 Fandall TV is more ways to win from Radio Row here in Phoenix, Arizona. I'm Lisa Kearney getting you ready to bet Super Bowl 57 between the Chiefs and the Eagles. It is day two, and you know the team bringing the knowledge here, former NFL wideout and Super Bowl champion, James Jones in-house. We've got sports buddy expert Dave Weaver, sports talk radio host Andrew Filiponi, all the usual suspects. Guys, we are breaking down a bunch of fun Super Bowl bets on the board at the Fandall Sports Book. Hey, you guys ready to do this thing? Oh, yeah, let's do it. Let's go. And also, by the way, Radio Row is really filling up here on day two. Yes, starting to come in. A little quiet early in the week, and now it's happened and hip in an album. Carrot Top is here. Carrot Top is here. He was actually on this set with Pat McAfee, so you can check out his show. Gays, along with, of course, us in Phoenix, our NFL expert, Cole Wright joining us from Chicago to give us his unique take, as always. Cole Wright was up. He's like, I'm ready to go. Let's go. All right, we told you. There you go. We told you all week long, we're bringing in some great guests to join us here on our set. Today, we've got former Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb. We've got Lions Pro Bowl wide receiver Amonra St. Brown and dropping by. So get psyched for these guys, some great conversations ahead. They were awesome. All right, we're ready to do this thing. More ways to win starts now. All right, we started with this Friday yesterday, so we're going to get to that in a few minutes. But today, we're jumping out to another popular prop bet, the total, you guys. We've been talking about it. Kansas City and Philly are the first and third ranked scoring offenses, respectively, this total again, 50 and a half. Dave, we're talking about some very high powered offenses here, but we've also got very elite defenses. So when you look at the total sitting there at 50 and a half, how are you playing it? That's the thing. I am not in the mindset that Philly has an elite defense because I don't think they've done it against good teams or strength. The schedule is 29th in the league. And I told James already on this show last week that the Chiefs are going to score 38 points in this game. Okay, so do the math that the Chiefs get 38 points. We only need 13 from the Eagles to get the 51, but it's going to be even higher score into that. It'll be like 38, 27, somewhere in there. I think this game could get into the 60. So if you like the Chiefs like I do, you probably think it's the over. If you like the Eagles, you probably coordinate the parlay for it to go under. Is that what you would say, James? Yeah, well, I definitely think that you are crazy. I know you think that. The Chiefs are going to score 38. I think it's going to be the other way around. I definitely think it's going to be over, you know, but I think it's going to be the other way around. The Philadelphia Eagles going to score 38 points and the Kansas City Chiefs will be around maybe 17 to 21 points in this ball game. I just don't see how. And I know you smiled at Dave. You're not going to smile. I'm giving you the dagger eyes, but you're used to that by now. But I just don't see how the Kansas City Chiefs are going to score consistently in this ball game. Pony, it's a really good defense and a pass rush. I think Patrick Mahomes is going to be running like he was in Tampa. I'm telling you, I just don't believe in this offensive line is going to be able to protect him. The way they were able to protect him. At least it's two on two on set. James and I agree. And you two are locked up. So I lean over, but slightly. I'm a little over what you keep pounding this drum that the Eagles have played the sisters of the poor on their way to the Super Bowl. They have the Steelers, the Packers, your two teams. How about the 49ers defense? Not any good 49ers defense is good. How do the Eagles do offensively? I hope they score points. I like the over. I'm just saying, I kick it out of my head. You're saying they basically got a bye week to the Super Bowl. They were the only division that put three teams in the divisional round of the playoffs. When there were eight teams left, there were three NFC East teams. That tells me how bad the NFC is in general. The AFC, the Bills, the Bengals. I mean, that's the better. So regardless of what NFC team was in this game, you would take the Chiefs to beat them. It could have been the Niners. It could have been any team from the NFC. I was going to take the Bengals if the Bengals won, or I would take the Chiefs to the Chiefs. I was always going to be AFC. All right, well, let's see what Cole's thinking on this thing. It's, again, Cole, the total on the Fandals Sportsbook right now, 50 and a half. How are you playing the total? Well, Lisa, Kansas City, as I'm sure you know, they won 66% of their game, decided by three points or fewer. And they averaged just a scotch under 29 points per game. And I think they're going to give themselves that little extra Super Bowl boost. They're going to go over 30 points. I think, Philly, they're going to keep this one close as well. And Kansas City, as we know when it comes to defense, they allowed 23 or more at 10 times this year. So even though it'll be close, I'm leaning towards the over on this one, 58 points, because 31, 27, I'm looking to the future. You can't spell Miss Cleo without Cole. That's where I'm going. No. Hey, so this is going to have to be a deal next year. And we're all back here on this FanDoll Show. At least eight weeks of the season, we have to watch the football games together. Because I'm starting to think that Cole and Dave don't watch the football games. They're saying that the Eagles are going to give up 30-plus points in this football game. And I don't know where they're getting that from. You know what, the X factor in this game, and no one's talking about it, is the head referee, is Carl Shepard. Oh, man. Is this his third or fourth Super Bowl? He was head of the crew that did the Chiefs game two Super Bowl two years ago in Tampa. His crew consistently throws 16 flags a game. It's one and a half times more than the average crew all season long. We'll see if anybody moves the ball. Yes. Depends what flags there. PIs, it's good. If it's holding, it's bad. I hate that, because that sends the message that the NFL, in order to get this game, if you hand out the most penalties, this is your reward. I don't want to over. I don't want them to decide. This will be his last Super Bowl if he comes out here and he's just throwing flags all over the yard, and his crew is throwing flags all over the yard. This will be his last football game, because you've got to let the players play the game, especially in the Super Bowl. You can't call a lot of the ticky-stacked stuff in the Super Bowl. I remember a lot of these refs do other stuff, right? Some of them are teachers. Some of them are firefighters. A lot of them do different stuff. So I remember Coach Mike McCarthy used to come into every team meeting, and he used to put the referees up there. This is what Bob does. This is what Lisa does. This is what Dave does. This is what Pony does. Before the game, before the game, go have a conversation with them. Let them know. So we used to go up to them, hey, Lisa, I know, you know, you a school teacher and all that. Hey, good to see you all that. Hey, listen, they defense is gonna hold. They defense is gonna hold, Lisa. That's fine. Don't throw the flag, because I'm gonna push off anyway. So just let us play. I love that. But I used to tell the refs that, you know what I mean? Just so they know, just so they know, you don't gotta call the tiki-tack stuff. If he's holding me, I'm gonna push off. I'm gonna try to fight. Obviously if it's blatant, my push off, blatant or holding, blatant, but don't call it, it was just a message. Don't call it a tiki-tack stuff. Let us, let us play. Is that, is that common for coaches? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Well, coaches, I don't know, but I'm assuming Mike McCarthy learned it from somebody that, you know, a coach that, but yeah, he used to do it every game. I love that. Let me go play the game. So you just go up there, build that and just say, hey man, just let us play. Yeah, I like that. All the tiki-tack stuff, yeah. All right, I like this too. Let's talk about some of the most popular prop bets on the board at the Fandals Sports Book right now. You can bet on the first touchdown score. There is a ton of plus money for every player. And look, Travis Kelsey is the favorite right now. James, should I come to you first on this one? You wanna come to me first on this one? Listen, the first touchdown score I have, my guy ain't even up here. Boston, Scott, whoo. He is going to run one in. I already said that it's gonna be a toss. It's gonna be won by the Eagles. The Chiefs gonna get the ball three and out. It's gonna be a bomb to AJ Brown. They're gonna be in the red zone. Boston, Scott scores the first touchdown. And they're gonna put Sanders on the bench and bring in Boston, Scott. Oh, Sanders will start it though. You know, the Chiefs will come out, play some solid defense, and then maybe third down and short, they get a little Boston, Scott. He scored the one in the Giants game. He did, it wasn't, I don't think it was the first one. I like to pull from the pass and see if history can repeat itself. So when the Chiefs won the Super Bowl, not that long ago, the guy that scored their first touchdown was actually Patrick Mahomes. There was a play, and especially if you can get a pass interference in the end zone, put it the one yard line, very good chance that he goes over the top or maybe like he did in that year, he ran an option to the right instead of pitching it, which he could have. I think it means something to get into the end zone when you're a quarterback. You passed in the ankle early. I've taken Mahomes at plus 2,700. It's huge odds, but I think he's got a very good chance to run one in an early. Testing that ankle early. It's been two weeks, right? That's not even a factor anymore, is it? I just feel like it's been too long for AJ Brown. And I just think there's gonna be a real emphasis in this game to go to him, especially if it's Jalen Watson, a seventh round pick on him. Look at those odds right there, nine to one on the guy that will be, in my opinion, the Eagles number one target. Especially if it's a lot of man to man like the Chiefs have shown. Well, let's see what Cole has to say. Cole, you love chalk, what you got? Wow. Well, you know what? I feel like Jayne knows what he's up to right now. And I'm not mad about it either. He's a screen printing business. Yeah, with that shirt that he has on. Well, either way, I'm gonna give you a hint because 18 years ago, yesterday, February 6th, 2005, LJ Smith, he got the scoring started with a connection from a guy that's gonna be on the show in just a little bit, Donovan McNabb, Eagles Patriots Super Bowl 39. Now Smith, he spent his collegiate days in Piscataway, New Jersey, which is, oh, by the way, the home of Rutgers University. Who went there? Isaiah Pacheco. Pacheco, he's gonna look to be the 14th Scarlet Knight to earn himself a Super Bowl ring and just the second Scarlet Knight to score a Super Bowl touchdown. Yeah, 18 years. Yeah, that's been a long time. So we're gonna see it plus 900. That's a good return on investment. I know how you guys feel about it, but like I showed you, I had two watches on. I always know what time it is. We got to fail him a Pacheco jersey, I know. He's got to wear one on the show. Cole, I know the wife is here, but she can't leave you at home by yourself anymore. You came on the show and said, 18 years ago. 18 years ago. A Rutgers Scarlet Knight scored the first touchdown in the Super Bowl, so why not 18 years from now? Let's go. We're gonna run this clip back. That's a deep dive research-wise. Oh, man. One of the really fun things about betting the Super Bowl. You know this, there are a ton of unique bets that you can play that are really special for the big game. You're not gonna get them all season long, so we're gonna hit a few of those right now. We're gonna get right to it. And, Pony, this first one is for you. Team with the most net yards in the game. Let's open it up. What do you think? I always find myself wanting to go with better odds. So in this case, it's Kansas City, but I can't. I really can't. Chris Jones is gonna have to have the game of his life in order to slow down this Eagles offense, and I'm not saying he can't, and I'm not saying I'm a tiny bit worried about Hertz's shoulder injury and the lack of chemistry with the wide receivers, but no, I'm convinced the Eagles are gonna have close to 500 total yards. James, I actually hear it. You brought up something that I've actually wondered about. Everybody is focusing on Patrick Mahomes ankle, the high ankle sprain. It takes usually six weeks, at least. But when you look at Jalen Hertz and the shoulder, he's coming back through that. How much do you think the shoulder is playing a factor now? Well, so this is different, right? So we both don't know how healthy Patrick is. We both don't know how healthy Jalen Hertz is. But the shoulder is different, right? Because the shoulder, you can shoot, right? So if Jalen is feeling 80% and he's feeling really good, you can shoot that shoulder. That shot they bring out is so big, James. And it's gonna be perfect. Adrenaline, he take that shot, he ain't gonna feel nothing until that game is over. You know what I'm saying? Now with Patty, you can't shoot an ankle. And with these ankles, they linger so long, like it can be one play. Fletcher Cox could come up the middle and grab him by the ankle and roll and boom, that's just re-aggravated. And it feel like when he first did it. So that's the scary part about the ankle. Jalen hurts his shoulder. I'm fine with that because I can shoot it. The only reason why I get scared of that is if they fall on it the same way he hurt it. You know what I mean? So I'm not necessarily worried about that. I'm more worried about Patty Mahomes' ankle because at any point in the game, like you can roll that thing, twist that thing and it's back to when it first started. And you can't take nothing to really make that go away. I was just curious about, you know, how much we're making of these injuries and really where you stand on that. All right, I got another prop bet. And this one is for you, Dave. We're going over under three and a half yards gained on the first offensive play of the game. Over or under? It's going over because no matter who gets the ball, if it's the Chiefs, it'll be an eight yard pass to Kelsey. And if it's the Eagles, it'll be a five yard run by Sanders. So I think either way, I see, unless it's an incompletion, it's going over. You think the Eagles are going to average five yards to carry and lose the game? It's not about average yards to carry. It's the first play of the game. It seems like you're anticipating that the Eagles been able to run the ball effectively. I'm glad you're on the first play. I'm glad you went with a pass for Kansas City, though, to Kelsey. Eight yard pass. If the first play of the game is a run for the Chiefs, it's not going to be negative to you. I could think that the Eagles are going to run it. It's why we play the game. It's probably going to be negative two yards with that D-line amped up coming through there. Let me ask you this, JJ. Okay, another, you can bet this on the Fandals Sports Book app right now. What will happen first in the game? A sack or a touchdown? It's going to be a sack because the Chiefs is going to get the ball first. The Chiefs is going to get the ball first. It's going to be about third and seven. You know what I mean? Philly fans are going to be rocking in there and somebody's coming through there and they're going to get after Patty Mahomes and get a sack and force a play. My nerdyness pulled play by play for the last four Super Bowls. It's been a sack first before a touchdown. And these are the two top seconds. Yeah, that's because they amped up and ready to go. Eagles, 70 sacks in the regular season. We talked about this first in the league by far. Second team, 55 sacks as the Chiefs. But those 70, again, tied for most in NFL history. How many sacks did Chris Jones have this season? 15 and a half. That's all? Because I truly believe that we ain't talked about it enough and I know we got to go to break, but I want this like this can go either way. Chris Jones can either be dominant or Chris Jones' name might not be called in this game. Would you move him around? With Travis Kelsey and the guys that up front. Absolutely. I think you have to move them around because you can't leave them in front of the Hall of Famer Travis Kelsey. I mean, yeah, all game, Jason Kelsey, all game long. Like that's going to be a battle. Jason Kelsey don't give up sacks and then you don't really want to put them out there with Lane Johnson. Although he's got that. Yeah, but Lane Johnson don't give up sacks. So I would move them on the other side but this is going to be a big key in the game. Okay, you know how much I love Chris Jones. Also MVP odds right now of 40 to 1 just saying he led all defensive tackles with pass rush success rate at 21 plus percent. But this is the thing about him on more than 65% of the plays. He was double team, which doesn't even get talked about. So to have that pass rush success rate and still do that, which led the league 60. It was 60, kind of have the percentage. It was a massive percentage that he was double team and he just still did the business. And that is what I'm saying. And if Travis Kelsey is good. I mean, if Jason Kelsey is as good as he is can slow him down, this defense is in big, big trouble. We'll see. All right, great stuff by these guys. Sorry about James here guys. Just I'm gonna apologize now. Hey, coming up, we have plenty more for you here on Fatal TV is more ways to win. But first, I gotta tell you about the most anticipated kick of Super Bowl Sunday at Fandals kick of Destiny. It's for $10 million. I know you've heard all about it. 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You are watching more ways to win and we are coming in hot with some star power as we start this show off. Again, joining you from Super Bowl 57, getting you ready for the Chiefs and Eagles. We're gonna break down the game. We got props. We got everything you need to know to get you ready to bet Super Bowl Sunday. But you see who is standing here to my left, that is, TV, right? Former Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Mr. Donovan McNabb on set. Hello, hello. Hey, everybody, thank you. We're standing ovation. Thank you. Thank you. I mean, we've been talking so much off set about the matchups, about what you're up to, about what you're doing here this week, so much to get to, so we're gonna get right to it. But I'm gonna ask you about the game. I'm gonna ask you about your thoughts on everything in the matchups, of course, the quarterbacks, lots to discuss there. But tell everybody what you've been up to these days. Well, just staying busy. I mean, I think, you know, James can speak of it. When you're in weather like this, it's active. It's active with the kids. Kids are playing football all year round. I'm training quarterbacks. I'm coaching girl softball. You know, I started a club organization out here with, in which I coached two teams, 12 of you and 14 of you, travel, softball. My kids are all involved in sports, so I'm traveling with them. Being, trying to be dad and coach at the same time. But more importantly, I get a chance to spend a lot of time with family, and that's something that I definitely enjoy. All right, so we're here at Radio Row. Everybody's getting prepped for the Super Bowl. Obviously, you took the Eagles to the Super Bowl back in 05. I asked James this exact same question. I love getting your answers, because I know that such emotion comes with this week and the preps and what it was like. What are your memories of your experience back then? Well, remember, we had made it to conference titles three straight years, and so we finally felt like we got over the hump. And to get over that hump was something that was memorable, because, you know, it was something that I dreamed of. You know, our first NFC Championship game was against the St. Louis Rams at that particular time. And to play against Marshall Falk and Kurt Warner, those guys, I felt like we had them. We had them at halftime. I went in at halftime, and I just felt like I could taste, at that time, Louisiana to wear the Super Bowl. I was just kind of in my mind thinking, you're going to give me a shrimp, Pope Boy sandwich. I was already ready. And obviously, in second half, it was a lot different. And then the second time around, it was just kind of like, hey, we've been here. We know what we have to do, but we weren't able to get it done. And I think that's something that's overlooked when it comes to teams that are making it to this far because of the grind and the struggle. Everyone talks about the regular season. The regular season, to us, meant nothing because it was about how far we can go. And so to get to the Super Bowl finally, I remember landing in Jacksonville and just looking out at a window. And all I remember was videos of people who made it with their video cameras and just the hoopla, the fans outside. And we got off and all had video cameras and just recording. And it was kind of a breath of fresh air to get off that plane and know we're here at the Super Bowl. But then the long media day, which those guys went through it yesterday, was the worst. It was cold in Jacksonville. We were out there for about four hours. People were asking silly questions. And it's kind of like, what does this have to do with football? And it takes the excitement away until you get to practice. And the game, really, to be honest with you was, for me, it's always been just an opportunity to have fun. The game, to us, was played in the week. And we had a great week of practice. I thought we were going to come out outstanding. We played a great game. We just weren't able to win the game. But more importantly, the excitement of getting there and playing in the game is something I'll never forget. Donovan, you're an icon for the Eagles as far as quarterbacks go. Let's talk about Jalen Hertz. Can he get to that level? Or what do you see in him that maybe some of the same traits that you had as a QB? The funny thing is it's a similar path in which I was on. But I think something that people tend to forget was he was drafted in the second round, when no one expected him to be drafted in the second round. No one even thought he was worthy of being a second round pick. And then his rookie year, everyone thought Carson was the guy. Why are we wasting the pick on this guy? When the main thing was Carson had been hurt a lot, you need a quarterback that can come in and make plays for you and need be. But he took the pressure on himself to put extra time and effort to get himself better. And I think what helped him was the fact that he got out of the Alabama bubble, went over to Oklahoma and learned out of Lincoln Riley, was able to go in more of a spread offense, throwing the football, and then getting to the NFL was just another opportunity to get better and better. So for Jalen, this is a perfect scenario for him of where he started to get himself in this position. And I'll tell you one thing that people won't talk about. He's up for a contract. And he's up for a contract with Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert and all these guys. So he wins this Super Bowl. We gonna be talking 30, 40 million. Speaking of that, when you talk Joe Joe Burrow, everybody instantly thinks next Joe Montana time. No, no, I'm just saying, right? So for me, you are a big mentor to Jalen Hertz from this year, from last year to this year, what's the biggest thing that you've seen really change in this game to really elevate this game to turn them into the quarterback years right now? Understanding how to play with poison in the pocket. As you see, it's a comfort level when you have a reliable weapon on the outside. Knowing that AJ Brown came in, Devonte Smith was already emerging. Now Dallas Guider is becoming one of those tight end you guys as their fraternity now. But he's a Kiddles, he's a Kelsey, he's Waller, like one of those guys. And then Miles Sanders game evolving. So now when you have those pieces around you, that sitting in the pocket level where I could check it down, I can go to my second, third read, I still have time. He's now starting to get comfortable in that sense. And so the progression of a quarterback is seeing a little bit of how fast it is in your first year. Your second year, you're starting to see the field a little bit more. Your third year is now, I can make this pass on time. I can let the ball go before it comes out of his break. Your fourth year, all of a sudden, everything starts to flow. And so he's now in his third season and he's playing the way you would think those other guys would play. And he's put himself on that same wavelength. So you're putting him in, because everybody ain't putting him in the category with Joe Burrow and Josh Allen and the boys. Just keeping it 100. So you saying he in that category. Patty Bones. So you put them in that category. So everyone wants to go in tiers. I don't go in tiers, because you measure quarterbacks by wins and losses. And so when you look at those quarterbacks that are in that class of winning quarterbacks, I would put him in that tier with the Patrick Mahomes, the Joe Burrows or what we see. I don't know if I can go as far as putting Justin Herbert in that category right now, because Justin hasn't won in the playoffs. And so it says something to me of where he's at in the trajectory he's on. Because if we're gonna start talking a little bit, Joe Burrow in that sense of whatever, we gotta start now moving him in that category where it's like that second tier if they wanna call it with Patrick Mahomes at the top. This is surreal to me, because you were my favorite player growing up. My first jersey was your number five Syracuse jersey. Syracuse. Donovan. I'm a Syracuse guy. Does that make us feel old? You know what I'm saying? Donovan. You do not mean old? You see how I put us. Donovan, I stormed the field the first time I broke the law. And Virginia Tech? Virginia Tech. Stephen Brominsky, I was on the field as a 12 year old. Thrilled the lifetime. See through the 80s, see through the 80s. I tip my cap, that was one of the great games. I appreciate that. And that was memorable because my mom actually jumped over the rail with Bob Conrad's mom. Pony was right there with him. It got on the field. Right there with him. And I'm like, man, mom showed a little bit of athleticism getting over there. Where do you think you got it from? You know she already did. I mean, you know. She'll let you know too. 100%. But it's funny you bring that up because the journey, the path. You know, we talk Jalen Hertz. It's like coming from the Syracuse offense when we ran the option early on, we started to open the offense up. My junior senior year, getting drafted second overall where people were like, oh, boo, you know. And now the journey, each and every year of getting better and getting comfortable in the pocket. And that's where I see Jalen. That's exactly where I see Jalen and continuing to grow. Now the issue a lot of times that you can talk about this, you make the Super Bowl. That following year, everyone thinks they're a star. You know, all of a sudden guys got websites. Now with social media being big, everybody's all on social media promoting something. Can they continue to stay focused in the next year going forward? But that's what I think is different about Jalen. Jalen. I'm not saying him. No, no, no, but I'm just saying he's such a great leader. Y'all don't read y'all press clippings, bro. We ain't done nothing. Even after we won the Super Bowl or if they do win, that's just how he built. But that's his intention. That's another part that no one wants to talk about because we want to highlight that for other people. But when it comes to him being able to galvanize the troops, he's got everybody in that locker room on one accord. Hey, we won the NFC championship. That's great, but we're not done. That's something to be said. We're not going back to both quarterbacks because it's Sunday's historic in a couple of different ways, right? It's the youngest combined age of quarterbacks to start in a Super Bowl. Jalen sitting there at 24, Patty Mahone's 27. These are kids when we talk about feeling old, right? It's also the first time we'll see two black quarterbacks starting and playing against each other in the Super Bowl. You know, all the different networks are putting montages together and graphics and your faces right there. And a great representation of quarterbacks who've done amazing things in this league. So I would love your take on the history we're about to see on Sunday. Well, you know, I look at it in a sense of where we are as far as sports with the youth. I won't go so much of this particular game with these two individuals, but what it does, it creates a little bit of anxiousness and as it creates a little bit of joy for middle school quarterbacks, it creates that I can't, yes I can, from high school quarterbacks. It creates the, I'm gonna put some extra time in, watch some extra film, work on my craft. This can happen from college quarterbacks because it opens the door of no longer of you're not smart enough, you're not big enough, you're not accurate enough. Well, you come from a option offense, so you're not gonna be able to learn how to read the field from a spread offense because what we're seeing now is we're seeing those opportunities being granted because I had this conversation in the ACC award ceremony and I said, every college team has one of us. And when I say one of us, that means an athletic quarterback who can not only use his legs, but also can read the field and throw the ball with accuracy. Every recruiter in college goes out to recruit a Donovan McNabb or Jaylen Hertz or Patrick Mahomes. And so the opportunity will be given as we continue to go along, but we have to talk about it more so it becomes more of a routine thing instead of a shock. If you could see it, you know, I can do it. You can go out and do it. You and I are gonna be back together on Friday. I'm hosting the Fandle Party. You are gonna be facing off in the Connect for Basketball Challenge, the Celebrity Challenge. There's some bricks on it. That's right. Jay Jay pointing the arc in on it. He's a dual front guy, he played Pal-Tut. Thank you, thank you. I'm so glad you sit on it. Cause I was waiting on Jay's to make a comment. It's okay, hey, the jump shot stayed. I'm trying to figure out, I really want to figure out how I wasn't in that, Lisa. See, you ain't seen my jump shot yet. I'm flicking the wrist. Yeah. We should have teamed up to go against that. Hey, no, no, you don't want to do that. No, buddy, no, no. Listen, listen, don't let the size fool you. The jump shot stays wet. Okay. It stays wet. I'll tell you, I'm the Steph Curry before Steph Curry. Amazing, amazing. Donovan McNabb, everybody, he's here with us on our more ways to win set. He's going to be back with us for the Fandal Party on Friday night. You're the best. Thanks for being here. Thanks for having me, I really appreciate it. All right, moving on here. Great insight there from Donovan McNabb. We have another great guest coming up later on the more ways to win show, Pro Bowl wide receiver Amon Ross St. Brown. We'll be right here with us on set. We're asking the Detroit Lion for his thoughts on this Super Bowl matchup. And of course we'll be getting his big winner. That's Pro Bowl wide receiver Amon Ross St. Brown coming up on more ways to win in just a few minutes. And we're going to be here all week long. We've been saying this all week already with all the usual stuff. So we've got jokes, bets, laughs, the whole thing. Yes, more ways to win coming to you from Super Bowl all week long, leading you right up to kick off on Sunday. Check out the showtimes. We put together a very fancy graphic to show you exactly when and where to find us. So make sure to check us out each day on Fandal TV for great betting content, special appearances from current and former players. Here all week, everybody. We'll be right back after a quick break. Welcome back to Fandal TV's more ways to win hanging all week long here on Radio Row in Phoenix, Arizona. We're getting you ready to bet Super Bowl 57 and the line on this one has been holding. Eagles still giving one and a half to Kansas City. My chiefs this matchup features the youngest combined age of quarterbacks in Super Bowl history, both Jalen Hertz and Patrick Mahomes have proven they can absolutely thrive under pressure. Guys, this is a tight window sitting there at one and a half. Let's go ahead and bet this spread. Dave, you're up first, what you got? Yeah, so these guys keep talking about the fact that the chiefs are not gonna win the game and the reason that they're not is because their defense isn't gonna be able to stop what the Eagles are gonna do on the ground. But when you look at the chiefs' defense against the rush, and keep in mind, the Eagles scored four touchdowns in the ground in their last game. But the Eagles have allowed the sixth least amount of touchdowns on the, I mean, sorry, the chief's defense has allowed the sixth least amount of touchdowns on the ground. So it hasn't been that easy to get it in the end zone on the ground against the chiefs. So I'm confident that the Eagles are not gonna get 500 yards of total offense and that the chief's defense is gonna step up their game in this one. We've seen some games this year where they've been really bad, but we've seen some games where their defense has really surprised some people. And I have confidence that they can keep Philly to maybe somewhere in the high 200s as far as total yards, not 500. Go ahead, James. Just go, J.J. Oh, the only thing that scares me, and I'm a fan of this chief's defense. I'm a fan of Chris Jones getting after the passer. Those young cornerbacks, they've been forced to play man-to-man coverage and they have done really, really well. You know, when they gotta make a play, they make a play, whether it's a tackle, whether it's an interception, they make the play. You just haven't dealt with a guy like Jalen Hertz that's able to utilize his legs. I was watching TV last night before I went to bed and they were showing, they were showing some run plays of the Niners game. And Fred Warner was lost. And he was lost at the middle linebacker because when they run to read option, he frozen because is he gonna keep it or is he gonna hand it? And he's a great player. And that split second is a hand on Miles Sanders gone or he's keeping it tough. You know, I think for me, we know what Steve Spagno, the chief's defensive coordinator is. He wants to get pressure with four. He doesn't want to blitz. He wants to have that defensive line get there like he did with the Giants against the Patriots when they were undefeated in Super Bowl 42. So if that doesn't work, if the Eagles offensive line, which I think is one of the best in the league, if they dominate that matchup, I think they'll easily cover. I want to know one and a half. I want to know like an alternate spread up to nine and a half least. I want to know if we could get this stat to where somebody rushing four on the Eagles offensive line and they got some sacks. I got to get to Cole. Cole, get in here. It's the line sitting there at one and a half. What are you thinking about this chief's Eagles matchup and that spread? Well, Kansas City, the defense has been seen they usually play to the competition. I don't know if that's going to be a good thing or a bad thing. Hopefully for Andy Reed and company, it will be a good thing because the close games, that's what Patrick Mahomes and company do in the playoffs. Their last four contests in the postseason, one score ball games and like we said earlier, Kansas City, they allowed 23 or more points 10 times this season. They're going to make it 11 times, but it won't matter because they're going to be the better team offensively. 10 and three in the playoffs, Patrick Mahomes is, he's going to lock up that 11th postseason W. He'd be the best to do it under the age of 27 years old for six seasons. So I'm going with Kansas City covering this one. There you go. And listen in a pony. Hey, Steve Spagnolo has a system. Every better also has a system to place bets. Thanks guys. We want to remind you at home to make Fandals responsible gaming tools a key part of yours to learn more about time, wager and deposit limits. Visit Fandal.com slash play well. You're watching Fandal TV's more ways to win. We will be back after a quick break. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to more ways to win here from radio row. Getting you ready for Super Bowl 57 here in Phoenix, Arizona. We're breaking down the big game. We're getting to everything you need to know. But right now I want to welcome in a big time baller and special guest to the more ways to win. Set Pro Bowl Lions wide receiver, Amon Ross, St. Brown joining us. Amon Ross, awesome to have you with us. Thank you. Of course, we're going to get to your pick of the game break down the match up and all that good stuff. But you had a big weekend. Congratulations on your Pro Bowl nod. You're a captain. You won the best cash competition. Take us through the weekend. How was it? It was fun. It was a lot of fun. It was more relaxed than I thought it would be. I got in on a Tuesday night. Game wasn't until Sunday. So first few days, didn't do much. Did the best catch on Wednesday. Did the flip in the pool. That was fun. Kind of cold in Vegas, but it is what it is. And then won that competition to go to the best catch finals on Sunday. We had a little practice walkthrough on Saturday with the wristband, the plays and whatnot. And then Sunday was the flag game. Family was there. Friends were there. Did the best catch thing. Won that. Obviously, Stefan didn't really catch any balls. So it wasn't really a competition. But if he would have caught some, I feel like it would have been more even. But it was a lot of fun to be out there with all the guys, all the top dogs, just to run some routes. Haven't played flag in a long time since I was a kid. So I did the 7-on-7 in high school and whatnot, but haven't played flag in a long time. So it was a lot of fun. But that's great because I think there was a lot of question marks. James, you and I talked about it as well. Like, well, this is such a departure from real football. Like this flag is not football. It is a completely different game. So it's great to say that the players had a lot of fun. What's your one biggest memory, greatest memory that came out of the weekend? That's a good question. I would say my favorite memory, I would say just being around all the guys. A lot of the guys that maybe I watched when I was a kid growing up. Some of the guys that came in with me. Guys that you watch around the league. You don't get to play every team every year. So there's some guys that I never got to watch play. So to be all out there on the field at the same time was a lot of fun, definitely. But you're Pete Davidson tattoo. You'll talk with you forever. Tell me that's not real. That's off now. It's gone, yeah. That was so good. Well played. Awesome. Congratulations. Thank you so much. I know Tony's got a question. One of the subplots is that it's a Kelsey bowl. You've got brothers in the Super Bowl. And you've got brothers who are wide receivers and great football players. Could you imagine getting to this spot, win or take all? And it's you against one of your brothers. What would that be like for you and your family? I feel like that would be the ultimate celebration. When I play against my brother every year, I'm lucky enough to play him twice since he's in my division. All my family comes out, everyone comes and watches because as kids, growing up to be in the NFL at the same time, play each other, it's always been like a dream. And so when I play with my brother, it's always super fun. I always have a lot of fun. We go to dinner the night before and whatnot. So I can't imagine being in a Super Bowl, the biggest game of your life, playing against your brother. I know the Kelsey brothers are having the time of their life. And they deserve it. Two awesome players. But it would be the pinnacle of everything for me. Now, when they said you was coming on the show, I was about to pull myself from the show because you put my packers out of the playoffs, man. Go on the Lambo, Phil Beatmuss, you know what I mean? But congrats. But I got two little boys, right? They 9 and 11. And if both of them were playing in the Super Bowl against each other, I know who I would want to win. I love them the same. I do. But I know my oldest can handle it a little better. He'll go up to his little brother and he'll say, little bro, congrats, man. I'm happy for you. Keep that jersey so we can exchange. My youngest son, he going to run off and say, F, F, everybody. So I know I want to win. Who would handle it better out of the brothers? I know you, competitor, you're going to be in the game. You're going to win. But who do you think would handle it better? Shoot, I would like to say he would handle it better. But I feel like we'd both handle it pretty well. But I'm super competitive like your youngest son. If I'm in the Super Bowl, I got to win it. I have to, especially against my brother. But I have the nod over him right now in the head to head. So I would feel like he would handle it better than me. But you never know. He's also super competitive. He hates losing. And real quick, you've got a quarterback and Jared Gough over there, and you still got quarterback talks out there. Here is the Lions going draft one. They going to bring one in in free agency. Is Jared Gough the guy that can get y'all to this game? He's the guy. I don't know if you watched last year. But I feel like he quieted a lot of the noise from the year before. Made the Pro Bowl. Some guys dropped out and whatnot. But Pro Bowl quarterback, I think the craziest thing to me what he did last year was he, I don't think he threw a pick in the last, I don't know how many games it was. But it was at least like eight, nine games where he didn't throw a pick, took care of the ball. I think that's the reason why we were so successful. Those last 10 games, I think we went eight and two. I only lost two games. And he's really, he's part of the reason why we won all those games. He took care of the ball, made great decisions, commanding the offense every week. His preparation really, it just, it showed up and it paid off for us. Every year when the year starts, a lot of the pundits out there have the Lions win three or four games. I think that's changed with the way you guys finished off the year this year. I think a lot of people are going to consider you a playoff threat next year. Do you think that you guys are really that up and coming team right now in the NFL? Yeah, I definitely think we have a legitimate shot being the playoffs. Obviously, as a team, we feel like we could have made the playoffs last year. Obviously, some things fell short for us. But next year, I feel like we want more than just a playoff, just to make the playoffs. We want to win games in the playoffs, hopefully go to the conference championship and whatnot. But we definitely feel like we're easily capable of making the playoffs next year with the guys that we have on our team, the draft coming up, some free agent moves that we might make. So I'm excited for it. And your head coach, Dan Campbell's got the fire. I love the videos that come out. He is like press conference. I love it. All right, let's talk about these past catchers, because we've got some incredible talent coming out us on Sunday. AJ Brown, Gavante Smith, Travis Kelsey, you name the guy that's going to have the biggest game on Sunday. Who do you think it'll be? Ooh, the biggest game. I think Kelsey's the best tight end ever, in my opinion. We're just watching him play, see what he does. The one that's going to have the biggest game. I'm going to go, AJ Brown. There you go. So we know who you're taking away. I know you started off good. I was about to wrap up this segment that Travis Kelsey thinks it's a lot of room. No, no, no. That's awesome. What we're excited about to see, we always want a great game, a great matchup. Give us some good football to the very end. And I think that's what we're going to get. But you know, AJ Brown's probably going to get it. We can't let him leave, though. Who you got? Who you taking in this one, right? I told you. Yeah, I know you did. I got the Eagles. You got the Eagles. I got the Eagles. NFC, you got Ryland fans. NFC, you already know. All right. Anything else you got to share with us for this week? That's it, man. I'm excited. Excited to watch the game. Excited to be here. It's going to be a lot of fun. I'm on our same frown, joining us. Detroit Lions, you have a great season. Love seeing you. Thanks for being here with us. All the best as you move on to next season. Thank you so much. You're up to great work. Appreciate it. All right. Let's move on here on Fandall TV's More Ways to Win. We're back with more fun Super Bowl bets after a quick break. Welcome back to More Ways to Win. And yes, we're getting you ready for Super Bowl 57. But we're also getting you prepped for the kick of Destiny coming at you live in the third quarter of the Super Bowl on Sunday. Gronk himself is kicking the kick of Destiny in that third quarter. You can get a share of $10 million in bonus bets. So guys, I got to bring you into this. When we've been talking about it for weeks now, Gronk is going to kick the kick from 25 yards out. You guys could make that kick? No. No. I'm making it. Not in that situation with all eyes on me, James. Too much pressure. They got the fan experience here. We could go try it ourselves. We could go try it, but I mean, I'm going to get out there. And I'm going to try to kick it as hard as I can. And it's going to go Y right. But this is live. The pressure is going to be insane. But he'll make it. He definitely ain't making it. He's making it. Definitely not. He's going to shame me. I got more confidence. I have a lot of confidence too. Hey, we have confidence in you to join us the rest of the week as well. We're going to be here in Phoenix all week long, leading up to Super Bowl Sunday. We're going to take you there. And then we're going to tell you how to bet it. The Chiefs, it's the Eagles, it's you, and it's us. We'll see you right back here tomorrow. Have a great day, everybody.