 Call the meeting to order first on the agendas to prove the agenda any additions or we're good to approve as written Hey, all in favor Ellie decided she doesn't need her appointment, so we will Yeah, well the thing is we may have this meeting done before seven so You wish Right now it's worse now. It's all over but the crying So I did put some stuff on the table for you, which is just a when we get to the skate park We'll talk about it, but there's um at each of your seat placement. There's the new pack there So budget discussion wise last time we had talked about I Wanted a public comment or not. Oh, yeah, yeah about that. Yeah public comment if there's anybody that has anything Just the own out there other than that. There's anything anybody wants to bring up That's not on the agenda now would be the time with all the snow that just hit and All right, they're coming out in midnight tonight. Yep, so they'll be out tonight clean and all of I didn't notice There's four vehicles out there right now that don't look like they're going anywhere between now. Yeah, they make it Getting cleaned off and we'll get them. Yeah, that's part of the parking permit that we can couple them out there So just or they'll pack them in one of the two ones. So um, but yeah, they did So, um, yeah, so he'll they'll be out at midnight tonight All right. So last time we had Left our discussion Um Well, we had changed a few things last time we had our discussion we had what we call the The the base um Draft of the budget and then we had two additives at that point if If voters approve the additional 27,500 dollars for the library. Yep, and then um What was the one? We had to tweak additional chairs. Well, we had actually yeah showed what that would be Yeah, I changed the constable and I had to tweak as I said I was going to I tweak the insurance numbers because I had vlct passives updated bell So I tweaked the insurance a little bit and that would have affected every department some ups some down But not big and added we got a dumpster at the road department finally, so I added that 744 bucks, but So we so I removed the line for the sheriff's department on the constable And did the 20 hours a week at 28 an hour and that of course changes social security medicare Workers comp etc. So that brings you to 65 131 okay, um And I think that was really it we're still talking about warba I have an email out to steve webster. He emailed me. They're currently having their warba meeting Dave aljagetti was texting me telling me they were talking about it. And I said, well, I'm sure steve will talk to me tomorrow so, um That question is still out there about the increase from Last year to this year, but so I won't have an answer for you until I hear from steve um Webster brain cramp And uh, anyways, I did figure obviously the first part of the year the trick is warba operates on a calendar year So he came up with his numbers bellistan his 72 per capita Which was fine totally no problem And then they give you an additional six months at the higher rate, which is what we're you know We're gonna be paying in june But so I wrote him and asked him, you know, how did you like what's your per capita rate gonna be for next year? So we can look at that so for us. It's a 10 increase um So we're at the 153 so I just need he's gonna answer some questions tomorrow So their comment that was the same as ours basically that it's payroll and benefits that They're just killing them it's killing us. It's hard to find Trained, you know medics or to get them trained and then the insurance and stuff is high So that's what they're working on too So where we currently sit with the budget wise, um That the sheet that um That tree sat in there included So the the rate increase which is about just a hair over three pennies included the additional Library funds if yeah, that's just pain So if you take if you take out the library Then our budget right now is is up Uh Just under two and a half cents from last year, which remember last year ended up being level funded because the Because the grand list had rose higher than we had thought so so it still carries a two and a half and we were one and a half so four cents over three years is what the Adjustment has been I know in the past we talked about kind of a three cent kind of Consistent increase that also accounts for the extra money that we put Into the um, oh capital highway on the fund To to keep up with our matching grants that we have out there that we have to do over the next two years Revitalization Yeah, it's got rehabilitation Yeah, yep. So that you'd added 10,000. Yeah, that's me about that and I Yeah, basically like a capital roads plan. So yeah, right that's where all the all of our grants Okay, that's what that is. Yeah, and so that was the sidewalk. Yeah 10 for sidewalks plus Okay, extra 45 and that includes the uh money we're receiving from the sale of the land The sale of the landfill money. Yeah, so that is that's holding our budget down. It is. Yeah, it will for the next three years and Okay, that's why chris wanted to put it into the capital fund instead of increasing other lines because once you do that You own it whereas with the capital fund you could Get away with that. So that's not showing up on our revenue sheet that we have that front page Yeah the the The sale of the transfer station. Yeah, it is the second page on the second Oh Oh, yeah, first page. You're right proceeds of BRTS sale under local revenues on the first page Like six The 54 560 I have a different Version from that. I don't know. This is the one I emailed everybody. Did you say draft to December 15th? Yeah, 1215 Because I this is the one I emailed everybody It Did you go away as columns? I don't have did you go all the way to the right? Yeah He's right. It's in the first column. That's okay. I'm going to share with Dave now because he likes Okay Yeah, that's what I scanned was I wrote Dave Eddie's copy and then I'm like, oh, I gotta scan this everybody's getting Dave Yeah, this doesn't say Dave Eddie's Copy at the top. I don't know you all got the same email Lindley. So I don't know Oh, there's ha ha ha. It's sideways. That's what's throwing it off. Okay So so the theory was to Like we were saying we have the proceeds for the next Four more years of the transfer station, but at the same time We have about two years worth of grant matching money that we need to come up with for For the four grants that we've gotten um, so I guess in that Basically we've taken that money to use towards our grant match That won't affect us three years from now Right, it would be something that would only be for That's just If we did the same way next year it'd be like this budget and the next budget Would absorb that There's also In theory and hopefully you know more erath after a point. So we're sort of right on that stage So that's also That's like 44,000 that we're still paying. Yeah, but it depends on what the you know, if the final bridge comes in at 1.2 million, it's gonna you know, we're slow. I've been Yeah, but so in theory we have a few things that could potentially Yeah, I've said that skew it to the other thing too was I We were talking remember we kind of went back and forth about the repairs and parts and um So I had mentioned Perhaps to all of you that the international blew a head gasket. Yeah, we just got that bill Today we'll get it fixed. We'll be back by friday. So Uh, $22,000. So when we talk about unexpected repairs, it's thank god We just moved 20,000 from the ARPA money into that Fun, but there it goes. So we had a plan to use for something else, but That's what happens Absolutely. No, it's the or it's a six was one that does your route Six wheeler. Yeah, why think of little truck is the other one, but yeah, it was Okay, baby, so Yeah, so anyways, that'll be So that's you know, this is what happens So yeah Yeah, that's at clark's in burlington I know I do not No, you don't No, you don't So just so you know, so that's you know, when you're talking about this, we talk about these things. This is what happens. So Yep, we haven't even had time to oh, well to We have an idea what it is, but the guys are going to fix it themselves. They just Didn't they don't have time today tomorrow. Hopefully later in the week, but um, yes So they had a couple of escapades the pump in the cobbless david for trying The fuel pump, you know, they get fuel. They have an underground tank and the motor dies in the So you don't know what well, they think maybe that's it. We got somebody coming something bad happened So to quote morgan, he said he called me up and he said well We read next something. We got it to work many closing days to see today. He said it I but I had talked to charlie a cb oil and they have someone coming to look at it to figure it out They still didn't have power last night new So, uh, doesn't have a manual option on that pump You'd have to ask Dave if a lot of pumps have a manual option. No, that one doesn't help. So 1929 mom Yeah, it should be just the manual If we know electric Yeah Uh So we went to they went to to champlain farms to get diesel they're out So then morgan called dillon or not dillon. Excuse me fan mccollin. He's like I go ahead charge it. So they It's it's just been a lot and then um, there was a minor accident Nothing that insurance claim will fix we have a spare plow blade. So that's on Now but we made an insurance claim. So that may be like a thousand dollar deductible, but no one was injured Um, but the truck had one of its episodes. This is the truck. We're trading and it hasn't been diagnosed yet We replaced three computers and it just Died and the plow was down and it kicked paul over He said he hit a little bit ledge not hard but enough to do some damage to the plow But this is what happened sometimes you're driving along and the thing just powers down So luckily hopefully we have the new truck to replace that by February and um so It's in where we're now taking a ride with him. Yes, you would have been yeah You would have got more than you bargained for plus you aren't riding with him. You're going to a j So you've got a better truck of the new one. So it was definitely um challenging Well, it's probably one of the toughest storms. Well, oh, this is typically this would be like the toughest storm of the year Usually, I mean with how heavy and big it was I mean Well, and wait, but the storm friday is probably going to be really bad because All those all those back roads are just going to be a nice rank They are and you're not even going to be able to do anything about it because you put anything down It's not going to hold any grip. No people are just going to have to stay home. There's a lot there at friday The road is great right now. It's nice and smooth There's no rest It's been in six months Yeah, because most of the only thing you do is you just keep going around and around He just wastes. He just wastes products. I will tell you this is there is still Wet snow in the trees and once that gets ice on it We're going to have more power outages. So if you do not live If you live in vermont, you should have a secondary heat source buy a generator or make a plan now To go somewhere early thursday Yeah, well, you know what and or if they don't have a secondary heat source Yeah, or go to make arrangements to go somewhere now before the storm hits Yeah, there was so many people that I thought to this weekend like I don't know if we've just been spoiled or It was just seemed like it was the first snowstorm that they ever In vermont I've witnessed and it's like Well, this is you know, like someone had asked me Late yesterday that they haven't had power in two days and Should they what should they do about their water? I'm like, oh, you're you're a day late now You know after you have you know A day of cold. I mean you should You should bleed your lines and Want to pull general years on this. Yeah. Yeah, so it's well. I think that it's you know It's always that way with the first storm. I think people just Whatever and it we've had had some warm weather. So Well, we're thinking that three saturday was you know, eight inches or whatever and then it stopped so it was Kind of like well, yeah, okay. That's it. That's good. And then you get up sunday morning That other stuff was the same thing again really really heavy. Yeah, it was very heavy for sure Yeah, it was challenging because it was lines downs. There was routes for blocks. You couldn't plow everything Sand everything and couldn't you know People were trapped in at no fault of ours plus this is hard on equipment I mean pushing heavy wet snow is hard on equipment. Yeah, it is. Yeah And we have a new employee and he's Trialed by fire but Curtis did really well And hung right in there So I think he you know and it's tough too when you have a he's using the smaller truck And sometimes you have to plow down because you can't plow up when it's so heavy and wet, but he did he did well, so Um, I'm really happy about that I heard positive things. Um Just in general about the Plowing the sidewalks downtown. Yeah, I would say we're still not doing a great job on the Entrances for cross right crosswalks. There's I think When I walked through it at least at some point on saturday, there was one crosswalk that was cleared Yeah, and the rest were full banked up. Yeah, and I think through them I think that's part of it is that they're down two trucks Yeah, so they have the greater out and it you know, they'll deal with it all tonight and no, I know And I it's more for moving forward for future storms of remembering those I know they kind of just go through and clear the sidewalks all the way down and then but then it's coming back and clearing for the crosswalks Yeah, I'll talk to them about whoever's doing the sidewalks. Just make sure that we have the crosswalk Yeah Short straws who's having a sidewalk and that can be done with a shovel getting out of the seat And we didn't talk about that last year. So but we have a new road forming out So I'll talk to you again about and I think I heard across the board We're happy with the plowing of the sidewalks downtown. It was really just the crosswalks. Did you see sunday? It was nose cars parked on Checked it was not a single car I know they were parked at the white church. Yeah, so they made it I came through I said, look at that. I only took some snowbags But I'm going down and she's waving and then Oh, yeah, yeah, the sidewalks are so slick. They are slick. Yeah. So yeah, that was it for the budget changes not a lot of You know, they're obviously to keep in mind that whatever the rec department or not department rec committees ask is the only thing in the budget right now is still It's just the $10,000 that was in there last year. So That's also not figured in the best tax rates. So just keep that in mind I have it as a warning, but I don't have it right in the budget. Yeah, that's right everybody. So I've got as a placeholder this budget virgin has the um our proposed idea for the constable of 28 looking at the increase rate, but this is not something we've decided on this was just to view it as what it would look like budgetary Right, it seemed like just I just wanted to confirm that that was not a decision budgetary Well, you seem to have some consensus there, but um, but yeah, that's what's in here We really because you could as we said, even if we couldn't get more constable coverage We could always bring in the share for like a day a week or something, but we still needed to build more in budget That bigger bunch of it's still yeah, so that's how you got here I still need to throw the bait out there See see if we can find somebody Well, once we get consensus on this then I'll have a conversation I've had one with oscar, but I'll have another one with oscar and one but justin and see what our commitment is I know that um oscar they have someone there and they have someone else maybe going through the academy So he's looking at some freed up time, but um, then we'll see what else adjust in and ask if he can't Oscar, you know, there may be there's definitely somebody else out there. So But I think the goal is after town meeting day The budget's proved is to approach both cons I want to approach them both before and lay out What we're asking for for a commitment. Yeah And if they can't fill their commitment, then we'll look potentially of filling that role Yeah, and then we could go to print at that point like yeah, you know with a higher wage and have it in the budget Yeah, and oscar is aware of it. I haven't spoken to justin in a year. So um Well, I'll get an air to talk to him So I would like to you know, let him know before that because we still have some room in this budget So they could as you mentioned we could do more sooner if we can so is everybody okay with currently the way the budget is up just less than two and a half cents With potentially the addition of the library component, which would be another Like one and a quarter cent if everybody we don't we're not really I'm not really thinking about that because that's a town's person Choice we're not presenting a budget that high Right that they got right. We're presenting a 2.38. That's where that's where I'm at where I I'm probably We're proposing it. Well at least with this draft we're proposing a 2.38 Increase that's based on the grand list currently of you know, two one five eight million The grand list could move a little bit I think it will There's still some room for it to go up a little bit so Possibly. I mean obviously it's so tough to have a house like throwing a dart at it. So it is because the house there's Not much the grand list Oh In the budget we try to keep the budget increase under three percent or around three percent and we would Well the last The last well if you if you counted this one Then it would be a total of about four cents over three years So it's been But last year we had presented about two and a half cent increase But the grand list went up at such a fashion that it it canceled that Well pretty similar because of the yeah Yeah, I talked sense because that makes Because it's money at that point and I can figure out what that is uh at home I just want to be consistent. Yeah So that we're so I think that's what three and a half percent increase I would just say I think some about that. So yeah, but So the grand list has been up and it fluctuates because if you know, you lost a house Recently, so that obviously comes off the grand list and but as things change and we're going to start our count Why reappraisal in july so Um, so I'm like reappraisal. Is that consistent? It's going to be a what two-year process Yes, anyway So does the grand list gradually change as the reappraisal is happening? Or does it all happen at once at the end when they come up with a big number? There you go Yeah Yeah, exactly Yeah, and so and you know the good news is here is and rick can certainly correct me if i'm wrong is it's gonna it will I want to say fix correct a couple of things when you have Maybe people that maybe need more depreciation in their home because their home is older It'll straighten out bring more land schedules into balance also to say to say you Have a home and maybe and we don't know about because we don't have a zoning permit and you've gutted and redone the whole inside So you have new kitchen new whole thing. We don't know anything about that So you're paying paying taxes based on what we thought you've had. Yeah 10 years ago now When someone comes in and measures square footage and looks at things You're going to be paying a little more so people always think their taxes are going to go up But if their home has more depreciation, you know, some things are kind of straightened out Yes, of course the market recently has been kind of crazy How does it work then after year one of the reappraisal to come around to grand list time again? It's just grand less freeze during reappraisal. No, I think it would affect It doesn't freeze because it's normal like zoning permits regular stuff like we do every year Yeah, and so that would just be regular We'll call it regular change and then after that reappraisal goes out then everybody gets a new reappraisal and That's when people can come in if they choose and they can meet with the listers and the people who do the You know to have any grievance or um, so they go to the Lister and board of listers first and then if that doesn't get resolved there, then obviously they go as you know They go to the bca. Yeah, that two-year process is just an evaluation period of Yeah, of all the homes in in the township and then and then it establishes the new baseline to start from Yeah, because if you're trying to get into it, you know, I want to say 80 of the homes But I'm not even sure they Went will go, you know that high but you do certainly try to get into as many homes as possible So, yeah, and that basically is a redistribution of the tax burden. It is not a It doesn't lower the expenses of the town or increase the expenses of the town Just that your personal tax rate might go up or down depending on Yeah Depending on the list and depending on the prop your property's out Yep, exactly in relation to everybody else And there's still two people, you know We'll have the Ability to come in and talk to somebody if they want to, you know, if they get a number or something. So It's always kind of a given to you All right, so everybody else that with it for now So is there any changes you need me to make to the budget before you see it again in January No, what did I Um, you're going to sign the warning on January 23rd So so we have to have the budget by then So, I mean We must be pretty close right now if you don't want me to do anything to it. So, um, I mean, I'm so that's good That's great news Yeah, I think we're pretty close Okay And then warning wise Okay, so I sent it to rick to look at today Sorry about that rick. I meant to send it to you last week to see about I reworded the, um Number six lister. Yeah and number nine to the To elect by ballot a lister to serve the one-year bounds of a three-year term Um, and then I did the same thing on nine to elect a trustee under to serve the one-year bounds of a three-year term Oh, I said to succeed paul whose term expires in 2024 I wonder if I should have said the same thing on paint under the lister Whose term expires in It might be nice to put the year. Oh, yeah, I should I just caught that. I know I don't typically I don't think in our town we have done that before but I know like the school uses the 2025 2024 whatever the so that's also expired in 2024 Yeah A lister a balance of a yeah um I added the library because they were in agreement to that um, I Updated the number to warba but that could be changed and then paul, when did you say you're gonna have the social service appropriations? She hasn't no Oh We have a little You know in exchange about health up and stuff to resolve what that's all resolved now I gave kelly the figure. Oh, okay. So I'll get the social service numbers from kelly. Okay, perfect If you need, you know, if no, she should just let me know if you need them. Yeah, I kept copies Any big changes? No, we had uh a few that did not submit requests And we had a couple that we gave additional funds to So we're a little bit down from last year In total commitments Okay um So rick on page. Do I put the transact under 16 and then I renamed that australian about article article one So do you think that looks okay? Or do you think that looks clumsy? How's that I don't know where you want 17 Yeah, it's a little tough there I could put it after I don't know which Historically, you know, you always had Other business as the very last thing. Yeah, but I think if it's If I announced We're going to discuss the All right, because I can move it after 17 after article one. That's specifically why I called them articles So I can move it down if you want Usually if I would say non-lining business Half the people are standing and walking So that's one. Okay. I want to do that. Then I'll move it. Okay. All right to after yeah, I'll move it to after Holes should holes open. All right Okay, we'll I'll move it And the other thing I caught after I sent you the You know earlier was that I think we talked about it after last meeting To put the word at the word additional Um, uh, oh, yeah Yes, thank you appropriate up to an additional Yes, thank you So they know that that's That's in addition to what the budget already has put in. All right. Thank you It takes a village early Thank you Yeah, oh All right I noticed on the uh, Montlis website again having a Uh, a little one hour seminar on the morning. Okay January 11th Okay, until 11. Yeah, and I printed this out and went from their, you know, thing But they're doing on the 11th or I'll take all write it down and look 10 to 11 is always a no january 11 From 10 to 11 from 10 to 11 Oh, okay All right, you know, it doesn't look No, thanks. I'll I'll look at it vlc t All right, I'll make a note to look at it. So yeah, no, I just printed out that and went by there Because it was a little combination. I'm like, it's a little funky this year, right? They also have something about um, australian without so I think that's Maybe could be I get so many emails from them a day that honestly sometimes they just sit there in the queue until I Go back and reread them, but I'll look And did you get the the tune up because sometimes I haven't seen that out because you usually do that. Yeah Tuesday and February and I don't think they just said they're February because everything was up to the end of january All right So this luck would have any questions on the morning Still all good to use the school and whatnot. Yeah base with them I didn't but I didn't hand it 704 perfect time Just made it le four minutes. All right. Thank you. Um All right, thanks rick for looking at that. Yeah All right recreation committee So that was so I put this on your uh, I got this drawing from um Kyle cut right. Uh, he emailed me. I emailed them back and so on your um On your chairs there at the top is the recreation reserve account same thing. I've given you last time same thing Allie has um I left the skate park revenue alone and then the cost estimate for phase two since the square footage was going to go down to 1327 I just multiplied it by the 65 square feet left the excavation estimate of 16 5 60 alone minus land water conservation match minus the 38 30 15 of fundraising extra that they have um left them with a funds needed to construct phase two at the 13 1327 square feet is 48,984 85 and I'm attached to this is um the rec committees breakdown Of the proposal and then a nice little drawing from Shane kinsley and kyle cartwright Is on is in here too. So you can visualize the old versus the new So it's very helpful working and working with them to um P on budget That you know That we've been work with the figure I'm going to read said that you didn't get the paperwork on the land water Yep, so it's here. Yeah, that just came today. So I haven't read it. Yeah, I'm agreeing that we're signed it But it did come today. Finally Allie and I were laughing so Collin Shane is work Very hard on making sure that we could really build it next summer within the framework of the figures Collin Shane Through what they've um been talking to michael carter. He's a very good person that he he works with us and and adjusts our notes that, you know, we're unlimited resources, so I expect to see the same kind of back and forth with michael a little bit as we As we're sharpening our pencil and he's giving us feedback on how How close we are to hitting the number we can both work with This is I would say a ceiling build This is what we're hoping to build if we do a little more fundraising that this should be this should be doable We think michael can work with us to make that happen But if he can't it'll be paired down slightly just reducing the size of the features like we did last time Just to get it within our dollar window So I expect to see some back and forth which should be entirely normal For this at least with what normal last time And I call I use this higher square footage price of 65 just to you know, make it work and then um I had an estimate that I got From the same guy who excavated for you last time the 16,560. So that should still be good guy just kept it the same because really 1,400 square feet versus 1327 Yeah, I just said bank and I'll leave alone land water conservation match minus 50,000 Then minus the fundraising leaves you guys still 48,984. So basically $49,000 short So is That's the bigger version though. That's too close to the power line. No, they they if you look at their drawing changed Yes, because okay Because that's and kyle and I emailed because um Yeah, they came out Let's see. I'm fate. It looks like he came out 16 feet by 72 So because yeah, they can't cross that power line. Did you get a chance to see the flags? I took four big steps from the the red dog line Toward the skate park and except for the near corner that's rounded in the image We could have come out 20 feet from yeah, it's just that it was that one corner Yeah, and as long as we around that that near corner Then new superficial sidewalk or something like that. I think would be okay Yeah, because you can't be like I gave kyle the framework of the easement that you can't be within um 10 feet of the yeah 10 feet on each side of the center line of the installed conduits and um So and because he had emailed me So I emailed him that to let him know what your width was and Then I asked him I said, where is this sidewalk going because we can't put the sidewalk over the Condo either so I was confused because I'd never seen a layout. So he included the This is the place on the sidewalk It can wrap around the arc and still be more than 10 feet away from the um the underground Uh, or it could be on the the back side. Okay on the property boundary side All right, because I spent him the Because he also wanted the language of the land water conservation grants So I sent him because you have obviously without the 50 000 because you have to get that in there So I did send him that language due so that way he what the easement said and what the the grant said So that you're operating within there, but So I just had one question ellie. You just you said that you're working within your budget Well, yeah, what budget? Yeah, but I mean you're still 50 000 short. So So I was just curious Yeah, once I take your cost of multiply Out your skatepark bills. Yeah, well, not if we were asking for 30 000 If you're sass for 30 are you gonna fundraise 18 000 more? Yeah, we'll yeah, we'll keep working. Oh, yeah, that's just too bad because I know you guys have done a lot of fund breaks So, you know, we're asking Yeah, I didn't know if you scale it back Yeah, if that's too much and And if that's the case as we get closer to the actual groundbreaking if we don't have good visibility on On actual funds that we know are coming in We'll we'll certainly pair it down. Yeah, so it could be or you could be a third time a town meeting Well, they haven't got we haven't gotten out far Yeah, yeah, I was just curious if you had something. Yeah, so we're trying to we're trying to figure out Yeah, because we want to stay within our budget if you're saying we're over Then then again, we'll keep working and pair it down, but you know, but we still want to okay Either I have money for the improvement fund or make a case to them Did it? So our conservation Grant Plant water conservation. Then when does that have because what's the expiration date of it? I don't know. I just barely printed out the document today and I have not had a chance to read I just told Ellie when she got it that finally showed up. So I don't know yet. I I didn't even I mean typically they're like two years Honestly, this came in forever. We were very And they didn't barely send us the grant document today. Well, you know, I may be able to check if I can honestly if I can tell you Because I didn't either So read it today and Michael Parker has this on pencil then on this schedule To do it in next year 2020 And so if we can it it would be Super super wonderful That we get this project done and then we have the time and energy For the other projects, you know, we have other projects. So so so basically We just want to figure it out so that we can build it in 2023 Oh It has my number right so the the total work for this phase two in rough numbers Between 81,000 and 106,000 total depending on The the estimates the high versus the low and then the Current The current revenue that they have is right here is about 58,000 53 53 8 350 No, this is we I started with this track. This is Comes down to what she had left because you see summer emissions and summer extractions So what happens is she I did this on them Land water conservation. She had to pay some stuff back. But anyways, she has $3,830.15 plus her $50,000 land water conservation grant If you build this skate park at $65 a square foot, it's that cost plus this is the price I got from dylan mccullough Then So they're All right, here we go. I can see the grant. Let me tell you what it says Award and date is september 30th 2024 Oh, so I looked at it. I was still in my email Okay, so i'm not two years. Yeah, so we weren't well. I didn't know because September 30th, yeah, so they let us I was we didn't know what we're gonna get because it's taken two years just to get our paperwork So this is um, and then in your last packet I gave you the whole finances of the record 80 So there I can look on the website. So they're anywhere between 27,000 and 52,000 away from constructing it. They're $48,900 Obviously like the low versus the high They could be as low as 27,000 but could be as high as 52,000 Well, if you the only way this is yeah, the way it's going to change is if he doesn't charge them 65 square dollars a square foot and he charges them um 50 dollars a square foot. So if you multiply 15 bucks times, which I can do right now I'll tell you what the difference is but 16s in an email So you're not, you know, it's still a I think the point I'm getting to is The 30,000 in capital funds that they're asking for If we decide on that would be doable at the low rate low end of the scale. However If it came in at the high end of the scale, you'd still need an additional $22,000 revenue to make that work But I guess yeah, the numbers in my head. Yeah 66 350 at $50 a square And then it's not going to change this estimate of 165 60 that's going to remain the same So that leaves you 82 910 minus the 50 You're at 32 910 minus some change. So yeah That's it. Yes Okay, that's right So your options are um, you can make you can you as a select board can Make a motion and give them allocate money out of the recreation improvement fund or you can Put this as an add-on like the library And they will make their case to the voters Like the library is going to do so those are your options If you're thinking about the voters though, are they specifically asking The voters to decide if it's allocated from the capital fund or is it added to the overall Added to just like the library. Okay. So the way that number 12 reads, I think that was confusing to me because And and it may just be that I was misinterpreting it That it's you know, it's written correctly. It's just voters appropriate up to and we probably want to use an additional And that's what I have to add the word. I already have 10,000 that's in there. Yeah Okay, so that's why I have to add the word additional Go up to the recreation facility to so basically the voters would approve x amount of dollars To go to the capital fund Specifically earmarked for a space to escape our right and what we're discussing right now is as a select board are we going to Move money from like are we going to allow money to be moved from the capital fund? for this and or Include number 12 Right. So you could do some just want to make sure I know what Yeah, you could do some from you could make you could move some from the capital fund Now and then make it less that they have to go to the voters or you give them And the capital fund that was the 81 603 that you gave us last time. Yeah, okay That's what's available in the rec. Yeah On the sheet you give us last time though. It says balance 109 671 at the bottom. Yeah Yeah, is that what's available in the reserve? Why you said 80? Oh, that's that's of september. Oh, she's right. Yeah. No, so one on November 29. I was thinking of 80 So if it says 109 that's what happened 109 671 there you go. Thanks Paul 0.78 something like that There you go But some of that 109 is specific money to Yeah, yeah, it's just the skate park. Yep. The 50 000 is specifically theirs of the 109 So there's really only it is. Yeah, so there's really only like Yeah, if you read the whole spreadsheet Yeah, you would see that have their fundraising and there, you know, we kind of label all that very clearly as to who gets who's what So, yes, so the land water conservation monies For the you know, the monies into the batches in there as well as the all their fundraising money so one week The sum we spend all was the money that's here what would be left in the capital So if there's 109 in there now and you're gonna 50 of it is already theirs plus 53 so some track 54,000 Basically 55's would still be in there. Yep. And then if you gave them An additional 30 out of that then you'd be down to 25 000, yeah But we'd be adding 10 to the budget You'd be adding 10 to the budget. Yep And and I think and to obviously you know that the pool is going to be a very large fix And we don't we won't know those numbers until over the winter So we'll have a better handle on that and what we're going to do in the spring or Yeah I think I guess what I'm asking What I'm trying to figure out is so If we put the 30 000 in there However If you allow them to say if you just say they can spend 30 000 dollars from the existing capital fund, yep And it's not enough Yep Then we still have funds in the capital fund that could be used If you approved, yeah, but what they're saying is they'll scale back their project Which is what they did last time they had this, you know, they had a certain amount of money and so they scaled back their project um So they'll have a good handle on you know Concrete pricing and things like that and they'll know their first wear footage price from Mike Michael when they start and they scaled back their project last year they or last time they Just conformed to their budget And it allowed the amount of fill the amount of rebar of the concrete to be reduced enough That it played nice with the amount of money we had had to work with If we needed How many years at the rate that we've been getting money in the capital ends I got to take the fact that we Has the rate been doing 15 years 15 years 10 15 years we we appropriate 10 000 a year Now it hasn't been like that every year some years. We've appropriated 20 or 30. I think one year is 40. Yeah I think in the same thing to plead it down to 25 or whatever and something else happens That would require some of that money Yeah I mean obviously we're going to start we will be looking for any grants, you know through the pool and and and Of course we will you know grant matches and yeah absolutely. I mean we will have no choice. We're going to have to um We're going to have to and figure out what are you know What the fix is going to be and you know the town did have the opportunity to vote and they did vote in The skate park in its original format The additional funds, you know that would needed for over the 50 or 60 000 I think about the number was it was a pretty big number to launch Yeah, but they've been all that money has been gone to so are we better off allowing taxpayers to Decide if they want to put the the additional money in for phase two You mean ask them for yes 30 000. Yes Getting very very good support from the town They're they're supporting us continuously And um, they're using the park at least six months of the year. Yeah, but it's very successful kickflip workshop every summer and so It's it's um, it's something that the town So that adds another So there's a good chance on that the voters would support if you went to town meeting and but that's going to add another What's set in a half? Little bit more than the libraries Yeah, just under a set and a half. Yeah That puts us potentially Over four percent. Yeah, but that's also there. Oh, you'd be like you'd be just under five If they added this Yes, yeah I mean if they added the library too, you'd be so if you have a library in that And it puts us back for change And and you like is and if you have any growth in the grand list, which we've seen, you know It'll counteract some of that if you have so playing devil's advocate. So let's say Let's say the board decides to put it on the warning to ask The voters for 30 000 extra dollars and the voters turn it down So where does that put the recreational committee and because there is some grants that are tied to being, you know So one way to talk about has to be done by right, October 2024 Then they would have 40 they'd have so they would have 53 say 54 000. Yeah, they're 200 shots They'd have 54. So let's say the voters voted it down the extra money and so you are back to 53 thousand dollars What where would we go from there to make that work? Like what would would we I mean, it's painful because you don't want to It's be careful because you don't want to Send back grants that you win Because that can hurt you down the road right So it's tricky, you know, I mean, so I'm just trying to think You know, if it didn't go the way you wanted then how how would would there be an opportunity to build something? use the grant Plus all the red tape that comes with it And you would probably have a a year more worth of fundraise and maybe well And bar even Because from what I'm looking at Let's assume but on the low end to do what you guys want to do is 81 000 dollars, right? So if the voters turn down the extra money You got to come up with 28 000 dollars And and to be able to build it in time you kind of got to come up with 28 000 dollars in about a year's time Wouldn't right We can also build just two-thirds of that footprint instead of coming out 16 feet Okay, so that that's portion of yeah, what I'm getting at is It are there still an option to use the grant with what you have And fulfill some of the obligations that come with the grant number some of the accessibility The only thing yeah, the only obligation is right here It says that have an accessibility rate. A close skate park will be access by a concrete sidewalk And ramp meeting ADA requirements The sidewalk will be installed from the existing handicap spaces to the entrance apron of the park As part of the park construction so all they really so they have to build this piece to get the 50 000 Right and so basically but as if I understand this correctly Shane that piece is also scalable Yes, yeah, it's it's mine I think there's more of the You know in mud room entryway people can stomp off their feet and then they're not damaging the sealant On on the rest of the park. That was that was something Mike the parker was adamant about, you know If we had the coin He'd recommend a full skirt of Sidewalk all the way around it so people can can get the dirt off their shoes before stepping onto the the good stuff There's also nothing saying that If I'm playing a persistent area with lovers turned down the appropriation They could come back and we can still choose to Use some of the kind of improvement money towards this and assuming they do fundraise right like there can be some sort of You could meeting in the middle. It's not like that They scaled back and they came back and said we're all okay about 20 All right, okay coming back again I mean, so you're you're saying we're like emitting from the floor No, no, I'm saying if the voters say no, you know, I'm good Telling me that Come back no scaled down version They've come back to the select board again request that So my question would be if you're playing out for this scenario and the in the towns folks Don't do it. Do you as a select board? Then say so basically your constituents just said no and then you're going to say yes later Well, we've seen just they're saying no It's a different pool of money it's small trees, I think I think the difference to me is We're talking about additional money onto the budget versus the money that already exists in a capital and and that is You're playing with different elements and so it's a little unfair to compare them and say well The voters don't want this. It's not that the voters don't want the skate park. Yeah, they don't want the additional money on the budget So Right, what's right feedback is from towny. If that even happens that you know, they have always been supportive in the past You know my And it could go either way they could ask for 30 and somebody could amend it up to the 48 they need and somebody could amend it down to 20 or 15, you know Yeah You've also got the library question to be there too. So people don't see those two. No, I guess most Yeah, I mean it says it says to me that if this goes to the voters doing a presentation that really outlines Here's what we're asking for but actually here's what we're looking at so that people really understand that difference I mean you're drawing great when I saw it, you know, thank you for that chain and and kyle because When I was like, I need visual aids, you know So when I saw it, okay this it looks cool And it makes sense because I was trying to figure, you know, the space between there and the power line and so the way that you Came up with us. So but you know Ellie's brought with this. She knows how to do that. You can obviously you'll have booth up for town meeting and you can also Yeah, and he had state borders and town meetings. Oh, yeah, absolutely. And they have, you know, Mr. Hubbell would love it if they're just skating up and down the the check floor and be perfect Yeah, with lots of paper So it's good and you can certainly and they can, you know, somebody got on facebook and all that stuff too. So If that's what you decide, so I mean, I know I'm leaning more towards Putting in on the morning to ask the town's people with the extra funds, but I guess the reason why I'm thinking that is Because right now we're going to have well, big skateboard park funding out of the Capital fund we have and you include the 10,000 that we're going to put in here in this budget, Susan It puts us at like $59,000 that would be in that fund totally And if we do end up having to do something at the pool here in a year or two Typically if we do get a grant it'll ask for some sort of matching funds So we want to say the pool is a $150,000 plus a dollar adventure, you know, and we get a grant for You know 75 to 100,000 we have to come up with 75 to 100,000 At least you have somebody in that fund that you have towards matching funds This year Do we plan on using the monies that are there in the capital fund? And if when we know what we're going to need for the pool We then go to the town and say here's a new project that we need to tend to and Do we ask it at that point? I mean that's another We keep asking and asking and asking some you know, come on pretty soon. We're gonna say, you know I don't think that That wouldn't work for me as a since great because you can only ask me to reach into pockets so many times for that You know project especially the size of these projects Okay, I want we're not I know it's a capital fund, but that's cane The majority of that money already came from the taxpayers. Oh, sure. Absolutely He's already put that money I'm not saying it the way I want to but I think we should be careful careful about spending that that fund down Beyond to the point to fund this completely. I don't think we can do that We I don't think we spend the fund down that far I think going going to the taxpayer for whatever that Some you've got there on number 12 Somewhere I don't have a sum because I really don't yeah, I'm saying 2030. Yeah, whatever. Yeah, I think and Let the taxpayers on that day Know what they're doing just for the skates and then they can they're spending their own money, right? I mean you could do that and then You know, let's say they did vote it down Then we could come back here and figure out in the time frame. What is the minimum amount that we can build? And take advantage of the grant that we have and maybe at that point maybe it can make it up Maybe you ask for $10,000 to be moved from one side to the other which might be more doable You know, yeah, just a better number to deal with out of the capital fund But I get what gene's saying to you eventually You're gonna have to ask At one time or another, right? We're going to ask for the pool anyway. Oh, sure. That's the case It's gonna be a big But it's going to be a big one and it could be a five-year note. I mean, we just don't know yet But that's that's my point If we're gonna have to ask for the pool anyway But I think that the challenge was Yeah, it's a it's a when we put the when we put the The capital fund together for the for the recreational facility. Let's go right It came with a plan, right? So I think in a lot of people's minds is, you know, we're going to a bcd you know And we haven't gotten through the whole alphabet yet And we're going back and we're going back to add on to one that That was already done. So I think in a lot of people's minds. It was You know, there was going to be You know trails and skate park pull-up grades Uh tennis court or yep, yeah tennis courts and stuff like that. So I think You know But again, that was how many years ago. Did we take that? What is that? What's the date on that thing here? It was 2013 And it was the pool house first the pool. Yep the first But we did some of that with the FEMA funds. We got lucky and we were able to do some of that with the FEMA funds Yep, the skate park was next So now we're gonna we want to finish that And we didn't anticipate that we'd have to go back to the pool because we did the pool stuff first Right now. I don't think you're right. I think you gotta separate the pool house from the pool. Yeah. Yeah, they're not the same Well, that's true. But we had to have New pumps and new whatever. Yeah, I was all cool too. Yeah. Yeah was when you redid the whole But new new pumps new new whatever we've been, you know Um through FEMA. So that was right. That's sir. We got lucky. That's a lot of the pool. Yeah Not not only just the pumps, but we spent a lot of money For the pool but not exactly how the pool pool itself would not have Well with uh the pumps. Yeah in the building right and the building and The coding we had to do all the building that was 16,000. They have the gel. So correct. So we've been Putting all our money into the pool coding pumps I don't know how much of that was taxpayer. Um, whatever not a lot of a lot of a lot I don't want to use percentages, but 90 percent of what went into the pool house and pumps and stuff were paid to FEMA Project and we got we got extremely lucky on that. Yeah Yeah, that was the only thing that went right You know during during I mean that was the only thing that went right is that helped But but the other thing too is the capital fund was It was put in place just like all the other funds Instead of going to the taxpayers and saying we need a hundred thousand dollars We could put a little bit over time to build the plan but also maintain the big stuff when it goes, right? So all of a sudden you get a regal coat the pool that you don't have in the Budget you have that money in your capital fund. So I mean, I think just if you put it on the warning asking for that amount of money, I think You get new accurate information on The voters. I mean, well, I want to say 2014, but somewhere around there is when we had the first go around with the Yeah, we that's when they had gone to In front of the voters with the addition for the skate park before and it was ushered in pretty easily. So You know this could They had asked for additional um revenues for the skate park Yeah Because I was here for that and I wasn't here for 20 years Yeah, I was 14. I'm pretty sure it was that year So guess I'm going to make a motion Well, I don't think we need to make any motions Please tell me what you're putting on the plan because I didn't get here on June 14 So so what does the board at this point want to do do we Do we want to put it on the warning? Asking for additional funds or do we want to grant the request which is to move? At a minimum $30,000 earmark. Yeah, you're $30,000. I would Lean towards putting it on the warning but not Not taking it off of our radar to come back and have this discussion based on What happens at time meeting, you know Come back to the capital fund should we need and then if so, what would that We talk about their $30,000. Is that does that seem to be the the number that Because I see it 30 and then it was a 35 on the next page. What did you we're wondering if you see both of those numbers though the library and and the pool The library at 27 Excuse me 27 5 and then you see the pool at 30 If we might be better off going a little bit less on the pool So it's not as much of a sticker on the skate park Um, yeah a skate park. I'm sorry Well, just remember too what we have to talk about at town meeting day is That additional revenue to the library Is not only an increase for this year But it would be something that we would be putting in our budget going forward So it wouldn't be necessarily a one time hit That would be just kind of saying this is what we need to at least have the library Funded at a minimum and it would have to be sustained that way So based on today's numbers What do you need 30 That's what you're asking for but And with today's numbers that's doable So we would work with the the contractors and and work together Now remember somebody at town meeting day could say You know it could get both down at 30 and someone could amend it for That heat and it can be re-voted, you know, yeah, that's the benefits of the pluribus Yes, that's what they're Well, that was what their request was if you look at the one Yeah, I think I would instead of comparing it with the library I would rather look at this from like what what are the needs and what's the goal Like so what I'm looking at is if you ask for 30 We're still at a deficit of 18 to 19,000 Which I know you can scale down the build, right? So that's an option but From your perspective is is 30,000 enough that if you let's say no fundraising came through you got zero extra from that Could you scale back that 18,000 and make it go or you know, like what's the realistic number that you need to be asking for At this point to make this go Assuming no additional funds No additional fundraiser. Yeah I feel like you can make it work with the third Um, I have someone who's volunteered to potentially do some work, which would be a big shock. That would be the 16,000 Yeah, yeah, that'd be 16. We were that's a nice volunteer. It is and it's you know It's a that's a volunteer. That's Far in the future six months away Right, so I don't want to say that's a certain totally But if that follow through we could absolutely build with the third even if you got a deal on someone donated some Materials or you know, right? That's a few brands. I think I just rather look at it realistically for like What's the ask you need? You know, and maybe that's what's the minimum ask you need versus what's the ideal ask you need We'd love to see the the 48,000 Come through but that's maybe not realistic to ask the taxpayers is is 30,000 Realistic should it be 35? I don't know. Yeah, you said Kyle gave you two pieces of paper. Yeah, one said 30 Boss Yeah, right Oh, okay, I wasn't sure if he said that they were the size we had 16 as I got the actual quote for you So it sounds like you want to go on the morning for 30 000 dollars Shane saying yeah, it's okay. You're all saying and I think we'll just be up to you To somebody from the committee to be able to talk through that discussion on what that 30 000 like Um Lenly was getting towards is what does that actually Get you so you have a plan so does that that gets you the exact plan a little better or a little worse um, I think would be you know Little thinking about Uh possible questions. So you have the answers right then I don't gotta go look I yep. This is what we're going to if we get this if we get 35, this is what we're going to We only get 25. We're going to that Oh, that's good to have some drawings Someone's gonna talk podium. I normally do all the talking but I I don't have I don't have enough knowledge of this one to want to Uh Yeah, but if you get Shane or Kyle to do it But I'm just saying any information like David say any information that somebody make question You won't be able to do it on a piece of paper because you're going to be in an open setting. You'll have to Talk so yeah Yeah, absolutely Sure. Yeah And now if I don't we'll do it again. So does that seem to be the consensus is to put on the warning Additional funds of $30,000 that would be your merit for the Skateboard yeah says the word the wording says to complete phase two of the skate park So you'll be able to complete phase two of the skate park. Okay. I just want to make sure I Wait for you Because we probably the number one question that's going to be asked is How much even though it's in the packet how much is in the fund now? How much should be fundraised right those are going to be what's the cost? That's going to be a lot of the big questions that are going to come at you. So now it'll be in the town report Yeah, but still be asked, you know, excuse me. A lot of people bring their town report, but they have no Yes, that's a good point. Yeah, some questions that are answered in the book. That's a good point They don't that's true. That's a good point Well, we often will have Two budget informational nights and usually we go through the morning too. So yeah If there are questions, maybe they'll get out of the way almost next to yeah And one one of the reasons I think what I would encourage me to keep on that agenda is This is what it would cost us to do everything What this is what it would cost us to do if all that could do it The way we had originally thought it would be However, we are only asking for we're only asking for X number of dollars because somebody may move to give you more and you've seen it happen. I like that Or someone should be balancing their the numbers and say I don't really want to do it Either way It's it's how much you're putting before the voters how much are we going to scale back? Yeah, and just remember this is You know because one of the big things we do have to talk about coming days The potentials that go to australian about right and right and these are some of the unique Benefits of god of a florida is things can be talked through And amended as we've seen many many many many times before so You know those are some of the uniqueness that we have of this town is because if you just threw it on a australian ballot You don't really get to speak to it, right? It's a 30 000 and people are going to go to the polls and say, I really can't afford that, you know But in an open forum With some conversation Sometimes the people that only come to the town Are not young that one True This part of the meeting is No, there's only the only the Right All right About the max number to get the best thing we could get Um, originally we were trying to build a 5 000 square foot skate park This puts us phase two if we can to build all we want puts us at 26 k Uh, sorry 2600 square feet. So it's still just a little over half of our yeah It's all here to simply say like In response to those who just like to put like money The fact is we're getting half of what we had originally So that's I just think that needs to be said out loud I don't know if I'll find it Yeah So we're stealing gas anyway I Yeah Something Notes is just going on in the morning so once you guys sign up for the warning On the warning That's right Thank you, thank you very much never get paid. You know take care So I do have a couple of things so I can update you on Town managers report So I told you about I didn't write one for this because we just met last week But just to let you know us we talked about the international to have the have that work done and Um, also to let you know that the equity Inclusion committee grant for ten thousand dollars was approved. So I was able to oh one's clapping I and I was able to was why emailed. Oh and the other day and told them to spread the work. Um So I haven't seen the grant agreement yet. It's probably out there. I just have to read about it So I haven't had a chance with the storm. Um, so then just to update you a little bit about the storm so Obviously, we're going to leave the hall open again tonight because there are still some residents without Um, you know possibly without shelter We did have a couple people come in today to charge electronic devices and things and I'm saying it's like Bring your own blankets because we don't have cots here We did. Um, I did have Kelly get a hold of john Hubble and tell him that whoever is plowing the school needs to You know access to the stop box, you know to let us get access to the box He said that they hadn't put it out to bid yet. So a parent volunteer has been plowing them Yeah, they they're still backwards. So I'm I don't know what's happening. They have it on our thing for tomorrow night to approve the winter maintenance on my fall again Tomorrow night, we don't even have it on there. Do you even talk about the warnings still so like Look at Dave. He's like The next meeting won't be until The next meeting won't be until january 17th when we start to talk about talking about the lock box There's the yeah So it's open now. Um And so that so john um did go out apparently he got open as I said, I'll send somebody but No, you're talking about the storage the storage. Yeah. Oh that's the box you're talking about. Yeah, because they were Oh, okay. It was being plowed him. Oh, yes I'm like, uh, yeah, so I had Kelly call and tell him Well, the other thing we could do is post a big sign on their emergency because nobody you don't know that it's Anything to do with the emergency shelter Can I sign on there to be like do not block or yeah People were parked in front of it today. So I went over and it was locked with snow and two cars But I'm like, all right. There's a side entrance there. Yeah, I'll make a note our signage I'll I'll bring it up tomorrow at the meeting anyways. Plus. I'll bring up the um um the just When you do that and I did get an email back from andra When you do that though, just don't if you permanently attach it to the door then Well, we just have to paint around it. Yeah They're going to be If you've been over there, there's like Two or three other connex boxes that are on the corner there. Those are going to be going buh-bye. Yeah So they may just strategically move yours into a better location there Can can we can we have one of those? Our connex boxes Yeah, because they talked about They purchased the connex boxes through David I don't know. I want to say it through some sort of um covid funds or something But now I have no use for them. So I did actually I did um It wasn't at the school meeting but it was through my um We're upgrading the furnace and heating and all that in that building in here So during that I had asked what are you going to do with these and I think they were they were going to go see if they could sell them and I was like, well ours doesn't We need ours has rats in it. So yeah It's rotting or can can you donate it or yeah, so yeah, they they got a bunch of those They're like four of them that they bought We would like to pass and all that stuff So yeah, so I had told you that obviously you knew that the road crew was down two trucks They've got the grader out. They put the wing on it today. Um So they're going to do the sidewalk or sidewalks. They're going to clean downtown tonight. Um, they have Like I said, we have a new employee. He was you know, a trial by fire But uh, Curtis was doing you know, doing a good job learning the route. Richard helped them out He was doing sidewalks on the sidewalk file. Um So, um You know, it was just and some of the roads were the fact that if there were trees down In power lines and they there was a couple places where they couldn't open the full Full part of the road or some of the road but today they should have had everything open And of course they were waiting for a gmp to backtrack some of it. So, um You know, overall People we didn't I didn't get any Complaints about the roads. I actually have only received, you know Compliments really which is frankly not So as far as the storm that's coming friday I know I know we have as the town has been doing a Good job of getting information out there and I know what we have limited capabilities But if we haven't already can we start blasting that information about tomorrow, you know And I would specifically target like, you know, if you live on a dirt road that is packed with You know snow right now, it's going to be icy like like there's literally nothing that we can do about those roads When it's raining I mean, you can spread sand on them, but it doesn't say that it's gone. So it washes off So just maybe just getting people thinking about friday might be a stay at home day You know, we did that for I did that to saturday before this last one for two days We pushed on front porch forum and facebook and Still had people cop with their pants down. But um, yes, if you live out of the village, you know, secondary He is but I would specifically target like if you live on the back roads Like yeah, I mean the main roads aren't going to be pretty either. I mean, it's they're going to be No, but at least they're paved and salt will chew it But yeah, if it's raining, it's going to be it's going to be really it's just going to be ice back out there And it's going to be tough if they are just getting their power back Tomorrow Then possibly be out again. So I heard it was supposed to be last time I heard was supposed to be 40 during the day I'm gonna come in I'd heard 40 but gonna come in as rain The snow sounds like it's gonna say south of us and then it's gonna get colder overnight So it's gonna flash all good. All ice over and then snow So it's gonna be now friday night So did anybody have any questions comments concerns about No issues that you heard on that All right And select board meeting minutes from the 12 Long time ago Yearly last year, but no, yeah, right, right I think most of the accepted is written second Hey Ellen Savor Nice have it then other Communications we had the recreational committee was on there the energy committee had a spot in there Think I'll do one too. So our next select board meeting will be january 9 This will be the 9th and the 23rd 9th the 23rd And at 6 30 of course on Great Any other business would come before the board Oh, nice had a good time. Oh good. Thank you for doing that I know He said two hours was his limit. So we got half an hour half an hour to go Dave's like you've had a busy day motion to adjourn Second. Okay. All right. Have a good night everybody