 Hey, Mary Lee here again for the 21 Convention. We're here with Skyler Tanner and you just said your 2014 talk and this year was a little different than Other years you talked about fatherhood it was interesting because when Anthony sent me a message to Inviting me back. I was kind of like me deep in fatherhood. I said well I talk about health and fitness and all that stuff I've talked about before but I don't really have anything. I think would be new or to the audience quite as interesting as Fatherhood and that might on its face seem a little bit far-fetched for a while These guys are going to end up getting married having kids and even even if they don't maybe to provide some amount of perspective for if they Have siblings who end up doing that or friends who end up doing that and if nothing else I think it's pretty funny I think the seriousness of it's a serious business, but you don't have to take it so seriously It's a lot of fun and so I he was on board with that to ride with it and you know, I'm not an expert I'm an expert on one kid And even that's a spurious statement at best I know but that's that's thousands of hours into it So you're pretty you're pretty an expert at least in my book Well, I'm an expert on on on where my son has come from and that's the tricky part because every day you get up You're like this worked yesterday. Why didn't it wasn't working now? So? Maintaining some flexibility is tricky Especially if you've gone to something you go to the same well like hey this this fixes a crying or this fixes this and you have to be willing to Almost like a Zen notion of like you don't you don't really know anything And and so you're gonna keep being open to trying new things and that's that's about all you all you learn is like You don't have one answer keep exploring your kids changing every day as are you and so when you told Anthony like I Want to do this thing on fatherhood. He didn't he was like yeah 21 conventions all about that sort of stuff Or was he like no you should do something on it? No, no absolutely not actually he was very supportive of it in the way the email kind of went was like wow, that's that's a pretty big topic and Let's do it like it was it was both a surprise and support Because it's it is something that as he's you know, this is the 11th time he's done a 21 convention So as it's grown and changed, I mean, it's the subtitles now what a panorama for life on earth as a man kind of thing So so it's it's grown to be more than just this singular focus to be much more of a broad focus Father's gonna play into that at least in the periphery For some of these guys that might not be now it might be later But it's it's a component and so to be able to bridge that gap and and maybe maybe what this does is bring in some Other people to talk about other things kind of tangentially related to that in future conferences I mean you're seeing that anyway like Doug's not talking about actually he's talking about all the psychological tricks He's learned because you haven't seen that video yet to see that video. It's great He's talking about all the psychological tricks that helped him through 20 plus years in the ER Right and or you know, we're definitely still covering diet and exercise because health is as a foundation You have to be the best you you can On a personal level before you can be the best you you can for those that you want to help and work with and work for To be the best you period. It's both. It's an inside and it's an outside thing So these things are still incredibly important But it's now moving away from just kind of the self-facing to turning it out into the world and seeing how Else you can be the best you Do you find that it's harder to have time to maintain Your physical routine and your wife's physical routine obviously must have less time less sleep Yeah, all the above what you find is that that kind of The minutiae that you maybe had time to worry about before stops being important You start being more flexible. You you become principled rather than regimented. So for example Though I work at a gym and I train people my days are packed So I often don't have time to train which is an irony right you're at a gym. How are you're not working out? So I keep some parallettes at home Which are these little horizontal bars that gymnasts usually normally used to for working out so I can In the afternoons, I'll grab workouts when I'm playing with my son and he thinks it's funny Like that's the best part. It's a two bird one something like dad's hilarious And so from a personal level too like my father has a bum foot So he wasn't exceptionally athletic. So it's an interesting how having having a son and being able to see some of these things like When I was a kid, I didn't expect a parent To be athletic or to be capable and now it's like I want to be that role model You know, and that's kind of cool. So it gives me an opportunity to be that role model And when I have access to all the tools that I normally have You know, I put them to use but I realized that you know Is the relatively short period of time in my life when I don't have that amount of time And I've managed to improve other things that maybe were on the periphery because They were frequency intensive like skills I took up handstands of all things right hand balancing Taking up handstands hand balancing they call handstands So I can do that again jack thinks it's hilarious. I just need room on carpet So I can work on that at home and it provides a bit of a workout. It's not as concentrated But I can get better at that even if maybe my pure strength or Absolute strength that I get from my normal routine. It's not it's just maintained Right, so you can work one attribute that fits within the confines of your life and leave the others on maintenance and come back and visit them later No more candy. You know, I haven't done it's funny because my wife is just awesome on the social media A lot of a lot of instagram a lot of that but even then there's not a lot of I mean The only time I end up posting on facebook is like when people are pinging me after conferences And they're like hey this great talk whatever like yay, but otherwise I don't have time I mean I'm working on in the business. I'm working on Components of the business in addition to training in the business So I'm a partner So there's the element of working on the business and working in the business and with that and parenthood and finding time to just Be with my wife and and go back to being husband and wife rather than mom and dad There's not a lot of time for other things. Um, but that's okay because you get better at sort of Respecting the time that you have for those things. You you you're able to to be very delineated with With your time and other people kind of fall and they understand that and respect that but you pay your full attention when you're there Which is great. Actually. So yeah candy crush is a distraction Uh, but if I want to play candy crush it gets my full attention And so if people want to see you and you know see your training methods, where would they go? Sure? So, uh, They could go to skylar tanner.com. That's sky l e r t a n n e r dot com. That's my personal blog And then there's also i've been writing a lot more at the efficient exercise blog, which is efficient exercise.com No hyphen or underscore or anything of that nature efficient exercise.com forward slash blog Most of what I write on the efficient exercise blog is like 30 000 foot view like focusing on lifestyle and some of the bigger picture And then on skylar tanner.com. It's much more kind of minutia focused Some of the stuff I learned from my graduate degree focusing on kind of the sciency stuff And if you don't want to know anything about that the big picture is an efficient exercise But so you can think about skylar tanner.com as a reference for efficient exercise.com Yeah, um, this has been merely johnson. We're here with skylar tanners has been super informative and congratulations. Thank you very much Bye now