 Right, here we are. My name's Peter Harib. I'm Chairman of ID TechX and I'm going to interview Robert Wildman of CareStream Health Incorporated and he's in Market Segment Manager and he's going to tell us about some very fascinating new technologies which we think can be applied to a wide variety of new industries. In other words, this is not unusual at this show that we have someone that has a product that has applications that are not yet being exploited. So could you fill us in a little bit? Yeah absolutely, thank you Peter. So of great interest is multi-layer coding capabilities that CareStream is a world leader in and that really springs from our history of Eastman Kodak, which is the founding of our company. We were spun off in 2007. We're the world leader in medical imaging and through that medical imaging as well as photographic films, we've honed the capabilities around multi-layer coding to allow us to simultaneously put down discrete layers onto flexible substrates. And so we've applied that in a couple of different industries and we see as broad applications for a lot of other industries such as as we're showing here energy storage such as multi-layer electrodes where you could put down a primer layer and in multi-layer electrodes solving some problems of today's batteries through design freedom that multi-layer structures offer at no additional cost because just like a single layer you can put down multiple layers at the same time as opposed to needing to run through the machine many times. So this is interesting you don't use the term there but I think you said to me earlier there's a term slide coding. Correct that's the that's what the one of the methods this is called or cascade coding it sometimes referred to is referred to as slide because a lot of people are similar with familiar with slot die coding which you kind of think of these as individual slot dies where there's a cavity to uniformly distribute the fluid so you can get a uniform thin layer of fluid but then the real trick associated with this is that as they cascade down one on top of the other you create a discrete package that you still bead code here at precision backup role similar to slot die coding. So it's certainly true that we've noticed that so many of these industries use slot die coding a very old technique very crude technique that's very slow relatively to multiple coating and this multiple coating is not just a case of faster it could be a better integrity coating. Correct we can get to you know with the appropriate focus and write material sets on the order of 1% uniformity which is the common target for batteries and we can do that for each of the layers as well as the stack on whole and again the concept is that it really opens up opportunities to to solve some of today's battery challenges as well as it could be applicable as to barrier coatings where there's a dyad approach of multiple alternating layers you know in lighting there's other opportunities for for different kind of you know light enhancement films things of that nature so and when we come to things like super capacitors and hybrid super capacitors with battery technology as well or battery technology itself and that means lithium post lithium and a whole host of technologies we often have a separator and you have some dream that maybe you could do the separators of course they vary from something very crude and very porous to something that's an iron exchange membrane we can talk about lithium metal we can talk about fuel cells sure is that part of your dream yeah I think there's some potential there as well with the right material science and the right system to your point you know in addition to possibly using ceramic particles to to kind of replace the separator there's also technologies that with the right polymer based structures and the right chemistry and the right processing you can get self-generation of pores just through the coating and drying process so there's potential application there and you mentioned like solid state batteries you know I think that there's a good potential for that in the future as well as the interfaces are really a critical issue associated that technology and so if we can employ this type of of coating process to enable the multiple layers to have the conformal you know intimate contact of interfaces for solid state I think there's a real opportunity there as well and a lot of these things are really almost just party tricks on a very narrow web like two centimeters or something right you I think are in a different league tell me do correct yes as I've said we've really cut our teeth on this technology over the last you know 20 years or so where we've made over a billion square meters of x-ray film for you know very demanding markets and we do that at about a meter and a half y or so so you know it's not just an idea this has been a proven concept like I said for medical films as well as photographic films as well as some other applications that we've made billions of square meters and really proven the ability to do that at large scale to supply films around the world organics and in organics correct and these would be different solvents for different layers so they don't in mix or correct so that's part of our key key capabilities and know how that we bring you know in terms of partnership the expertise that we bring to the table it's the management of the things like how you get this package to be these discrete layers is really function of both the chemistry the formulation of that chemistry as well as the process and that's the know-how that we bring of how to manage those material sets in order to deliver you know the functionality that you're looking for I think that's formidable I think the width of the web is most unusual I think that the versatility of high speed and improved integrity of the films is very unusual and from our point of view we think you're onto something we think that you have something that could apply to a very large number of industries and we wish you well so is there anything else in your dream you can share with us or well I guess I would just say that really we're actively searching for partners at this point that really see the same benefit that we do in multilayer coding and you know the what we see is a way to move forward is that you know as a partner we bring the the expertise in multilayer coding from the processing side of things and our partners bring the expertise on the material set and product structure of interest whether it's batteries or fuel cells or you know display films whatever the case may be and together we can co develop some you know new technology and proliferate the application of this you know well proven capability to new new processes I mean new new products and your substantial company so we're able to be a strong partner in that sense is that right absolutely yeah we're a 1.5 billion dollar company annual revenue we sell into about 160 plus countries around the world got a global supply chain and footprint and both in US Central America Europe and Asia so we can we can really bring that to bear as well extremely impressive thank you for your time yeah absolutely thank you Peter