 What's up everybody? Welcome to SBM Boys. My name is Liz Jackson and I'm back again with yet another interesting interview. So the gentleman on my left wenginewenyumneza kumunamjwa, but I'm going to let him introduce himself. My name is Vaga Genius, creative director at MIB. Thanks so much for allowing us to come. I just want us to get right in to it. So, you are a creative director, right? But at MIB, what is MIB? Men in business, it's a record label. Oh, it's a record label? Yeah, it started, it's one year old right now in the country, even if it's packing waves, but we are just one year. Yeah, sure. All right, so men in business, you've just said it's one year and you've been doing talent management for one, I'm just an, I told Steve Simpobol, the greatest, Unamuta great. He's great, he's a good. I respect him so much, yeah I respect him. So we saw on your Instagram, these press release that you put out on social media that now, you're terminating the contract with Steve Simpobol. So the first question that I have, had you signed the contract for a period of time or you decided to terminate before your time affected? Ya, termination means getting out the contract before the signed period, so it means we are getting out of it before the period. And it's something that happened on a board meeting, so ya, they made a decision and I cannot go against the decision of the board because I'm just one of the employees. So, when we get on that contract, you say that there are 35 days for both parties to agree. And one of the main questions that we want to ask to non-angamsaniyakitoka kwa label, sometimes they do not get the accounts that's Instagram and YouTube, so what's the case with Steve? The case with Steve, when you call me the morning, I told you I'm very busy in the meeting, I'll talk to you later when I'm done. So, when we've already decided to go to Lafanya, we decided to go to Sisi Kamata, Sisi, to lika kwa kubaliana, after bada kubaliana kwa sema. It was nice working with Steve and we really appreciated him and we really want him to grow. So, one of the board directors said they voted, we were voting. So they voted let's not charge anything or start giving them emails and letters of our demands. And we've agreed to give 100% rights on all the music. All the music that we ever produced with that guy, we're giving 100% rights on them. So, does that mean Steve will have his YouTube and Instagram? Everything, he's going to have everything and in case he needs some extra support within that five days, we will give it. So, Tukiguzia, you know Steve has been in the game for quite a while, not sure how many years but to make what Tukijua Steve was. I think you signed him is when he started doing live performances. So, you as a label, what did you see in Steve? I just see the unique side because it could make people laugh at the same time and make music that has message. And sometimes in life you just want to get the message out. So you're like, he might be the best guy because people are taking it as fun and at the same time listening to him. So we were like, what if we just take this person and brand him and just cover him as an artist and make sure he is someone. And it's also be a good picture for us because we've taken someone who is taking another way and we've built gold out of it. So we were on the process, so bad this has happened but we still wish the best for him. So there are some allegations out there, you know. Kuna watu alikwa nongia kwenyem tandao, they say that you know Steve was being exploited by his management. Could you just clear the air about that? I think I talked about it but I'll talk about it for the last time because this is the last interview we are doing as a company. It's not good for us for our reputation. The allegations were wrong and you saw his interview with Eve Mungai when he said all those that whatever they said from the first interview is not true. The label was doing whatever they needed to do and take the responsibility they needed despite going extra mile. So as far as you can see their issues were to have their own control and run it as a business, as a family business. And I think we buy that because according to us kibiyashara, kido go, is tapishana. Ya, evo tu yani. That's all I can say for now. If I think so. Alright, so recently to make watu kuna, Steve was for some reason, he's, I don't know whether it's a girlfriend or my wife. Would you say that him being in a relationship was part of the reason why it became difficult to work with Steve? I cannot comment because we have different ways where we react to our love and we respect that. And personally I respect that and I know what love can do. I don't really know the motive behind all this because we can blame the wife and at the same time there's more energy behind their wives. I don't really understand but on a professional level the way they addresses was wrong. Because I think we have our offices and everything I wish they could just raise it and we just follow the right path to the conclusion. But all in all we say good. Ya. So after you released the statement, has he reached out to you, what's the relationship right now with Steve Osimpo boy? My relationship is good with him is good. Not me only the old team is good and we are happy that he's a free man right now. We just want to see Aki Songambeleani at Muomba Isana Road in Yuma, kwaivo sistwata kumomba. Now we have to talk to the PA before we reach Steve Osimpo. Steve Osimpo? Ya. So someone who picks the call and now you've asked what's your problem and you just say we want to pass this message then it's all fine. We will tell him. I think I'm going to call Steve Osimpo today and see who picks his phone. So many business as a label during the period that you've managed Steve Osimpo, what can you say are two things you've learned as a label when managing an artist? I think the artist need to understand it's a business. It's not a relationship. So I think what people need to understand specifically artist, it's business. You are here because you are in a business. These people are spending their money and they expect something from you. It might not be after one year or maybe because building an artist will take you close to three years to start making solid returns. It will take you close to three years. So for us we say the situation we've had with Steve Osimpo, it's only let's say about one year. So it means the artist needs to have a lot of patience. If the label has a patient and we are not complaining about your bills, you have to have patience with us for you to table millions. So ya, take patience. Ya, I really prefer patience once of the time. So to kimalizia there is this one person who commented on the whole issue. His name is Kereji Thedon. And he seemed not to know what man is in business. He is actually a mani nini wa tuwakuza suti. Ya, so in regards to that naka sema, you know you are pairings with girls who are not looking good. But for you, would you say that you gave 100% during the one year that you managed Tivo? Was it a 100% affair? I cannot put my 100% resources because I have other things. Or rather did you give it your best? Ya, I give it my best shot. You know, every artist have different branding. I cannot brand Tivo the same way. Maybe I'll brand maybe Jovial or maybe other artist. Then you know, Kereji, he has a failed history with artist. Ya, I know you guys know. So with Kereji, I cannot comment so much because I don't really know more about him. I don't know much about Kereji. I just see him on the internet. So everybody has freedom to put your comments, freedom to analyze the situation. But artists are being branded because if we bring another artist, we want branding the same we did with Steve. If we bring another artist, we want branding the same. Ya, so even we see those strategies that we were using to market songs, they change depending on the artist. So Kereji comments doesn't matter according to us so much. Alright guys, hope we've answered some of the questions that you had for Steve Osimpo Boy's previous management. So I hope I'll get Steve. I'll try and call him on air. We'll see who picks. Then hopefully he's gonna do an interview with us. So my name is Liz Jackson. See you on the next one.