 Oh, no. What up? Welcome in to the week five waiver wire Q&A presented by Fandle. I'm your host today, JL joined by my friend, JJ Zacharyson, owner of late round.com, you know him needs no introduction. How you doing today, JJ? I'm good. I'm good. It's actually a pretty fun waiver wire week. We haven't had like a decent waiver week. I feel like the season with like some death to it and stuff. Going down tons of injuries, tons of injuries. We don't, we don't root for injuries, but they do make football a lot more interesting. Yes, like something to do, you know. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. What, uh, from week four, apart from Jabonte going down, what were some of like the big standouts while we wait for some of these questions to come in? What really, uh, you know, stuck out to you this week, you know, there's, there's one thing that I, uh, first off, I'd say probably like from a usage standpoint stuff. Like, like there's, you know, I think the chief's backfield is still really interesting in the way that people are sort of viewing that where, you know, I like clearly regression is going to hit Clyde Edwards, a layer in some way moving forward. But I think at the same time, uh, his environment is good enough that, uh, that he should be okay. Um, and so I still have him ranked as like a mid range RB two and I, you know, I talked about him being a cell candidate on my show, but statistically he's a cell candidate from a market standpoint. He might not be a cell candidate. Um, and then another player, another player that's kind of surprising that I feel like not enough people are talking about. And I have this, I, uh, I'll have this in my, my episode tomorrow that drops in the 10 trends episode, but Josh Jacobs is the last two weeks. He's been a bell cow. I mean, he's been a bell cow the last two weeks. And I feel like it's not being recognized that he's just been that dude this past week. He had the best usage imaginable. I mean, like 20% target share, you know, a large percentage of his teams running back rushes, huge snap share. Um, so Josh Jacobs right now, like, I think the people who have Jacobs recognize what he's doing and understand what he's doing. So he's probably not easy to buy high on right now, but you never know. I mean, like, I just, I don't think the market in general, people who don't have Jacobs realize how good he's been. Would you rather have James Connor or, uh, Josh Jacobs rest of season? I think I might have Jacobs ahead of Connor right now. I'd have to look at my, I should actually pull up my rest season rankings for this show every week because it's a lot easier to reference and stuff. That's right. Yes. I sent them out. Let's see. I have, I have Jacobs one spot ahead of James Connor right now. JL. Oh, yeah. That was a very, that was a very good question. That's crazy. Just from like the draft to now. Yeah. Yeah. And look, I, I wasn't on Jacobs, but you got to adjust with new information. That's how you went in fantasy football. You, you need to not care about what you were right. If you drafted Kyle Pitts everywhere, reevaluate where you're at. I mean, not in life. I just mean with Kyle. Maybe in life. Yeah. I mean, maybe in life you're feeling pretty bad right now. But, uh, you know, if you went hard for Kyle Pitts, then, you know, you're in a totally different situation now. Um, in the way that you view him or you should, you know, you should not view him the same way that you viewed him entering the season. So yeah, um, you know, I think that that's where fantasy managers win and lose is by being able to be reactive and not caring about being right or wrong. Just being right moving forward. Right. Yeah. Like updating your priors, changing your strategy, not overreacting, but reacting appropriately, I think is the key. We got some questions flowing in here. We're about to hit these questions. Uh, if you haven't already hit that like button, subscribe to FanDuel on YouTube, follow them on Twitch. We've got amazing content creators putting out fantastic content every single day, including JJ and I. We're here. We're here putting stuff out. We got Victor here in the chat asking, this is the first time I've seen about this. I only listen to the podcast. So this might be the first time they've seen your face, JJ. I always, I always think it's interesting whenever that happens because I mean, it must be weird if you've like listened to the show for a long time because you hear me like screaming at you every morning. You know, on the, on the podcast. And then, and then you see like, but it's always weird to me too because like I've been doing video shows for like eight years, like I've been out there for a while. But so if you're seeing me now for the first time, I'm sorry that I look more disheveled than I typically do. And we got Simon here saying, what's up? I'm in a guillotine league. Haven't made any big waiver wire pickups yet. A thousand dollar budget. How much, how much would you spend on Devonta Smith? So here's the deal, like, like guillotine leagues, I mean, my, my approach is generally to not spend early on in the season. Now I will say I'm in three guillotine leagues and this week I got second to last in two of them. So I'm still alive. You're feeling the heat. Yeah, I felt the heat. I mean, I had some, those like late game, you know, or late week injuries really got me. Like I didn't expect Amun Rasen Brown to be out and stuff like that. It kind of, kind of ruined me a little bit in these leagues. So, you know, I'm going to spend a little bit more probably in those leagues this week, just because I was so close to being eliminated. But I do try to wait as long as possible. So Simon, it's good that you still have a thousand dollars left of your thousand dollar budget. That being said, you know, Devonta Smith solid, you know, like a wide receiver three probably in fantasy. I'm, you know, typically this time of year, you know, teams in your, in your guillotine league already have spent some money. You can probably go at like 60 to 70 bucks or something like that. Like it doesn't have to be that insane of a bit. I don't think it's necessary to have that insane of a bit because, you know, realistically, again, you know, there's still what? It's week five. There's still 12 teams left in this league. So you just have to get better than, than 12. You know, there's still a probability wise, you know, probability is still in, and odds are still in your favor. So, you know, I still am not going to go too, too hard for these guys. I think the way that you sort of roll with it is get as many like flex guys. You can't, which is like a Devonta Smith, but keep betting on those kinds of players and get a lower cost for them versus just going hard and getting like a 500 or $700 Nick Chubb or something like that. It's just a smarter approach. Cause everyone in your league is going to do that, right? All your league mates are going to take that approach. So it's smart to pick up that value on the, on the lower end side. And then Alex asks, and how is our week in a week for Scott fishbowl? How'd your team do this week? What's your record at JJ? I took a, I took an L to the man asking the question here is. Oh, I see. I see. I believe, I believe that was, I believe that was the matchup. If I recall correctly. Yeah. He, he whooped me. His team was, is very good. My team, my team was like fine. Like it's a very average team so far this year. So it was like, you know, it was a fine enough team. But I scored, I scored 165. He put up to 13 this week. Damn. Kind of impossible for me to get that. Yeah. What are you going to do at that point? My Scott fishbowl team is terrible. So I don't want to talk about it. Victor has asked in Tyler Algier or George Pickens, a better player for the rest of the season. You know, obviously we have a Mitchell Trubisky being replaced by Kenny Pickett. What do you think about Tyler? Tyler Algier or George Pickens, which one are you prioritizing on the waiver this week? Yeah. So look, if you have this strong opinion that, that you like Pickens more than Algier, I'm not going to stop you. You know, if you think that Pickett's going to favor Pickens more than, than Deontay Johnson, I don't think that's the case. I think that he's still going to go with Deontay. I'm looking over my other monitor because I'm trying to see where I have Tyler Algier in my rest of season rankings. I think I have Pickens ahead. So if that's the case. I'm going to have to, I'm going to have to open my actual spreadsheet to make sure that I'm not. Gotta check the source. Gotta check the main frame. But I'm not doing this improperly. Like I don't, I don't have necessarily strong opinion. I mean, I think the, the way that I would view Tyler Algier just generally speaking is that he's a pretty good prospect. My model liked him a decent bit. I guess I do have Algier ranked ahead of Pickens right now. Yeah. So I do have Algier ranked ahead of Pickens right now. And the reason for that is in situations like this, where you get a rookie running back, stepping in, there's a chance. There's a, there's a, you know, if he does hit, there's more upside with that player in fantasy football as a running back hitting than a wide receiver hitting like that. And not only that, but you have Kenny Pickett stepping in, which is an upgrade of where they were with Mitch Trebisky, but historically rookie quarterbacks have not been good for their personnel in fantasy football. So you get this, this combination of a rookie wide receiver with a rookie quarterback. I love George Pickens. I think that the ceiling is certainly there. I would try to add both of them if I'm being honest with you. I think both of them are very, very worthy off the wire this week. If you want to go Pickens over Algier, I'm not going to stop you. He's a more talented player at his position. So, you know, doing that is totally fine and reasonable. And Damian Williams is coming back next week for Atlanta too. And so that could, that could cause issues for Algier. But the bottom line is there's an opportunity here for this rookie running back who I thought was kind of undervalued in the draft. He looked really good in my model versus where he was drafted. You don't often get these like bigger bodied rookie running backs who can catch passes out of the backfield, that combination. And when you do, I think you should try to pounce. So I like Tyler Algier from a ceiling perspective at a scarcer position. But if you want to go Pickens, I have no problem with that whatsoever. It sounds like you would rather go Pickens, not going to stop you at all because obviously the talent is there. He's better at his position than Algier as it is. Yeah, this comes down to a bit of the, of your league as well, or your team maybe more specifically is what position do you need, right? Because Tyler Algier is a great, or a running back within an opportunity in front of him. George Pickens is a wide receiver and your team is probably has a need for either more wide receiver depth or more running back depth. Something you said over, I think it was over the summer, JJ. Remember you talking about Tyler Algier for some reason sticks out in my mind as like, if he gets the opportunity this year, he might be one of those players who just pops off. But like, I remember you not being super impressed with him from, from the off season. But, but specifically saying if he gets that opportunity, this is the type of guy that can capitalize on it. Yeah, look, one of his comps was James Connor and my, and my prospect model. So like, he's not like the most explosive dude in the world, but he's a big bodied guy. And again, he can catch passes three down back or he can be a three down back. I think that's, that's valuable. I mean, when you can find that combination, like this is pretty similar to how I felt about like a Ramandre Stevenson, another guy who could catch the ball to the backfield, your body back when you can utilize those players in that way. There's a lot of value in that. So I think Algier is a good player, bottom line. I'm not going to stop you if you want to go with Pickens again, because Pickens is Uber, Uber talented, but I don't, I don't really buy that Pickens is going to see a higher target share than Deontay Johnson. I think Deontay Johnson is still going to be still a guy. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. Jordan, and you're asking how all the bears use Khalil Herbert once Montgomery is healthy. We saw Khalil Herbert have a few really high upside games, high performing games last season and they stopped using them. Do you think that's going to happen again this year when Montgomery comes back? JJ? I would say probably not to the same degree as it did last year where he just sort of like disappeared. I'm thinking more 65-35 split, 60-40 split when Montgomery's back. So yeah, I mean, I think Herbert is arguably a better player than David Montgomery and it's not like this regime is tied to David Montgomery. He's going to be a free agent after this year. It's not a lock that he's going to be around next year. And so I think that there's a real chance that Herbert is just a better player. Do I think that the coaches are going to follow suit? Not necessarily. So we'll say 60-40 in favor of Montgomery, maybe 65-35. I think that's totally fair. I'm a little less bullish that they're going to see the right path here, which is used to Leo Herbert. He's fantastic. Now he looks great. Derek in here asking what do you think about Gibson once Brian Robinson returns? Brian Robinson was activated last week and should be returning week five if I'm not mistaken. Last I heard, what are you thinking? How are you thinking about this Washington backfield? Yeah. I mean, look, the problem with Gibson is that if and when they're in a negative game script, he's not on the field. I mean, they use JD McKissick. So now you're going to throw someone who's going to compete with him on early downs and who has a three-down skill set. I just think it's Arrow pointing down for Antonio Gibson. It's been that way. I had him as a sell after week two because they had two pretty easy games to start the season. Well, Jacksonville ended up being a better team, but they were at least, you know, they had a neutral script in that game. And they played Detroit. I think it wasn't week two. And obviously Detroit's been horrible against running back. So I'm not bullish on Antonio Gibson whatsoever. I think if Brian Robinson is healthy, you know, just assuming that we got to approach it the same way that we were going to approach it entering the season before the incident happened. So, you know, I'm not, I don't think Gibson, I think Gibson's like a RB three or four in most formats. Is Brian Robinson worth picking up off the waivers this week? Yeah. I mean, if you want to pick him up, that's totally fine. But, you know, I don't see a reason to believe that, you know, I think it's fine just to throw the dart. You know, there's a difference between like adding a guy off the waiver wire and trading for Antonio Gibson, right? Adding a guy off the waiver wire, the cost is not that significant trading for Antonio Gibson. It is significant. And so, you know, if you just want to add them to see what happens and say, oh, maybe Brian Robinson is really good and he might be really good. Then that's fine. But I think that realistically from like a reasonable range of outcome standpoint, I don't know where the ceiling is going to come from any of these guys in this backfield. Yeah. Antonio Gibson just screams trap to me. And we just seen these like surface level usage stats just go down each week. And it's not very promising. It's not what you want to see. Yeah. KidTrixa asking, do we play Jonathan Taylor this week? Jonathan Taylor dealing with an ankle injury, right? This ankle? Yeah. Are you playing Jonathan Taylor? You having enough confidence in? If he goes, I'm playing him. Yeah. I'm not venturing to Jonathan. Especially, I mean, it's a good matchup too. I'm not going to bench Jonathan Taylor if he goes. Yeah. Those types of players are so nice because it's like, if he's playing, you're in. Otherwise, no. And it makes that decision nice and easy. Yeah. Jordan asking, who is the better waiver wire pickup in Denver, Mike Boone or Latavius Murray? Mr. Journeyman, Latavius Murray. This is a million dollar question right now. I feel like a lot of people are asking this. I'm going with Mike Boone. I still think that Boone at least has this like, you know, he's been good in like the limited action he's gotten throughout his career. You know, Latavius Murray's been fine, but he's also very old. I know that people are looking at last week and they're saying, oh, he looked good last week. It's like, okay, it's a one game sample, guys. Like we saw him last year, not be very great. You know, someone to write home about. And so I'm going to say Mike Boone. He's already on that team. He already knows the system, all that kind of stuff. It's not like it's difficult for running backs to learn systems though. I'm going to lean Mike Boone. I think there's just more ambiguous upside there with Boone versus Murray. Yeah, I'm with you. A lot of Latavius Murray's value comes from those like red zone touches too. Just like stealing that, that goal line work. And I'm just not going to rely on that in a brand new team this week, you know? Yeah. Austin asking Robert Woods or George Pickens. I guess this is a waiver wire. So Robert, which, which of these two guys are you prioritizing? I mean, look, Woods has a probably a better projection, but I'm going to go with ceiling and probably lean with lean George Pickens. I just, you know, there's, there's just that, that interesting ceiling, intriguing ceiling. What happens if he really does hit? What happens if Pickens, Pickett does target him at a higher rate, which is still possible. I know I talked about the ante earlier. So I'm still going to say George Pickens, you know, regardless of that, you know, Woods is fine. I understand Traylon Burks is injured and everyone's oh, he's going to see all these looks. It's like, you can't just assume that that's going to happen. Number one, number two, it's not like this is that attractive of a passing offense. So I'm going to lean Pickens there. Right. This Tennessee, Tennessee Titans team, like offense and defensive just not looked good at all. It just looked completely stalled. Yeah. Nick asking, can we drop Elijah Moore? It's a time to drop Elijah Moore. I would not, you know, he's still running the most routes on that team. He's still playing the most snaps on that team. A wide receiver, you know, this past week didn't necessarily have the better matchup in that offense. Zach Wilson's back. He might favor him a little bit more, but it's concerning for sure. I would still hold Elijah Moore because he's incredibly talented. He's someone who looks great in my model. Like odds are in his favor in general for year two and year three. This is this being year two for him. So I would be holding Elijah Moore. You know, it's just sometimes players go through tough stretches and also there's just a lot of moving parts within that Jets offense. So I just, I can't imagine there being a better like dart throw, a high upside stash than Elijah Moore on your waiver wire. Yeah. No, I agree with you completely. It would depend on who you're picking up and I'm with you. I can't imagine anyone having more of that upside. That makes sense. Kyle Phillips gets a step. Well, Alex asking Kyle Phillips, does he get a significant bump up in PPR with Traylon Berks being out? So I liked Kyle Phillips a lot coming out. And I was really excited to see his target chair in week one. Obviously it's not been the same since then. But the problem with Traylon Berks and Kyle Phillips is Kyle Phillips is not a perimeter wide receiver. They need to run three wide sets for Kyle Phillips to see the field because he's a slot receiver. So I think unfortunately Nick Westbrook of Kinay is probably the big winner within that offense with Traylon Berks out because he's going to play the perimeter. And then, you know, Kyle Phillips will be on the field, you know, in these three wide sets. He's probably going to play a relatively similar role. Now with that being said, when they are in those sets in that 11 personnel, Kyle Phillips will probably get a little bit more volume his way just because the competition around him isn't necessarily as strong. I think Phillips in deep leagues is still a decent stash. But I don't think that he's like the main beneficiary from this Traylon Berks injury. That makes sense. That makes sense. And like you said, you know, it's not like the opportunity is fantastic there in Tennessee or whoever it is. Jay asking, what are we doing with Darnell Mooney, the moon dog, as someone was saying to me, Andy Barons was saying or something recently. I would hold him. I would hold him. Like you can't you can't trade him. You know, maybe you can drop him in like a 10 or maybe 12 team league. But the peripherals are decent enough and they were last week. There's not throwing the ball that much and they're not generating that many that much yardage. And so it's just a it's a mess. But you know, I don't know what else you would do. I mean, you're either you're either trading him or dropping him because you're not starting him or stashing him, right? Can't trade him because no one's going to be trading for him. Can't start him because he's not reliant. It's not very good. You're either stashing him or dropping him. And I don't know if there's that many. I mean, there might be some out there. Like I would probably take George Pickens over Darnell Mooney rest of season, for instance. Just upside. Why not, you know? Yeah. Right. From an upside standpoint, you might as well just go for it. But, you know, aside from that, you know, Tyler LG or if you want to do that as well, makes sense. But I think he's more of a stash. Yeah, that is brutal, man. I know a lot of people were bought in on Darnell Mooney this year. So I understand that pain. Yeah. Hardee Gaskin, George Pickens or Zaya Pacheco running back if you were to choose one. I'm going with Pickens over Pacheco. I love Pacheco. I think he's a great stash, but you have to go with Pickens there. You were your Pacheco hype, hype man. This off scene. I was, I was. But the thing that the thing with the Pacheco like hype stuff is that all started when he got drafted. It wasn't like it was, it was pre him being in camp and getting all that love. And then his ADP just shot up into like a single digit rounds in some drafts. I'm like, I'm not part of that hype. I'm part of the post draft, get him in your rookie draft type. And so, you know, Yes, too far. Yeah. Like late round, late round patrons and myself have Pacheco all over our dynasty rosters because we got him in the fourth round because he was free then, then he rose up to the second round and rookie drops later in the season. So it's a little bit different. I at least want to throw that caveat out there that like, like it was, he is a, in my prospect model, he comped to Damian Williams best and Damian Williams thrived in that Andy Reed offense. I think we all saw how good Pacheco might be this past week. He just runs really, really angry. It's really fun to watch. Someone on Twitter is like, he just runs like it's his, it's his last run. Yeah. Louis Riddick. Yeah. That's hilarious. It's a perfect way to describe it too, which by the way, you mentioned your, your patron. If you aren't already, go check out late round.com. It is the best fantasy football resource out there. I can say that confidently because I am a patron. So I'm speaking from a point of truth here and I would never lie to you. My wonderful people, a fandal. I would never do that. Another question from Derek. Nope. We already answered that one. Not that one. Brian Robinson or Raheem Moster? Um, I think I might have Moster ahead. Yeah. I've most or no, I've Brian Robinson ahead actually. Um, Moster, it's one of those situations. I had this conversation today with a patron where, um, it's one of those situations where if you need projectable volume, like if you need someone to fill in a flex spot, like immediately then get Mostered. If you need just pure ceiling, I think that Brian Robinson. What is Brian Robinson's ceiling? Is it second? Third round pick? He, he was a day two pick. Yeah. Day two pick? Yeah. You think he could be like a RB3, RB2? Yeah. I think that it's possible, but it's more possible like, like there's contingent upside form too. Like if something happens to either JD McKessack or Antonio Gibson, whereas Raheem Moster is completely dependent on something happening to Chase Edmonds and even then I don't know if they would, how they would handle that backfield. Right. That makes sense. We got a question from A.J. Dillon for DeAndre Swift, PPR. I have Swift hire. So yeah, I would do that. I hate same position for same position trades, but I would do that because there's a loser in that trade. I mean, whoever doesn't do, you know, like doesn't make your team better. Yeah. Like how'd you describe it? You described it with Simon the other day pretty well. I thought it was like musical chairs. Yeah. You just play musical chairs. Yeah. And that's essentially what it is. So just, yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't go for that trade either. Let's see how much fab would you put on guys like Boone or Murray? So how much we talked about Boone, talked about Murray. You said Boone is your guy out of the two of them. Yeah. How much fab are you willing to put down on these guys? Like what's the opportunity here? Yeah. I mean, look, free agent budget is very, very dependent on your league. You know, whether you're in an eight team league or 14 team league, how people generally spend in your league, whatever. So if we're looking like a 12 team normal, typical league, probably spending like 15 to 20 percent on Boone maybe. And then Murray, I'd probably drop that down by 5 to 10 percent. And then Robert Woods, you know, again, I don't really think Robert Woods is like an absurd ceiling. I think Pickens has more of the ceiling. I think Pickens is probably like a 25, 30 percent type guy. Maybe even higher if you really need wide receiver because the talent's there. And then Woods, you know, I'd bump it. I'd probably bump Woods to like, you know, if a guy like Woods is on your waiver wire, it's probably a fairly shallow league. So I'm not going to be that aggressive in getting Robert Woods because you know, like a guy like Woods in a shallow league, you can find off the waiver wire each week. Right. Right. No, that makes sense. Yeah. There's so many of those types of receivers. I'm cracking up over here because Daddy Fandle in the chat says, what's the deal with Alexander Madison? What is the deal? Oh, man. How are you feeling by Alexander Madison, JJ? I think he's a good stash, obviously. You know, we saw Dalvin Cook is not a hundred percent. He's wearing that brace around his shoulder. But he did get a lot of work. He did get a lot of work at the end of that game against New Orleans and London. So I think Dalvin Cook is actually going to be fine. But you know, Madison's probably the best handcuff in fantasy football, I would say. Yeah. He's just got a rostrum. He's so good when he fills in. He's just so good. So good. Is IUQ dropable for Pickins or Robert Woods? No, I think I have IUQ over both. If you want to go Pickins, I'm not going to stop you. But I have, I think I have IUQ ahead of me. I think I have IUQ ahead of me. I think I have IUQ ahead of me. I think I have IUQ ahead of Pickins right now. Sorry. I keep referencing. Yeah, I do. I do. I'm going IUQ. IUQ. I would go IUQ as well. Yeah. Yeah. We'll move on from that one. Let's see. So I got a question here, but Gordon is RB1, isn't he? And I want to take this opportunity. What is your, what do you think the upside is for Melvin Gordon now with Chavonte Williams out? Do you think that he's going to get, is it you think he's going to be the workforce or that he'll get like a similar split mixed in with these players? He will see more work on the ground. But I think that there's a chance that Mike Boone sees more work through the air in that offense. You know, playing as more like the third down back. Gordon is the RB1. Yeah. On that team. I would rather have Gordon than Mike Boone and Latavius Murray. But in these situations, number one, you can't, you're not always going to get like a clean player off the waiver wire who's stepping into being like a bell cow back. It just doesn't. Right. Right. So, so what we're doing is we're playing probability of okay, well, what if they split the backfield up a little bit more than than we think similar to how they've been splitting up the backfield. And then the other question we should ask is, you know, is Melvin Gordon the 1a in that offense? I think that probability wise, we'd probably give him like an 80% chance that he would be the 1a in that offense. 90% chance. But there's a chance that he's not and that Mike Boone just outplays him because Melvin Gordon's been putting the ball on the ground a lot. And so I, you know, that's why you're spending up for these other running backs is because you can't assume going into waivers, going into anything fantasy football, you can't make so many assumptions that you think you know what's going on, especially the running back position because coaching decisions drive running back production and volume so much, right? At the end of the day, they have to be on the field in order to get production. And so we don't know what that entirely looks like. Like we can say this guy's more talented, this guy's more talented. It doesn't matter if the coach doesn't think so. Whereas at wide receiver talented players get open and they get, they get targets that way. So talent matters a little bit more there. You know, it's the RB one, but you should still be targeting Mike Booth and Latavius Murray. I feel like NFL teams are one of their main guy goes down in the running back position. I feel like more often than not, we see them, they don't like double down by being like, all right, this is the scheme. Now let's just plug some the next guy up in there. It's, they're divesting that then through all these other assets because there's a bunch of running backs, right? And they're not separating themselves talent wise. We saw the Ravens do this last year. Yeah. Dobbins went down and I was already there. I did, I did a study on, on handcuffs years ago. I'm assuming that the numbers haven't really changed that dramatically, but people think that handcuffs are a lot better than they actually are. When handcuffs step in, and I did the study where I looked at top 12 running backs when they got hurt. So we're assuming that they're hurt, right? Which doesn't happen very often, realistically. I mean, it's not like every top 12 running back gets hurt every year. Right. And when these backup running backs step in, they typically give you three or RB four production, which is based on ADP. So basically the RB two on that team by ADP, when they stepped in, they typically didn't do all that well, which tells you to not draft handcuffs. You can roster handcuffs as you go on in the season. But again, it just goes back to the idea that you think you know way more than you do about this. Yeah. I remember a lot of people got, got a, got a little hurt, a little butt hurt from that study. Talking about draft and handcuffs, but I remember correctly. Nick Collins in here, we're, we're wrapping up here shortly. We're going to answer a couple more questions and then we are going to get going. Nick Collins asked, can I trust Rashad Penney or did you just play the Lions last week? I think, I think Penny is one of the best cell candidates this week. Yes, he had a great game against the Lions, but the Lions have been horrible against running backs this year. Not only that, but he's only seen two targets since Kenneth Walker returned to action. Kenneth Walker has seven targets over the last three weeks. So they're still not using Rashad. I mean, Rashad Penny had eight targets all of last season. He was a pass catcher. That's, that's not, that doesn't scream goodness from a fantasy perspective when you're talking about Seattle, which I know Gino Smith's playing great, all of that. But I think that we would probably bet on Seattle being a below average team versus an above average team moving forward. And that means that they could see more negative game scripts, which is going to really, really hurt Rashad Penny. Yeah. Rashad Penny, I just can't trust him. I can't, he's burned me so much since the point he was drafted to now. And then Alex, I was going to be our last question is Rashad 14 teamer than Jalen Warren. Yeah. Yeah. Because he's in a better offensive environment. If something happens to his starter, then he's going to step in and be that dude just like Jalen Warren would, but it's a better situation. Not only that, Leonard Fournette's never played a full season in his NFL career. So there's that upside too that, that Fournette has been hurt. Not that I fully believe an injury proneness, but it's at least something. And Rashad White might have flex appeal during bi weeks, just given the fact that he, you know, he might be like a one third split with Lenny, moving forward, maybe like a 25 to 30%. Whereas I don't think we're going to see that to that degree with Jalen Warren. So I'm going to say yes, Rashad White, a better handcuff right now than Jalen Warren's. And I'm with you. And that is going to wrap up our week five waiver wire Q and a JJ. If you haven't already, make sure you go check out late round.com. Go follow JJ on Twitter at late round QB, the best follow on Twitter period fantasy or not. That is, that is cold. And while you're at it, hit that like button on this video. Subscribe to FanDuel on YouTube. Didn't mean to put that comment back up. Follow them on Twitch. Hand a bunch of the other socials tick tock. So Snapchat. And the other ones I've forgotten Zynga is the one Simon always brings up. They're putting out amazing content. 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