your point was really good Yes, it was really good that we all took the time to voice what we thought and I think we should make sure that we do that Every joint meeting we have about consolidation that we do set aside You know half an hour no matter how late it is I'm the first one to complain as late that you know We go around the table and we give our opinions about what we just talked about right and you know Be honest with each other. It's the only way we're going to build trust and move this forward Yeah, I agree. I think that that's really the starting point is just sort of know each other's minds It's not like to say we're trying to out somebody or something like that But it's just trying to say we all have a sense of trust and it's just a little bit more dialogue We've had some good dialogue. I just like to see I would like to have it have had more And I do like the idea of the interviews I think yeah, but more at a time But I think it's valuable for the people in the committee The only thing that I would add is that you mentioned Individuals maybe having concerned about saying something in public Yes, I think as public officials if any of us are concerned about something that we may say not being widely accepted or being unpopular I would ask that we reflect on whether we feel we're doing the best service as elected official to that point Because we need to be comfortable to say things. Yeah, that's right. We talk about yeah, yeah, I agree. I agree Okay, well, I mean I think that that Other than Mike I would suggest maybe just this commit I do what I guess what I'm saying is that I sort of see this from our perspective doing the same Generally the same thing that the select board has in mind For this little group, but I would just add I would like to see the group Just try to contact each person on the board and just try to make that effort to reach out and say what do you you know Think the group can figure out what the questions are for what do you what do you hope to gain? What do you think, you know, even what's a timeline for you? Just just sort of get a general sense of where they want to go I think it'd be worthwhile to have that and the other discussion here Okay, so who wants to do this Okay I'm happy to do it, but I don't want to take someone else's spot. You sure? Lori you have I mean I have strong opinions about this, but I think that you and Elaine are best. Well, if you have strong opinions about it I mean, that's still don't don't necessarily I don't mind Well, we'll be happy to talk to you in an interview You'll let me know your strong Strong opinions, you know, I will do that. Okay. No, I think I think you two are well suited for it I would like to point out that if we do these interviews with each member all of it has to be public Oh, I know These interviews will be made I don't I don't see any of this taking place behind clothes No, it's just for the record getting it out there that yeah, even if we have a conversation over coffee I'm gonna be taking notes and it might be it might be it might be might turn out to be too Impossible to do I it was just a thought really I just like to dig in a little bit more of what's we actually have all the time in the World to do this Yeah, no So but the first one was Goals of the committee. So are you adept? Are you saying you would adopt the Select select one was investigate options compiled questions research and consult with experts and you're adding a fourth do a Exploratory interviews of the board members to see right there Insurance hopes and concerns hopes concerns that things that really need to be addressed or Or Addressed through the process right not so much one person I'm against this, but what's your concern and we'll just try to address it. Yes part of the process Yes, I didn't I didn't see this so I didn't read the select board is having these will really firm I think once the group gets together and may decide to add something else or drop some of the thing But this was just sort of a general sense of what we're gonna do And I think it should be made very clear that no one's designing a consolidation scheme here We're just here's trying to provide the framework for moving forward. Okay Okay, so all right. Thank you. Thank you for Appointing us So Okay, I will make a motion that we appoint George Tyler to be the trustees of the subcommittee for governance Any further discussion I guess it's just Maybe we could get one of those chartered cruises that goes across Lake Champlain as our first And just stay on that till you figure it out All right, okay, great. Thanks. That was that was good So let's move on to new business and let me do you want to do the pumper truck first? What did we say we're gonna do? The BB so let's do a Lauren. Why don't you do transfer funds between general funds? Okay So according to our charter if any of our departments is going to overspend We have to do a formal Transfer or Yeah, it's not we don't really actually transfer the budget budget but we Recover it with other budgets that gonna have a surplus and this particular fiscal year it looks like The Lincoln Hall budget is going to be over and that's because we had the Park Street school to it. Yeah The fire department is going to be over budget and a lot of that as vehicle maintenance They've had a lot of new vehicle maintenance problems and the Parks and Rec budget is going to be over 16,000 22,000. I don't know who knows exactly what but so we'd like to cover that those overges with the Surpluses that we will be having in the other departments Administration and development community development the street department in front of the library and that service actually is going to have some to it because Pulled that interest Okay When we do this annually, don't we usually see the overges and the shortages? I agree with this in principle, but I'd like to see the numbers I Mean it's it's like it's kind of it's really Very estimated at this point even though we're two weeks from the end of the fiscal year because we have bills that come in all through July Why don't you just give the rough numbers, okay? So Edmund should be over under budget by about 16,000 economic development 6,000 Lincoln Hall will be over budget by 4,000 Comdev Under budget by about 20,000 fire department over budget by about 33,000 Street budget under budget by about 10,000 Parks and Rec. I've got it over budget 22,000 Library under budget by about 40,000 and debt service under budget by 4,000 no, I'm sorry 5,000, but the other thing is our revenues are low this year Our permit fees we have been Surpassing 60,000 for years now and at this point we've only got 29,000 in so those are way down. Is that under community development or economic development the permit fees? The permit fees are in our revenue in our general fund revenue $30,000 And yet we have a large Permit coming through probably right at the beginning of the Thanks, so I'll go into next year and I say okay. I said normally it just got moved around Well, it's just a timing we had as far as I understand We had had some belief that this project was going to be a month or two ago And it's probably going to be a month from now What is the brown L on a $40,000 salary They didn't hire one they didn't take a while to replace her so there's benefits as well as salaries Do we know what the I don't mean to do do we know what the rep department over which was do you have a sense of that? Questions why why yeah, I'm guessing it was like equipment or something like that might have been Very high on their benefits I think we didn't budget that correctly. Okay, you know was our first year with them Yeah, and it was a very it was a change for how they were budgeting things, right? And let's see their liability insurance very high About $11,000 over what we had estimated So those things Had a higher than anticipated part-time salaries And they're the electricity. I mean they're building expenses electrical and heating Okay Vehicle maintenance at the fire station. So we're re-anticipating that this new truck will have a leavey. That's so not going forward That'd be part of the whole I have not spoken directly with the chief about certain things, but what I think the Soon-to-be former pumper truck was problematic it being old and Trying to keep up with standards and things of that nature For those who may not know Certain trucks of those size and those things those tires those axles the pumps themselves are Incredibly expensive I think a tire can run anywhere from 900 to 1200 dollars a tire And you just don't get them anywhere So it's those types of things and when you're doing and that's one of the things when you're dealing with older vehicles You play that that balance game. Can you get another year out of it? Are you gonna put this kind of money into it? And then as you'll see in your sale You just don't really get it back out. So you're always doing that that balance But they've had a rough year with that. There's no doubt in there. There's salaries are high. Yeah They must have gotten a lot of new recruits because they're uniforms. Yeah, I guess well Yeah Good things though. Good things. They're good things We have their their their turning wave volunteers as I understand it, which is a good thing But on the other hand it is an expense The the net of what you're talking about is that's gonna be a wash or I think we'll have a little plus To add to our fine balance a little bit But very very very small, but then, you know, I tend to be conservative We're still working through part school and what its costs are They come in a little higher than we had thought and I think the work The work on to Lincoln is now complete So Building looks better But it's a nice thing and so But yeah, we're pretty tight It would have been nice if some of that permit stuff had come in but like I said, we're we're expecting It's we have a hotel being proposed on Pearl Street next to dollar dollar store So when that comes in if it does come in like it's supposed to you'll see poor med fees shoot right back up findings of it Okay, any further questions? Do I Care emotion that the trustees make a motion or approve the use of Surpluses in the Administration Economic Development Community Development Street Department Brown L library and get service budgets To cover deficits in other general fund budgets second Any further discussion or questions? All in favor I Okay Thank you And I mean if you if anyone feels more comfortable by getting it a specific accounting I had a certain point that'll be available, you know, we can do that That's up with that. That's gonna be well Generally when the odd odd it comes you'll get you know, and we'll have everything in at that point You all know the fiscal year ends June 30th, which is a couple right? We have to do this in the last three months before the end of the year So got it. I got yeah, but I just said if someone felt comfortable not quite with the numbers And if you guys probably well know that sometimes was it about three four months later or five months later When we do the audit sometimes the auditor says way This you know this bill really should be something else or whatever So they will ask and move some things around but it gets pretty close. We try to get it right. Yes Okay Well speaking of forty thousand dollar use bumper trucks Luckily very nicely done the Village boards maybe a year back approved the purchase of a new Pumper truck right to replace the 1997 e1 pumper. I believe you guys are Buying a Pierce arrow which I had nothing to do with the Decision, but I have been a fan of the Pierce trucks in my career I have seen many a community try to save some money and go to a less expensive Vehicle and Pierce tends to outperform them outlast them out maintenance cost them over those years and so I pledge you for Stepping up and doing that and so our 2017 Pierce truck is Coming off the line. It is going to be Available very shortly and therefore this pumper will be surplus and the process is to go to a vendor Who will then market it and sell it and the anticipated? Price would be somewhere near forty thousand dollars So we need your approval to Move for the sale of the truck to command fire apparatus Although that the trustees approved the sale of the fire department's 1997 e1 pumper to command fire apparatus for forty thousand dollars Here's second second and seconds any questions for discussion All in favor all right Great. Thank you. All right So We are now on to managers report How long would you like me to go? No, I could do this in just a couple Prior to going on the camera we talked a little bit about route 117 Construction for those at home right this has been along a weighted resurfacing Over near 289 and it is going out to Richmond. They have started And as anybody who has gone through there It's frustrating But it's not a village project. It's a state project It is hard to do when you're dealing with bridges and a road that's winding but they should be done this Still yet this summer in the construction season and but it's been long-awaited. So it's going to be for a while please plan for extra time and Please be careful of others who are walking jogging biking in that area. I know you're running late Don't run other people over Please please Somewhat of the same comment, you know, we have The both communities the town of Essex the village of Essex Junction take walking and biking And pedestrian activities very seriously When people are at the crosswalks, it's a caution sign, but you are supposed to stop for people in the crosswalks Please be mindful of it and they think you're going to stop Please please be mindful of the walkers and bikers that are all sharing the road with you We get a lot of people complaining But it is a caution sign unless you are in the crosswalk then they're supposed to stop Especially be careful of the children because you know we as adults understand that we need to see and know that they're stopping You know, I think sometimes kids And if there is a button to start the flashing lights please push it That's what it's there for and so Another shameless plug for the farmers market that is on Wednesdays from four to seven We are getting very good crowds. We are getting good vendors Maybe you could think of it like going there on Wednesday and having a new restaurant here every Wednesday this last Wednesday was pizza veritas and to their Surprise they did not bring enough dough and ran out very quickly because the response was fantastic Pizza veritas Isn't that My wife is the one who knows Italian I will ask her For the board members Hopefully it will be light out when we go, but we have had public works do a striping It's very light and faint of what? Main Street would look like if there was a park all the way You know the closing the main Etc. If you look out the window, you'll see a little faint white Striping that goes around a manhole that's in the street to the Farside can we all get up and look down up the window. Let's do it right now so for the people So you can see that there would be quite a lot of green space If those were connected Go ahead. I don't think people quite understand when you get the radius It's yeah, how much space is actually there and when you combine Memorial Park And maybe even the end of the the drive That connects the things you can have quite a lot of green space there, but that's in the future It's just there to show as Visual how much space there really is yeah, and that distance if I may ask that distance Could actually accommodate an 18-wheeler to make that turn From 117 When and if we will have to make it engineered so 18-wheel trucks and other things can make that swing But there's also a lot of pavement beyond it But yes, that would have to be engineered in and a very large fire truck Look ladder truck such as it is but those are not the same size as an 18-wheeler You'd also have to ensure that if you're coming down 15 from Coming this way on 15 and you want to turn You want to go across to the rest of 15 and you're gonna have to go around this way There's nothing here. That's going to accommodate an 18-wheeler or a fire truck very well We've been I have to be engineer, but that was just a general gist of what could be there I don't know if it'll be exact in that distance, but I Set up in a killer case for lunch today. I was shocked at the number of trucks It was I mean from all directions they're they're going we have three states A lot of annoyance to the to the waste station in Williston coming down 15 and going to the waste station Three state highways come right, right? Yeah, I know I understand that but I just I just I never But the food was good, but the food was the food was delicious Open positions a jar is filling open positions that we have So we have found some very good candidates for the Essex library We have other interviews going on. So just he's very busy. We're working on policies, etc Last one public works both the public works in the highway town and village The last couple weeks and we're working together Village is training the town on how they do catch basins and they're working together Because the town liked the way the village was doing them and they wanted Their guys to show them how they do because the village does more than the town so the town doesn't mean frequently so Rick Jones was very pleased to send me photos of our two crews working together To do some work. So there you have my report Thank you. Thank you Regarding the schedule up on the screen, right This did we cancel the August 22nd joint meeting? I thought we did. I thought we did too. I believe we did Yeah, yeah, it's September that man. Yeah, right. There's no one in the sub right, right? Yeah I mean next one is October 11. So yes, that needs to be updated. Yeah Yep, we definitely did and and I also note that we don't have that the radio first regular media in July is cancelled Okay anything else Everyone good So we're on to the Vector truck status, you know, we are in a holding pattern with our vector truck grant We received a sizable or at least authorization for a sizable grant to replace our vector truck for those in the audience And at all the vector truck is it's a machine quite large It has a very large tank in it and it sucks out Our affectionate term is the super sucker It sucks debris and other things up from the catch basins, which is part of our Permit with the state. It's called the MS for permit as well as it make sure that your catch basins Are allowing water to get into them and get into the system the problem is that the Vendors need a waiver from the federal government for the steel and other products Oh, no, what's so we gonna give a terrace and what do you wouldn't know we're getting political here? We have not been able they have not been able to achieve the waiver So therefore we cannot purchase it with federal funds. So we're in a holding pattern until that gets resolved Okay So the super sucker of 6,000 I have one question Talking about grants. I forgot to ask this last time when we talked about the The grant we're planning for to get the three blinky lights When are we supposed to hear about that, you know But if you can find out that's great. I'm just curious. Thank you. I know it's in next year's budgets pay the Because if we don't get the grant I would love for us to have a conversation about how we can find it anyway That's it for Managing Report, okay Trustees anything else? And I will just note again that we added to the reading file public hearing notice for the tip the transportation improvement Program at the RPC Oh For Wednesday July 18th at 6 at their Canal Street office, that's probably more for us But that's their big program, okay, good Yeah, I just wanted to acknowledge I had a little snafu with front porch forum this weekend and I Went online to pop to post some stuff for sale And I'm not sure why but it posted and said it's just my neighborhood It would be personally it posted to all of the village neighborhoods under me as a trustee trying to sell something So today I published an apology Because I don't know how it happened. I don't know why it happened But I just don't want anyone to think I'm trying to take advantage of my role at this on this board to sell my old stuff So well any proceeds you can just give it to the So yeah, I don't know how that happened, but I hope no one complains Okay, thank you Okay, so we are on to the consent agenda Okay any further Discussion all in favor Okay, I am going to making motion that pursuant to the open meeting law in one BSA section 313 and section 313 One F the trustees going to executive session to discuss a confidential attorney client communication Regarding possible litigation to which the public body May be a party where premature public knowledge would place the village of Essex Junction at a substantial disadvantage and to invite the unified manager assistant manager and village attorney and Public work public Essex Junction recreation and parks director To be present second Any further discussion all in favor? Opposed and we will take a brief five-minute recess while we clear the road. Thank you