 Hey guys, so it's been a little while, admittedly, but Mark and I finally got a wound to watching Friday the 13th, Part 8. Jason takes Manhattan, and at least for me, I don't think it's as bad as I was led to believe. I've been I've been talking a lot of shit about this movie for a while and it starts off shittily. I'll admit it does not start off very well, but it's a film that gradually gets better throughout. Here's the problem with this movie. It's not any specific thing, it's that like the overall picture just doesn't work. Oh. First of all, like the concept alone. Jason gets brought back to life by like an electrocube underwater that like these two people are fucking in a boat and they drop anchor and I hope it's the joke. I really hope it's the anchor for some reason starts like tugging on this electrical cord while they're fucking. He's like, why is it moving like that? And I made the like, it's the motion and the ocean joke. And I hope that was the intention of the joke because it's terrible. There's no reason for it anyway. It was like only like electricity for whatever reason flows only out of one side of this thing and goes like directly into Jason. And we revive Jason again. Yeah, again. Like this and then apparently everything that happened in the last one with the whole psychic, the shining kid is gone. Yeah, well they reference it by where he is because he's covered in the dock, but that's it. But that's like there's no other reference to it at all. They did have a version of this script where Tina came back, but the money of course became a thing and like it didn't happen. They probably because this chick in this movie is basically her. Rennie, which I like the name Rennie. Yeah, because apparently what you said is she has some sort of psychic action. Yeah, she's like empathetic or whatever. She has empathy and she like sees. Yeah, and not only does she see memories of like we these weird flashes of Jason. Like Jason being like, save me mommy. So does everyone else apparently. Like the fucking dogs. The first vision we get, the dog reacts to her vision. And he like, it's like a fuck this. I'm out. And then at one point she relives this weird memory where creepy uncle pushed her in the water and she walks over to him. He's like, you pushed me in the leg. And he just immediately says, I'm sorry. It's like, not like, what the fuck are you talking about on the leg? Well, I'm sorry that she was totally watching boyfriend, dude was like, yeah, you messed around. Like what situation are you watching? Leaves jump into that and be like, yeah, I know where I am. Everyone by that point. Yeah, we all had heroin. She's got AIDS. So the point of the film is that this is high school prom thing. And a boat goes from a lake in New Jersey to Manhattan. Well, to wherever the first boat takes off from. Some other point on the Atlantic Ocean. And Jason somehow gets onto this boat and kills them all, almost all of them. They escape and they get to Manhattan a few more die. First of all, a movie called Jason takes Manhattan despite being the longest fucking movie in this series of 100 minutes, 25 minutes of actual Manhattan and actual Manhattan being Vancouver. Yeah, it was shot here. You see like Granville station and the Skytrain and like a whole bunch of other Vancouver stuff. They had two days of Manhattan, two days of Manhattan, which you can tell like they shot in Times Square. That was cool. My biggest problem with this. And again, it's one of the things that detracts from this whole movie for me is Jason. We talked about it a couple of movies ago where Jason's finally undead in six. Yeah. Where like technically he hasn't died yet. No. Jason, he might be slightly supernatural up to a certain point. He comes back from the dead and he's basically a zombie. This movie, he's literally, I mean, I don't like the video game. Like you can teleport in the video game like the new one that came out. Yeah. And I guess this is where they got it from. I actually couldn't remember any of this. Literally, he fucking gets everywhere. At one point, creepy uncle gets into a building through like a closed door. He's being chased. He's being chased by Jason. He runs, he's running away looking over his shoulder. Oh yeah, like that really terrible. I mean, that guy's not a horror actor, so like maybe he's just never run away from anything in his life because you could tell. And he like runs upstairs and then he gets thrown out of a window by Jason. Yeah. And it's like, damn, how the fuck can get there that fast? And if he's not teleporting, he's busting up boxes or like, yo, motherfucker kicking down a door and whatnot. And he is a thing though. The movie, again, starts off not very good. It's very boring. It's very rudimentary. The kills aren't that very interesting. But then I think it's right after the prom girl gets killed is when the prom girl gets killed. That's when it actually starts to get interesting. The shots start getting creative. The kills sort of get creative too. Some cool kills I like when he takes the stone thing and he smashes it into the guy. Yeah, I was like, where did some dude's chest? We didn't know. Oh, you know what? He's the guy who got beaten up. Here's the thing though. I bet you they put that on his face because they couldn't get the actor again for that day. So for some reason, he just has this cloth on his face when he turns the sauna. And we're like, why is he got the cloth on his face? Are we supposed to know who this is? Is that supposed to be the guy who got beat up in the boxing match? But it probably couldn't afford the actor anymore. He quit or something. But then yeah, once the kills start getting going, then the creativity with how the shots are composed. There's some good lighting. There's some great turns. There's also some terrible fucking shots. Oh, there's a feeling consistent as fuck. There's at one point where it happened at the beginning of the movie where he kills the girl in the box. And then there's this other time where what's his name? Which is a cool kill. Yeah. There's one where this guy goes toe to toe with Jason. And he literally punches him on this rooftop for what felt like two straight minutes. It's amazing. The trivia has it was a minute and sixteen seconds. A minute and sixteen seconds. Yeah. And that's it. And the thing is, one, it goes way too fucking long. And two, they do a shot where it's like on the other building rooftop. So it's a really wide shot. It looks super, super silly. And they cut back to it three times. Yeah. And I was like, what the fuck was this leading to? And then he's like, take your best shot. And Jason just fucking whoops that head right off. And it goes into the dumpster bin and the dumpster closes. And I was like, okay, really long setup, but that was fucking funny. And that's where like, this is the time to talk about it. This movie, for whatever reason, is throwing like humor into it. There's like, when Jason first does the impossible swim from the boat that they like, like rode slowly through fog through for like, yeah, a time lapse. Oh, and then like, he's just, they get there and he's like right out of the water, like right after them. But he gets up to the top and like, there's the billboard thing where it's like hockey mask, basically the Rangers, but with like the colors and the words changed to like East hockey league or something like that, whatever. But it's like the mask and he turns and looks right at the camera. Yeah. And it's a joke. And then there's another one where he turns and might have, and then there's one, probably the best one, which again is completely a break of character. It's a great shot, great turn, really funny, complete break of character, but just that's a fucking great part of that movie. I really like that part. And I re-watched it. We replayed it. And I like Kane Hodder and he really does like, I mean, there's a reason everyone considers him the best Jason. He's got a, he brings a uniqueness to this character. Like I really like CJ Graham. I like, I actually like most of the guys who play Jason. I think they get the like, that shape concept down the brutality. But he has the brutality in this. Like you can savoring it. Yeah. Jason kind of likes killing people in this. Like he's, he's not just a killing machine. He's, he seems a little, it's a little more slasher kill. It's a little more, it's more, it's, there's more like violence to the action as opposed to the violence of the action. I'm not sure if I can make that distinction. Well, no, yeah, he's, he's kind of embellishing. He's dramatizing these kills. Yeah. And yeah. So like you said, yeah, a lot of breathing for a dead dude. So that's the thing. Like there are some, there's a lot of pros, a lot more pros than I thought there'd be. There is some negatives. Like I said, really weird bad shots here and there. The story writing is terrible. At one point, the main girl is kidnapped by two drug dealers. One of them being Michael Benyer, the voice of Bob. Very basic. It's literally a terrible, terrible kid like seeing, like everything's terribly written about it. And then all of a sudden she just gets injected with heroin. Like, yeah, baby, you like this. Which really has nothing to do with this movie. Like she doesn't come down from the heroin. They don't talk about the most likely she contracted AIDS, HIV, something terrible. Then she kisses the other guy. And what did I say? It's like, oh, oh, shit, dude, you got HIV too now. She also, our main character, fucking kills someone. And this has nothing to do with Jason. Like, she has a hallucination of seeing kid Jason again. Which is a really oddly well edited mix of using car oil and water. Very interesting. At first I was like, what the fuck am I watching? And then I was like, wow, that's actually not a bad. But that's the actor. Because the edit when she hits him is fucking terrible. Oh, it's terrible. Like it's this like weird slow motion jerky thing and like the go to the kid and it's slow motion jerky on him. It's fucking awful. Oh, it's terrible. But she hits this barrier and everyone gets out except the one teacher. And the teacher was like, Jason didn't do anything there. Like this hero, our fucking hero in this movie just and our hero who just did heroin fucking kills her own teacher. And she doesn't even care. Slightly indirectly, but yeah, she barely reacts. And it talks about her dead parents. They shot him in a car accident. It's like, don't worry, we'll let it happen again. Like, you just did. Just killed someone in the car accident. Did. And at first I was like, maybe like, did they lose her? Like maybe they couldn't get her more for scenes because that's maybe they just cut her out or something like that. It's weird because it's like the only three of them read on your like wasn't there. And then they like, they've seemed to remember too late. And you don't see her in the car at all. The car just the cop car just explodes. And that's the thing with this film. It's an incredibly mixed bag. Like the first quarter of the film was terrible and very boring. But then it kind of does this like this is and it's got to play. It's got cool shots. It's got some funny, although like character breaky jokes. Oh, it's got some interesting kills. And the worst thing in this whole the ending is it down. First of all, toxic waste dumps through the New York sewer system like it's a thing people know. Yeah, but it's every night at midnight. We didn't talk about there's a doomed guy in this one crazy decade. It's like, you're all doomed. Did he die? I don't think so. There's so many people on the boat that they don't show die. There's that like one thing was like, there is no more restaurant. You're like, wait, what? Yeah, weren't there like 50 kids on this boat? Yeah, there was a there's supposed to be a grad prom yet apparently it consisted of like eight kids and two teachers. Yeah. And a dog and a crazy deckhand. Yeah, here are doomed. Like he doesn't just say this once. He says every time they pops up like, yeah, 10 times. And Jason's coming to kill you. More and more crazy each time. This movie. So the toxic waste dump through this and it like splashes over Jason and like melts them and like fire and screams. It's terrible. It's like one of the three different edits over top one. It's not a good edit. It's fucking bad. Like the guy I think the editor probably said, Hey, I got this to work really well with the boat kind of looking like it was rolling on the oil. I'm going to try that with Jason and it's like, Oh, dude, that would work. That would work. And then for me, the scene that if not the whole series definitely shatters the fuck out of this movie. Jason turns into his kid self. And he's dead. And he's dead, maybe, but they leave him there either way. So that if he is alive, he's dead. The dog's okay, though. Yeah, the dog comes back. They like keep bringing the dog back over and over again. Yeah. Not sure why. It's yeah. This movie is definitely it's kind of like they wanted it to be the cat from alien. Oh, Jonesy, but they suck. Yeah, it's it's it's a very strange movie. I would say it's definitely it's definitely probably one of the better shot ones when it's when it's good when it's good shot. It's the Dan Cluchier of shooting because sometimes it's fucking great. The rest it's just fucking terrible. So anyways, for your for your score, what are you going to do? This is this is just a two for me. I don't really don't like this movie. It's got moments. I'm going to give it a three. Wow. It happens. I was more positive about it. You were. That's like a rarity. This might be the entirety of our thing. It's the first time you've rated a movie higher than you. That's rare. That I actually I didn't mind this movie. I thought it was actually pretty good. You're just more wrong than usual. Oh, well, in comparison to the first few movies, like, dude, this movie actually got a fucking pulse. Ken Kersinger, Jason. Oh, yeah. Jason in favorite Jason. Kane Otterkill, like throws him into a window in this one. It's cool. Big ass motherfucker. Yeah, he's huge, dude. Yeah, like Ken Kersinger is like, way out of our family. That was the thing too. Like, Kane Otter is only like five foot 10. So he does a pretty good job for a short guy. Yeah, I think he's short. Shorter than Ken fucking Kersinger. He's taller than me. But like in terms of like when he was fighting other people. Like right in the middle of us. Yeah, pretty much. But yeah, he's great. But it is fun seeing Ken Kersinger in this movie because he plays Jason later. Yeah. And it actually it almost feels like if this movie was made later, it would be an obvious reference that they cast this guy who played Jason, but it's not. It's kind of a reverse method. Anyway, yeah, bye.