 big shit big shit big shit big shit it's a unique hustle nigga big shit big shit big shit name another podcast like this check it check it check it it's a unique hustle it's your boy ECEO and I'm here with the lovely amazing outstanding official miss Jamaica what's going on hey man hey man this man right here man I actually met him in Las Vegas man we was at the convention and I walked up on him he had this big chain on SOD and I was like man what else does this do man check it man my boy puncho G is in the building man with SOD what's up what's up man what our world we have a money gang SOD money gang man that's crazy we definitely want to just get into all into your business you know what I'm saying but what you got for we like to go back before the music before the comedy I should say before everything as a child growing up where you're from your parents I would need to know everything man I'm from the south side of Chicago I'm from 75 King Drive gotty world you know state to the late you know Chicago boy you know Chicago dangerous it's really not really it's really not they be trying to get that to tell people that because it's a lot of black excellence in Chicago so other cities don't see black excellence but then we tell people that it's dangerous it makes people the tourism make people not want to come there they want you not to come to see the don't see the black excellent like you will go to certain places they never seen a black man on a skyscraper you'll go to Chicago black man on a skyscraper so you don't have a lot of violence it's violence but it's like everybody I was saying get killed in Chicago we already seen them like we already knew it was coming okay you know because it's so loud and you hear it like 32 people got shot or this guy shot you know I come to realize man the real real real violence is silence yeah you know you know I'm saying it ain't that loud man but the way people do they try to make it out like you said propaganda and all that it's something that's going on behind the scene that they trying to not get you to see now they don't want us to see they want to see black ownership black entrepreneurship either black ownership you know it's a lot of black entrepreneurs in Chicago really so you grew up seeing all of that because I know we've owned a shop for about 15 years and we've seen a lot of young kids grow up become man and woman and they've always said to us they love the fact that they saw a couple a black couple being able to work together to do something good and it made them feel like it's possible so you tell me that you saw that a lot around you yes going up yes I always seen like just hard-working black people like Chicago for us it was discovered by a black man you know all the other cities were discovered by like a white racist guy we was discovered by a black French man from Asia even from Haiti what's his name? DeSable okay yeah that's good so were you raised with your mom and dad? I was raised with my mom dad my grandparents my grandparents they ride across the street from each other yeah I have you know people in my life that's good yeah you know that's rare right yeah society right now yeah but they all go on though so God bless the dead yeah but you know I had that guidance to make me be stronger be here right now what's the main thing you've learned whether from your mom your dad your grandma that stuck with you through your journey? Like you know don't let your left hand know what you're right in doing you know and I ain't everybody business you know my daddy used to always say you have no friends so I kind of believe them on that you know you always got like one good friend and the rest of them it's like they you know colleagues but you know as a kid when your parents used to tell you things you hear them but you don't really go by till you have to go through it and you realize what they said it's true so did you ever have to go through that bump oh yeah yeah yeah you know your parents ain't gonna tell you nothing wrong but then you get older you realize man they want to learn you know you got to feel it yourself to learn so tell me something that you went through as a child or as a teenager that with a betrayal or just anything that you went through that you had to learn from that somebody else might be going through it and really you know can learn from your experience I wanted to I really wanted to key in on like like being from Chicago have you ever lost a friend you know the gang violence because the gang violence is real up there oh yeah I lost one of my close friends seeing your high school like a week before prom break that down to us like like what what was going on like you and you and your close friend from high school you know y'all had plans to hang out the rest of your life and so he was it something why he just was in the wrong place at the wrong time he's at the wrong place at the wrong time him and two other our friends they was at a park a week before prom and they was chilling at the park and then some dude came up to him said you know start banging on him and then shot out on and killed him he got buried in this prom suit man that's crazy so how was I mean how was he had to be about 17 yeah I guess and you guys been knowing each other y'all whole time in since freshman yeah since freshman in high school yeah man that's crazy man how was the city like like during during the times when you see gang violence some of the things whether it be whatever gang maybe you know how how is it like when you have to go to school that they don't force you into the game how did you stay out of the game or did you stay out of the game right I mean I was I'm I'm like a street dude so I was with people but I wasn't like selling dope and I know that I was selling watches and jewelry and stuff I did other things see these movies socks face that DVD that's how I was that's what I was my husband but they'll be my friends and then you know them your homies they gonna look out for you they did your neighborhood look out for you when you in a neighborhood everybody know everybody so they know who not the master of who the master of and then they know like they could die if they mess with certain people they like are they know like no he ain't on that you understand they your neighborhood gonna look out for you it was more close together it was more together like it was at times like you know everybody on your block the whole neighborhood your whole block you know everybody so well growing up like what did you inspire aspire to become what did you want to become my mother was a police officer so I had one to be a police officer too did you try out no I didn't but I remember being in seventh grade though I wanted to be a comedian too oh really yeah were you hilarious no I really want no like no class clown and then like that I was silly sometimes but that really won my MO like and why comedian I don't know like you know comedians we all go through some type of dark some you know like I lost my whole immediate family so right after my mother dad that's how I got it kind of got into a comedy and it how old you when your mom passed away I was 29 29 so did he said you lost your whole immediate family did they all pass away back to back to back you know through the years you know from 08 to now it's just a way for you to channel all of that into something yeah some positive right yeah okay that's good so how was it like going out and actually doing it for the first time comedy I had you know I had did like a year open mics and after in Chicago no actually in Vegas I started comedy in Vegas okay and I did a year open mics after the year open mics that's when I started doing shows so I used to be a blue martini regular that's in Vegas that's one of big clubs at the time that was that was dope that was my first big show I wasn't nervous until I got all after after this set hmm why I don't know it's like damn I just performed in front like 200 people so after the set that's when I start shaking and everything how was the crowd they love me they love me they like and then my first competition I had one so when I had one my first competition I felt like this for me but um so did you ever get in the first in the first year for open mic did you ever get booed I've never been booed before never never been booed wow I've been helpful but I've never been booed same thing Carlos will say he never been booed so that's a good that's a good turn how long have you been actually doing comedy four years my professional like four years what because I see you on your IG with a whole bunch of people but let's talk about soldier boy for a minute you know because you are the only according to what he said when he when he announced that you are the only comedian that signed to a rap label oh yes so explain to me how you met soldier boy and how did you even end up being the first comedian signed to SOD money game well I met soldier boy in Vegas and I did it a lot of people don't know I did his jewelry okay you did his jewelry yeah yeah I did a lot of his signatures new signature pieces the soldier boy chain with the gun and a little the little character man that's your jewelry maker I'm a jeweler maker okay so I had made that because of you know so the jury one looking too good at one time and then before then after he met me that's when he was on point wow so so and you met him he was doing a jury and so how do you get into a conversation about hey man I want to sign with you or he signed or he came into it you came in how did that happen you know doing his jury we got real close okay he was calling me he calling me at three in the morning and I'm like damn so do we call it and you got real close down I got close with one of his artists too so his artists who used to tell him about me too as well artists is that being no hood trophy okay he used to tell soldier like yeah puncho G man oh their soldier just you know gravitated towards me and then after the first piece I had made he was like man you know what I'm a son you know I was a comedian he was like I'm a son we gonna make history so he was like after I make that first gun piece that's when he had signed so and when you after you made the first gun piece did you basically he say I'm a sign your sign I want to sign you cuz he's saying my work and he was just like man you hilarious and he was like let's do some different so he signed while being that he's he goes back so far in the history you know like the dancing and the stuff that he you you know you've seen him as you was coming up young but I mean when you first linked up with him did you ever think that you and him would be friends at this you know you know well I I visualize they always wanted to be a soldier boy homie for some reason are you always watching soldier boy before soldier boy really was soldier boy yeah yeah you definitely you definitely you you can't you can't miss when you was soldier boy soldier boy is something one of the most phenomenal guys when he come down to reinvent himself he's one of those guys that you just you can't you can't miss him you know I listen to Snoop Dogg when he say that nigga don't miss I mean you know okay that's soldier boy you know he don't miss that nigga don't miss every time you try to count that nigga out he like a cat with nine lives you throw him off the roof he just keep caught falling to his feet he did that's that type of nigga like every session that's what people don't like that you know I was so proud of him when I seen him on breakfast club and other people were talking and laughing and all that but the way the nigga was speaking I you know far as I heard the hustle in him you can laugh but when a nigga worth millions like that you laughing but it ain't that funny you can you can play games with him but you can't never little boy and because at the end of the day his legacy can't be denied yeah and that's the thing we have revolutionized the game so now you gonna start seeing other people like I'm a rapper like what I'm a comedian you're saying like I'm well over you I'm a comedian soldier boy say I'm the first one the first that's right so he knows coming he knows coming so he like to just be on things yeah yeah and when he broke down that Draco thing the reason why her name with Draco with the Charlemagne I believe that nigga yeah yeah yeah yeah he said yeah yeah and and and that's what I like about it the niggas is that's his name so you can't take that away from him man and you know he didn't say it's something about he was a he was on that first you know on that song the Migos got the one they did from yeah he was his song first I'm like he actually invented real music but they ain't gonna give him the credit like that he was he was the first one to get on all of them artists from Chicago he was get on all he got he was the first like major rapper to mess with any of them drill artists damn I didn't know that and he'll let you know that we'll let you know but it's a fact this Google he on in the beginning all them cheeky all them so he was the first one to be on there to hop on and he was he supported it a famous day all them rich the kid everybody I think he said rich kid you sleep on his cow yeah all them famous everybody had to go through him damn that boy don't miss I told you that nigga don't I got to get that nigga on boss talk 101 that nigga got to be on here I already know what he knows coming though as I'm every time I met in the nigga was solid you know what I'm saying I just love the way the nigga just move and that's the thing he not like that like you everybody like then her soldier like really he really a chill person yeah yeah sometimes I think he just go on you know actually then he go crazy then it was soon as it go cut he back to be a rock yeah yeah the most impactful thing you've learned from him I mean just being this being a entrepreneur like being a leader you know saying like he a real leader and he's like he made me more boss than I ever been you know I'm saying so he I was already about but he made me a bigger boss because he's very cuz he loves the business aspect of it because right now he doesn't do music as much as he used to he just got the album out and then he wrote a song about me I'm so I see oh that that was big okay check that out I'm so I see cuz I had hooked him up I did his jury so he's he gave me the shout out he still do his jewelry today yeah I'm doing I still do jury today so I do Vegas custom jury that's what we did Vegas you make more money off for your jury than you do off of your comedy yeah that's what my answer okay but one day soon you'll make more money off of comedy yeah what's the biggest event you've done I did a few big events but I probably got to say the Kenan Thompson show I had did that twice that was a big show Kenan Thompson had the first one I did was right before the pandemic but it so it kind of messed up everything and then I just did one this year Kenan Thompson he won that this year but I still did this show and I was a big it was at the LA comedy club out there in Las Vegas at the stratosphere so that was hello I want to go back to soldier boy okay go ahead I want to go back to soldier boy because I've seen you on a picture with soldier boy and I know ti is into comedy now and I'm just trying to see cuz was this the comedy ti or was this to cut the ti that wrapped there be like the one that say you might see me in the street you don't know that old ti which ti was it was it the ti right up here the one that was on paper paper why that's the that's the reason ti and that picture right there he telling ti like ti I got a comedian he said you doing all this comedy he like man I got a comedian right now so that gay ti out of like bud like yeah I'm out the south somebody to ground hustle so they all see somebody ground hustle you already know I'm curious why do you think ti started doing comedy uh in that bag you know you already branded so it's like they gonna pay you anyway just cuz of your name music instead of doing comedy you know everybody want to put their foot in everything you know they won't get you know once you get your name and your brandix established you down there could be everything so you're gonna do whatever to get all bags yeah you're right cuz his ticket's not cheap at all yeah at all he come in like he Bernie Mac and he might be the worst person in the room but he's not but I you know I heard you know some days he had good days and some days they bad days okay but we all do yeah that just that's what come with the territory being a comedian what type of comedian are you I'm a trap comic okay yeah I'm talking about prostitutes how these niggas ain't shit females ain't shit we just like I said I definitely want to commend you for being the first comedy a comic comedian is signed to a rapper to a record label independent record label right and I think that's dope man for you to even be able to step up on that podium and be that guy you know what I'm saying so who who are some of the comedians that inspired you anybody from Chicago but you know Bernie Mac one of my favorites and Damon Williams just needs like but Robin Harris was one of my favorites too so yeah then I gotta say Richard cuz you know you know you for Illinois so you know me at West the Midwest comedians they pretty much even the St. Louis guys you know the Tory brothers you know said to entertain all them so wow so what you you got a movie that you're in let's talk about the movie a little bit how did you end up even being on this movie and I'm hearing twist and some more people what's the name of the movie primary position primary position yeah I looked that up and and you basically how did you end up even getting a role in that movie well one of my best friends have no Carlito he the one who produced and directed this movie but he got our end up getting a Hall of Star cast we got a biggie in there we got Chris Chris Lofton at like Bart a lot of Chicago legends in a twister that's the movie that Chris Lofton was in Chicago was it filming in Chicago yeah yeah that's where he filming it cuz we reached out to him and I said that he was in Chicago filming so that's the show he filming yeah he but I think he live that too so okay he from Chicago okay so yeah but we got a lot of people that's from the Empire all the people Chicago people people from the Shaq you know a lot of Chicago legends when I look down your Instagram I see people like Mike Tyson I see people like Flavor Flav I see people like TI I see people like twister like you you you constantly dealing when you got what's that other boy the comedian I seen a TK Kirkland yeah TK Kirkland just a bunch of a litany of people that you are constantly work working either around or with man how is it to be you know in those spaces and how do you stand on those type of stages man you know just be a different you know if I'm around a basketball player I ain't gonna go out to a basketball player start talking basketball I'm gonna say something else talk about some music or something but if I'm around a dude that do music I probably gonna talk about some basketball you know cuz they get tired of listening to the same thing over and over you know like you go up to a rapper or a singer they like man check out my mixtape that's one thing I had got signed because I wasn't a rapper I ain't have to go to soldier and be like check out my music and all that you know saying so how do you feel about the stand up and I know you've been in Vegas you've seen him he wanted the coldest to do it I'm gonna shot that nigga out he out of Kansas City Missouri and one of the baddest comedian you ever want to hit see hit the stage that boy Eddie Griffin how do you feel about that boy when you see have you ever seen him do stand up oh yeah your bad dude yeah I love Eddie Griffin man he's a good person to unreal like to yeah how was it meeting him oh Eddie showed us a lot of love man we was we was at something LA that was a big event he was like man come sit next to me yeah so it was like him and his brother which one of them give you pointers like have have really given you pointers like when they seen you they sit in on something that you were doing stand up on TK TK he said man this here and this dad and yeah TK TK is with me all the time he talked to me all the time tell me this is what you need to do this how you need to do him and Damon Williams from Chicago so TK is in Damon Williams spanky haze is another person that that's been there and took me under they wing and was like this my brother make sure you tell let's go back to the movie though just give me your role and just give me much as you can about what you do in the movie well twister and I we got a a bodega a little stove and it just a one little scene and we just I'm I've worked out the stove you know that's it this is where I got this story so yeah I got this though man with twister he asked me you know you know it's a little small it's about a small road but you see me though it's like you know make your presence now yeah and then he got me on one scene as well with my comedy on that I was just about it okay I was about to say is it a comedy watching TV but I'm on the TV with my company so yeah 1111 okay 1111 that's gonna be dope remind us of the name primary position primary position man where can they find it it's gone I'm not sure what streaming service is gonna be on but you gonna see it you're gonna you're gonna know cuz it's it's too many people on that not to know right and you know to do Jamal that played big he on all them with movies so it's one of them he's a great actor because that bigger role yeah he nailed it yeah man just dope dope dope to be affiliated with all these guys they don't tell him where you end up because all the opportunity the doors that can open because of the way that you've laid the foundation for your career you know that's the thing that I like about you is that your billing these relationships genuine relationships because you're out there grinding most people think they can get it and it's easy to come by and it's fly by night man but I gotta tell you something man what God have for you can't nobody hold it back and the steps of a good man is all about a Lord so when I see you walking in your steps I understand I see the greatness that God has pretty much prepared for you so you just got to you just got to keep on grinding that's all you got to do you know what I'm saying the way you doing is the way I did you look at the wall you see me I'm the same way man I'm always trying to be in the middle of something I'm always trying to figure out a way to stand on those stages that's why I asked you not the stage you stand on when you do comedy but when you come into the room with these people and when you deal with these elite people who have somewhat established their their their careers and entertainment how are you standing on that stage to have those conversations I've often asked myself that and that's why I asked you that today yeah that's what I do man it's been different you got to be different man you can't hit them with the same old okie dope yeah yeah they get it all the time these are 10 30 people just hit them with the same okie dope so you got to come different you got to come different you know the check it man is in the building that's what they're gonna get when they see ECO it ain't nothing and it been the same old two step for me you know what I'm saying when you when you are older cat and you trying to figure out ways to be something to where the younger generation can look at you because really I really I'm cool with standing on those stages but the most important thing is that the people that's watching us do our thing are able to see something in us the younger generation that they'll be able to look at and keep a steady way in life I don't need them to aspire to be like me I want to be better than me but I want to look be it want to be able to look at something that's presentable in a way to where they can say you know what if he did that I can do this on a greater level and that's what I want to do I want to inspire you know young black men you know to tell them like you ain't got to be on that street life it's other things it's bigger things to do is bigger fish to fry you know I'd say anybody like they come from wherever city you come from wherever hood you come from make sure you leave you I come from Chicago but I had got on in Vegas so you you know you get you know you become somebody once you leave your comfort zone no 100 I definitely agree with that what is it what did Dolph mean to you I seen you had him on your page I mean you what did it mean to you or did it touch you a certain way when you found out that he had passed away had been murdered what did that but how did that affect you I love though that was one of my favorite rappers I listen to him and keep like you know I actually got to say I've been to a dog concert so that was dope you know it's like being at a two-pot concert everybody ain't get a chance to see two parking elbows and all that so it's like man I was able to go to a dog concert but what's so ironic after all that probably two weeks later that's when I got signed wow so it was crazy and then you know soldier was going through it with them and it was crazy everybody scared for me I'll tell you like man you party down they party thank you know I ain't got nothing to do with this but you walk by faith not by sight and at the end of the day you just doing something to establish your career I just seen you had posted them in and seemed like it was love yeah I love dog if he was one of the greatest ever he wanted the greatest did rappers in the ever like you know a lot people just be saying two parking big just cuz it sound good but in real life to me dog was the greatest wow that's a big that's a big you know that cause you young I ain't gonna say doff not the greatest but I am gonna say for this generation for this generation to be an independent millionaire and stood on its own to indeed on his own you can't take nothing from him that's the day you can't take nothing from him I love I was I was just talking about him today actually with my wife I say you remember I say I like dog but I was a big keyglock fan didn't you remember me saying that I'm like a whole nigga in here tip what was it about five four or five years ago three years ago listening to keyglock I said baby put that keyglock on and I just rock out there to shake him she's like this nigga crazy I love keyglock that was one of my I'm like this nigga is rapping nigga put that nigga keyglock in let me just you know do my thing in here I'm a hustle today you know I'm saying that keyglock that hustling music for me I go get it when I put that key cuz I you know no you know I love nipsey hustle but I was more of a dog fan than a nipsey fan wow I didn't get to meet dog but I met nipsey so I and I went to nipsey store a lot of time so I had a different type of a relationship with him because of that because being a black business on a store on the like himself we both own stores he was on Slauson and Crenshaw mind over here off Elam peach tree so you know what and I'm black and my family worked in this store so it made sense when me and my wife go up there and shout out to my brother you know man and go over there and see see nipsey and that was after I met him too I just I met him but then years later I end up just going to a store now I went a guy shot and all that before all that I would always frequent that store man just just love the fact that you came through and rocked out with us man top three comedians of all time dead or live number one Bernie Mac number two Robin here number three my lord dope that morning Lawrence one boy that's the one for me right now your top three artists of all time dead or live any genre tell my you gotta say so I'll so the greatest rapper ever you gonna say it too he put you on you go you like say it number two number two camera on that pink you like when a nigga say that's the deal that's my home man camera real close to oh yeah how you and camera get to know each other I'm gonna get that third one that was one of my favorite rappers in the world like you know I believe in a lot of attraction so man when I was 14 years old I was always listening to them on turn 25 I got the norm and I did you meet him I met him at I'm I used to live in Harlem and I'm at one of his close friends Tina Tito and Tito was like man we gonna come to Chicago when I come to Chicago I'm gonna introduce you to killer so we was in Chicago he's at a club he did a show I was on stage with him and I was my first time meeting him when our first time we met him we kicked it all night to like I get home and like Tina the next morning so it was like we got real close down when I got to Vegas he got a crib in Vegas so it was like then one of his best friends lived in my apartment complex so it was like it was meant you know so it was like we was kicking on camera on all the time wow man I just it's dope the way you explain it and express it man you know the fact the camera on killer can't kill the nigga that were rapping back in the days him and him and mace was best friends and yeah mace was mace mace got fly flies hell run at big time man that nigga will fly fly and did he say he signed the summit I don't know who he's just signed to with the death row or something oh camera mace oh he just did something he be tripping mace was taking somebody he was taking a photogiotto money that's how I know I know that part he was like I'm did he 2.2 exactly what he's like that's how they do it that was it that was what he got for us there man so that's that's that's the way you know people can do that give 5,000 for a deal and people accept it you broke I got $40 in my pocket and somebody say man I need I'll give you five thousand you look a lot hey you get this 5,000 is that the camera was playing with some paper camera on McDonald's you still on the McDonald's a lot of stuff car wash yeah burnt can't I'll talk to you that nigga real go get a man camera so what's your number three I say Gucci hey never boy right now Gucci man get him in now get him in now yeah man so man how can people get a hold of you if they trying to reach out man you could just look me I'm only I'm only Pancho G in the world so just Google me I'm pop straight up follow my catch up damn man and I think we got everything and thank you so much for coming on boss talk one on one thank y'all for inviting me man man y'all man say love you more brother do that brother over here man we met in Vegas it was destined to happen you here now yeah and so it's going down man holla at your boy it's a unique hustle man and we out