 but I still feel so are coming the slow So how do you think you have a pace at hand Our sons are coming They haven't changed how we explore and avoid nuance Like everyone else Those who are doing what they want, they are on it We are all fighting We are at loss kama sayi nduwasa niwa nafanya amapiyano in Kenya like umnafam ki onagi tumpi nafanya, nikam nafanya wa tuko injiwa ajali in Kenya maniwa api wana ajali tu inu muziki na pop from Africa so piya tukoe to jump on trends tumsi fight new trends let's jump on new trends ya I just like to add a bit of an answer to what you said you know you talked about why is it not just fans from different types of music but other artists fight music I like to say that's very sad it's very sad because for us guys the problem we've had in this country been a very big problem in this country in a lot of things is that we concentrate not on building ourselves but on ensuring your friend collapses you're more interested in someone's failure so I can wake up in the morning na fikiri ya e so I'm more worried about someone else's suffering and instead of realizing what I'd have to say this Nigerians did right which is they started working together that video started working with Wizkid Wizkid started working with Bonoboi started working with Thames Tiva Savage and they came together and they came together not to start building their music and now internationally they perform together Sindio but in Kenya we concentrate on other people's failures instead of using them or working with them to build bigger successes together Sindio First of all guys Tunataka Kuxima Santi at least you've come through here and we appreciate you arriving especially at such short notice for this discussion I think it's a very important discussion for some I was very old I know seeing as the young guys they call very strange but there's a good reason for that I think the story Tunataka kongaju jyakini is story I I hope you are not affecting someone in a leak I'm sorry So guys thanks for coming through and I think the thing we want to talk about today for us guys is very special and very important and it's not about just music in terms of sanina kuimba it's a bit bigger than that one of the things we'd like to talk about is just take a look at where we've come from in the sense that you know music is very important in this country and I know that of late we've been hearing about a style of music that's very important that's hitting picking on a kudamutakona followers and hit and buy Zilafika 1.7 million because that music is touching people and touching different kinds of people for different kinds of reasons that's why Kila Mutanatuliza what is this music and what is it about? Sindio now the last time we talked about Kenyan music this much was I think ukumana late 90s early 2000s Sindio and we know what kind of music was going on at that time the last time young guys had music that they were proud of us Kenyans na kuna kwa concert ama kuh listen the whole day to only Kenyan music ilkwa those days of Kinaugopa and Kina Khalif Sindio where guys loved the music and they loved what it was about then things disappeared and changed over a period of time and over the last few years we've gone through a moment where we're not very proud of our music certain countries want to ingiliatuna nyamaaza ya pakuna kubali that we don't have anything to talk about but of late to kingiliwa to kuna story to najibu and what's even more interesting is those guys out there are also beginning to accept this music when you have something that comes from your country or from your people that is happening you should never turn around and start either dissing it challenging it but see how you can be part of it and celebrate it to make your people bigger Sindio and that's why we think this is important we have a chance today right today to go back to what Kenyan music was and not on the same level to take it even a level higher some guys here talk about 10 levels higher amma yeah and the guys who we are seeing here young guys who are trying to make that possible how any more ambassador the ambassador of our music the ambassador of our culture our culture in the sense that you live to na lead na you are very big to konaio Sindio yeah and that's why we think it's extremely important that we not only celebrate and just listen to this music or bedrooms but we celebrate it and we talk proudly about it and we stand for it because we are back where we belong where we are proud of our style and our vibe Sindio so I think at that time I used to listen that kind of music and I'm seeing there's a it's been a very long time for me to turn around say ma I am so proud of the music I'm listening to anagama me guzi me deidi anagama dance as I used to but I can appreciate the music the way I used to and there's nothing like the pride we're feeling at the moment so guys we're here not to talk about music we're here to celebrate the beginning of the next level in Kenyan music and not just music things around music Kenyan music culture is of it is hote see just the sound every single thing that operates lives and breathes in our music so I'm gonna let the guys introduce themselves probably talk a little bit more about why is this thing so special why does this music mean so much to us so I'll let Julie take over and try and tell us the sort of why we are celebrating this type of music I've not said the music peace I have not said what music it is because I'd rather someone and buy and do an itengeneza while I'm buying an iimbia I don't want to talk about it so I'll say this music which is our music so my name is Julie I was told to introduce myself as a cultural shepa so that's what we'll go with I'm a cultural shepa in this industry so why this music first of all it speaks to me I am a genzi I identify as one and one of the things that is very very unique about urban tone and the urban culture is the inclusivity it has mixed of beats with what millennials would understand and also what would understand in terms of the language in terms of the beat so it's very inclusive music the other thing it's very impactful music it impacts people from it brings people together from wherever from Buru to Kileleswa and everyone is jamming to this music so I would say that this music is very very inclusive and also it has an identity from its logos to its very unique colors to the beverages and the food that comes with it it's very Kenyan oriented and therefore it gives us an identity yeah yeah so as Julie I said I think there's a lot to celebrate it gives us a sense of identity it's very powerful music it's got chance for young people to start earning it's got chance for the young people to start celebrating and the biggest thing about it music it has positive vibe we speak positive vibe that's why whatever is hitting against us we use it to actually grow and not to hit back and the true essence and the true place where this music actually comes from the home of this music is sitting at this table it's not an individual it's not soundcraft it's not owned by kina motif but they are all part of what represents it and they are all part of the authentic and the real Kenyan Abanton music which motif we talk about yeah so I don't know where to start maybe explain why the May 1st event as you guys have seen there are so many guys who are trying to like corrupt our culture it's something that people don't understand yet because out of Lisa why you sampling beats maybe actually let me start answering that question first like when I saw guys online using this school beats I saw an opportunity of bridging millenials and Gen Zs so millenials like those guys but understand those beats of Sean Paul he's a beat zakinashagi like one append he's a beat Lafui as our young ins of course on a letter of vibe the new school madans, machinashons awasiyani so like when I saw much those two generations and I felt like for once I had a chance to see them before to see the previous generation of music was I was like at that music I said to myself it's not easy but I was like it's not easy because I was in a club so I feel like I had a chance after that I was like I knew I had to accept so to see what I was going to say so I get so the May 1st event to launch the official colors like you guys say you have a color plan you know these are urban nights you know yeah an urban night and I feel I represent your culture so I want you to know if you have a color plan if you have a color plan you know these are the colors so I would like you to bring you to you know what you feel like what you feel in your urban like you push your movement so you get so I think that's the whole point of the May 1st event I like Kunatuaji Soundcraft everything to do with like Abu Agwan Soundcraft Music producer behind some of the urban songs as you as you guys have heard it's not about either one of us it's a very inclusive genre and it's far beyond a genre it's a culture that we're trying to shape and to present to you guys and again unite the millennials the Gen Zs we'll say all kind of vibe now Kali for Gopa type of music we'll say one of any of the new type of music to be Trinite Pamoja all of it and yeah we celebrate our own original sound that has a background has a history has evolved over years and uh in the kwaimbrest yeah and so we can compete fairly with our peers from other countries yeah create a level playing fit yeah think I'll let the artists introduce themselves for those of you who don't know them we can start with uh yeah yeah I'm uh Godichena people know me as Asapero Asapa I am one of the biggest Kenyan artists right now Anasiati Kiburi Yamanini it's because our music himependo nakilam too Abanton to me as an artist it has changed my life kabisa can't compare the me I used to be before Nyanze Abanton this is something to the Kachin it took time before to he to even to Ipateo Jina Abanton and uh niliskiwa sevenga kilalamika I used sampling beats ini ni ni ni level I wanted to tell guys that for example let me use the song tiktoker tiktoker tukitumia yo beat to let after the producer and I talk lemo to cut after kina Jua Kali so niki to tunenda tunna associate na awasani on atupatia copyrights and license but not umia so it's something ikona process to siya titu na munkahili on ee bit to mendana zi so Abanton is a culture nani culture machua culture safi aina kitu yote chafu the videos zetu kiangaliya we are very clean so you guys respect manze mi mi na ito scobik nani joa kama Mr. Tiktak kama zibardo alaito afoom so mi na feel kama wasewa shaabonga kila kitu apami meneza sema Abanton nimin fukisha mbali asa kila kitu ishaabonga to wasewa shaabonga onona so mi neza pastu the next artist manze ajin trodus Magi Magi Magi Magi well go on guys mi mi atasina nengia kusemon ase binewa twin gona juo na ikla shon ama you can call me MMZ ama Magi Magi and I'm one of the biggest artist nasiki guri piya mm fax that shows lafu and why Abanton Abanton do the right choice of music say kusema kuili on my on my plate kusema tu kuili na mi ni ku reili kuskumana na yotana zafuja kwanjiya ya kusema Abanton na iwezi du mi ni ku reili sinali kilasikunku studio nangoja tu kudrop mahi okay ongeza kitu kuna bide na aga ongeza aga aga aga bide na yama bide bismiz kila mprasha aseema ala sinali kila mprasha ongeza motifa mesama kila kii kusuna mesema mi Abanton tu dewa inkutakuskiza ama mkutakuskiza bai fos hahahah hahahah kusuna hahahah tu I am Abanton master tu na kumkuri kresenti kalcha edwi kusuna kumkuri kresenti na onafona ilan jo itakwa obvious daily sa ii kalcha edwi na kumkuri megi kwe bright sama na se tingi watu understand tu na fatuna tu na tuliana kalcha edwi kuli kukui kui dis sa tu move on with it tu na tu plona so sama giz kuli mesema and kama di needsu spiku kukonju mabano wanwa tu me putea kutkua ta inga inga hahahah yo agwa nitsu kapi official in the building su na gani full time good vibe kila sifu atuki o la patko good vibe Abanton kuzote tu na push muziki na venye mkwam kiyo na wanze muziki mkwiki so nikitu niya kubali so tu ende leku yenge zia power kus nikitu yanin su na do nina motivate wa se yenduki tu minda sewa wengi na me se mazote ee tu bless to your design ukonju makuna story Adiko chaina maza wanze banjuka de so nabili wato me sema the truth is a truth me sema Abanton to the world It's not about us guys celebrating this music just for ourselves it's about us boosting about this music to the rest of the world tumupatenjiya yaku mkwenyaku wa relevantena nangubu in music So, the next time West Africa starts seeing a moment where a story is about a person who is Afro-Biti Pulaan and tells a story about him. Let us begin to have an answer to the world when it comes to music. And that answer begins on May 1st. May 1st, when an event where we are trying to introduce not just what the guys have said here in terms of music what I'm going to say is Culture. Culture in lifestyle. What we mean and what we believe in and what we are about. So that is going to happen on May 1st we begin to say, this is who we are, these are our colors, this is what we stand for, this is what we believe in, Sindio. And we want to introduce that not just to Kenya, but to whoever you want to share it with, Sindio. Kono jwa tu kwenje, sambasi yo story, but it starts on May 1st, we're going to have an event, we're going to give more details next week when the original Reel Abanton is actually beginning to take shape, to take shape all across the country. And beyond the borders. So that happens on May 1st, remember guys, and we want you to join us for that when we introduce ourselves, or reintroduce ourselves as Kenya on the next level to the world, Sindio. Any questions guys want to ask? How has it been for you now, since what happened in Abanton, number 2, what do you think? It was a moja at the time. Okay. How has it been for me? Yeah. I feel like the previous generation of music, okay, but you can say to me, I feel like it's previous for me. I feel like it's something to fight, because I feel like it's something new to me and it's something that I feel like also. Abanton, if I were to have done like two months of beads, maybe there was a chance I would have done it, but now I have a chance to connect or fight. There was a time when I was a couple of corporate meetings, I feel like it's something new to me and it's something that I'm going to be excited about. Nga onafiai prungo mazaki na wasi So na feel like tumesa kubriji o gap Ne ondo ki tu li kuna miss with the previous music So badawa da tiji introduce vizuri Ndi o utanda kuhintroduz mo melodies kwa music Kwa before tu ame kwa kilab tu on these songs To introduce melodies Ya, it kwa iso For me it's a previous, that's this meaning For me? Ya Nda feel like asi una jwa kila metu ananda haiki move too So na feel like for me nilkwa na fanya aio Ganga tone, tu li kwa pioneers But tu li faiti wasana na nika ikwa personal Ilkwa kuzo tu alikwa na feel like Kuna ikwi na miss So bile tu li kwa introduce Abantone Nilkali shwasi nika mbiya shidai Tu li kwa na these challenges So let's not do this To fanya vii Na tu li kwa capture more markets So ndo tu ajaribu badawa That is me, that's the way kama Moving forward No, me nezam kasi inizi fanya reiki Like na se matu, like what I'm pushing Ya, me na like na fanya ii po Everything na fanya Nda feel like Me na mwa na mento asi yata Soundcraft like na mento na mamiya like Isfanya zi mistakes li fanya Tu fanya ii vii tu shikane Adafu the first time actually Udo na producer zwa kipafom Jis kia pafok, producer kipafom kwa ngomazake They have never done it Producer na changu nyumbani Misani na performu goma na mikdozake So for the first time in this culture Tu kwa na iu performance Like producer me kuja po na usani wake Na fanya setia kia na lipo So that's the kind of thing I'm doing Fanya vii tumpia na The first thing, wakenya na kwenya But still wakenya wakama Why do you think I couldn't be picking up peace? Wajaki tumoja na kenya Na nii kwa na iu isu na usani Like watu apendi kuja mpi ya kitumbia New trends Like everywhere else na Iberia kia ona ama piano Wana kimi li ama piano They own it Kenya tumajari buku fight Ati ki tu sii etu Lafana ifanya too late Kama sayi na usani wana fanya ama piano in Kenya Like wana firm kia ona kitumbia na fanya Nika mna fanya Watu kwenya wajali In Kenya maniwapi Wana jali tu Inu musici na pop from Africa So piya tu kwae to jump on trends Wuntum sii fight new trends Let's jump on new trends I'd just like to add a bit of an answer to what you said You know, you talked about Why is it not just fans from different types of music But other artists fight music I'd like to say that's very sad It's very sad because For us guys, the problem we've had in this country Been a very big problem in this country in a lot of things Is that we concentrate not on building ourselves But on ensuring your friend collapses You're more interested in someone's failure Kuliko wushinde So I can wake up in the morning Na figiri ya e I wish it was a dish but I hope it's also a kula So I'm more worried about someone else's suffering And instead of realizing what I'd have to say this The Nigerians did right Which is They started working together That video started working with Whiskey Whiskey started working with Bonoboi Started working with Thames Tiva Savage And they came together And they came together And started building their music And now internationally they perform together Sindio But in Kenya we concentrate on other people's failures Instead of using them or working with them To build bigger successes together Sindio Ya Today is a day We have a bunch of artists right here Ilevi doi li kwa na Nairobi NGC I don't know whether it's the same No, miata si doi in litagiwa But na feel like Movement iki wa strong Si lasimu hendu wukarushe maa e ani Kunatua ta kufaite ukochi Na kuna tuata fight Na na feel like nipo Awa toa mihaza kuna Movement ii me shika Before ni li kwa na tri siwa Awa ni ki Si guni sa maa abanton Ewa tua li ni tu si sana So for mi ku feel like Kunatua mihaza kufaite ya The same thing ii kuna faitia Na feel poa ya ni So nipoa ii na manisha Movement ii na grow strong Ya So one of the kufaite Ni ni toa paniwa Abanton To remain relevant Uli na genia tuo na kakuja Tu na kubika ni campaign So now that you starting a movement If the culture is there You will have run courage What will make you stay relevant Koga teia? I think one of the things that will make Abanton Outlive many other genres is Making people relate more with the culture And embedding the culture in their everyday life Apart from that also the music The music should be evolving We should not stick like the same kind of music We started at this point The same beat It should grow And adapt to what the market or the audience Wants if it in line with the culture Correct, one question is How do you bridge the gap between The Abanton artist And all the other artists That can help her Can get the artist So the thing is Is just to bring them up To the culture But I give it to the young people Mi sese ma kuna vita Kus ni watu anamis Understand ni ni na apen Ni kauseme Ipopiki kuja So engini wa sii ni ni So na feel like Utuwa kitakufanya Ini genre na traka Akunam tua na ii Mi sii oni yo genre Akunam tua na ii oni If you want to jump on it Jump on it Ii like Uktakufanya regesa iifanya Uktakufanya gangeton Just do it So it's not like Tu na sema ini eitu Don't do it Wanyu wa nushapuna oni ii Kituna move On iifanya Yeah Okay, one last question Why Abanton? A for Africa Alafu ili kwa Niki tupi ini fub Le sound Badwata ii jafika mali tu na panga Ani We still trying to make it more Ii like Tua bana is the Kenyan sounds Basaza instead of view Uktakufanya ii represent Africa Also for alphabetical order Kenyanda kutafcha amapiyanu Afrobeat Aba Lazimo je position piyanu Yeah Few more questions Commentator Ngeza at least a few more questions Ma kama ni ku cheka-cheka To me, li kusho Mi na tatu kwa appreciate Wanyu wa nge iifanya Stafi Because it's all about entertainment At the end of the day Siangali e o tu na pika na pika Mi entertainment Pa kenya tu konashida mobi ni Tukipata kachasaka fukurai Tu shainu nae Na baton niki tumefanya uniki tu mage Kama magi magi Ti mreo Io lai mi pekea ke tu Misis kizagi the rest Mi yaki shasema tu magi magi mi nkosa No, no Ya, so it's a good thing Napi ya, maybe just to add on a question About you guys, maybe Getting the copyright from For example, Yaduakali The one you said for Tik Toka And we've seen pya mepanya Mkoma zingina international And we are sure there are people you can't reach So how does it go? Motifu talk about readings and how readings work So for that one, the only same Like, we are not saying it's a bit online It's an opportunity because One is a rich crowd Kama agency is not reaching The normal bit So me you encourage more Like, you can't reach the level You can't do stuff Like a look for talents So me you want to be like You can't just To me a bit flany You post I love to be like It's a viral You can't say it's a bit You can't say it's a bit But it's a sharp It's a sharp I'm not saying it's a hit But it's a fight Kila siku na tumizu bit Kusia juli kana tumi a bit original Kiyangali asa izi top 10 Goma zina trenda, in Kenya Most niya say Uizi ui umse na umse And a few others On ya oje fika jikuzu ako samcheck So na izongoma ni original Daki no li tumi onjiya Like a short cut Yaku kata cross Kujuli kana on Tik Toka Tbethi me Ime toa say sana So like Ya, I think desha Nisha ma li osa liya Ya I think there's a post That was trending I don't know yesterday Or maybe two days ago About I think it was a reposted I don't, I can't remember But When I say ma It's not Abanton There's nothing new That's my name Okay I don't know who posted it Ah, niwa tuwa ya Lafuni ni ni piya Ata ni uli zeki tumoja Bila Abanton ni li tokia Milanda Kuliza kina Oktopizo ma suali Cezi blame Oktopizo Oktopizo aji what we are planning Like a rezo bit Nisha tii tu sii niwa Jinga tu seime tu mii bit Yashagi Tu na jua Pambe ya tu miya Tu na jua Andit kwa reason why we are doing it I think Nisha explain niyo So mkanda Kuliza Oktopizo na elewi That's a wrong person to know what's happening But again These artists Before we ask them Everybody Every artist Unafa Kuliza producers They have a view They have a view of what's happening In the music industry And we can't be channeling Every question to motif We can't channel every question Nisha na niwa Like from now to our creative structures Ki tu cameo wezi kuliza Mkanda Kuliza Kouza Mkanda akuji record Nafufa find out from the source Nii get Uto na ignoigi source A lafumu nda kuhatak The wrong people Tu na feel like Kuliza Tuli kwa na niyo suali Na niyo jibu tukase Mkanda tu tulia for now Sabu tuliko na plan And it's already working kanya west? Do they not go and sample beats from the 70s or 80s? When you listen to most of the producers of Faria Williams, they're picking up songs from 1960s, 1980s. The difference is the creativity comes from what you take with what you have and celebrate it. And that's why we're calling this a culture because we're taking things we love, rebuilding them to say this is what we're about, isn't it? And that's where the enjoyment is, that's where the culture is, that's where the originality is. That remixing or reworking. It's reinventing yourself. But pay attention to understand. A bantun, no, kuna jatujo angile yi stafka producers. A bantun, say about sampling. Nilaik nmwambi, angile yi ato obtain songs, sayizi, un ambi, ngomagani me sample yi on those songs. Zote ni a bantun, original songs. Mani get, ili kwaan just a way of kutokia. Kuna mtu aneza toki atu, aneza ma panya kiki za ke uko, ajulikane. So yo ni nchi alaika yaku bridge, anyu kutokia ku music, uskike. Alafu atu aneza mani reizi. Bwede kuna satsama taja. Alisa mani reizi kitu meizi beats atu aneza hit. Neza mtu challenge atu mi o beat ameika hit. So actual hit song. It's not easy. Kwa se na salutu ase ni onoma. Not very good questions. One or two others to close? The abantuns. With the youth. Yeah. Again, the point on May 1st, that's when we went to the real brand. Kusaha, Zote, these are the real guys doing abantun. Kuna tuna watara mani rakupia ribia brand. Pia ona quick back or something. So lezima to introduce now the real brand, the real colors, the real fonts. Dwa atu ezeku, identify who are the real people. Alafu. Dwa piwa sani wa si kuliwa yani. That's the point. Yeah, I don't know what has happened in the past. Is the way we are working with partners. It's very different from what we have worked, the way we have worked with partners in the past. We are looking at brands and people who are willing to work with the music, not to try and own the music or buy the music and say it's theirs. So those are the kind of partners we are looking to work with, yeah? So that that way the music is owned by artists and celebrated by artists. If you notice in all the music that where you have seen people challenging or the festivals and concerts being announced and the people challenging and saying, we are doing this, we are doing that because we are Abantono, Ubatono, whatever you want to call it, yeah? The difference is in all those things, if you will not see any of these guys attacking them, we could go out there and prove that this is a genuine place this music was born. These are the real owners, but the maturity of the way they are handling it is, don't say I'm real, show you're real. So we'll show you on May 1st who owns this music, who is this music about? This music should be for all of us from here to the rest of the world and not about us fighting the rest, it's about sharing it. So that's why there is no defending. Ujiawana mutia kisema, kibutu hende tua shoa, ienu ni feik, ietu ni ukweli, there's nothing like that. Just show the realness by the product and you know the truth speaks for itself, sindio, why are these songs in the chat? On this table you have the top songs in the country. So you have to say that you're the real stuff. If you're the number one musician, number two musician, number three musician, number four musician, number five, all on one table, then you're the real one. So there's no defending your story to Tua Chia. Let the fans decide.