 Hey everyone, welcome back to the Nintendo Prime Podcast, episode 90, I am your host with the most Nathan DeWinful Jants, joined as always by Eric Moore. Now, couple cool things going on to this time. First off, I need to say sorry, there was an unscheduled non-podcast last week. My bad I'm not warning, especially our patrons that pay for this podcast to be every week. I apologize directly to you guys for not saying anything, but hopefully you understand why we had the betting special punishment go down kind of instead. I know you guys didn't get early access to that, it just went up when it got done. It's been a hectic week, but hey, you know what? You guys seem to enjoy that video, it got about the same amount of views as a normal podcast gets anyway, so I guess it kind of replaced the podcast episode anyways. So that was your podcast for this week, was Eric fulfilling the punishment of the betting special. For those that did not catch the game awards betting special, it's okay if you don't go back and watch it. I mean, you kind of want to verify everything, but yeah, I won the betting special by two questions and you guys got crushed, so. They lost to me by one, you'd buy three. Exactly, they got crushed. In our world, that's a crushing, in our world, us winning by two questions is a crushing. The first game award special we ever did, I destroyed you. I think I just knew more about gaming at the time. Yeah. That was probably it, because that was early podcast days when you were just starting to get back into gaming. And then the second game awards, infamously, I won the following day. It was literally that close, one point battle, and I won on one award that wasn't announced till the next day. And then this year, it was actually really, really tight, like if you were watching our live stream of it, it was really tight. Up until the last two awards. Like literally the last two awards are what decided it. And it was really only one of them, because the game of the year, we both had the same game of the year. And I had a mulligan from James for an extra one. So there was no way you could gain a point on me on the last one. So it was really the second to last question. Once I got that one right, it was like, oh, that's over. It doesn't matter what happens in the last one. So but still, the fact that came down to the final two was like, man, of course it did. It wouldn't be a game awards betting special if it wasn't like right down to the wire. Or if I would have trusted my gut, then the one question, I would have actually been one point closer. But I know, I know, I know, but he didn't. Anyways, that being said, so he had a run around the block wearing some shorts. It was originally a swimsuit. I didn't hold you to it. I said, you know what, close enough. Might have been some underwear under there, extra protection. I thought about, I was thinking about this as I was editing, like technically we said swimsuit. He didn't perform it in the swimsuit. Do I force him to redo it on a technicality? Because you know me. Oh yeah. You know me. Technicality. You didn't perform the punishment. Yeah. But I'm like, you know what, I let it go just because one, shorts are pretty much the same. I mean, when I go swimming, I just wear shorts. But I probably would not have put on underwear to be fair. I don't wear underwear when I swim. I just didn't want anything to fall out. And two, didn't even to fall out. Yeah. Tie those strings up, maybe. Yeah. And then two, he was kind of huffing and puffing for quite a while after. Yeah, I was. One, because you know, he's just out of shape. He's really out of shape. I'm round. I am in shape. It's just round. Rotund. Yes. And then he just had a hard time kind of catching his breath the rest of the day. Better now. Yeah. Not 100%. Yeah. No. I'm still hacking up along every one so long. But you know, time to work out. It is what it is. Yeah. I know. Anyways, come on. Take the Nintendo Prime workout challenge. Right now it's at 60 push-ups and 60 sit-ups a day. Yeah. And if you can't do the sit-ups because you're back to crunches or something. Yeah. Anyways, actually you can do a whole bunch of crap that I can't do because of my knees. Yeah. So you can do a leg lift or whatever you want to do. Yeah. Take the challenge, Eric. Yeah. I should challenge you. I'm literally doing that every single day. Well, from like a few days back until January, one that resets to whatever the new workout is after I get my knee scan. So. Mm-hmm. Whew. Come on, Eric. Step onto the plate. I'm trying to encourage you, man. I know. I know. Because we're both people that like we need that encouragement. Yeah. I know. Yeah. Because we'll do good on our own for a little while. You were doing really good on your own for a little while. Mm-hmm. And then it just always goes to crap. Because crap happens in life. Yeah, great. It's once I stop going it's like it just never happens again. Yeah. It's the same truth for me. And I've tried a zillion diets. And I know how to lose weight, guys. I know the kind of workouts to do. I know what to eat. And that's not the problem. That's motivation. And that may just really like food. Well, I mean, obviously, everyone likes food. I, yeah. The issue, like for me, I don't know if I learned this a long time ago. The issue isn't always like liking food. It's portion size. No, there's that. Eat whatever you want. Make the portion size one. And then you're like, but I'm hungry. But yes, you are. But eventually you won't be. Yeah, I know. Your stomach won't be stretched out to forever. It does actually retract back in a little bit. Anyways, that being said, we're back. And another change besides missing a week, although I think you guys were pretty well rewarded with that video. By the way, undefeated champion. Never lost a buddy, especially yet. Yeah. Only a live stream bet, which, I mean, I lost at a game or something. It happens. I mean, surprise, surprise, I lost at a game. Yeah. As you guys might have seen in my Super Smash Bros. streams, I really, really suck at Smash Bros. I don't think I've ever live streamed a video game where I looked like I was good at that video game. I'm trying to think, like us when we streamed Overcooked was probably the best I looked as a gamer. And even then, it wasn't that good. Like rest of the while, like, oh, you're a Zelda guy. I'm like, sure, I looked good in that E3 footage in 2016 because nobody else or everyone else in the show floor was sucking. Yeah. And I got to play the demo way more than everyone else. Yeah, right. But the thing is, when you actually watch me play Breath of the Wild, I'm not that good. Yeah. I still haven't legit been aligned. I mean, this was, this was how bad it was. We had to turn one full filming into, how many ways can we kill Link? Well, that was because I was trying to get to, I was trying to get to a shrine. Yeah. Or I thought, because see, I visited every single shrine one time. But I was trying, but I didn't have any of it, a lot of it on footage. So I was trying to get to the one shrine that there wasn't a lot of footage of in the snow area. And I went to the wrong part. And I remember, like nowadays, yeah, I know where it is. But back then, you know, you're so overwhelmed by everything going on at E3. Even though I played it a zillion times over three days. It's kind of like, yeah, but you don't exactly have everything memorized. So I thought I was going to where I was going. And instead I ended up going to the highest peak. And when I got to the top, I realized, oh crap. Well, the time was on the stumble for anything else. Let's see how many ways I could die. And it was basically, it was how many ways my hearts go away in the middle of the snow. I mean, I jumped off the cliff a few times, let some enemies hit me. But it could have been more entertaining if I had planned to do that from the beginning. How many ways can I kill Link in 15 minutes? Yeah, that would have been cool. That would have been cool. But I see in hindsight, I don't think that's what I should have done. So screw it, but whatever. I mean, it did make the person who was working laugh very unsolved. Well, they were laughing with me just trying to get up there without clothes on. Because I was doing a naked run in the snow. So you know, you die, but it doesn't take you all the way back. It only takes you a little bit back. So you make a little bit of progress every time. And that's what I was doing to try to get to the shrine. Because I figured I could beat the shrine really quick, but it didn't happen. Anyways, so I'm bad at video games. I mean, that's the general dish to the story. I suck at video games, but I love them and I play the hell out of them. There are some games I'm pretty good at. But as a father of three now, I don't get to put in the kind of practice I once did. That being said, it's hammer time. I don't know why, but that is beginning of the notes for the podcast. Our first topic is actually about the game awards that happened last week. Just some things to talk about. For starters, forget the betting special. How do you feel about the game awards? Especially compared to years past. They're good. A lot better than years past. Better than years past. I still think they have room for improvement. What parts did you really enjoy? Oh, gosh. I did like the music. Some of the band... I thought the music was... There was like one I didn't understand. But I think it was actually in a game. Yeah, I think it was a game tie-in, but it was just because I didn't recognize it. It doesn't mean it doesn't belong. Right, but I don't know. I liked the orchestra. The orchestra was really good. Oh, I liked the orchestra. And now they have a theme. Now they have a new theme for it. We'll probably hear it next year. Right, right, right. You know, with Red Dead winning the music stuff, it didn't impress me all that much. Oh, when they played it? Yeah, the song that they chose... Here's the thing. It's a good song for a performance purpose. Having listened to a little bit of the Red Dead 2 soundtrack since the Game Awards, I'm like, there was a lot of better songs they chose for an audience. It was just a little bit more long and drawn out. It was just like... Oh, it's one of those songs that's good in the background of the video game. Right, right. Of course it is. But there were more epic tracks that they could have chosen that would have fit an actual live performance. But whatever, I'm sure it was totally up to the people who were in charge of the music and that's what they wanted to play. Maybe they have a big affinity for that song. Yeah. I'm trying to think of what else there were. That you really enjoyed? You enjoyed any of the actual awards? I mean, that's always the thing coming out of it. Do people care about the actual awards? I know that it's very controversial, but I was laughing with Sonic Fox. Sonic Fox. I mean... You were busier than I got. I wasn't even in the room. I was. And you were just... I'm like, what is he laughing so hard on? Yeah. Yeah. A political joke. I mean, I'm not the biggest political person. I hate politics, but I thought it was funny. I mean, you guys all know what happened, right? You know, I'm not going to say what exactly he said, but he basically poached 100 Republicans, which, I mean... If he wouldn't have went the other way, if he wouldn't have went the other way, I would still have left myself either way. I thought it was funny as hell. Well, he's weird, though, because, like, he was basically on stereotypes, which, I mean... Right, right. You know, and to me, this is why that moment became kind of controversial. It wasn't like there's not some precedent for what he said, but summarizing, you know, half of the country, or whatever it is. Yeah. Maybe it's 35%, whatever it is. Yeah. Of the country that votes as, like, being these very, very generally bad things. Right. I just thought, was, man, I get, like, maybe it was a joke, but then you would go to him on Twitter and, like, he's very serious about it. Like, he's very, very staunch on the left. Yeah. And absolutely hates the right. And then the thing is, like, I'm kind of like, I don't want to say I'm a centrist, but I don't really fit into a specific political party. Yeah. Like, when I vote, it's all over the place. I vote for the people that are going to actually do the things that I care about. Right. It doesn't really matter to me if they're Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, equestrian, or whatever. Right, yeah. Whatever they are. It doesn't really matter. I pay attention more to the things they are trying to do that actually affect my life. And you might be like, oh, you've got to worry about the lives of others. I understand that, but in a lot of cases, I don't know what will help the lives of others because I'm not living their life. Right. Now you can talk about, oh, what about the bigotry and the racism? That's fine. I'm not saying that it's fine for it to happen, but what do you expect me? I can't fix it, you know? So I'm worried about the policies being made. Are the policies being made going to be bigotry and racist? Probably not. Not like they're going to come out with a bill on the floor of the Senate that's going to be all, oh, everyone gets his benefit, but this group of people. Yeah. Unless it's the rich versus the poor. That's a whole other thing. Yeah. So it's just, I thought it was a funny moment, but I think what made me kind of pause on if this is the correct venue for it, and I get that like, I don't want to say he represents gamers, but he represents a segment of gamers. Yeah. Is 26 million people watch this? 26 million. More than double the audience of last year. Someone was noting that, oh, it's bigger than the Oscars. Not really. The Oscars are broadcasted worldwide. It's almost bigger than the Oscars in just the U.S., but that 26 million was worldwide numbers. So it's not even close. The Oscars still gets like over 100 million viewers. Worldwide. It used to be billion, by the way, so Oscars is actually really sunk down in the national spotlight. It's become more and more like the American audience isn't anyone's tune in every time. Wow. But whatever. Yeah. I just, I think there is something to say when it comes to the politically charged stuff. When you have an audience of 26 million, and I don't know what Jeff can do. Yeah. Because it's live. You can't tell people what to say. You could try to suggest, please don't really say this, don't do this, but the bottom line is if they didn't want that, they would have never had Sonic Fox up for voting in the first place. Right. Because this isn't like it's the first politically charged thing he's ever said. Right. If you go through his Twitter anyways, I don't know Sonic Fox, by the way. Yeah. I mean, I voted for him, so thanks for the point, right? But I didn't vote for him like on the game awards. I voted for him as I thought he would win. Yeah. I don't, I just don't know, I don't know what to really do about it. I don't think you can't remove, what I've actually learned, okay, is, because you know what, Nintendo Prime, you guys know, we don't really allow political conversations to happen, especially if it involves, and you guys could say, oh, it's, you're just trying to silence people. If it involves like live streams, and you guys talking in the live stream, because to say, I say one thing, that maybe, like this topic, this topic here is an example, obviously politically related. Yeah. I will be shutting down all the politic conversation. And people are like, what? I'm like, I'm not trying to shut down your viewpoints. I shut it down across the board. I don't care who you are. Yeah. And the reason for it is, people are so impassioned, like Sonic Fox, into their beliefs, when it comes to politics, that people just butt heads to butt heads. Yeah. They might even not fundamentally disagree. Like there are plenty of Republicans that aren't the things he said. Right. And they don't fundamentally disagree that those things are wrong, but they feel insulted being grouped in with the ones that do. And the thing is, there's ones on the left that do too. So it's not even like a, I think a lot of it, and I said this at the time, a lot of it just had to do with, with kind of the rise of the current president and like the audience he kind of hit with. Yeah, you had the normal, you had like, I don't want to say the normal, but usually you're staunch Republicans, and then you had like those people that usually don't vote, but kind of believe in some of the Republican values, but are also severely, against the gays and all that stuff. And they also voted for Trump, because Trump kind of, I want to be careful saying that our president was racist. I don't know Donald Trump, but I can safely say he ran on a platform that encouraged that kind of behavior, or definitely didn't discourage it. Yes. And that led to him getting more votes from people who normally don't show up to vote. So, and in some ways, I think it was almost good, because it kind of exposed how far away our country is from solving some of these issues. And I understand like, I'm a Roman Catholic, so I'm supposed to be against gay. Or gay is okay as long as you don't get married, or whatever, whatever. I don't even know the, I think the official Catholic church dance is like, you can be with another man, but not sexually, and not in marriage, because you can't have, at Roman Catholic Church, you can't have sex unless you're married. So if they don't allow you to get married, then obviously you can't have sex, but you can still have a relationship, you can kiss, whatever. That's kind of like the official stance, but just because I'm a Roman Catholic doesn't mean that I agree with that, you know? It's kind of like, and usually because I don't agree with it, then you're not supposed to get the Eucharist. It's like, here's the thing. I'm never, there's not any religion, any group, any political spot that I ever fully agree with. Exactly. No one has it all figured out. Bernie Sanders did not have it all figured out. Hillary Clinton did not have it all figured out. Donald Trump definitely does not have it all figured out. No one has it all figured out. We talked about it a lot, actually, heading into this last election, like you were voting, you know, for the two most likely to win candidates, if you were, oh, I don't want to throw my board to the third party, because I think it's a waste of vote. I don't think it's a waste of vote, because I think if enough of us do it, eventually a third party can win. It's not going to happen now. It's not going to happen in the next election. But you're talking over time. By the time I'm ancient, there might actually be a shot if more and more people keep doing it. But... If more and more people got sick of the BS and... I mean, it's probably only going to happen when a political party family splits. Yeah. Oh, for sure. Which could happen someday. But it's just an interesting situation to be in. And I was saying at the time, like, I don't know that there's... It's almost like if you only want to vote for Republican or Democrat, I felt like I was voting between which is the lesser of two evils. And it wasn't because I think Hillary Clinton is terrible or I think Donald Trump is terrible. It's that what they're trying to do to fix the country, I don't agree with either of them. So I don't agree with either of them. By the way, I didn't vote for either of them. So... And that was my thing. I lived by my word. I said I was going to vote third party. I voted third party. I voted for the candidate that I thought would do the best job. That's what you're supposed to do. Party loyalty shouldn't matter. You should be voting for the candidate you think is going to do the best job. And in this case, I just... Yeah, I don't know. I thought it was funny. It was funny, but I think... I hear the thing. I think for like you, the reason you busted your gut and I don't... Again, politics suck. Yeah, right. I will say a lot of jokes you share with me rip on Republicans. Yeah. A lot of them. Like, my parents are staunch Republicans and I'll rip on them. They'll rip on me back. It's pretty easy to rip on me. You guys have seen him rip on me. My fiance do it. But it's one of those things that I knew you busted a gut because of your more left-leaning political beliefs and how, obviously, the way that Trump rose up and kind of the generalizations... Like, the generalizations he stated are out there. They're floating around. Yeah. But... Like I said, a lot of leftists... It was the other way too. A lot of Republicans saw those remarks and they ain't laughing. They're pissed that they got even grouped in with that stuff. So it's kind of like... I just sat there and kind of like, it's funny because of the generalizations, but generalizations suck. No, I know. And the thing is, I think you just made it worse on Twitter, to be honest. That's definitely a possibility. And by the way, I doubt you watch our content, but if you did, I don't have anything against you, man. Believe what you want to believe. Enjoy your life. I just don't believe in having to force... force your generalizations like they're... like it's a 100% fact, right? Like, sure, a lot of Republicans are a certain way, but not all of them. My dad's not that way. My dad's a staunch Roman Catholic. He's not against gay marriage. He thinks the church is wrong. But, you know, what are you... What are you gonna do? You know, he's not like, he has the power to change that. He makes it known, and that's the end of that. So, I don't know. Besides that, other things that the game awards that I... Let me see. I basically enjoyed... I think this is the best game awards for handing out awards yet. None of them were handed out during commercial breaks. Yeah. And by the way, Jeff Kealy, thank you so much for actually making the commercial breaks a lot smaller and seem a lot less sponsored. It was basically game trailers and then the truth ads. And that was fine. And you only had, what, like six instances of that in three hours. That's not that bad. That's awesome. And you need... Sometimes it's not just people paying for the ad space. You need that time to change things up on stage. Yeah, yeah, sure. Performance and stuff. Like, you need those breaks to be more natural feelings. Yeah. So, that didn't bother me. I was actually fine with that. I know some people wasn't sure about the truth ads. And I'm like, yeah, no one knows that that really hits with the youth. But, I mean, they're trying. I don't know that I could have did any better. That's better than nothing. Yeah, I mean, they could have just not tried at all. Well, I shouldn't say that. But... Yeah. But, yeah, I think... I think in general, the actual awards, see, I'm one of those rare people. I don't... Like, I don't want to say I don't care about the announcements at the game awards. But the awards matter more to me. I know everyone gets hyped. Like, oh, we're gonna see Metroid Prime 4. Oh, we're gonna see this. Oh, we're gonna see that. Yeah. Or I'm only watching for the announcements. I get that. I get that's why a lot of you tune in. But just like the Oscars, just like the Emmys, I assume this is gonna win. I don't care about the performances or the announcements or the new movie trailers or whatever they want to show. Yeah. I care about who's gonna win because especially if it's a category where I played everything. And I'm like, okay, I have some strong thoughts on this. So, let's go. I didn't know who was gonna win the game of the year. I kind of assumed it was gonna be Red Dead. I don't think it got a war. I was very shocked that it was got a war and not Red Dead, especially as Red Dead won, I think one or two more awards overall than... It won basically everything except for, I think, one. No, got a war won two awards. One category that it was. Got a war won three total awards. And I think at the time... But I don't think... I think Red Dead had won three and got a war won two heading into the game of the year award. They might have actually tied. Because the second... Like when got a war won one award, the second award was also announced at that same time. That was... They were the one of the two companies, it was them and I think Fortnight they went up. They both got two awards at the same time. Which to me is fine. That's a way to quicken the pace a bit. Like if you're like, oh, this game won multiple awards. I mean, they didn't do it with Red Dead, but Red Dead's awards were more spread out. Yeah. Did they need to be more spread out? I don't know. But I think sometimes, it might not even been planned to be that way. It might have just been, oh, look at the time. Or we can quickly remain on two awards right now instead of dragging them down. But I like the awards, man. Yeah. And I kind of like how Jeff does it. One, he lets the public have a say. Yeah, we only count for 10% of the vote in total. But that's probably not a bad thing. I don't think fans should count for 100% of the vote anyways. No. Because fans are fanboys. Massive fanboys. And we're going to just keep voting for our favorites. Even like as an example, like if that traveler might have won an award, if fans voted. But did it deserve to win one over all the other games? I don't know. He could argue his own track. You could argue, but I don't know. Right, right, right. I mean, the thing is I'm biased. Right. I didn't play all the games. Right. So I'm completely biased. And so are many of you. Everyone is. So I think that the way he does it is nice. He's got his panel, which obviously, there's the panel of judges. And you could think it's flawed because it's members of the media who know how you guys think of members of the media. But I think it's nice to have them mixed with fan voting. I think it kind of equalizes out a little bit. Because obviously they're not going to have Reggie and Phil Spencer or something. They're not going to vote because they're going to have obvious. Well, what came was on my system. That's the one. And they're on the board. So they already helped shape the awards anyways. So I think in general, the actual awards were really, really well handled this year. I don't know if there was, besides Sonic Fox is really shocking. Yeah. End of his speech anyways. Yeah. I wasn't shocked for anything else either. That's just Sonic Fox and Sonic Fox. Right, right, right. Yeah. I guess the ending was him too. He just had to make it controversial. Yeah. The rest, I don't know if there was any memorable speeches this year. Not speeches. No. But. Yeah. Because like, it felt like every year there's been like a memorable speech. Well, Sonic Fox's was a memorable speech. Yeah. But for the wrong reason. But like a good positive reason. Right, right, right, right. I mean, Well, I did the interview with the guy from Away Out was really cool, especially when he kept looking away from the camera on the camera. Yeah. He's just like, what? This is awesome. The camera's fine. Like Jeff already knows he didn't win. Maybe we'll see you later tonight. He's like, that would be awesome. And it's like, he's not going to win. That's the whole reason he's on right now is because he's not going to win. If he was going to win, and I picked this game to win that category just because I wanted him on stage. Yeah, right. Because I knew, if he got it, like last year, didn't really win an award, still got to say after the Oscars. Oh, right. Imagine if you won an award. All right. What do you would say? Right. So I'm just like, I really wanted him to win. But like, I think Jeff knew that. So he's like, okay, we got to have this interview with him because everybody liked him. For sure, for sure. And I like, one of the things I liked about him doing that interview is even though Jeff was like, okay, man, like, just like last year, like what are you doing? Are you okay? Well, I think, what it was nice of Jeff doing that for us, he was saying, look, that moment last year, we're not ashamed of that moment. Right. And when he came out and said after the Oscars and people on the internet are like, oh, this is why the gaming awards never be taken seriously. He's like, dude, he's as gamer as it gets, man. Right. Like it's okay. He's not offending anyone while maybe people will let her part of the Oscars. He's offending the Oscars. But he's not offending any gamers and like, this is ultimately a gamer show. Yeah. It's supposed to be four gamers. Yeah. And I think Jeff does a very good job of that. And I think that's why some people are like, oh, I only tune in for the game reveals. And I think he knows that. Mm-hmm. And that's why he tries to make it an event. Mm-hmm. Where, you know, you got like six awards per hour or whatever, 10 awards per hour. Yeah. And you mix in all this other stuff. Yeah. And yeah, the pre-show is still a little strange. I wish that... Why it's a pre-show? I don't know. They're still handing out awards. They're not handing on stage. I know, but they're handing out awards. They're doing all this. It's part of the show. Well, of course it is. It's not pre-show. Well, why do you think it kept advertising when it starts at 7.30? I mean, literally, 7.30 start time was everywhere, but then it starts and you're like, oh, the actual show's in half hour. It's like, no, the show's started. Yeah. This is part of the show. Yeah. I don't know why you pretend it's not. Yeah, right. I guess, the only way I could think about it is for like his back-end organization reasons, like he marks that's the half-hour pre-show. This is the main stage event. This is the main event. And it's like, I kind of get that because that happens at, sometimes at WrestleMania and stuff, if you go, there'll be like a pre-event before the main event that's televised. Granted, this whole thing is televised, but I think he looks at it more like that. Right. It's like the pre-show to the main stage. Right. Right. So it's just his weird terminology. It's just like when he calls things world premieres. Yeah. Exclusive. Yeah. Exclusive premiere. Yeah, right. Or like, you never know like, okay, is this an unannounced game or is this a game we've already seen? Right. This is a new trailer. Yeah. It's just his fancy wording he uses that honestly just built type. Yeah. He is, he's pretty good with the hype. I got one more, one more positive thing. What's that? That I want Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3. That coming straight to switch and exclusive, even if it's timed exclusive, that was probably my most favorite moment of the game works because I love Ultimate Alliance. So, Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3, was it the black water? No. The black something. The black something. I can't remember. Seriously thing, I've never played an Ultimate Alliance game. I did the research, you know, started back on PSP, they came to 360 and blah, blah, blah, and there was a one game and then a second game and a couple like different versions of the second game. Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 is exclusive on Switch and that's what really caught me off guard. Not so much that it's coming because, well, I mean, it's a little shocking because it's been a long time. It's been a really long time since there's been a new Marvel Ultimate Alliance game. The black order. The black order. So, it's been a long time, but exclusive? Yeah, right. That means Nintendo ponied up and maybe it's not so shocking. I found out that the game is being made by Team Ninja. Team Ninja is also the team that's been making like the Fire and the Warriors and making the Hyrule Warriors. So, it's like, oh, oh, so this is their next Switch game. Oh, get ya. So, Nintendo ponied up for some Marvel licensing and ponied up for an IP that no one wanted to renew because it's been forever and now they've got one of the teams they trust and from third parties making it and Nintendo's publishing it. That is, I don't know how much it costs, but I like it. This is like another bayonetta move. It's another bayonetta move. It's saving an IP that hasn't been touched in a while because it didn't sell well enough or whatever the reasons are. Maybe it's licensing issues. Well, they figured it out. Yeah, yeah. They did something right. Describe the Ultimate Alliance games. I've never played when we saw the footage. Well, hopefully they bring back some of the other RPG elements, but basically... Well, it's an RPG. RPG, you play as a number of multiple different Marvel characters. You generally have a squad of four that you can run around with, multiplayer, and you just kind of go through a different whatever story that they have. Is it kind of like Diablo, but you control multiple characters? Or the old school Dragon Age where it was kind of top down a little bit and you controlled multiple? No, you don't control multiple. You only control one character. The other ones are A.I. A.I. Or if your friends are playing. Sure. And you can do that in or you can do that in a Dragon Age or you can just let it be A.I. at the whole time. Van, you have more control. Yeah. Your characters tend to be a little bit more broken than the other ones, but it is what it is. It was in the past. Right. Yeah, so I mean that's pretty much the sum of the game. There's not a whole lot to it, but it's actually... they took actually some of it out, some of the RPG elements out in the second one versus the first one. Which I hope they bring back. But... just some of the... they took out some of the, like, your different moves. They took out a couple of other things I can't remember exactly offhand what they all took out. But it was quite disappointing to see them take it out. So I'm hoping they put it all back in and bring us back a decent story and... because the stories of the other two were fantastic, but... Well, another thing on the bottom line are you buying it? Oh, yeah. Okay. Just had to ask. Yeah. Had to ask because we're getting to a little topic later, but there's a certain game you haven't bought yet that really surprises me. Yeah. But we'll get into that. Yeah. We'll get into that in my next topic. Because I... we're almost done with the Game Awards, but I just want to... I just kind of want to throw, like, my general feelings out there. And I know I have one thing. The one major criticism you want to get out there. My thing with the Game Awards is I thought this was the best one yet. Despite not having a memorable speech, you can't help that. That's based on who wins, what awards, what they're going to say. I know there's some controversy over some people thinking, you know, the constant creator award being, like, ninja. Should there be, like, a streamer award than an actual content creator award because there's a whole bunch of, like, it felt like all the people that were nominated for were live streamers. Where were the people doing the original work? Heck, where she says boundary break? Right, exactly. Stuff like that, yeah. I'm not saying me, like, you know, if Greg Miller can win, I mean, obviously, someone like me should be able to qualify. I'm not saying that I'm big enough and that I have enough influence to qualify, which I do think is a key part of this because you can be an amazing creator, but if you don't have a lot of influence on enough people, I can see why maybe that automatically disqualifies you. But I think there are plenty of really big creators, especially on YouTube, that definitely should have got some recognition or at least nominated, even if you wanted to get ninja in there, which would just obviously hand them the award. Actually, it would be kind of cool if you're going to do, you know, these content creators, have a small content creator award. So you get like a couple of small channels out there that, hey, these guys are actually doing really well, even though they're tiny. Yeah. I can think of one right now, not talking about us, because yeah, I'm technically a small content creator, but there's plenty that are smaller than me. Give you an example. There's that Simon Love channel, Simon Love Roms. Yeah. Simon Love Roms. Look him up. What? Simon Love Ridge. Yeah, Simon Love Ridge. Sorry. I know he was shouted all once by Philip DeFranco as the mystery link of the day, but he wasn't really shouting that he just, Philip DeFranco does like a mystery link every day and just click on it. It's, you know, random YouTube on video that this team liked. So you got a little attention from that, but he's a really dinky YouTuber that does all these metal covers of video game music that are awesome. You hand the one video on it. Yeah, we actually have a video up on our channel, one that he let us put up specifically in ad form, specifically, this content's awesome. Yeah. We'll check out more. Yeah, for sure. And it really is awesome. It is. I'm not even in the metal. Fantastic. Yeah. And I think it's awesome. So, you know, giving someone like that a shot to win, you know, maybe, you know, I know Smoomik Groove's on a little bit of a comeback and he's not necessarily small. He's got a couple million, but someone like him who does that, all those acapella covers. Right. If he has a killer year, this year I don't think would have been a good year for him, but other years probably would have been a great year to pick him. So, stuff like that and it doesn't necessarily need to be someone who's inspiring or whatever. Like obviously, even Greg Miller one, it was inspiring because one, he is someone who went from traditional media and IGN to his own company and his own company and kind of funny being fan funded and doing all this YouTube stuff, which was an amazing story on top of the fact that he conquered cancer. So like, it was literally like the ideal combination of things to make for what was going to end up being an excellent award for him and an excellent speech where, you know, thankfully he didn't make any event about him. He talked about all the little guys in game development that don't get shout outs, the artists and the programmers that do all the grunt work that are putting 80 hours a weekend that no one knows their name. And it was a really cool speech, but you're not going to get speeches like that every year, regardless of who gets nominated because you don't want to base your nomination on just who's going to give a good speech. You want to base it on the voting process. I know the voting process goes through the panel and they try to figure out, you know, narrow it down. And it's hard for me to be like, oh yeah, like Reggie Fieseme is going to pay attention to all these little YouTubers. Of course he's not. No. But you know, that's why you hire a team. Oh yeah. It kind of pays attention and looks for it and sees what they can do. And it's easy for me to say because I'm a small YouTuber, so I'm a lot more aware of other small YouTubers. I think, and I think the bigger you get, I'll say this, is for me to even find YouTubers that have a thousand subs or less anymore. I just don't even find them anymore because they don't pop up in my feed anymore. I'm seeing one similar on my side or the ones that I always watch anyways that are massive. And I think when you're massive, it's even harder to find it because you're always just finding other massive YouTubers because you're associating with as you correlate with as you're meeting at events. Right. So it's an interesting situation but I think there's a way to do it because it's a whole much a new awards. Right. I did talk about how I think one thing that might be cool is splitting the show where you have making a two-day event and you can do things I don't my problem with splitting the show is my entire idea is going to lessen the value of some awards. Right. And you could argue already happens in the pre-show. I'm like, yeah but he hands awards like that during the show too. So it's not really it's not really because you know they actually might get fully mentioned they might actually get up to get up on stage and accept the award for it. My thing is like let's take let's take all of the eSports and I don't know multi-player categories let's put them on their own thing the day before do like an hour hour and a half show have it be all about a celebration of eSports a celebration of of all of that stuff the next day have it be a celebration of the whole of gaming and that doesn't mean the eSports game win. A new eSports game comes out that year. Great, you can win one of those awards. But like best ongoing game, best multiplayer game even you know best you know all those eSports world best coach best team best player I think all that can be like it's own show and I think the nice thing about that is I think what happens in this show outside of what Sonic Fox said is the rest of the eSports awards I think kind of got overlooked. Yeah kind of I think he does all those early yeah because he knows the other awards are what people care about right right right and I think if you separate it out so you have like this massive celebration of eSports I think that would be even better because imagine like if you had like eSports kind of specific show yeah eSports beforehand so you have the eSports awards like you have the eSports awards or the content creator awards and you could really focus it in you can bring in you can do things like hey bring in the top two rated players for Smash Bros. Ultimate next year and have them battle it out on stage in front of that audience battle it out for the award and an eSports award ceremony having like two of the top Smash Bros. players two of the top Tekken two of the top like just having that I might say and have a mini tournament battle it out for the award I mean you could in theory each year you could pick a game throughout the award or just make the finals make the finals of the mini tournament on that yeah I don't know I mean I think whatever the point is that you could really cater it to that crowd better oh yeah for sure and I don't want to feel like it diminishes anything I think what it does is it treats eSports like it actually brings it into light yeah I think it brings eSports into the mainstream a little bit more yeah maybe I don't know I mean it's already on cable TV so I don't know I mean granted the number one I did watch a little tournament of Candy Crush and I'm like you know what's pretty intense yeah I gotta say I thought I was good at Candy Crush there no no no I'm not good I'm not good I couldn't oh it's a stupid I'm like watch one of the actual eSports tournaments you will understand there are some skill levels in that game that you had never dreamed were possible oh right no for sure just like watching Tetris yeah oh yeah it's there in Candy Crush well Candy Crush everyone has for a long while too it's all Candy Crush it's just this negative thing all these micro transactions it's such a bad thing I'm like watch I'm telling you it's entertaining as hell yeah I don't know why by the way I don't even like Candy Crush anymore right but it's entertaining to watch competitive yeah it's just so exciting so much stuff happening you're like what how do they come back no no it was a set up the whole match yeah it's like chess how did you see that move coming at the end anyways not quite in chess but different sport yeah different board game sport yes I guess they call it a sport technically a sport of the mind yeah so yeah I think that's one thing that I would change up and then one it makes a show no one has to sit down for three straight hours which doesn't bother me no but it can there are parts that seem to get drawn out but I also think it also leaves you more play room so you could hand out every award you know and this game won this yeah which only happened I think twice which is way down from what it used to be right including you know announce you know what the next day that didn't happen and giving more time for a specific thing you can even you can even give a little bit more time for speeches as an example if they had done this this year I mean can you imagine like the audience reacted pretty well to that persona 5 announcement for switch the you know Joker character and smash reacted really really cool but if it was an e-sports crowd oh yeah whoo those guys are nuts you would have got like live press conference e3 greatest moment kind of reaction oh yeah if it had been an e-sports only kind of award ceremony or it it culminated in that yeah right yeah right when smash was ultimate it's about to enter the e-sports right right it would have been insane yeah so that's another thing too and like well what about the other audience the double banger yeah maybe they would have had to bring Bayonetta 3 and Metro Prime just saying yeah double bang it up let's go yeah yeah but I don't know that's just me oh no my wishes my dreams but it is a thing as just a single show which by the way like one reason he doesn't do it is basically planning two shows which I mean from what I heard from Danny O'Dwyer like Jeff Keely's journey on this show like he doesn't mess around he is traveling to these studios mm-hmm talking to them anything they want to show what are they comfortable with yeah how do you want it shown yeah we think this game might get nominated you mean you're gonna have people here for it you mean not as a hey look let's check out the nominees oh wait that was a Mortal Kombat here's the thing some people were telling me that that moment was was planned right and I'm just like I went back and rewatched it and I'm just like I don't know man it looked like one he was cut off and then when he came back on he was still on the stage and he's like okay here's the actual nominees yeah right and I'm just like yeah it could have been staged but it didn't feel like like it was staged it did not feel like it was staged at all it felt like someone hit a wrong button in the back yeah but again maybe it was staged you never know you know just like obviously the Smash Bros.1 for sure was staged Jeff's talk he was like okay this stage yeah cause you see him turn like this and he's like it's like okay Jeff you know you set up the show Jeff you can't fool him you know what's happening every moment in this show besides maybe that slip up maybe yeah we're not gonna know unless Jeff comes out and addresses the public they'll be like yeah that was a that was a planned thing that was a that was a that was a yeah I hit the wrong button I hit the wrong button I had a little clicker in my pie I had the Mortal Kombat button and I just bumped it he was ready for Mortal Kombat but anyways I thought it was a good overall show best yet and as a my only criticism is just I think it would have been better to split it up but again I know how much work like here's the thing I've always respected Jeff Keely the Doritos Pope the Mountain Dew and Doritos Pope from all the old sponsorships they used to have to pedal the Mountain Dew and all the stuff during the game awards and during their game trailer shows the thing is like I have a lot of respect for what he does for the show the work he put in the fat that the very first show he paid completely out of pocket like such a big risk if that didn't go well for him he's out all that money and he's never getting it back right and that's the end of the game awards and I won't be at it anymore like without Jeff Keely there is no game awards I don't know if people understand that even if you don't care about game awards you don't care about this game of the year you prefer some YouTubers game of the years or IGNs or whatever that's fine because everyone's going to have goatees going on this time of the year or in January next year and I get that but I think there's something special about trying to make it this big event and even if you aren't into that a lot of people are like me at least I hope a lot of people are like me 26 million people tuned in and I'm assuming a lot of people are pretty excited about just the awards themselves and I'm glad that an event like this exists and for that I mean Jeff Keely thank you so much for the hard work you put into this show every year I can't imagine like I've been hearing some crazy things about your travel schedule not being able to see your family very much because of it you know yeah you get your little lol after the game awards but it's sort of picking up as you get towards E3 because you've already the YouTube gaming staff and helping do YouTube coverage for E3 and man I mean I'm hoping you're getting a nice deserved vacation now because you put on a hell of a show yeah right but you know as I say the best of the best never sleep like everyone's hoping oh Sakurai he's going to get a break he doesn't want to break he's a workaholic yeah yeah he might get done with Smash and he's just writing the next project you're one big sticker my one big thing was their lack of use of graphics like they'd introduce these people who are supposed to introduce the awards they'd come out start talking if you didn't hear who they were or if you don't know who they are or if you just can't hear period and you don't have close captioning on how hard is it to throw their name up underneath them yeah so you have a game that it won an award they just nonchalantly mentioned hey it will also one best multiplayer how hard is that to throw it up on a graphic underneath the underneath on the screen it's yeah to give you an example obviously I can't do anything about it in the audio version of this podcast but in the video although the last podcast didn't have it because I rushed the editing in the video version of the podcast normally at the beginning at some point either when we say our names or if we forget to because it happens there's a lot of banners pop up to say hey this is the tenor of jazz this is Eric Moore you know maybe we don't give you a lot of details after that I think our twitter handles are right there but besides that we don't give you a lot of details but it doesn't matter at least you know okay this is that the tenor of jazz I could go and look them up if I want to figure out what's up with that obviously he's for this place right and we do that because yeah some people might mess it or you know a lot of you guys will know me because I do everything on the channel maybe you don't hear Eric all the time like wait who's that other guy again and you're like back up oh Eric Moore okay yeah does that matter to you does that make Eric more important no but I think it's just important for reasons just like when we reasons I hate that I hate that for reasons for all the reasons that he brought up just like when we mention you know hey as far as the patreon like then we brought up the patreon banner because one it's good advertisement and two it also just the audio and you can't do that with everything you know if you want it with everything turn on those captions it goes on at 100% but I do agree that especially because it's a live stream that they could they could do something I don't know that it all depends I mean it doesn't really depend even if they don't legitimately don't know who won until like the day of the show you just have graphics ready for everything he has people might hit the wrong button or screwed up but you know what it's better than not trying they ran off they we supposedly think they ran a trailer without when it was supposed to like it's worth it happens like basically you know you have the banner come out like it happens on the sbs happens they come out and they like the presenter comes out and does the thing and then when the person wins comes out and does the thing and then sometimes with how much time is between when they you know when they announced the award and the people are walking up to stage if you have a background and all you need to do is throw a name and if they want anything else on that on that and then slide it in it takes two seconds yeah it it's really not I'm pretty sure I could figure out how to do that and I don't really know a whole lot about video editing and I think it's really not that hard like I I'll say this I'm not go with like all it has to do is just appear and disappear it's but there's automated like I don't know I don't do it in live stream so I'm not I'm not the best to talk to about how to do it live but I know it can be done so I don't know it's something that I I agree that can work on I'm not as critical about it as you I don't think it's an essential thing it's more of a nice to have it's more of a it's more of a for me I don't there was a moment too that you didn't know I don't have the it's one of the things that if when we were talking it was like wait what happened we I mean we both missed the fact that Fortnite 1 multiplayer yeah I know it would have been easily fixed if they would have just popped up saying this you know on this one and then if we were looking at the screen at the time right but I mean if we're both not really not paying attention that bad well the thing is it's a live stream so for like if I was watching it on my own I wouldn't I wouldn't missed anything but I it was a live stream and you know we're entertaining we're conversing we're trying to you know make the stream a bit more than just the game awards and things happen speaking of a bit more than the game awards Super Smash Bros. Ultimate yeah it's out yeah it's a quick summary on this game before we get into our thoughts on it and why a certain someone doesn't only yet you're probably like it might eventually be the only switch owner that doesn't the game has become the fastest selling game in Nintendo's entire history in Japan during its launch week it sold Famitsu and MediaCrate both have it around 1.24 million I know you might be like oh but that's not the best ever because Pokemon Silver and Gold launched at 1.4 million sure with zero digital sales included in those numbers zero digital sales included these are just physical sales the 1.1 million the 1.24 million was just physical I'm sorry I'm willing to go on a limb and say at least 200,000 people bought it digitally bought it digitally probably like the percentage in Japan is like 35% of people buy their games digitally in Japan 35% of 1.2 million is way more than enough to get you past that threshold just a little bit so assuming this and the thing is a lot more people at least in the US seem to be buying it digitally for some I wanted to actually play it at midnight is what I assume so yeah it's I'm guaranteed it is it'll come out with Nintendo's official numbers in January 31st when they have their physical report which that'll be fun to talk about but yeah it's the fastest selling game ever in the 30 plus history of them as a video game company and as fast as the Nintendo published game because they didn't develop Pokemon that's game freak but so that happened it quickly became the best selling switch game the best launch switch in the best launch for a switch game in the UK and it beat out the previous combined best in Pokemon let's go EV by I don't know 4,000 units or something so it was tight but it came on on top we don't have any US numbers at the time of recording maybe we do by the time it's it seems to be I mean a lot of people are projecting when we finally do here numbers that launch numbers could be 5 million worldwide 6 million worldwide potentially and by the end of December maybe we'll hit 10 million one of the most like one of the biggest retailers in all of Japan sold out of physical copies I have now sent sort of that a bunch of smaller retailers are also sold out and that's in Japan I don't know what to say it's because I mean I have the game digitally didn't go to stores didn't see what their copies were like so who knows maybe they're completely sold out in our area too I know there's been sellouts of a few online retailers but they were like restocked the next day so whether or not they were actually sold out or they just needed to go check the warehouse and see if they had copies or maybe they had more shipments coming and they already knew this was going to happen who knows it's also could be that they know how much is in the storage but they made sure that they had enough for a backup what we're saying is there's a potential that Super Smash Bros. Ultimate might have launched at numbers that are the best in Nintendo history worldwide not just Japan worldwide it's possible that doesn't necessarily mean the game's going to maintain that momentum right become the best selling well it's kind of hard to maintain that momentum when you know eventually you get to the point where you know all the switches have want to sell more switches you know what I mean but yeah it's it'll be interesting to see where the numbers are at the end of December as you know where the numbers are getting once DLC starts rolling out there's going to be a lot of interesting things and obviously I think the Persona hype helped because there might have been people that were kind of on the fence like oh crap Persona yeah right yeah I'm in and then you spend extra money to get that DLC fighter pass so that's just the general just what's happening lots of lots of hype so that all aside that's like the summary of the sales and kind of the news around it it's got really high review scores like a 93, 94 and a Metacritic to be expected I think it's like the number of four highest rated game of the year ironically not up for game of the year in fact I don't think a Smash Bros. game has ever been up for game of the year at the major outlets but it released in a month where it's kind of hard to it might have been a game of the year some major outlets that do their rewards at the end of the year but could it be up for game of the year next year though because it would qualify but it it never happened like Xenoblade Chronicles 2 didn't qualify for any or I don't say it didn't qualify it wasn't elected for any awards this year and that was the December game and clearly should have been an RPG of the year if Optipot Traveler is right because well I mean it would be kind of hard for game of the year this year this year's game awards because well no it wasn't out based on the timing no but I think that's another I guess that's another criticism of the game awards is that I think it should happen in January or February if you need time for all games to release and then a process but whatever that's just me I do think that well you know what let's just get into your thoughts so here's the deal I've obviously played Super Smash Result but I played a decent amount of it I'm not going to act like I'm good at it because as I said earlier I suck I'm one of the worst players in the world at the game I played World of Light I was doing it on hard you guys saw on live stream how much I suck but I'm slogging through I'm getting there Eric played it for the first time today I did so well well not counting E3 the World of Light yes World of Light yes not counting E3 not counting the basic smash thing at E3 yes yes okay first time the first time you played the actual retail game right here's nothing before I get into what your thoughts are so far on very limited time hour hour and a half with World of Light yeah why didn't you pick up Smash Bros I just haven't been in the store I don't know I just terrible excuse you picked up Pokemon day one granted we told the people that would happen right you picked up Mario Odyssey day one that was a no doubter for you you picked up Mario plus Rabbids Kingdom battle yeah day one yeah obviously picked up Breath of the Wild day one what I did no that that wasn't the game that convinced you to buy Switch not at all I just don't and you're someone who I know almost more than me picks up Smash Bros almost every time I didn't even get it for 3DS nah I got it for 3DS I had on Wii I had I mean I had the 64 in the 3DS version that's the only you don't have a GameCube though no that was why otherwise you wouldn't probably have the GameCube and I don't think did you have a Wii yeah we had a Wii you didn't have Smash for it was it like the family Wii yeah it's a little different yeah not going to get those hardcore games the 64 was the family you were a kid yeah okay your family system playing Conker's Bad Friday get out of here okay there was pretty much your system yeah I know more than anyone just like well the 64 was the family system too but I'm the one that played yeah when I move out it's mine yeah there's that so you didn't pick it up like the other game the reason I brought up the other games like I think Pokemon you felt obligated Breath of the Wild was what sold you to the system but the other games you didn't have to pick up the one there was no pressure no but you did I did so to me I feel like there's something about so what are you not hyped for this game I I I think I am I just I am just so busy right now between work and everything it's just I don't shouldn't that be all the more reason to have it the quickness of the matches it's perfect to play on your breaks yeah when you need a moment to release some stress yeah it's even more perfect than some of the other games yeah you need to invest a lot more time into it heck and I know like I know this is just me knowing you you haven't beat like all the games you have yeah and that's fine because as you're busy you're playing when you can you enjoy them when you do play them and the big thing for you especially with the games you have is like long play sessions like you do at my house sometimes you really enjoy it and for sure for sure but that's why I thought maybe Smash might be perfect because you don't need a long play session yeah I just I don't have a reason I really don't I just really I haven't been to the store I haven't he's not as hyped the hype isn't real for him it I enjoy it I enjoy it when I play it at E3 I just I don't know I don't know what it is he's not as hyped I mean that's what it is you would have never did that with Breath of the Wild no it's about lies you're just not as hyped not as hyped as Breath of the Wild you're correct yes crazy I mean here's the thing I'm obviously way more hyped for a Zelda game than anything else but I'm completely a Zelda guy for you like Breath of the Wild was what got you into Zelda not that you hadn't played before of course but like what actually like you went out and spent your money to play a Zelda game didn't have to do it you did it because you wanted to which was awesome but awesome for me too because I was like oh my fellow podcast guy actually plays the switch yeah right instead of me talking about current stuff going on that he doesn't play but seriously I got this feeling I kind of felt when we talked about this back at E3 because we had a little conversation our impressions on Smash and I got this feeling back then that you weren't feeling the magic that I remember you feeling back when we were kids so obviously grow up things are different but for being the ultimate version of Smash everyone is here like I remember when we saw that and I was like what? we were excited by that but yeah and the sad part was is we were not too long before that we were just complaining that there's too many things in there but that's like but this is the only excuse right that I could handle was that oh it's because you're trying to put every character it's everyone's bad right and part of me still is that's a lot of stuff in this game though still and I don't know if that's part of it well too many characters not even too many characters you can unlock them all in an hour and a half just a lot of different things in this game yeah a lot of content yeah which I mean fantastic but it's almost yeah I get that but it's it's one of those games that I haven't finished a lot of my games that I have now and looking at it it's like oh god it's just another game that I not gonna finish you know you can play games forever right I know I mean sometime in the next however many years of your life in another 40 50 years you're not gonna not gonna get it done yeah right no because another special come out I don't know I don't know if there's another one after this yeah it's true this is insane the smash game no it's not like I'm not gonna pick it up I probably will hear eventually but I just I don't know why I didn't go don't let my peer pressure get you no I'm not no no it's not I don't know I just I have no reason well I will I will say this so what you got to play today was some world of light yeah that's what you chose to play yeah forced to do you just went to it because that's the story mode and you just wanted to see what it looked like yeah I do some impressions of that but I will say this for someone who might be worried there's too much content for you to ever finish it unlike you know prior smash games or those much much less yeah I'm just like I don't think he's playing the part of the game that's gonna make it feel appealing to him and this is I guess one of my criticisms of world of light now I'm playing in a hard mode which those of you that have done world of light know it even for people who are really really good at smash hard mode is even hard it's cheap the bonuses they get from their guys are way more effective than the bonuses you get even when you have the counters to them doesn't always work the greatest and I'm not very good at smash so I'm torturing myself even worse I'm sitting there watching you play normal and I'm just like oh normal's gotta be a cakewalk compared to me but you are still struggling and you're blaming the controls and we'll get into that in a little bit but my thing is world of light's hard and I feel like one thing about this adventure mode that maybe kinda missed the mark is it feels like it was built for the hard core and I don't think there's anything wrong with that I think that's why a lot of hardcore smash players are enjoying it but it's also where's the story mode for the not hard core yeah like subspace emissary was great for everyone you might not enjoy everything about it but the general premise of it was great for almost everyone this is great for people who are even on easy mode like it's great for people who are really into smash really hard core really know everything perfectly that's what it's kinda for not that you need to do it all perfectly but it's still like that's the feeling I get playing I'm a casual smash rules fan and I'm powering through it because I wanna beat that mode but I don't know why because I'm not enjoying it that much and I know yes I'm torturing myself I can lower the difficulty but I wanna have to lower like I used to play all my smash matches against level 9, level 10 whatever level 9 I think was level 9 CPU because it wasn't a challenge unless I did that and yeah I know for professional smash players none of it is a challenge but that's supposed to be the idea smash bros appeals to everyone and then when you don't wanna be competitive you go online but this is like no you gotta be hardcore just for that even on easy mode it's like man yeah it I mean I like the concepts of it I love the art and oh yeah yeah the art of the oval is pretty cool for sure and I mean yes I like the spirit I like the RPGness right I just granted I skipped through quite a bit of it yeah I know you're like whatever I'm just like now I'm gonna have to explain it it's okay though no it's not even that it's I skipped through it because so I could actually start playing and that's partially on me but I good lord trying to figure out what this does what this does what this does what that does and it's like oh Jesus Christ I know they I know they explained it I get that I I skipped it because they need to play it but damn it's a lot of different stuff it's a lot it's a complicated mode and that's the thing there's already all these complexities the spirits the sub-spirits the RPG like or I think it would be fantastic how it just stated spirits the whole sub-spirits Jesus Christ come on just just fine with that what it here's the way I view them view this it's basically a set path RPG yeah I don't know if there's anything wrong with that it's actually for an RPG pretty damn simplistic a main spirit some sub-spirits and a talent tree is nothing for an RPG yeah it is so it doesn't bother me I think what bothers me is that the actual fights are cheap as hell and I get it you can try the spirit spend it on this spend it on that but like early in the game you don't have a lot of those and there's still I don't even want to say cheap as hell it's just like again it's ramped up for the hardest of the hardcore players and I feel like like my son tried playing World of Light the other day he's granted he's only five but he does you know matches against the normal smash against CPU and he does okay he wins sometimes he's got no shot he can't even get past Mario and it's like did you not think about everyone even on easy I said it's easy no, no shot and I just I feel like it's a missed opportunity for World of Light where one I don't know there's enough differences between the difficulties as it is and two I think that while an interesting concept they don't they don't make it friendly enough for casual I think a lot of casual smash players and I've been hearing this from some of them you know that are like me aren't even bothering with it they're just going to classic mode it's the mode we know it's classic smash classic climb the ladder beat the emboss unlock characters we know it doesn't bother us you don't have to be the greatest you could beat it without having super hard you know whatever and you just have fun just like facing any other computer it doesn't feel cheap doesn't feel this way and I'm glad that they and here's the thing if they had ramped it up for say like if you I don't even know if you face something that's gleaned but if you do okay I understand that being ramped up to impossible levels I maybe understand like because there's like those four branching paths like maybe when you get to the end of each path or whatever that that particular thing is ramped up to a thousand like a boss battle that's fine yeah but every like not all of them some of them are stupidly easy but oh yeah that just happens in Smash so something you know you get like the 100 Yoshi fight like it's stupidly easy but but it feels like every you know second third battle it's like oh yeah I would say every third why does the difficulty ramp up that high all of it feels like it's out of nowhere it's like oh why is it this high yeah what is it and I understand the unique spirits I understand like the strategy involved and I'm fine with the strategy but it's still it's like man it shouldn't and again I'm bad at Smash this is from hardcore players that like they struggle sometimes yeah but then they get stuck on some fights it's like they shouldn't they're pros man yeah and it's I don't know it was just the the percentage that adds on for each hit it's like all of a sudden I was doing roughly the same side smash I would add maybe 5% if that friggin they one shot me and it's like what what I'm doing the exact same move just with my character versus what they have yet I'm I'm only throwing like a third of the of the damage that they are well that's part of the trick because here's how here's how it works and and this is where there might have been a bit of an oversight by then so they have a talent tree you go through the talent tree what does it do what are the a lot of things it does make sure it attacks it harder makes your character move a little faster because like Kirby doesn't move as quick as he does normally when you first when you start out he does his hits hit his heart the idea is it feels like that now but when you get later into it he's more powerful because you upgraded it so that's why you're supposed to feel weak now I clicked with me the last day I was playing it you're supposed to feel weak now because they want you to feel like you are getting more powerful as you as you progress I just think the steep curve needed to be brought down a bit for the beginning yes still have it be hard the fact that I had to fight it was like my I view it as maybe when you one of those fights they're basically maxed out talent tree and you're not yeah it was it was basically what my 10th fight in maybe and I I had to replay that what 10 15 times because it was it was just ridiculous I mean I might have had to fight Ridley like 50 times in a row on live stream for he killed himself yeah done luck for the win yeah right but I so that aside like I've said some anything you liked about World of Light no I like the concept I do it's it's an interesting concept it's just a lot it is it's a lot to take in at once partially his own fall but still still a my issues my issues just the difficulty like I feel like the entire game the entire mode is the same difficulty across the board no matter how you progress in it what changes is you getting stronger and I get that I get that from a hardcore perspective especially I don't know I just like the last time we had a story mode with subspace emissary and this just maybe there should have been two story modes I don't know the one thing too is right um maybe and I know this is gonna piss a ton of people off but I'm not I'm not one of I'm not much of a big on reading I'd much rather experience it so with with the don't play Skyward Sword right so so with you would think it's broken with the the whole like um spirits and subspear stuff like that to actually go and have like a fight all of a sudden okay you hit without a spirit okay now let's see what adding a spirit does okay this now to be fair you might not have noticed this on when you go into the match you have your spirit thing down there and you have whatever you have equipped it'll tell you if you have an advantage it'll have arrows pointing up saying you have an advantage with that spirit and whatever you have equipped or if you have a disadvantage and you should probably swap your spirit up like your spirit action doesn't work and then if it does nothing so like that's kind of it's quick hey you know you might not know what's happening with your spirits but you know whatever you have equipped doesn't have an advantage or a disadvantage right right right but to show it that you know okay this actually does give you an advantage here for this I mean yes it does say that it does get the read right I can't just pick up a concept through actually playing well you can the problem is part of playing is reading even if you skip the tutorial it's all the information in front of you you just have to read you don't want to read that's the problem you just want to smash and no read which means this mode is not for you this mode requires a ton of reading or a ton of trial and error and realizing that this isn't working and then getting frustrated yeah that's why I honestly think if you went straight to classic mode you would have nothing but praise right now you probably would have got through you probably have nothing I do since I'm unlocking into that mode which is the slowest method to unlock instead of going to the classic mode and I feel like you would have loved that mode because it would have ended with the bosses specific to each character and you would have been like this is awesome and that's I just don't think it's the mode I think you like the ideas but it's not everything I'm hearing from you is my thing is just difficulty your thing is just I don't want to read and it requires reading yeah there's that and you like some rpgs the ones that you don't have to read to figure it out yeah which is very few of them yeah maybe simplistic ones autopilot traveler you don't really gotta read to figure it out you can figure it out through trial and error pretty quickly but the thing is but why play an rpg if you don't have to read there's a lot of text in rpgs I I can't give you a full on answer so here's here's the thing my brain only processes certain things sometimes um now you played in handheld mode yes I have not played in handheld mode yet what was that like because you got to play it on tv 83 yeah with like what did you use like gamecube controller or pro controller no I think it was pro controller well I think well we got a choice on the competitive side I'm pretty sure it was pro controller I was on the casual yeah um god I granted I'm playing Kirby I don't play Kirby but I don't know um I don't know I just I was trying to do something and it felt like it just was doing the complete opposite I was standing on top of a freaking health item on the one fight that I was having really troubles on and instead of actually picking up the damn health item he's decided he wanted to start punching and I was like hello which button did you hit A hit B you'll pick up the health item would be what to suck it up no you just tap B quick and I'll eat it that's the easiest way to do it because if if you do A the thing is they don't have you can pick it up with either but A I have found at least and I I didn't play you know you play with the joy cons I haven't played with those yet I was playing with a a power A controller um I noticed that when I walk over something like a food item and I hit A it tends not to eat it sometimes you'll just do it and I don't know if it's happening automatically but when I hit B every time when I'm standing nobody always eats it because I think what the idea is um you don't want you don't want both buttons doing it because if someone's next to you I mean you don't want to not be able to attack but if A is to pick up items I'm trying to pick up the damn item you're not why are we why are we switching buttons to pick up items I don't know I don't know what to tell you that so I mean it was just like so I kept you kept you with your primary attack button yeah because you can still do side Bs and up Bs and down Bs yeah yeah that's fine but if I'm standing over an item and I want to I hit the button to pick up the item give me the item I don't know it would seem to on that fight my biggest issue is like when I was playing online with Pikachu you get into these matches that have items and the food items drop and the problem is like Pikachu the dropper on top of them too Pikachu like only sprints he doesn't really run past it so like you're zipping back like I'm trying to stop I can't it feels like I'm set I just want to inch I can't do it or it just seems like oh hey look the items all looking at spawn right on top of them for some ungodly reason it happens no it always happens I understand it's random but it sometimes feels like it's not it might not be random world of light world of light the different thing it's a story mode it doesn't have to be random negative we hate random world of light yeah no I mean I mean it's not like it didn't have fun no it's the only thing you could speak to well and I was trying to multitask mommy to beat that for you yeah I was playing in hard mode so I can normally watch me beat this one try it like I'm so used to getting wrecked in hard mode like I'm watching him oh my god he's really not avoiding attacks he's not using a shield granted I had to learn I can't do that in this mode so I already learned the hard way by dying 50 plus times a Ridley that oh yeah shield you gotta grab you gotta do this gotta do that gotta really be good at avoiding even with Kirby trying to put distance sometimes some characters you need to get right on top of the other ones that I the other one that I noticed too I did a couple of side smashes looked like my hammer went right straight through the character it's like right stick what right stick I know both of us are actually really bad right stick the right stick actually the thing is I need to actually hit the thing and go look at the controls the right stick lets you do a lot of the things that we're making way more difficult than we need to like say you want to do a side B you can do that with just a flick of the right stick and I'm just like that's way easier than trying to like coordinate to like a stick and a button at the same time like and that's been there since Gamecube but I just never used it but the thing is that I swung and it went literally right through the character and watched it like online leg I'm like yeah online leg yeah I literally sat there and watched it go right through them um the one grab range was like what I'm like 15 feet from you and you don't have a like a sling hook shot like link does how my little grab yeah maybe he has a spirit that gives him extended reach yeah maybe he's got the talent for extended reach yeah and here's the thing it just sounds like to me where the live mode's not for you I'm not saying that you don't enjoy it I'm not saying that if you if and when you buy the game you won't beat that mode on easy I'll beat the mode probably on easy especially here's the thing you just say here's the thing it's a really long mode like really good so the thing is like in that you know you do it this way but if you care just about beating it just do it on easy because otherwise you're going to be doing it forever you're never going to play anything else here's that and that's the way I am with a lot of games too I'll play it easy just because I want to beat it I'll go back and play it harder if I want to but if there's multiple modes multiple things I'm just trying to get to everything yeah so I've played I haven't even done a normal smash against the computer yet hasn't even crossed my mind to do it I have done some online matches I did one arena match playing against Ryan one of our Patreon backers and then who by the way he was in Brazil or something like that he's far away and we had no leg issues which was great between us granted he has pretty decent internet so do I so that's I didn't expect there to be problems but it's also one of those you don't know how much the distance is going to matter it didn't really matter there was I've done online matches in general and slight criticism of the fact that no matter what you pick you can't if you do a quick match especially you can't guarantee that you're going to get the match you want like if you want to do one on one no items you know final destination style stages it's kind of a crapshoot if it's going to happen especially until you get up to the higher ranks where more people seem to be choosing that but you can still get up to the higher ranks with items as well so you still have people so kudos to me I want the hammer right it's just I don't like that I think it was better when it was split up with four glory mode on its own thing and I think you could just have ranks for both and call it good yeah whatever they didn't do it that way it doesn't really bother me as a casual as much as it probably bothers some of the more hardcore players classic mode great no complaints of a classic mode I've only gone through it one time I did it with link great great final battle lots of fun got a little frustrated because I had kind of a cakewalk all the way to the final boss and then the final boss it's a boss it's harder than the boss than the actual it's a legit yeah it's harder than the boss than the actual Breath of the Wild game but it was fun and I mean yeah it was kind of like really like my frustrations with it weren't like man you know like where it feels like the game is almost cheating to win this was a I can't believe I'm dying to this yeah I'm so stupid yeah like I this is how bad I am at Smash Bros. I know what to do and I just my brain and my fingers are not communicating correctly so I had a lot of fun with that I don't again I don't have a lot of characters unlocked and I don't want to I don't want to make this like our big smash cast because obviously we talked about game awards for a while yeah and I want to make sure voices and Darren I know wants to come back for it maybe maybe get some of the YouTubers on you might have to from the competitive side you might have to have smash cast part 2 and I'm gone well maybe we'll see the point is that I just wanted to briefly touch upon it because it did come out both of us I played more than he has but I haven't played much more than what I just described and honestly and I said this on live stream and I'll say it again now it is the most fun I have had with the Smash Bros. game since the N64 World of Light I wouldn't really count in that opinion for now but I know if I beat it on hard I'm going to be pretty happy when I'm done one is never going back after this not going back to it I'm gone I'm gone but two I like World of Light it makes me want to be a hardcore smash player but I just don't really care I don't care we'll learn how to wave dash how to how to recover properly with the different characters even I suck at recovery that's the one nice thing about Kirby is you just poof poof poof and you're generally good I suck at recovering with Kirby it's supposed to be this easy recovery it's too slow unless you start at a high point it's harder to come back up from down below than it is from up top just give me Lincoln a spin attack with a hookshot and I'm good anyways let's see here or Pikachu which I still have never once in all my years playing him figured out how to do the double zip on his up B still don't know how it works still don't know how it works sometimes I get it to work sometimes I don't know I don't know and I don't know what direction it's gonna go like it goes the right direction the first time I have no idea where it's going the second time maybe it's gonna zip back out and I'm gonna die it'll zip back in I honestly stage is over here this is what happens when you're casual you don't look up the controls you don't really figure anything out I only recently figured out how to do like the little smash and I had to tell you how to do it because I'm like I didn't know how to do it just hold B apparently I didn't know I've never seriously I honestly if I just looked up the controls and memorized them I'd be way the hell better this game but this is why I don't play fighting games this is why I'm not a fighting game fan yeah there's too many intricacies to the controls so this way hitting this button or doing this button combo and I know smash is simpler than a lot of other games with like you have to hit like 10 buttons for the combo yeah I just up down left right side diagonal B what up down up down left right left right start select B.A. or whatever whatever the Konami code is I totally just butchered it yes I think you did yeah I'm just that's my thing that's why I'm not in the fighting games but I don't know like smash is kind of different simpler but not and I even suck at that so that's what you know what I do at other fighting games I do win sometimes I'm the ultimate butch butcher master you should see me the last time I was playing Mortal Kombat I was playing Mortal Kombat 10 against one of my friends ex-husbands and I was going and he like plays it all the time and I'm just sitting like going like this with my fist on the buttons my fist on the buttons and I hit shoulder buttons and he got so mad I'm like I'm literally that's the other definition of button that's the other thing about fighting games too it's like you can literally button mesh and win most of the time you won't most of the time you won't because the reason it works is because it's unpredictable you don't know you don't know what's about to happen the guy doing the controller doesn't know what's going to happen the one you're facing alright let's see here next up we have one other topic I want to talk about quick and we'll kind of end the podcast up on that so Reggie Fusame has been in a ton of interviews lately for some reason I don't know why but he is and one of the interviews he was talked about you know gaps in third party games Red Dead Redemption 2 why isn't that on Switch other things like that here's what he had to say he said the way the industry works games are in development for multiple years people forget that Switch is only experiencing its second holiday so many many games that are just launching were well in development before any conversations were had with these developers regarding Nintendo Switch now that we've been in the marketplace coming up on two years now that we've shown the pace with which we're growing an install base and doing it globally that's the other piece that is meaningful for developers our strength in the Americas our strength in Asia our strength in Europe is officially important or it's critically important that's what creates the opportunity for developers to make sure their content is available on Switch at the earliest opportunity I think what he's trying to say because this was in response to some question about Red Dead is we're going to get a lot of games next year yeah he's basically explaining like we don't get games now because Switch wasn't really a thing back when these games started development and on top of that when you've been in the marketplace long enough and you show them what kind of system we are that pace Nintendo games you figure out where their games fit in that and I kind of I get it right it's saying that you know let's say three years is the is the average lifespan of development for a game we're in holiday too Switch means next year holiday these people the ones the games that are coming out next year holiday will have had basically just they would have started when the Switch came out or at least when they had dev kits right I think I think it said obviously Nintendo is going to spin it but I think it's optimistic view of course it's a hey look we can't get these games now but you know realistically we should be getting them you know next time around because well but on the market long enough they know and they will be thinking of us the whole time and I understand that mentality I also think that Reggie fees may will never say something like we don't think our platform can run these games right oh no definitely not it could rather to run on Switch I mean you would obviously towards no but but anything anything could be come on did you see Ark Survival Evolved anything can be cut back enough to run on I was going to say whether or not you want it running on Switch like that Ark Survival Evolved should not be on Switch don't buy it please please don't buy that N64 not even it's an insult to even call it N64 looking on Switch it doesn't even run well on the Xbox One X but at least it stops still and it looks pretty oh boy you can't even do that on this game it is I mean there's probably SNES games that are looking in this the resolution someone counted it goes down to 360p yes 360p that's fine that happens in other games but the textures turn to the like a one point on the screen in a still image digital foundry pixel counted down to like 320p which is the lowest resolution we've ever on Switch and like the shadows will literally like like here like here's the soda there's a shadow coming this way shadow doesn't exist doesn't exist boom the whole shadows there exist now the tree here's a tree here's tree 2 doesn't exist doesn't exist doesn't exist hey there's the second tree just pops up right in front of you nice didn't even know it was there so so you mean kind of like the pokemon random which one they're not supposed to be really random encounters but obviously you're walking along and all of a sudden there's a pokemon some things just shouldn't be put on Switch right arc survival evolved doesn't run well in Xbox One X it wasn't going to run well on Switch and it definitely wasn't going to look good I mean like you know what I would have wished they would have released arc survival evolved with how it with how it looks on Xbox and PlayStation 4 and just let the frame right tank to one at least at least you can and take a pretty screen screenshot so you can like fake that this game looks good on Switch it looks good you're not going to fake it you made it kind of playable but garbage you're not faking anything it looks fantastic it's just not playable it's the worst port to Switch yet period barn on yeah and I don't think Panic Button could even save this one because they would have reprogrammed the entire game I'm sure even a lot of PC struggle with it and it's like this is just not was not a well put together game code wise optimization wise especially I'm all for pushing things to the max like you got if you're going to push everything to the max you have to they're not doing that on Switch I'm sorry guys the Wii U Breath of the Wild game looks way prettier it has none of these issues so hop there's on real engine 4 games on Switch I don't I don't know what this game is doing I can't figure it out but the team behind it I'm not saying they should be able to make another game I'm saying they need a different quality team to like optimize it or something I don't know maybe they should hire Panic Button for all this all systems around here make the preliminary they should have hit the panic button they should have hit the panic button so again Reggie I think is saying some cool stuff here I don't expect him to say anything else it sound like we should expect more next year and the year after great I just hope that's true great because PlayStation 5 and Xbox 2 or whatever I read it on the corner yeah so I'm hoping now what else is if you pay attention to Xbox One or PlayStation 4 is they had a lot of ports in the first two years especially PlayStation 4 tons of PlayStation 3 ports so like getting all the Wii U ports like okay why weren't people chastising Sony for it they were doing the exact same thing in their first two years except Nintendo's had even more exclusives come out than Sony did more than that more than anyone they've had they've had I counted it up they've had at least 16 exclusive Nintendo Switch games release from launch through today that's done including their own IP right no that is okay they've had 16 console exclusive games release in 18 months that's way more than Xbox and Sony ever did in the first two years and yeah the Wii U ports the Wii U ports there's not as many of them as there were these consoles exclusive so they balanced it pretty well unfortunately they didn't balance all like Xenobre Chronicles 2 I think should have been pushed to spring of this year I think Let's Go Beach Let's Go Eevee should have been pushed and came out well it should have been come out sooner and came out during the summer and I think that would have gave a kind of a major game in each major quadrant of the year but that's just me they didn't do it that way and that's whatever it's working out for hard to really I mean the complaining as a consumer still have a content I always want the content sooner than later so I guess I mean the fact that basically the last two major games that they've put out are the fastest selling in their history well not the fastest selling in the history of Pokemon but it was at the time the fastest selling switch game which got completely wrecked by Smash just destroyed but it's okay so Reggie basically expect more soon or next year and I'm just like well what else is gonna say and I'm always expecting more I'm not I I no longer I'm expecting more I'm just not getting my hopes up for more I expect zero AAA third party ports that are not already announced to switch next year so right now NBA 2K20 don't expect it and we've had 2K18 2K19 should expect it nah nah I'm looking at these sales charts I don't see NBA 2K19 getting sales boost I see all Nintendo games getting sales boost I'm just like I'm trying to I don't know I hate being this way because I was optimistic heading into this year and now I come into this year and I'm like yeah I think next year is gonna be killer for switch there are so many amazing exclusive games like 2017 all over again but that doesn't mean we're gonna get a ton of AAA third party support yeah Doom Eternal awesome next Wolfenstein sure great but we got Doom and Wolfenstein already and getting the next one is great but like what else oh another NBA maybe okay what you sure we're getting all the old Final Fantasy games what about the new one oh you get the pocket edition okay what about like the new new new one not the pocket edition like the real Final Fantasy 15 or hello the next Final Fantasy game yeah anyways I think we're gonna get a lot of Japanese support 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this live stream live for Edward Norton or anyone else Edward Norton seems to be the one that always watches it live but for anyone else that happens to tune in live for $10 and up or more you actually get to see the podcast way early because we record usually on Thursday nights don't release publicly until Monday think about that that's what 4-day, 3-day early access something like that that's crazy and you get to see it as it's going on and generally we get to say generally we say with this nice little green screen in the back but yeah this isn't oh yeah I actually want to talk about that before we head out I'm going to be talking about it on Prime answers as well so most of the public will hear about this before this podcast goes up which is fine different audiences and this is happening at the end whereas that will happen at the beginning what's the last what's the last Patreon tier oh $20 you have the opportunity to be on a podcast yep I'm one podcast per month alright so study and all that aside although this month I don't know if I'll put out the Patreon post for it I probably should like maybe I can grab someone for next week I'm just trying to think it's just so hard with the holidays for me right now I kind of didn't put up a post because I was trying to keep this the December kind of I don't know I'll figure out something at least something to make up to the people that that should have had the opportunity yes so let me let me start by saying what's happening why is our podcast with all my gaming stuff in the background I am well the real reason it's this week is because I'm gone the weekend that I normally edit this so I'm trying to make editing as easy as possible so I can have it done on Friday and ready to go and won't be uploaded yeah but at least when I get back on Sunday I can hit upload and be ready to go Monday morning that's the plan anyways whether or not that happens I don't know yet because it hasn't come yet but and not using the green screen like we usually do will make it a lot easier on me because basically I'm just editing getting out the different blips in the camera which hopefully will be fixed with the new capture card next week so that's basically all I'd have to do for editing besides editing a few little graphics here in there so it'll be really easy editing which is what I want it to be but another reason because I am in the midst of potentially overhauling the presentation of the podcast some of you guys probably really like this background it's all gameery of course that looks cool lots of Zelda stuff but you guys know I also use this background for some of my discussion videos and stuff and I definitely I use it for prime answers and I think I like this set it's awesome but I want another set like this and I think what I want to do is take our green screen room repaint about half of it get another table so I don't have to transfer tables back and forth that's kind of a big thing for me right now and then decorate that a little differently put up a couple monitors or TVs that we can display different logos Nintendo Prime podcast logo or whatever maybe I have a different show maybe a live stream show maybe I do a Q&A and I want to do it in there you know make that work maybe what I probably should do is make this wall the new set paint one of those walls back to white in there and make that where I do prime news but whatever it's something I got to figure out and I was just thinking that because if I do something with this wall I can make it a light I can do live streams in here where my main computer is which would be sweet anyways anyway the point is I'm trying to make it so we have a practical background yeah instead of using the green screen the green screen is great swapping backgrounds doing a lot of cool stuff I just I'm editing the podcast now I don't have the luxury of Martin who got really good with the green screening so for me I'm trying to make it more simple for me because I don't want to have to cut content on my channel for it I don't want and I want to keep the content of the podcast high and I think this background is a high quality yeah but I don't want it to be the same background in a whole bunch of different videos I want to have different sets so I already have the prime news set I've got this set I want to the green screen was another set but since I don't really want a green screen a lot I'll probably keep one wall on the green for the rare time I want to use a green screen I want to set up another set that's like this but different with the monitors with certain gaming stuff but maybe different maybe like there's a shelf of Nintendo controllers right and maybe a shelf of Xbox controller or something change it up a bit well how dare you with Xbox how dare you I have a second channel guys yeah I know I don't really upload to it very often so I don't know like it's just something like that or maybe it'll just be all straight amiibo maybe I'll have zero Zelda references in there since there's so much Zelda in this setup I can't imagine why I have no idea why there's so much Zelda and it's not just because I love it so much but yeah just something I want to have a little bit of a different kind of setup in there heck maybe it'll just be the monitors and some fake Ikea plants and I don't know I don't know it's something I got a brainstorm with Eric I also got to look at like what I'm willing to budget for it how much a table is going to cost or a new desk that I'm either going to put out here or I'll leave this one here and do it in there probably this one here because it's small maybe get a little bigger one for in there I don't know although the bigger one would be easier to move and move in here than in there but that door comes off but the door does come off and there's like that wall comes down and it's literally like an empty room there's like nothing that wall comes down and it doesn't no it doesn't I mean the door comes down if you want to take it out here but yeah there's just some stuff I'm looking into changing things up and you can sort of say experiment one so if we're back here again next week or the week after or the week after it's probably just because I'm still working on something what we're doing heck maybe one time we'll just do it with a straight green screen without green screening it and then we'll just have some stuff hung in the background maybe we'll hang up we'll figure it out it's a work in progress it's a brainstorming thing and also it's the holidays so that's why I think this background get used to it for now but in 2019 that's where I'm really looking to kind of flip the script a little bit hopefully before we hit episode 100 that'd be sweet to debut the new one for episode 100 that would be sick that's a nice goal so we got about 10 weeks roughly yeah about 10 weeks so that's pretty cool anyways thanks for tuning in and we'll catch you next week peace