 Korean only it's a secret only the people who get the full show so what about those churros? Hey, how about them churros? They sure are food Churros are just very bad. Yeah churros are barely food They're more like treats, which I understand qualify as food, but It's like and I know I'm gonna upset everybody with this one, too But it's the way I feel about the KitKat. It's just not a good candy bar. It's what it's just fluff What I know I stand by my feelings. I'm so glad there are other things I like about you You know the final straw I know other things about you than just that one fact I have to admit I'm a little bit shocked and disappointed. Yeah, I'm she's appointed Won't be bringing her any special sake flavored KitKats from Japan Right that is so clever that marketing thing. Yeah, it really is It's so for those who don't know in Japan you have this tradition anytime you go on a trip be it for work or Leisure you bring back Komiage, which is basically just something a little present for your Co-workers and mostly your co-workers. Maybe your family and it has to be something from the region Ideally and KitKat has made one different flavored KitKat thing per District or region in Japan is like there's 50 or so and They're all mostly disgusting But it's super clever because it's very funny and everyone brings them for me Strawberry ones. I like the melon ones actually. I like the melon Chewy candies the ones that are like there's the Shoot what are those called? Choo-choo. They look like little hush bucks. Hi chew. No, no, not hi. Choose. These are not hi They look like you know those Halloween candies are like kind of looked like a hockey puck with the little sugar crystals on it or whatever Okay, so like that without the sugar crystals on Are you all ready to hear? Hold on hold on a second. Do you guys still hear me? Yes? We don't see you though. Oh That's weird logic just took over hold on a second. Oh, yeah. We hear you just fine. All right Well, don't you hate it? Don't you hate it when that happens on the internet when logic takes over? I mean, he's got a fresh beat. Oh I meant like the reasoning Okay, all right, so we'll be we'll be holding we'll be in a holding pattern We're waiting for clearance for a takeoff from the tower ladies and gentlemen. We apologize for the delay As soon as we are cleared for takeoff We'll let you know and get your regular daily tech news show underway. We apologize for this inconvenience We know you have a choice when listening to tech news and we thank you for choosing daily tech news show Keep it going. Geez. Come on Tom keep your seatbelts fastened Please remember to keep your Okay, maybe I can Entertain people. Can I can I find this thing of people on video? People are video people on the video of the internet look at this. Are you noticing something changing? Wall is melting. Oh my god. Look at that. You've got you lights or something like it. It is you lights nice And I can make Myself very blue as well or very Are you okay? Well, oh you're now you're flush. You look great This is amazing. Yeah, all right, which looks better. Oh, this looks weird, right? Yeah, no you look blue there Okay, that looks pretty good. There we go. What do you think Roger? All right? Good. Yeah, all right. He you. Oh wait. What happened suddenly beat? It's just auto-changing No, I'm playing with it now. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, there you go I knocked the logitech out of the USB-C There you go. Okay, okay three two Do you enjoy hearing the tech news delivered by smart informed people me too learn more about how you can support this show at Daily tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Tuesday, June 19th, happy Juneteenth 2018 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and from studio feline I'm sir Lane and from extremely Tired and underslept Patrick Beza. I'm Patrick Beza The baby didn't sleep well last night No You know a few months in how does never sleeping feel? Usually yes, but sometimes there's a particularly bad night and then you feel like you haven't slept it's terrible Man who knows that pain all too well producer Roger Chang. Yes. It is It's something you adjust to Let's start with a few tech things you should know On Monday the US Office of Government Ethics or the OGE said anybody working for the executive branch of the US government should disclose their Cryptocurrency holdings the OGE says cryptocurrency is property held for investment or the production of income instead of real currency or legal tender And quote may create a conflict of interest for employees who own it Interesting You know what's cool podcasts. I hear they're pretty big Google launched a standalone podcast app for Android cold Google podcasts which will use Google's algorithms to drive people to shows They might like based on their listening habits Google discontinued Google listen another podcast app back in 2012, but I guess podcasts are back. Yay. They're back again Hooray Sydney Australia biohacker meow Ludo disco gamma meow meow That is his name was convicted for fair evasion because he embedded the RFID chip from his opal transit car Into his hand he appealed and a district court judge ruled in his favor on Monday Thanks to Chris for the tip off on this So I'm just gonna dig the RFID chip out of my opal card for the next time I go to Australia Just stick it right in there in my hand better look next time disco gamma meow meow really good name though, but you know No, but but he won Okay That's fine. Yeah, there was some cheering that was supposed to let's do it again. Let's do it again Tom I just don't want him to get an infection. Anyway, the federal court of Australia says that Apple must pay at nine million Australian dollars for Refunds to users who received that error 53 which bricked iPhones and iPads that got repairs from third-party sellers Instead of through Apple itself Apple argue that error 53 was security measure to protect things like fingerprint sensors from exploits The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission conducted an undercover operation in June 2017 where Apple employees said Apple wasn't responsible for fixing those phones repaired by an unauthorized third-party Apple now admits that was wrong All right, let's talk a little bit more about what it's gonna be like in your hotel soon Well, Amazon introduced an invite-only hospitality version of its voice assistant designed for places like hotels and vacation rental spaces Guests can order room service request housekeeping or adjust room control like lights and temperature using an echo inside their rooms Amazon says hotels are not given access to voice recordings of interactions and Can't review the echoes responses and the requests are deleted from Amazon servers daily Amazon also says that soon quote-unquote Users will be able to temporarily link their own Amazon account with echoes so they can play their own music and There and other personal features Marriott is Amazon's launch partner on the new platform and will integrate it at Marriott Weston set Regist sorry, I don't Oh, it's St. Regis of course and a lot of locations. I Gotta say the privacy issues aside and of course there are potential privacy issues. This is great Particularly if you're you know because it's we're all used to sort of like oh look You can charge your iPhone, but now that chargers out of date whatever But if there's an echo or another kind of speaker inside my hotel room And I can link it to some music service that I like where I don't have to play it out of the speakers in my laptop or something That's great Yeah, it's it's pretty cool. What's really interesting to me is that you you have a device that can Maybe do those things with you. It's your smartphone. I understand it's not exactly the same thing but it's kind of interesting that we're going from a Personal device with which you do your computing to a ubiquitous Kind of ambient. I think it's ambient computing the official term And it's it's getting really everywhere Well, the two things right the hotel doesn't know which smartphone platform you're on And they want to maintain a platform that ties it into the you know, the room room cleaning and then the room service and all of that So having it installed in the room makes sense in that of course. Yeah It's probably the only time I use a Regular old phone is in a hotel being like hi, can I get breakfast? So as long as yeah, as long as the echo is understanding you and they're understanding the echo correctly It's like that just takes out a whole step and they're they're addressing the privacy issue right out of the gate saying look If you don't trust Amazon, then you'll have a problem with this But Amazon's gonna manage all the data only aggregate data at all would be shared with the hotel just based on usage They won't have any of your personal data They'll delete your requests every day and they will Automatically log you off once you check out question is if any of that stuff doesn't happen, then that's a problem Tesla CEO Elon Musk, perhaps you've heard of him sent an email to all employees on Monday that suggested There was a link from a factory fire recently to sabotage by an employee This follows an email that Musk sent on Sunday to all employees alleging an employee had Conducted quote quite extensive and damaging sabotage to the company's operations Including changing code to an internal product and exporting data to outsiders Tesla is currently working to meet its goal of 5,000 Model 3s per week by the end of June Obviously, that's been a challenge last week the company laid off 9% of its workforce Yeah, it's this is a weird one, isn't it? I read the memo and it's very much in the voice of Elon Musk of like hey guys, you know This isn't great, but apparently people don't want us to win oil companies and stuff On the other hand, I don't just believe him so I I think the only reason this is getting as much attention as it is is because a it's Elon Musk and be the model 3 production Problems if if sabotage is happening that could really undermine the Model 3 production And if Model 3 production doesn't hit the targets Elon Musk has promised stockholders are going to be very upset How much of it is being? Weaponized by Elon Elon Musk to take the attention off the layoffs and maybe the Issues with production of the Model 3. I mean, I'm sure it actually happened It's an interesting thought but it feels like it emphasizes the Model 3 production problems not yeah, but it's not his fault Yeah, but investors don't care. They're like look you can't keep your employees from sabotaging you We're not gonna be any happier than than if you you know if you didn't hit the targets for some other way Yeah, I know the article I read from CNBC who had gotten the email from some employees the employee or employees involved in Either of these incidents were not named there might be that name might be public to some people But yeah, I agree with you Patrick There's a little bit of me that's like if you just say that somebody started a factory fire Then it's easier for you to say we're trying really hard like our employees are going crazy Or maybe they're employed by a competitor and this is all some big Conspiracy it creates a little bit of the ah, we it puts them in the you know Challenger seat again. They're like, ah, they don't want us to win. They're fighting us. I don't know if that's gonna work I I get what you guys are saying. I just I just I broke IBM held two debates Monday between professional debaters and an IBM computer program called the IBM debater Part of project debater a lot of using of the word debater They followed standard debate rules meaning no awareness of the debate topic ahead of time for either the computer or the people no pre-canned Responses each side gave a four-minute introductory speech a four-minute rebuttal to the others arguments and a two-minute closing statement So for the computer it had to listen to the opening statement and then compose a rebuttal based on what was said topics were telemedicine and subsidizing space exploration and the verges Dieter Bone Talked to the VP and lab director for IBM research at Almond and Jeff Welleser and discovered that project debater will argue against a point Directly if it feels confident its argument is right But if it's less confident It will instead make an argument that thinks it's convincing that it thinks is convincing even if it doesn't address the point Oh like a real human exactly IBM system was designed to advance natural language understanding so listening to the debate and parsing information in a decision-making contest Context so it could be used in in lots of places where you need help making a decision Could be used in identifying Frauds and scams and fake news and things like that It is super interesting Well, first of all, even if it doesn't work super well the fact that it's kind of being considered as a project that is Acceptably coherent is Mind-blowing already for someone who you know grew up in a world where we didn't have machine learning and functioning a eyes or simile AI's The video though, I mean they're not releasing I think I haven't found it any footage of the debates Which I would not of these two they have some short video of a previous one that they did I didn't house It's super short. Basically, you don't have a full argument of the Computer which I'm guessing means that it's not fully baked yet It was really interesting at some point the rebuttal was about the fact that the other person was speaking really fast So that's kind of unexpected, but we don't know how much of it is kind of canned or prepared None of it is supposed to be canned that not can't but you know, it's like there are a certain number of scenarios Like if you don't know what to say then see if That might violate the rules though of the no pre-canned responses, I don't know Yeah, but I don't think the AI figured out. Hey, that person is speaking really fast So I should say that like it's one of the parameters Well, we don't know but there isn't a lot of we can't see the full debate and I'm guessing that means it's not quite satisfactory yet It's still very or they just haven't put posted it online yet because it was yesterday That that could be just as possible too, you know, there there's some super Technological solutions on the internet that allow you to post video live as it's being recorded. Yeah, they did not live-stream it That's true On to your story Patrick, right? I was waiting for the Introduction Xiaomi has decided to delay its mainland China IPO after until after its Hong Kong Hong Kong IPO as a consequence it has lowered its valuation to between US dollars $55 billion and 70 billion US dollars the delay appears to be caused by a dispute between Xiaomi and Chinese regulators over the value of China depository receipts So this you know, China has been working hard to try to get companies to issue their stock in China more often This is not a good situation for them in that respect But it also is not good for Xiaomi because it had said 70 billion would be its floor previously and now It's had to revise that That said Patrick you're the first person I know of our circle here who has been using an actual Xiaomi phone Yeah, I got the Xiaomi me how's it called me a one And it's a pretty cheap phone. It's under 200 euros here in Europe Xiaomi just launched in France a couple of weeks ago or maybe a month ago And it's under 200 euros. You can even find it for 150 And honestly, I am kind of amazed by the quality of this phone It's you think less than 200. It's probably 200 bucks in the US less than two hundreds That's got to be a pretty crappy experience. Of course the the Camera is not top-notch. The screen is not super OLED or anything like that, but the screen is good. The camera is decent. It has a Fingerprint reader It's pretty it's not super fast, but it runs every app. I've thrown at it pretty well Honestly, I would never ever have guessed that for this price. You could get a phone that good that quality. I'm Completely amazed by this and now you understand the Xiaomi success. I guess I think that's been the experience people like oh, I only have this much money I guess I'll get this one. Wait a minute. This is almost as good as the much more expensive phones Yeah, well, I would expect I would expect that kind of experience from a film That's at least two maybe three times that price I'm glad you're amazed Patrick because I have another amazing story for you Scientists publish a paper in Nature Biomedical Engineering describing a trial at Oxford's John Radcliffe Hospital of robotic assisted eye surgery Dutch firms a robot named precise kind of like eyes Yes, but precise. I don't know conducted a procedure to remove a membrane from the back of an eye The robot surgery took four minutes and 55 seconds now That's compared to the one minute and 20 seconds that a human can conduct However, the robot had a quote equal or better Efficacy also not really very far behind next step is to use the robot for precise and minimally traumatic delivery of gene Therapy to the retina sometime in 2019 Yeah, so I think if I'm reading this Oxford release, right the scientists are saying This was the first step in proving that precise Can work they took 12 people who needed this eye surgery and They randomly assigned six of them to a manual procedure and six of them to the robotic procedure and there was Essentially no difference one did take a little longer Than the other like you said But what they want to do is prove that that's okay so that they can then go on to these more complicated surgeries Where I think they expect there to be more benefit in using the robotic surgery assistance Then then not right and clearly well the idea is that there's more Disparity and precision to the point where robots are just better at this and you hear this and lots of I mean the eye Surgery stuff is just mind-blowing to me, but MRIs reading MRIs It's like we're starting to get to a point where more and more doctors are saying you know, you know We could also like do other things the robots are actually helping a lot and as you mentioned It's not like autonomous robot. It doesn't go in and do the surgery by itself It's basically an arm that is controlled by the doctor who does movements a little bit wider That are reduced by the robot with the needle inside the eye. This is kind of grossing the output But yeah, yeah, it's a little more precise so that the doctor says go here And then the robot does it precisely where it's supposed to exactly and clearly the the big You know a piece of this news that is to be discussed is the name But sadly we have run out of time, but precisely very clever. We are precisely out of time Sorry, you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines at a daily tech headlines.com So we mentioned at the end of the yesterday's show because we had a Canadian listener wrote in very excited about YouTube premium That Patrick Bay shot seemed to be very excited about YouTube premium YouTube premium is the new name for YouTube red Which gives you the original programming from YouTube It gives you ad-free experience on YouTube and it gives you YouTube music The big part of this launch is of course YouTube music Which now has a free version with ads in the YouTube music app YouTube music premium Which is if you're a new the same price as YouTube bread But only gives you the music features and then YouTube premium without the word music will cost you a couple dollars more Unless you're already a YouTube bread subscriber, which you could only be if you're in the United States. Anyway I think maybe the fact that we've had YouTube red for a while and for us. It was just sort of a price increase Even though YouTube red subscribers are grandfathered in without having to pay the increased price We weren't as excited as you were Patrick. What what got you so excited about this? Well, I mean There's a number of things first of all the possibility of actually paying to get rid of ads on YouTube is very enticing to me and I think many people In outside the US I use YouTube a lot and ads have become I get to minimum of one ad per video Sometimes it the video interrupts as well because I watch long form very often So the idea that I can get rid of them. I don't really want to use ad blockers for personal philosophical reasons and and this is Kind of not life-saving, but it's really exciting the other thing is that YouTube music used to be kind of a Weird idea because the way we thought about it first of all there were already competing music services on Google and and YouTube was used for music, but how would you do it with? video and I mean it was just a strange concept But this new service isn't just you know YouTube red was kind of pricey if it was just to get rid of ads But if you throw in music subscription service, which is pretty decent and the way they've sold the issue is Giving you an app that is separate and that works just like any other music streaming app include but also includes video It means that the YouTube premium part of that Subscription if you are willing to go with their music service is only a couple of couple of bucks So all in all it becomes a package that is a little bit difficult to say no to I think I Definitely explains the difference because YouTube red which was us only gave you all those things You just said you like it gave you YouTube music. It gave you Google Play music It gave you ad free it gave you YouTube red originals So that was $10 a month or if you are already a Google Play music subscriber It just you got it because you were a Google Play music subscriber So where we're sitting is now there's this thing that's $10 a month. That's only the music part of that And they're going to get rid of Google Play music eventually and just roll it into YouTube music So it almost feels like they're taking something away and the old YouTube premium The old YouTube red is now called YouTube premium and it's $12 a month in the US But it does all those things you're talking about background listening for video No ads on any video the YouTube originals like the the you know the karate kid the Cobra Kai series So it's it's a classic example of if you didn't have it This looks great and it's not confusing. You're like, hey, there's a new product It's free with ads or it's music for this price or it's music and videos For this price whereas we're like hold on. This is confusing So what happens to my YouTube red and my Google Play music so funny and this kind of explains why they held off so long Bringing it out to outside the US And because they were trying to solve that issue of how to do the music thing on YouTube right and I don't know if you've used the YouTube music app But honestly, it's it's pretty good. It is almost divorced from YouTube. It's kind of a separate Yeah, it just happens to do video really well, which makes sense But it's a music app again I don't use it because I am a Google Play music subscriber and all my playlists and things haven't yet migrated over Once they do though, I definitely want to use that YouTube music app because it's nicer well, I think the other interesting thing is that YouTube is extremely popular Obviously And I know a lot of people are gonna say, ah, but I'm good with I'm on Spotify It's better because I have my playlist blah blah blah, but if you're a YouTube user and you enjoy music this offering with the premium version is kind of Better than every other offering out there. I mean some titles might be available somewhere and not somewhere else, but paying 10 bucks somewhere else or 12 bucks and having no ads on YouTube on top of your very Good music service seems like a significant competitive advantage for for YouTube Thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddits This story was all over it's that read at the last couple weeks submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show Dot reddit.com. We're also on Facebook Facebook comm slash groups slash daily tech news show Patrick we were also excited that you were on the show today because last Thursday we explained the link tax and upload filters That are being considered in the EU now June 20th the EU Parliament's legal affairs committee will vote on both They're known as articles 11 and 13 of the copyright directive We talked about it on Thursday, but you would actually be affected directly thoughts This is the audio representation of a facepalm I mean, you know gdpr was considered with a lot of Suspicion from outside the EU and I think recent events have shown that sometimes government action is warranted and necessary Even though yes, it creates all of those annoying banners everywhere Privacy is important This might be an example of When government action is not only not warranted, but also maybe misguided As you've explained on on the show These decisions seem to be catered not only catered to preserve the interests of a very specific group, but also To be ill advised as policies because they don't seem to be able to achieve what they're setting out to achieve and they're going to have some pretty potentially pretty nasty side effects and so My reaction as a european is absolutely different from the one I had for gdpr Where I was kind of maybe not cheerleading, but at least thinking yeah, this might be necessary a lot of people in europe are very concerned about all of this and It might already be too late. So there's a lot of face palming Yeah, that's a uh, it's I that's consistent with most of the reactions that I've seen out there And folks if you want to know a little bit more about this issue, especially before the vote tomorrow go back and listen to thursday's show That was from june 14th with justin robert young episode 3304 Let's check the mailbags here. Let's we'll keep the international theme going at least for those of us in the us Will from sydney says want to shed some light on the confusion around the amazon prime and discontinuation of the international store for australians This was on our show yesterday Will links us to the global store on amazon He says amazon introduced what they call the global store that calculates the import duties for you taxes How much many feeds you need to pay on your order and then handles custom clearance on your behalf And of course if you're a prime member you get free shipping I think the discontinuation of the american store was overblown The global store didn't really get the attention that will thinks it deserved will says overall It's a smart move by amazon to unify the australian shopping experience It filters out items that can't be shipped anyway And they take care of the sales tax also appears they're showing us products in australian dollars Although i'm not sure if that includes tax or not will says i joined prime But i don't think i'll be ordering from the american store with our current exchange rate Will also met tom when tom was in sydney at the meetup That was nice. Thanks for coming out to uh to the meetups will and thank you for explaining this It it sheds light on it in a way that now i understand which was amazon wanted to sound Like it was mad because it was mad about the fact that the the gst Was going to be applied to items under a thousand dollars because it was targeted in a lot of ways at amazon As being one of the the big beneficiaries of the fact that you didn't have to pay the gst on imports under a thousand dollars But what they really did was say okay Well, we can't just let people go to amazon.com anymore because that's a nightmare for the tax collection So let's route the store through the australian store and to avoid having even more tax issues Or people getting very upset We'll make access to that Really attractive under amazon prime when we launch that because then you get the free international shipping And that kind of helps make up for the you know the the trouble of of all of that So so this this all becomes clear now. Thank you will and we got really thoughtful responses So also special thanks to nick and murray wrote in with really good info on this topic as well So keep it coming love the feedback and a lot of context Yeah, this is great when we get the clarification from the people on the ground who actually you know Have to deal with this and know what they're talking about speaking of being on the ground Actually, I don't know. Maybe you're in the clouds. Patrick beija. Thanks for being with us today I am uh in some sort of haze uh of tiredness does that count as a cloud? Sure I think that's a fog if you will You're in a fog What's going on with you besides little sleep deprivation, but where can people keep up with what you're pushing through anyway? 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No. Yeah, yeah Well, I mean I kind of did this uh, you know experiment of like just not drinking coffee for a few weeks and it wasn't hard and now i'm like Okay, well, maybe I just drink it when I feel like it instead of like I can put it anytime I repid it but you understand what I'm doing Wow, we had kind of rocket fuel when you've Yeah, but you've had it out of your system for a couple. Um, all right. I am the opposite of coffee. Yeah, of course So I'm gonna go, uh, try to get a bit of sleep. All right. I hope all your family has good sleep tonight I hope so too sweet dreams to the beige I won't say anything because I know it happens. Thanks. Ah, roger All right, thanks everyone. Bye, patrick right Ah, what a bit of my title windows or my Shobot Shobot Shobot. Lime Shobot if you want to play along Um Orange Shobot, there's uh, youtube now is confusing as google messaging And then I like horrible bosses tesla edition Was it really a horrible boss? That's yeah, it depends on also youtube only confusing to us. My point was that it's not confusing if you're if you're everywhere else Which is funny because as patrick so eloquently described why he likes this. I was still like It there's just a lot of naming conventions that I feel like I understand that google is Consolidating all of this stuff, but they've had a lot of different brand names for a long time Yeah, and and and that's the thing if you're coming to this fresh it makes perfect sense There is now youtube music free with ads right youtube music premium Which doesn't have ads and then youtube premium, which is like not just music, but also everything else on youtube Like it's it's super simple now But all of us who are like wait, but how does that compare to google play music and youtube red? Yeah I personally like musk listen y'all. It's sabotage. It's sabotage That's pretty funny. Yeah, we can do that. Oh, I got Good work e-barch Coming through You know, it's not every day that we can Bring the beastie boys into our show not often enough, but when we do i'm always thankful Yeah, not often enough Hey ladies get funky You could probably do the drums in that song Do All the ladies in the house I'm not sure uh, there's a lot of trumpeting on Well, this is that's how we make it our own is yeah trumpets. Yeah Make our scoffers of hey ladies It was I mean I played the trumpet for one year in fifth grade So it's like I don't even know if I like learned to play anything You know, I actually just like young kids. I played cornet in fifth grade and trumpet in sixth grade We probably played really simple stuff. Oh, yeah, you know But yeah, I remember being like the trumpets so cool, you know I want to be like a cool kid because and trumpets were cool to me But it was Yeah For it the the hole then blow out the air Yeah, it's it's a lot of Facial muscle kind of I I stayed away from any wind instrument because I remember seeing the spit valves on the trombone That's like nah, that's gross It's pretty gross Mm-hmm. There's a lot of spit. I mean I still any time I see an orchestra play. I'm like that's magic I don't know how you people are doing this. Oh, it's amazing. Once you get into it. It's like it's weird because When you're really good at it 90 percent or not should say 90 70 percent of its muscle muscle memory And your brain is just reading ahead and telling your body. All right. This is what's coming up next switch over to this, right? It stills magic, but everybody does it at the same time. I think that's the magic That's the thing is like what when you've been in band you start to understand just how hard a really good symphony is Well and the importance of a conductor, you know, because of course, you know Everyone like that makes you make fun of the conductor and whatever. It's like that's all speaking of precise. You know, it's it's like It's a huge part of the whole thing I'm gonna let in everyone a little secret. I never paid attention to the conductor. I always listen listen to the That's why you aren't didn't join a symphony orchestra. I would pay attention to the First shared violinist So you still had a guy This is an important thing. You drafted off the first chair. I that's actually super smart, right? I would pay attention to the sheet music and then I could hear the violinist So I knew where I needed to be And then I knew that kind of the tempo and the first chair violinist probably paying attention to the conductor So I didn't do the work. Yeah Which is also probably why you're not a symphony orchestra Love a good orchestra Being a symphony orchestra and a symphony orchestra doesn't pay the bills That's why a lot of those people are really really good Well, even if you're really good you can get but you don't make money doing that you make money doing You know appearances or doing albums or yeah, which you don't get unless you're in the symphony orchestra So I'm saying it doesn't pay the bills. You know what I think you're you're oversimplifying I mean, what about, you know World's greatest symphonies Roger what you're saying is right is like they they probably make the most of their money outside of the actual symphony work But you wouldn't they wouldn't be getting that money if they didn't have the symphony work So it's it's basically does pay the bills to be in the symphony because it leads to the other work Raises for all symphony orchestra members. It's not like Major symphony orchestra members have to have a part-time job I don't think I mean granted they weren't they weren't first chair or anything, but a lot of them were a lot of them were music teachers And or uh, they what they would do. Do you know what a chamber orchestras? Yeah, so they would do that on the side so they would play weddings or special events and I guess my point is But those are all related to their yeah, but it's not being a symphony orchestra And that's you're gonna get hired as a music teacher like oh, but your second your second chair in the symphony orchestra That's great. It's different than I'm in the symphony orchestra, but I also have to you know work in this office job You know, oh, yeah, no you you would work in a related field. You know, yeah You're not it all kind of and it all kind of ties together. Yeah. Well. Yeah, it's kind of like Like any musician you couple together your gigs, right, right? Hmm So what you're saying is get to practicing everyone. Yeah, we have to be really good when we go on our own If you want to get to Carnegie Hall, you call up an Uber or lift How do you get to Carnegie Hall the train? Okay, that's good Scott What about those churros? Um How about them churros? I'm gonna I'm gonna call a special breed of burrows churros Uh burrows as in the animal. Oh, okay But you're just gonna call them churros the churro burrows It kind of implies that somehow the burrow is part of the snack It sounds like a snake that's eating itself. It could be just a cinnamon smelling burrow Special breed of cinnamon smelling burrow the kerberos So yeah Churro wrote of and curkey We were having this conversation because we're reading the book Cersei, which is based on the roman nymph goddess Um, it's not really goddess. I guess she's nymph, but nymph is based on Cersei the the mythological figure Not Cersei Lannister. No don't know the one then was she a nymph? She was a nymph that turned all of you Odysseus's men into pigs. Yep That's the one Anyway, there's a it's a novel that's based on her legend and There was a conversation about well, what's the proper pronunciation and thank goodness in the sword and laser audience We had some actual classic scholars who were like Well, the proper pronunciation if you're gonna pronounce it like we think the ancient greeks did would be kerky But no one does that No one's gonna know what you mean by that and we're not even a hundred percent certain. That's how they said it So cersei is Really what everybody should say and I was like, oh, that's so good like The technically right answer isn't always the proper answer Yeah, it's like when people say no the founder said it's gif Uh, that on is true though. I am trolling everybody a little bit on that, but I'm like it just I don't know You just say gif I just use adam's peanut butter and I'm sick Cheesy mom's choose gif Cheesy mom's choose gifts Why is mom so cheesy just pick something so we can leave the store ready. That's why I do a graph graph You know, they have the same number of neck vertebrae that we do you they're so tall. They're almost like they're a Guyant what they're just bigger vertebrae. Wow, really? Yeah Didn't know that I want to be an animal. I'm gonna start saying heaf I sent you an animated heaf He that yeah, that's good Put this whole thing to bed. We're calling it heaf From now on that's standard. That's dts style Yeah Put it in the style guide It's like higante. It's that height. Yeah, exactly solves the whole thing heranimo So it's heranimo. Yeah heranimo What else do you spell with g jeff heff Right, I guess jeff heff. Oh like g e o f f. Yeah He off he off he off He bringing it back to the burrow Churro burrows no offense to any jeffs You love jeffs. I like I like the name jeffry But I particularly like it spelled with the g My best friend from kindergarten's name jeff. He follows me on twitter. We talk a lot. Well, isn't that nice? Isn't that nice? I had to uh report an account on instagram A friend of mine who shall not be named had decided not to be on instagram anymore. Your friends with voldemort Yeah, yeah, voldemort was had a really bad morning. No, my friend who I just knew was like He didn't deactivate his account or anything You know, but I sort of noticed that he had followed me and mutual friends had started to like his stuff And he was like, I haven't been on instagram in months. Can you please report that account? Always weird, you know So if voldemort had a bad hair day, well, he couldn't because he has no hair It's every day. Really. Yeah. Well, he did have hair. It would have just have to be in the past. That's all So it's just having a bad afterlife Sort of well, it's not really an afterlife for him. Is it? I Is yeah, he's not undead, right? Well, I mean spoiler alert after book seven Sorry I just you know spoiler Spoiler alert the good guys win Wait, what? Shoot The big one is that at the end they have a celebratory slither it They had Well, I think all of you have been to that, right? No, I've been to the one here in hollywood. Yeah Oh, I didn't realize there were more than one There's one in orlando too A friend of mine was like, would you want to go? I know that's kind of I don't know and I'm like I love Harry Potter. Why not? Yeah, that sounds fun fun for adults fun They you know what what gives you the excuse to say you're like, yeah, I know it's a kids park But the three broomsticks serves craft beer Got it. So you can say like it's it's really an adult area This is adult fun too. Yeah. Well, it's like, I mean, it's been a while, but I've been to disneyland as an adult It's fun. You know, great. I don't think you even need the excuse to be honest And I know that too aren't the same, but it's like it's you know, you feel like a kid again But it's funny. You feel strike it rich has it parked the car in the garage Ah the heritage if you're a heritage if you're British And that concludes my snooty british Ah, yes snooty british people aren't snooty. We were we were making jokes before the show explain momentarily But we must we must leave the national network. I feel like it's when you know how like in the baseball game When they like we're gonna say goodbye to the national network We'll carry on the post game on the local station I feel like that's what we do and we're like say goodbye to the video. All right. See you guys manana. Bye everyone