 Where is your decency? Is something funny? Are you going to be transparent with your customers? Or are we going to force transparency? Is this Sainsbury's here? Come inside. Three cell headquarters. Are we not allowed in? Are we allowed in please? We come inside. Excuse me guys, do you mind if we come inside to play some screens so the Sainsbury's workers can hear the screams of their victims? You don't want us inside, we won't go inside obviously, but just politely asking. The CO2 gas chamber footage on YouTube from a UK gas chamber. Maybe you should look at these signs and see what's happening to the pigs. Is something funny? No. Is something funny? Would you like to let us all know what's funny? I'm just trying to get to that. Okay, but is something funny about pigs screaming in gas chambers? I do not care. We're allowed to legally protest. Okay, do you have a problem with legal protests? Do you like having rights? Do you like having rights just to let you in? That's not my decision is it? We're allowed to legally protest. If it's inconveniencing you, if you'd like further evidence, then make this release look like, sorry everyone, we understand. Agency have been making informed tractor supplied products. And that's 60% of the pigs in this country are piglets to death, and I'm on Sainsbury's knowing that you are misleading consumers into purchase to the gas chamber. Customers make an informed choice. Why don't you tell them that's CO2 Sainsbury's. By sharing the footage of what pigs in CO2 gas chambers have to do at every one of your stores. If you haven't seen pig nararans see they deserve, I think now we'll watch it in these gas chambers that supply Sainsbury's. Then they can do it in an informed way. Right? Have you heard what we've been chanting? Okay, so essentially the reason we're here is because pigs are being tortured in CO2 gas chambers. I don't know if you know about that. Okay, you should be informed yourself. Me and my team got the first footage from inside of a gas chamber in the UK. What is this happening? It's happening in gas chambers all over the UK. It's happening in all of them. 90% of the pigs in the UK are being gassed in CO2. Okay. Okay, and we know for a fact, for a 100% fact that you are being supplied to by companies that gas pigs. Do you know the name of those companies so I can look into it? You don't know who supplies you with pork? I do know who supplies the pork. And you don't know how they kill the pigs? I don't know that detail. I can go look into it. If you give me the names of the companies, I'm happy to be more than one. Yeah, well I can tell you the names of the companies that do this to pigs and then maybe you can see if they're supplying you. So I don't think Pilgrim's Pride is, but Pilgrim's UK is one. Yeah, I've heard of that one actually, but I don't think it is. Cran'swick is another one. Cran'swick is one of our suppliers, yep. I know. Carrow foods. I think maybe you should look into Cran'swick if they supply you. They do supply as well. Okay, and what would you do if footage come out of one of your suppliers CO2 gas chambers? What would you do? I need to look into the issue more closely because I don't understand. Do you have, do you make any, what's your, what power do you have at this company? So I'm the director of corporate affairs. Okay. So when issues like this are happening here, this is my responsibility to look into them. Okay. I don't know the specific one and enough detail to understand the other way, but I will look into it and if you give me your contact details. We're saying let the customer make an informed choice. They are buying this packaging and this marketing, right? You're allowing the industry too much. We need a free market where people can make informed decisions and say that by definition these pigs are being tortured, right? By every scientific study done on this topic, right? I will look into that because I don't understand the issue. Okay. You should be informed, which is it gross negligence. That is gross negligence because you're responsible now. Who does your marketing? Your marketing tortured pigs to consumers and they do not know. I will look into it. You do have the welfare guidelines, so what you're saying is true. I will look into this. This is supposedly the highest. There's no alternative for pigs. So you're going to tell your customers they are being tortured. Are you okay with paying for that? If they're not okay, they can buy something else. They're still going to Sainsbury's. They can buy a product that doesn't contain this. They're not being informed, so they're being misled because it's all green grass and pastures and we supply a lot of RSPCA. RSPCA pigs go to the gas chamber too. Let me look into this. You can watch Pigner and it talks all about it. If Sainsbury's do not become transparent as soon as possible, we will force transparency because we've investigated one and right now you have an opportunity to say to the customers, pigs are being literally tortured, caused immense suffering, pain, fear, agony, distress, the spiritual distress, and you can say it to them or they're going to find out themselves by footage. I'm going to give you my undertaking. I've listened to you. I don't know enough of an issue to comment on it in detail today. There are lots of issues that I do know things about but this one I don't know enough about. It's having an informed conversation with you today but I promise to you that I will go away and look into it. Thank you. You've shown a lot of courage to come out here and to face a group full of protesters, so I want to commend you for that but it is grossly negligent of Sainsbury's not to know about this because it's literal pigs being tortured. This is a serious topic of animal abuse. I would love for you to right now it will take you one second of your time right now. If you do care about pigs that are being supplied to Sainsbury's, do you care about them? Do you care about what what Sainsbury's reputation is? Very much so. Yeah I would too because you're putting your name on it. I just want you to see one minute of... I'm not going to do that right now. Why not? I've heard you. Why not? You don't care? You don't care? There you go. You have an opportunity now to see what pigs are going through in these chambers. This is our cameras that we put in here. You can see them suffering today. CO2 is CO2 this is 90% concentration the same that RSPCA assured. Look at them trying to escape. Look at them trying to escape. CO2 causes immense pain, fear, suffering, asphyxiation, causes carbonic acid to form in their eyes and lungs. So they're literally suffering in torture. So look at it. Look at these four animals. Please just have some humanity. I do which is why I'm talking to you but the right side to my pick is which of this bit relates to Sainsbury's. Cran'swick have gas chambers operating all over the UK. And what are they going to say? Well there's no alternative. We're searching for alternatives but 20 years they've known this is doing this. They're not going to get alternatives. So we know people are going to buy bacon and you supply what people want but you need to tell them and make so they can make an informed choice. That's it. Okay thank you very much. I expect you to if not we're going to blast the footage all over wherever we can and let the public know that Sainsbury's are misleading them and they're completely in torturing pigs in gas chambers. All right that's what we have to do for the animals. Bless you. Thank you very much for coming out and talking to us. I don't expect anything to be done but she showed a lot of courage to come out here. That was brave. Credit where credit is due. But it's still walking in like that when we're shouting and stuff. That takes some f***ing courage. Well she's our commender for that. But it's gross negligence. Still animals are being tortured. I hope she does look into it. But I'll give her the benefit of doubt for now because she had the courage to come up and approach us and speak to us and I think that I'm actually happy with that. And so it could have been a PR statement. It was it sound a bit PR-y. Look I've heard you. We're going to take it back. I've heard you. We're going to take it back. I'm most of that piece of s***. She seems like exactly the kind of person that could do something. She's brave enough to come out here. She's brave enough to go through big ways. And Sainsbury's do always respond to investigations but it is like we care about animal welfare. We are s***. Nothing changes. Fiddle lip service. Could be lip service but give her the benefit of doubt for now. But she didn't want to watch the peak. Wouldn't she be curious to watch the peaks? Yeah. She found it hot. She was like. You'll complicit in their torture wouldn't you want to see it? Yeah. If you can't even watch it why are you feeding it to children? Yeah. Well we've got enough cops here to do another protest I think. So thank you for... Yeah well I achieved something. I don't have high expectations of the industry behind it but because she came up to us all. I thought that was very brave of her actually. And thank you for upholding our right to legal protest. Very much. Are you legal? Is that it for your truth today here? I mean if we go to protest anywhere I don't know we might spontaneously. I just can't guarantee. Yeah. That was actually a good one.