 I was struck by something ran wrote in the letters book where she said that the relationship between wine and gal wine and and Howard Rourke was is the strongest. You know, the friendship is the strongest relationship in the book. In the fountain it in the fountain it and it's interesting because gal placates them up. And Howard does the opposite. Where do you see like how did that nexus form how did that bond form so strongly given that they came at it from such opposite points. I think it forms around. Whoops. Yeah. I missed that. Choices were made oppositely. But they're both, they're both in some sense seeking their own well being, even though wine and of course defines it wrongly, and ultimately it destroys him. And so all his actions actually not achieving his well being but he believes it is so he's motivated by that he's motivated by some sense of selfishness even though he doesn't define selfishness. He's he's a man of immense ability and who drives to get his way in a way that I think work does as well in that that kind of bonds them. They are, they have this immense confidence and you call itself esteem. And they both have an immense purpose, even though one of them has a flawed purpose and a flawed self esteem, right they both they both have it and embrace it and a driven by it. They're not, they're not doing halfway stuff they go all the way. They become fully committed. Sadly, you know, the relationship can be complete because even though it's a strong relationship because wine and can live up to work and he knows it so he's the weak link. And, and work and it's the same with that with Dominique right, but Dominique can rise up to to work and for waiting it's too late. And for her it's not partially because of the way I read views from an entity I think but but for her it's not too late she can she can still weighs up and and and reach works level so yeah I mean it's it's and Rand has a very distinct view of psychology and a very distinct view of what appeals and and when it was so non dogmatic about objectivism right and so non dogmatic about human relationships. It wasn't like, yeah, you know, so many objectives I know who if you if you think of yourself as a hard work. That's a problem to begin with but if you think of yourself as hard work, you're immediately looking for Dagny, right, you're looking immediately for Dagny, and and how to look is is loves Dominique and and I don't think I don't think 99% of objectives could handle Dominique. I don't think they would know what to do Dominique what would they, and then they would, they would poo poo wine and they would completely. Well, he sold out he second handed, you know, how can I have anything to do with the man who second handed. And there's this attitude towards, I don't know, Steve Jobs of Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, even a lot of it's like, well he's not perfect so I can't even admire him for fun ever be best friends with him. And if you think about a man and you think about the characters and how flawed they are, and how much respect she has for flawed character like gain wine and Dominique, or read and at the beginning of the novel, and how much he loves these characters and how much admiration she has them for them. And then, if you try to bring that into your life and you and you look at people in your, your white you're completely negating them because you discover some flaw in them or because they, they said something that sounds a little woke to you. Then you're not getting it you're not getting you know you're not getting in our first handed way and you're not getting what it's about to live this. And what it means to be a value or which is the essence, it's not about following the prescription of a philosophy it's about being a value it's about loving life and loving values and, and to see somebody who is the value or who might not be might not agree with you and a lot of other things, but who is a value is creating and building and making and changing the world. And to disdain that person. As so many objectives disdain CEOs who they disagree with on politics. Something very wrong, something very wrong in, in, and I think I read would reject that. It seems to me of she in the hundred the voices book I forgot the exact title, but there's, there's a person who got interviewed who was like her editor or something like that, and said, they talked about politics and this person was a died in the And said, I don't really care about your politics as long as you're going to represent the book, the way that I want the book represented. Exactly. Exactly. And think about how many people in my chat would like a leftist. I can't deal with a leftist. I can't even talk to leftist. I mean, you know, move them down. And now they're granted leftists are worse today than were back then but you know, it's not everybody. It's not everybody. So, very interesting. Yeah, absolutely. And it takes a while if I think it's going to take it takes a few generations of this philosophy for people to get it right and to get it right psychologically in terms of applying them into their lives and to the value systems, not just intellectually. It takes practice. Bro, please consider sharing our content and of course subscribe. Press that little bell button right down there on YouTube so that you get an announcement when we go live and for those of you who already subscribers and those of you who already supporters of the show. Thank you. I very much appreciate it.