 My name is Nicholas Vitek, I'm a research scientist in the animal and human health program and I mainly do work in the lab or plan experiments in the lab. So initially I thought that I worked in an impact on gender issues. I thought that we were very far from reaching women and we used to have this joke in the lab saying that the gender balance in our project was to have 50% males, 50% females in our animal groups when testing vaccines. But then we had these seminars at ILRI on how to incorporate gender in our work. And this is when I realized how like working on a particular livestock species can have an impact on women, for instance working on a disease that affects chicken can have a real impact on women because for instance chicken are mainly managed by women. So that's when it helped me understand the impact that our work can have on women if we decide to work on a particular animal species. And yet, so there was this recent call on livestock and antimicrobial resistance and with the PI we decided to work on poultry and then I remembered having been educated on gender issues at ILRI that it would be nice to now have a gender, a real gender component on the project and that's when I decided to reach out to our gender expert at ILRI. And yeah, so just to understand the dynamic around poultry farming in Kenya. So I think it's by educating scientists, especially lab scientists who think their work is very far from reaching or having an impact on women or gender issues is the best way to involve more gender work on lab-related projects.